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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
991
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Posted - 2013.12.15 04:35:00 -
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Treyah wrote:Cloaks have been a problem forever - they make the game boring as hell b/c it puts people into stations where they can't be killed. Where is the fun in an empty system void of hostiles? It's not there genius. Interceptors were basically irrelevant before the patch, now their not. Wtf is your point? Same could be said of the many many outposts in null. I have no idea whether you're cloaked, or sitting in your station afk, or at your keyboard sitting in station watching local. Which means I have to suffer the same thing you do whenever I make more than one or two jumps given the ridiculous number of outposts in null these days means there's usually an afk player in a station every few jumps.
At least if you disconnect while you're afk in station, it doesn't eject you into space and leave you sitting there to be scanned down. It does that to me when I'm cloaked and disconnect.
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Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
773
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Posted - 2013.12.15 04:58:00 -
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Sky' Darkstar wrote:I actually shut down an entire carrier farming system out in Outer Rim the other day just because I sat in an Anathema with combat probes out.
I use the combat probes trick too. Generally is not needed cause as soon as you show in local they leaving you free to farm their sites/anomalies. But if there's some though guy insisting in staying in his home system even when you show in local then can just launch combat prbes and everyone vapor.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6930
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Posted - 2013.12.15 05:06:00 -
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Daenika wrote:The problem is local, not cloaks. You want real PvP, where people don't dock up when a neut enters systems? Wormholes. No local changes everything. So do collapsible entrances, different rat AI and stronger rats, no stations, no supercaps, no cynos... Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
991
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Posted - 2013.12.15 06:04:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Daenika wrote:The problem is local, not cloaks. You want real PvP, where people don't dock up when a neut enters systems? Wormholes. No local changes everything. So do collapsible entrances, different rat AI and stronger rats, no stations, no supercaps, no cynos... Yeah if there were no cynos' I'd be engaging a lot more but as it is its not worth attacking anything that can't be killed faster than they can drop a cyno.
If one thing stops pvp in null / low sec in anything but cheap ships its cyno's not afk cloaking. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6931
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Posted - 2013.12.15 06:05:00 -
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You're joking, right? Without cynos we wouldn't have epic large fights and it would take us much longer to get anywhere. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5303
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Posted - 2013.12.15 06:30:00 -
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maybe eve doesn't need your blobber battles
and the node crashes so the supers get away anyway There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
198
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Posted - 2013.12.15 06:38:00 -
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I still want for my character a cloak with texk "AFK" on the back. Hood would be nice, but not necessary. As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting". -CCP Aporia |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
993
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Posted - 2013.12.15 11:04:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:You're joking, right? Without cynos we wouldn't have epic large fights and it would take us much longer to get anywhere. Hate to break it to you but there were epic large fleet battles way before cynos's. The only ships that NEED cyno's are capitals since they can't use gates.
As for the taking much longer, that's a good thing imo. |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1635
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Posted - 2013.12.15 11:18:00 -
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Treyah wrote:Are broken - perma-running a cloak without any chance of being found is pretty much what kills gameplay in null-sec eve. It keeps people docked and just bores the crap out of everyone. I'm so sick of roaming people's space to find people docked all day because some neutral alt is cloaked up in the system -- CCP, YOUR GAME IS BECOMING BORING BECAUSE OF THIS LAME CLOAK DESIGN!
So, what you are saying is that the null-sec pixel hard-men of Eve Online, who spend so much of their time berating hi-sec folk as care-bears, too scared to move to null where the 'real' game is played, are themselves terrified of a cloaked ship which cannot harm them in any way.
It seems to me that the only place many null-sec pixel hard-men are actually tough, is on the forums. This is not a signature. |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
694
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Posted - 2013.12.15 12:47:00 -
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Karrl Tian wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Treyah wrote:Are broken - perma-running a cloak without any chance of being found is pretty much what kills gameplay in null-sec eve. It keeps people docked and just bores the crap out of everyone. I'm so sick of roaming people's space to find people docked all day because some neutral alt is cloaked up in the system -- CCP, YOUR GAME IS BECOMING BORING BECAUSE OF THIS LAME CLOAK DESIGN! Last week interceptors were ruining the game, now it's back to cloaks. HTFU etc... Next week....cloaky interceptors using the mobile depot to farm FW plexes. 
Best post ever! Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
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TharOkha
0asis Group
664
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Posted - 2013.12.15 13:12:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Treyah wrote:Are broken - perma-running a cloak without any chance of being found is pretty much what kills gameplay in null-sec eve. It keeps people docked and just bores the crap out of everyone. I'm so sick of roaming people's space to find people docked all day because some neutral alt is cloaked up in the system -- CCP, YOUR GAME IS BECOMING BORING BECAUSE OF THIS LAME CLOAK DESIGN! Last week interceptors were ruining the game, now it's back to cloaks. HTFU etc...
