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Terace
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Posted - 2006.03.08 17:26:00 -
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does anyone think eve is going to end soon. I got my pc gamer magazine and they rated it under online games that would be gone.
I just want your opion becuse i am going to by it but it might end
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D'onryu Shoqui
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Posted - 2006.03.08 18:15:00 -
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why would it go anywhere? this game has more subscribers than it ever has and the devs are going to upgrade the graphics engine sometime this year so i doubt they have any plans to retire it anytime soon.
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pshepherd
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Posted - 2006.03.08 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Terace does anyone think eve is going to end soon. I got my pc gamer magazine and they rated it under online games that would be gone.
which PC gamer is that? the British one has an article about EVE almost every second month, and it scored 90%, second only to WoW (94%).
============== This is a sig O RLY? - Imaran I've only done 4 hours of Tools for 2D graphics, give me a few weeks and i'll be cool, really. |
Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.03.08 18:22:00 -
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Blizzard pays money for bad eve reviews -------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2006.03.08 18:40:00 -
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Gasp!
We've only got 100k subscribers, we're losing ground! Quick! Construct a galaxy-wide quest to open the EVE gate to gain access to a new COSMOS instance! Introduce elves into the game! Now now now!
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SadisticSavior
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Posted - 2006.03.08 18:41:00 -
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http://www.mmorpg.com
EVE has been leading all other MMOGs for a long time now. It is ahead of World of Warcraft, City of Heroes, Guild Wars and Everquest 2.
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Rollanze
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Posted - 2006.03.08 21:36:00 -
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You misread that article, those are games that some people dont realize are still around... Go back and look , you'll see what I mean.
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Caer Lakief
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Posted - 2006.03.11 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: Caer Lakief on 11/03/2006 18:28:18 You can see why however that many people don't think highly of Eve. For one it is a mostly European game that hardly any Americans know about or stumbled upon by chance like myself. Personally CCP needs to get an American advertising department open and get the latest patch in a box with game time in stores.
Edit - Of course I've got no idea if the server could handle the load of a couple thousand more people starting to play. |
Rollanze
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Posted - 2006.03.11 22:58:00 -
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PC Gamer USA published a story about EVE a couple months back, I know that alot of us Americans started playing after that story.. thats why I started playing in fact...
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Broska
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Posted - 2006.03.12 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Rollanze PC Gamer USA published a story about EVE a couple months back, I know that alot of us Americans started playing after that story.. thats why I started playing in fact...
Well there's the problem then :), The US PC Gamer sucks, the UK one => all. The UK one got me into EVE.
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Grape Juice
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Posted - 2006.03.12 03:25:00 -
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This is true, I heard of EvE by word of mouth only... I've NEVER seen it in stores in the US.
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.03.12 14:18:00 -
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Advertisement on Penny Arcade did it for me. 14 day free trial and fancy space ships flying around, I just had to check it out.
//No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\ |
Great Artista
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Posted - 2006.03.12 15:46:00 -
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I foud out about eve when I was bored and accidentally happened to look in the mmorpg.com site.
No advertises here, nobody knows about it and no magazines or TV-shows (Yeah we got TV show about games ). Each and every point I mentioned above is vice versa with WoW. Infact, I'd better mention about this game to that game show, maybe people realise then how much better this is compared to WoW. (CCP note this and gimme a HAC bpo!)
NEVER FEAR, THE REVELATIION IS HERE!
Im in Finland btw. -------------
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Caer Lakief
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Posted - 2006.03.12 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: G*****Juice This is true, I heard of EvE by word of mouth only... I've NEVER seen it in stores in the US.
The same for me actually, I believe I heard about Eve a couple years ago and have played off and on since then. It was sheer luck that my cousin had played beta.
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ZeroMaximus
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Posted - 2006.03.12 23:14:00 -
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I play Face Of Mankind also, and that game is based out of Europe. Some of the players told me about this game and that is what got me started. I live in California, USA and I have never seen this game in stores.
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IzzyChan
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Posted - 2006.03.12 23:37:00 -
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I don't think this game is going to dissapear any time soon.
I found this game after my friend sent me a trial...now I'm hooked. --------------------
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.13 02:36:00 -
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Originally by: Terace does anyone think eve is going to end soon. I got my pc gamer magazine and they rated it under online games that would be gone.
I just want your opion becuse i am going to by it but it might end
I would like to see this list you speak of.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |
Terace
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Posted - 2006.03.13 02:40:00 -
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The magazine was the US version i played the trial and i am hooked. Anyways most of us Americans like shooters.
