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kieron
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Posted - 2006.03.06 17:51:00 -
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If you haven't read Ruthless or Theodicy, you certainly do not know what you are missing. If you have read these two novellas, you have an idea of what to expect in his forthcoming EVE novel.
However, not too much is known about the man writing and helping expand the stories that make EVE a living and breathing universe. Now's your chance. TonyG has written a Dev Blog introducing himself and also shares some thoughts about Life, the Universe and Everything.
kieron
Community Manager,
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2006.03.06 17:52:00 -
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Edited by: Amthrianius on 06/03/2006 17:52:27
1st!!!
:D
TonyG ftw :)
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Max Tesla
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Posted - 2006.03.06 17:56:00 -
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Edited by: Max Tesla on 06/03/2006 17:57:00
900 is way to low from the begning untill now if you count bakteria then we are atleast talking trillions ;)
And Ruthless is the best eve story written so far ;)
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Aminatar
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Posted - 2006.03.06 17:57:00 -
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this makes me happy
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Varis
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Posted - 2006.03.06 17:59:00 -
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TG - thanks for your contriution to the Eve-universe :)
Awesome stories, and keep em coming!
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Soren
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Posted - 2006.03.06 18:21:00 -
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Loved Ruthless, haven't gotten to read Theodicy yet =\
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.03.06 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: HippoKing on 06/03/2006 18:30:17
6th!
and i am back, after an involutary break from the forums 
i haven't read either, but i might well do so 
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Double TaP
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Posted - 2006.03.06 18:33:00 -
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It's a good thing ccp gives this guy his steady flow of beer
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.03.06 18:40:00 -
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TonyG for EVE online - The movie director/argumentist!
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 Originally by: Abdalion
Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Samor Madur
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Posted - 2006.03.06 19:24:00 -
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Keep them coming TonyG. Both short stories where amazing, since i was a child that i can't remember reading something that got my imagination so active. Great job!
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2006.03.06 19:26:00 -
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jeez im suposed to read all that.
reading that much of my non-home-country language gives me a headache.
they should translate it into dutch :p
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Tekka
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Posted - 2006.03.06 19:29:00 -
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TG you are a amazing writer, both stories were amazing and I hope that you will write plenty more. Good Blog BTW
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Dunpeal Hunter
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Posted - 2006.03.06 19:40:00 -
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i am really looking forward to your story! 
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Shinnen
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Posted - 2006.03.06 20:09:00 -
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Elissen
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Posted - 2006.03.06 20:32:00 -
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Tony, I want to thank you for writing Ruthless and Theodicy. I've read both with great enjoyment, every time ancious for the next chapters to be released. I have no doubt that the novel is going to be even better 
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Zurtur
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Posted - 2006.03.06 20:40:00 -
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Looking forward to! Very much
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.03.06 20:54:00 -
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Both ruthless and theodicy ROCKED! They actually inspired me to do a bit of writing, which i'll do when i have free time 
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside
How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful
I Luv Teh Parm!!1 - Imaran |
ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.03.06 20:57:00 -
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OMG"!!!!!!!!!!!!!
%(&^( me im gona buy that novel as soon as its released 
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside
How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful
I Luv Teh Parm!!1 - Imaran |
Coveney
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Posted - 2006.03.06 21:13:00 -
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Oh that is great news, i read everything (almost i think) from chronicles to your 2 short stories. I liked them alot and find them too short. We need more on the history of the 5 empires.
Thank you and will hope for the eve novel.
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My grandfather
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Posted - 2006.03.06 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN
OMG"!!!!!!!!!!!!!
%(&^( me im gona buy that novel as soon as its released
seconded!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111oneoneoneoneelevenonehundredandelevenpointoneoneoneone
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.03.06 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: My grandfather
Originally by: ParMizaN
OMG"!!!!!!!!!!!!!
%(&^( me im gona buy that novel as soon as its released
seconded!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111oneoneoneoneelevenonehundredandelevenpointoneoneoneone
^7
point 5
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside
How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful
I Luv Teh Parm!!1 - Imaran |
Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.03.06 22:13:00 -
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And yet by comparison, Eve is relatively restrained for a far-future Space Opera setting.