And dont forget the depos. depos ruining game too alongside with falcons, local, smartbombs, mining turrets etc.. GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldnt the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
695
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Posted - 2013.12.15 14:13:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Treyah wrote:Are broken - perma-running a cloak without any chance of being found is pretty much what kills gameplay in null-sec eve. It keeps people docked and just bores the crap out of everyone. I'm so sick of roaming people's space to find people docked all day because some neutral alt is cloaked up in the system -- CCP, YOUR GAME IS BECOMING BORING BECAUSE OF THIS LAME CLOAK DESIGN! Last week interceptors were ruining the game, now it's back to cloaks. HTFU etc... And dont forget the depos. depos ruining game too  alongside with falcons, local, smartbombs, mining turrets etc..
Oh man, I totally forgot about those other things ruining the game too. Also Local is ruining the game or saving it depending on whatever side is shouting about it too. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1233
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Posted - 2013.12.15 16:10:00 -
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I think OP is the first player ever to say they dont like cloaks. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
505
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Posted - 2013.12.15 16:17:00 -
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Listen, just ignore and discount the opinions of people who come to these threads and say spectacularly stupid things like "cloaky camping can't harm you in any way", because they're either cloaky camper alts trying to justify their pointless existence or they've never actually had to live in systems where such cloaky campers sit all day.
A blop threat is a blop threat. That's all you need to know.
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1636
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Posted - 2013.12.15 16:20:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Listen, just ignore and discount the opinions of people who come to these threads and say spectacularly stupid things like "cloaky camping can't harm you in any way", because they're either cloaky camper alts trying to justify their pointless existence or they've never actually had to live in systems where such cloaky campers sit all day.
A blop threat is a blop threat. That's all you need to know.
If ganking miners is a legitimate way to stop competition, then cloaking is a legitimate way to stop my enemies from earning isk, be it mining, ratting or mission running etc. This is not a signature. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17743
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Posted - 2013.12.15 16:48:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Listen, just ignore and discount the opinions of people who come to these threads and say spectacularly stupid things like "cloaky camping can't harm you in any way", because GǪif you do, you might start figuring out counters, and neither the whiners nor the cloakers want that.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
692
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Posted - 2013.12.15 17:05:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Listen, just ignore and discount the opinions of people who come to these threads and say spectacularly stupid things like "cloaky camping can't harm you in any way", because they're either cloaky camper alts trying to justify their pointless existence or they've never actually had to live in systems where such cloaky campers sit all day.
A blop threat is a blop threat. That's all you need to know.
I'm being cloaky camped right now.....well I'm wating for him to log back in anyway.
Its fine just go around them. |

Careby
Careby Exploration
144
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Posted - 2013.12.15 17:38:00 -
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CCP seems to think more cloaks are needed, rather than fewer. Otherwise why would they give them out as holiday gifts? Merry Christmas!
Sarcasm is OP |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5304
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Posted - 2013.12.15 17:49:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Victoria Sin wrote:Listen, just ignore and discount the opinions of people who come to these threads and say spectacularly stupid things like "cloaky camping can't harm you in any way", because they're either cloaky camper alts trying to justify their pointless existence or they've never actually had to live in systems where such cloaky campers sit all day.
A blop threat is a blop threat. That's all you need to know. I'm being cloaky camped right now.....well I'm wating for him to log back in anyway. Its fine just go around them. They're waiting for people to ignore them so they can covert hotdrop them of course There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Matokin Lemant
3226
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Posted - 2013.12.15 18:04:00 -
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Treyah wrote:Are broken - perma-running a cloak without any chance of being found is pretty much what kills gameplay in null-sec eve. It keeps people docked and just bores the crap out of everyone. I'm so sick of roaming people's space to find people docked all day because some neutral alt is cloaked up in the system -- CCP, YOUR GAME IS BECOMING BORING BECAUSE OF THIS LAME CLOAK DESIGN!
All this is likely going to be addressed in a future patch/expansion. If anyone has been following eve-ru user Tandi once again posted a prediction of currently unreleased features thought to be planned for release during Rubicon 1.1. Although currently unconfirmed by any official CCP developer or employee, these rumours have been taken seriously due to the accuracy of previous predictions from the same source.
*The above is an exert from the themittani.com article on the same subject as written By Jayne Fillon.
You can read the full article here I would also like to point out the same person also talked about some changes coming to local chat found here
So if one takes everything together it does look like there are some changes coming to the "intel" system(s) in eve. Which would in part help to deal with the very thing your whining about.
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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
825
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Posted - 2013.12.15 20:33:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:they've never actually had to live in systems where such cloaky campers sit all day.
Then don't live in such a system.
CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil. CCP Fozzie: When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
700
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Posted - 2013.12.15 23:45:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Victoria Sin wrote:Listen, just ignore and discount the opinions of people who come to these threads and say spectacularly stupid things like "cloaky camping can't harm you in any way", because they're either cloaky camper alts trying to justify their pointless existence or they've never actually had to live in systems where such cloaky campers sit all day.
A blop threat is a blop threat. That's all you need to know.
If ganking miners is a legitimate way to stop competition, then cloaking is a legitimate way to stop my enemies from earning isk, be it mining, ratting or mission running etc.
Totally agree, area denial is a perfectly legitimate military strategy. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2524

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Posted - 2013.12.16 00:09:00 -
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Quote:16. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. Thread cloaked. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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