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Hakera
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Posted - 2006.03.13 03:45:00 -
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a lot depends on the article writers bias. Like it or not, most mmorpg players can be pigeonholed and eve would not appeal to the majority as it is a niche game and consequently to the article investigator.
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Spectra
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Posted - 2006.03.13 04:44:00 -
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If CCP were to open up a carebear only server (using say... the old hardware that just got replaced ) then you would see thousands of US players come give the game a try, IMO.
Hardcore PvP games don't seem to do as well in the states as in other countries.
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Punished One
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Posted - 2006.03.13 05:34:00 -
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I bought this game in the box in June 2003, if you go to CompUSA in some of them you can still find the strategy guide which came with it..... ;)
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Ralle030583
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Posted - 2006.03.13 08:22:00 -
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Edited by: Ralle030583 on 13/03/2006 08:24:30 i think that a lot of german players will come to eve in the next weeks. The 4 biggest gamer magazines in germany have this months articles about EVE and put the client and a 14days trial code on the CD /DVD's witch comes with the magazine. (and i think because of this we have this month more new members in our german corp that in the past 3-4 months.)
btw. i dont think that eve will end in the nearest furture.
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Steely Dhan
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Posted - 2006.03.13 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Caer Lakief Edited by: Caer Lakief on 11/03/2006 18:28:18 You can see why however that many people don't think highly of Eve. For one it is a mostly European game that hardly any Americans know about or stumbled upon by chance like myself. Personally CCP needs to get an American advertising department open and get the latest patch in a box with game time in stores.
Edit - Of course I've got no idea if the server could handle the load of a couple thousand more people starting to play.
NO they dont I like the amount of players we have now, EVE is our little secret. I am amazed at the lack of advertising for eve tho. Like you I stumbled onto it.
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Ugleb
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Posted - 2006.03.13 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: G*****Juice This is true, I heard of EvE by word of mouth only... I've NEVER seen it in stores in the US.
The only copies you will find anywhere are from the launch version, they certainly don't include Exodous or I think even Castor expansions.
EVE is I think the only MMO which is sold exclusively through electronic distribution, that puts the money in the developers pocket and doesnt get siphoned off to publishers, distributors etc.
As far as advertising goes, in the last six months EVE hasn't needed any. We've only had the new server about a month now (six weeks maybe) and before that it was chronically overloaded. When your hardware cant take anymore why advertise? To see if you can make it melt? ;)
We're finally getting back to a healthy system, the bugs from RMR are being gradually fixed and the memory leaks plugged. There is reportedly new hardware still on the way though, so maybe advertising will be put off until thats sorted. Or maybe there just wont be any. We hit 25,000 players online last night, another milestone broken. When the player base keeps on expanding, do you need to spend a load of money on expensive advertising?
EVE is far from dead, it's only just getting into gear.
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Seiver D'amross
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Posted - 2006.03.13 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Terace does anyone think eve is going to end soon. I got my pc gamer magazine and they rated it under online games that would be gone.
if thats so stop reading PC gmaer then couse EVE keeps growing and wont stop. ______________________________________________________ I shal stand tall and shake the heavens with my power |
Vladimir Ilych
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Posted - 2006.03.13 15:58:00 -
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I hope this game stays around for a long time. I bought a boxed copy of EVE in a store for ś5 after picking it up and putting it down for 6 months in the shop.
When i loaded it i thought if only they had made more effort with the CD case i would have bought it months ago.
Most games the pictures on the box look better than the game but with EVE it was the other way round.
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Aniphaeus
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Posted - 2006.03.13 21:37:00 -
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I played in beta but couldn't get past the learning curve, but when I saw the advertisement on Penny Arcade, I thought I'd give it a shot again and now I'm hooked. I think the PA ads brought in a ton of people, because when I picked it up again there were usually maybe 10-13K or so people on at any given time, and now it's almost always around 20K except during off hours.
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Rift Scorn
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Posted - 2006.03.13 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: pshepherd
Originally by: Terace does anyone think eve is going to end soon. I got my pc gamer magazine and they rated it under online games that would be gone.
which PC gamer is that? the British one has an article about EVE almost every second month, and it scored 90%, second only to WoW (94%).
I'm a brit, and apprently one of the PC gamer's writing staff is quite into into EVE. Hmmmm ... now jsut to figure out who it is, then blow him up repeatedly until i get a free subscription
Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03! |
Terace
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Posted - 2006.03.13 23:49:00 -
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Same here i just got the Pc gamer magazine and stumboled on this little gem. This is better then EARTH AND BEYOND.