There is no large-scale use of nanotech visible to pilots, neutral rigs are possible only inside sealed pods, and so on. And its science is based - even loosely - on currently established theories (such as the casimir effect for warp drives).
I myself have tried to write a few stories for Eve, but in all honesty I was often stymied by the LACK of post-Human elements to the stories. Now that...a true post-Human element has been introduced to us for the first time (the...ahh, Dark Jove, not gonna TRY and spell it) it'll be interesting to see how things turn out.
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Esurnir
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Posted - 2006.03.06 22:15:00 -
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Tony We love you all 
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Rhaegar
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Posted - 2006.03.06 23:01:00 -
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*bows to Tony*
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Vendrin
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Posted - 2006.03.06 23:09:00 -
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So is TG a dev or was the dev blog just a convienent place to post it?
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.03.06 23:16:00 -
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No, thank *you*, Tony.
I look forward to the novel.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.03.06 23:18:00 -
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Just...
:o
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Gierling
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Posted - 2006.03.06 23:37:00 -
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Am I the only one who think that he comes off as a smug, self-fulfilled douche in that blog?
PRoposal to fix blobbing and make Charisma useful.
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JEBIV
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Posted - 2006.03.07 00:29:00 -
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Loved the novellas, absolute masterpieces and the thought of a pending novel is most excellent.
Question about the last novella. Is it over? Do we find out what's going to happen with all the characters and events leading to the end of chapter 7? I still think about them and wonder their fates.
JEBIV
formerly Kitkat, Jedi Knight pre-NGE
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.03.07 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
And yet by comparison, Eve is relatively restrained for a far-future Space Opera setting.
There is no large-scale use of nanotech visible to pilots, neutral rigs are possible only inside sealed pods, and so on. And its science is based - even loosely - on currently established theories (such as the casimir effect for warp drives).
I myself have tried to write a few stories for Eve, but in all honesty I was often stymied by the LACK of post-Human elements to the stories. Now that...a true post-Human element has been introduced to us for the first time (the...ahh, Dark Jove, not gonna TRY and spell it) it'll be interesting to see how things turn out.
heh tbh I quite like the golden age style of eve science fiction. Its all very Isaac Asimov and E. "Doc" Smith and grand old ideas of giant space empires and heroic space fleets clashing in 4 colour imagery and thats pretty much a good thing sometimes. Some of the recent scifi trends although very interesting admittedly do take away some of the grandeur of old style sciencefiction visions (and here I'm talking about nanotechnology and exotic energy forms and transcendent artificial intelligences as deux et machina etc etc). Sometimes its very refreshing to see the universe in terms of nuclear powered dreadnaughts and atom lasers clashing in golden-age warfare across the cosmos.
Of course given our corp background we can blame all that IC on the corrosive influence of imperialist memetics and enjoy being the countercultural opposition to the big ideas government and territorialist regression
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Liranis
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Posted - 2006.03.07 02:43:00 -
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Edited by: Liranis on 07/03/2006 02:45:31
Edited by: Liranis on 07/03/2006 02:45:08
It's weird to say but i really like your point of view and what you say...;)
BTW, you're doing a tremendous job, keep it that way! :) :)
The story behind Eve is really important to some of us, as important as the game mechanics cause it help entering the specifics of the game.
The universe is great and your novels help us to feel parts of something bigger! :)
Edit>> some misspelling corrections and stupid mistakes, writing when you're drunk is so stupid!
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Merritt
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Posted - 2006.03.07 06:53:00 -
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General worthless random retort to Dev Blog gushtastic:
Dig.
We slurp you too, CCP.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.03.07 06:58:00 -
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Loved Ruthless and Theodicy. Keep up the great work, and thank you.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.03.07 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: Xrak
Originally by: Gierling
Edited by: Gierling on 06/03/2006 23:51:00
Am I the only one who think that he comes off as a smug, self-fulfilled douche in that blog?
Edit:
Maybe I should add that its the particular bit about how many humans there are and how we are woefully responsible for all sorts of havoc on the environment. I'm sorry but this is an unsustainable predisposition to have both in the philosophical and empiricle sense.
In the philosophical sense, one can make the valid argument that everything great and meek lives and dies for a reason and mere passing be it of a species or of a man is to an extent justified within the greater framework of deontological existence.
In the empiricle sense I'll side with Heinlen in saying that every species does its best to continue surviving, regardless of the adverse impact on other species. That this is a nuetral factor on the implicit understanding that a a beaver dam built for a beavers purposes is no different from a Human's dam built to serve Human purposes.
It's only by both elevating the natural world to some sord of sacrosanct position while simultanously demoting man to be an unnatural existor that one could sustain any form of outrage towards our existence and our means of ensuring it.
Which I frankly get a bad taste off of when a developer in Eve espouses, ESPECIALLY after some of the earlier faux pa's made that are symmetric to such a view (A most notable one being the decision to make it clear that the Amarr are Catholics).
Are you american?
Why do you ask? Because he expressed an opinion different from everyone else? OMG, the horror! Every time I see this kind of **** I feel like the community as a whole takes a step down.
Congrats, Tony. I've loved your work from the first word. I will buy two copies of the book - one for me to read and one to show the grandkids.
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Kantar
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Posted - 2006.03.07 10:35:00 -
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This is so refreshing....I didnt read this story before,very good TG,I will looking foreward to the novel.
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JOSEPHx
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Posted - 2006.03.07 10:44:00 -
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Looking forward to the novel Tony.
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Shadow Lightbringer
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Posted - 2006.03.07 11:07:00 -
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That is great news TonyG and I cannot wait to read it. :D
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Telemicus Thrace
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Posted - 2006.03.07 11:32:00 -
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Wow, a novel. Now that, going by the novellas to date, will be awesome. I am so excited at the prospect I can't even form a sentence sufficient enough to fully do justice to how excited I am.
w00t!!1!!!1!eleven!!!
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Hafthor
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Posted - 2006.03.07 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Gierling
Edited by: Gierling on 06/03/2006 23:51:00
Am I the only one who think that he comes off as a smug, self-fulfilled douche in that blog?
Edit:
Maybe I should add that its the particular bit about how many humans there are and how we are woefully responsible for all sorts of havoc on the environment. I'm sorry but this is an unsustainable predisposition to have both in the philosophical and empiricle sense.
In the philosophical sense, one can make the valid argument that everything great and meek lives and dies for a reason and mere passing be it of a species or of a man is to an extent justified within the greater framework of deontological existence.
In the empiricle sense I'll side with Heinlen in saying that every species does its best to continue surviving, regardless of the adverse impact on other species. That this is a nuetral factor on the implicit understanding that a a beaver dam built for a beavers purposes is no different from a Human's dam built to serve Human purposes.
It's only by both elevating the natural world to some sord of sacrosanct position while simultanously demoting man to be an unnatural existor that one could sustain any form of outrage towards our existence and our means of ensuring it.
Which I frankly get a bad taste off of when a developer in Eve espouses, ESPECIALLY after some of the earlier faux pa's made that are symmetric to such a view (A most notable one being the decision to make it clear that the Amarr are Catholics).
I don't really agree with you but I can see your point. I think however that you are misunderstaniding the point in the dev blog. I didn't get the feeling he was lecturing anyone on the BADBAD things our species does, just putting the world of eve into perspective. I felt he was making a comparison on the basis of species going extinct on our one planet with our 6.5 billion versus a 5000 solarsystems and trillions of people universe. The ultimate point was explaining the mysterious "Order" in Theodicy, something I felt was needed.
The novellas are very good btw, those that have not read them should do so asap.
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Moridin
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Posted - 2006.03.07 15:25:00 -
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im going to buy that book when it comes out |
TornSoul
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Posted - 2006.03.07 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
Wow, a novel. Now that, going by the novellas to date, will be awesome. I am so excited at the prospect I can't even form a sentence sufficient enough to fully do justice to how excited I am.
w00t!!1!!!1!eleven!!!
Nor can I, So I'll just quote you instead
Oh and - Where (and when...) can we pre-order 
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Xrak
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Posted - 2006.03.07 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Xrak
Originally by: Gierling
Edited by: Gierling on 06/03/2006 23:51:00snip
Are you american?
Why do you ask? Because he expressed an opinion different from everyone else? OMG, the horror! Every time I see this kind of **** I feel like the community as a whole takes a step down.
Congrats, Tony. I've loved your work from the first word. I will buy two copies of the book - one for me to read and one to show the grandkids.
Im all for having different opinions, I just dont like the way he expressed it.
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Aridia Parker
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Posted - 2006.03.07 19:39:00 -
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Honestly so far I haven't read a story but I would like to now. And as usual I want to read them all, BUT not online on the website.
Is it possible that you put them ALL in pdf format including the chronicles? Actually the coolest thing would be one big pdf with all of them in it.
Is that possible by any chance?
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R3dSh1ft
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Posted - 2006.03.07 20:58:00 -
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Edited by: R3dSh1ft on 07/03/2006 21:06:00
I love TonyG's work
and CCP for sponsoring this novel
seriously, i'm getting all emotional here
edit: p.s. i want to be able to buy a proper quality hardback version !!! so find out the costs
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Malthooz
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Posted - 2006.03.07 21:15:00 -
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Tony, you have my thanks for writing the great peices that you have.
To say I'm looking forward to the novel is an understatement. Actually can I volunteer as a proof reader
Oh and please force them to print in hardback anything less would be an insult.
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Kylania
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Posted - 2006.03.07 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
And yet by comparison, Eve is relatively restrained for a far-future Space Opera setting.
There is no large-scale use of nanotech visible to pilots, neutral rigs are possible only inside sealed pods, and so on. And its science is based - even loosely - on currently established theories (such as the casimir effect for warp drives).
Yeah, compared to settings like the Revolution Space/Redemption Ark series by Alastair Reynolds or the Culture universe by Iain M. Banks, EVE-Online is a backwater podunk town. :)
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Aeon Valerii
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Posted - 2006.03.07 23:23:00 -
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Waiting patiently. 
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Anjin Phoenix
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Posted - 2006.03.08 02:56:00 -
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cant wait for the novel!!! Is it going to be printed, or will it be online only? Tony Gonzales = awesome writer. Thanks for the great work!!! Ignore the haters in the forums, they are huge minority.
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2006.03.08 10:44:00 -
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I just finished reading Theodicy, and...
Damn, that was a good read. CCP has definitely made the right choice of authors for the first EVE novel.
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Arderich
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Posted - 2006.03.08 12:40:00 -
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TG, thank you for showing us where we the pilots and our Empires stand in the grand scheme.
Originally by: TG
Choose your allegiances wisely, and above all else, make no assumptions: EVE is not a static universe. That much is certain.
Let there be no doubt in your mind that the best for EVE is yet to come.
I would like to see that statement static on the login screen.
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Preliator
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Posted - 2006.03.08 16:25:00 -
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Ruthless is fantastic. In fact i'm going to read it again now.
I really cannot wait for this novel TG. Good luck!
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shakaZ XIV
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Posted - 2006.03.09 02:55:00 -
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Enjoyed both stories a lot, keep 'em coming. :)
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Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2006.03.09 05:49:00 -
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Howsa, EVE novels!
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!
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Dri Kulsane
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Posted - 2006.03.09 07:16:00 -
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Thank you very much for your novel!
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Jade Lei
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Posted - 2006.03.09 15:19:00 -
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Loved the novellas. Will be first in line to buy the novel.
Congrats TG on the novel deal!
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slip66
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Posted - 2006.03.11 03:24:00 -
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I have been very impressed with his stories. Writie more :) Seriously you should write more.
Originally by: StOrM ViPeR
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.03.12 12:38:00 -
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Just read Theodicy and thought it was superb. Ruthless I read as soon as it was released and also thought it was superb.
Great writing style, truly gripping and a really valuable contribution to the backstory of Eve.
Theodicy almost made me want to start roleplaying and that says a lot
Eve Blacklight Style
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2006.03.13 09:36:00 -
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/me passes Blacklight a wand and a pair of tights
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.03.13 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Aridia Parker
Is it possible that you put them ALL in pdf format including the chronicles? Actually the coolest thing would be one big pdf with all of them in it.
Is that possible by any chance?
I'll look into having Theodicy and Ruthless turned into a pdf. A pdf of all the Chronicles has been assembled by a player, just a few minor details to work out before the Chronicles pdf is online and available.
Quote:
Will a hard copy version of the novel be available and when?
A hardcopy version of the novel will be available, at this time I do not know when, whether it will be a hard or paperback, or through what outlet.
kieron
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Aridia Parker
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Posted - 2006.03.14 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Originally by: Aridia Parker
Is it possible that you put them ALL in pdf format including the chronicles? Actually the coolest thing would be one big pdf with all of them in it.
Is that possible by any chance?
I'll look into having Theodicy and Ruthless turned into a pdf. A pdf of all the Chronicles has been assembled by a player, just a few minor details to work out before the Chronicles pdf is online and available.
Cheers!
And announce the player so we can praise him!
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Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2006.03.17 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Slaveabuser on 17/03/2006 16:10:59
This sounds very good.
Edit : Can I preorder the novella?
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M3ta7h3ad
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Posted - 2006.03.20 11:14:00 -
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Was good reading :) Not too much mamby pambyness I like a bit of action in my books :) Less "lovey dovey rubbish", more of this sort of thing: Quote:
...shrill alarms sounded throughout the megathron as the capacitor batteries struggled to maintain their charge. It appeared that the more he pumped energy into them the less they held, 'Curse this weapon of hell!' as his last systems deactivated due to a lack of power he resigned himself to a fate worse than death, and he attempted to activate his warp drive and flee the serpentis fleet that was attacking, he would have to deal with the dishonour he would face from fleeing from his foes when he got back, but he couldnt afford to risk losing his precious cargo any longer.
well that sort of thing anyway, probably crap but twas done on the fly to demonstrate it :)
But theodicy and ruthless were very very good reading :) put me down for your novella :)
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2006.03.23 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
I myself have tried to write a few stories for Eve, but in all honesty I was often stymied by the LACK of post-Human elements to the stories. Now that...a true post-Human element has been introduced to us for the first time (the...ahh, Dark Jove, not gonna TRY and spell it) it'll be interesting to see how things turn out.
You must be referring to prime fiction then. Otherwise you'd be a pretty ****-poor RPer to be using the words "Dark Jove" and complaining about a lack of post-human elements. HellGremlin's Endless Corp fiction was pretty much a basis for such things. The Dark Joves (exact words used in his stories) existed to manipulate from behind the scenes, and cause unspeakable terror without a trace. They're sort of like the little voice in our head that tells us to commit murder, and plot schemes to engulf the world in war. Its the first real mention that there might be another layer of truth behind the first impenetrable one of the Jovian Empire.
I don't know if Tony Gonzales has ever read the "Heaven" piece himself and obtained inspiration from that, but it would make him the second major fiction writer to use such elements. Only time will tell how far CCP embraces this as part of prime fiction, and whether its simply a trump card for explaining things which even Jovian meddling cannot explain. Personally I think we, the players, are going to have the last and final say on where this goes.
But there is also a part of me which wonders if this is all "to be expected" given such an unrefutable repeat of history.
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Jack Amarr
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Posted - 2006.04.02 10:41:00 -
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cheers tony, your stories are bloody magic, keep em up!
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Valeo Galaem
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Posted - 2006.04.26 06:10:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Originally by: Aridia Parker
Is it possible that you put them ALL in pdf format including the chronicles? Actually the coolest thing would be one big pdf with all of them in it.
Is that possible by any chance?
I'll look into having Theodicy and Ruthless turned into a pdf. A pdf of all the Chronicles has been assembled by a player, just a few minor details to work out before the Chronicles pdf is online and available.
Kieron, whats the status on this Chronicles PDF? I'm really itching to download it and print it out. I assume it also has the graphics.
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