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Colette Reynard
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Posted - 2006.03.14 16:20:00 -
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LOL, I too found Eve from the banner ad at Penny Arcade.
And, please. Who gives a flying fart what some idiot at some magazine says? If those guys were really gamers, they'd spend their time playing games, not writing about them.
I used to read PC Gamer, until about the 15th time I read a review of a game I knew and played, only to find much of the info in the review was misleading or just flat wrong.
No, I think your average game magazine writer is some dork with a big ego and a tiny p3n0r.
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Jimmy Phelan
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Posted - 2006.03.14 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Colette Reynard LOL, I too found Eve from the banner ad at Penny Arcade.
I buy more games because of Penny Arcade...
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Hihat
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Posted - 2006.03.14 19:08:00 -
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tomorow we will have no wars anyomore on earth !
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Uuve Savisaalo
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Posted - 2006.03.14 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Broska
Originally by: Rollanze PC Gamer USA published a story about EVE a couple months back, I know that alot of us Americans started playing after that story.. thats why I started playing in fact...
Well there's the problem then :), The US PC Gamer sucks, the UK one => all. The UK one got me into EVE.
Who said we never did anything for eve? :P
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.15 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Uuve Savisaalo
Originally by: Broska
Originally by: Rollanze PC Gamer USA published a story about EVE a couple months back, I know that alot of us Americans started playing after that story.. thats why I started playing in fact...
Well there's the problem then :), The US PC Gamer sucks, the UK one => all. The UK one got me into EVE.
Who said we never did anything for eve? :P
AM?
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |
Lorette
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Posted - 2006.03.15 02:52:00 -
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I remember reading a website offering EVE trials aaaages ago, must have been soon after launch at least within the first 4-6 months. I was interested and tried to get a trail, but apparently they had all been taken (limited #). I finally found another source about a year and a half later and been loving it since.
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Brujo Loco
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Posted - 2006.03.15 14:45:00 -
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It's amazing how EVE is known mostly by sheer obscure ways, like word of mouth or seeing an ad in a website. Personally a friend that saw EVE being top rated on MMORPG.com told me to try it. I downloaded the client, got me a serial code for testing and guess what? I bought the whole year right away after my first month of play! Honestly, no matter how many people want EVE dead, the VERY own fact that you can play it "offline" is a big incentive for me. I can "level up" without grinding hours upon hours :) . So I foresee EVE alive for a very looong time. Will be here till the last server is turned off for good! |
Decidus
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Posted - 2006.03.15 17:59:00 -
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Updated gfx? That would be awesome!
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Andreask14
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Posted - 2006.03.16 00:42:00 -
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Damn am i glad that i dont read gaming prints anymore!
I found EvE because of its Website. ________________________________________________
Just a quick reminder that "Local" and "Instas" will always be what they are. |
Melichor Duraldi
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Posted - 2006.03.16 07:39:00 -
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I found out about this game through a friend in GODS and then through the buddy program completed the trial...been paying ever since :)
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Val Amon
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Posted - 2006.03.16 16:33:00 -
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Edited by: Val Amon on 16/03/2006 16:34:39 PC gamer huh let the DDos begin
edit: read the article starts putting servers back to normal operation
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Grape Juice
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Posted - 2006.03.17 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Brujo Loco It's amazing how EVE is known mostly by sheer obscure ways, like word of mouth or seeing an ad in a website. Personally a friend that saw EVE being top rated on MMORPG.com told me to try it. I downloaded the client, got me a serial code for testing and guess what? I bought the whole year right away after my first month of play!
I did the same thing, and got a second account 2 months into it. ;)
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Travis050
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Posted - 2006.03.17 11:34:00 -
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LOL I found out about the game on a Roller Coaster Tycoon box...
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2006.03.17 17:16:00 -
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Edited by: TuRtLe HeAd on 17/03/2006 17:19:10 no they didn't
They said, get it while its still good.
Therefore its Uber, but they appreciate its been around a while.
Luckily its still standing the test of time and Getting stronger and Stronger every day ! |
Bagehi
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Posted - 2006.03.18 00:07:00 -
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I bought this game at a Bestbuy in the U.S. Its been on the shelves, it just was a while ago.
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Agillious
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Posted - 2006.03.18 22:41:00 -
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A couple of years ago I read a fic about EVE on some gaming site, forgot which. I thought that it was a sweet story, but back then I didn't (out of principal) want to pay to play online.
Then, some friends bailed on SWG, and my work m8 wanted to try EVE. We both hit up accounts, and the rest is history. I can't stop playing... :D
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Ynnead
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Posted - 2006.03.19 11:44:00 -
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i got into eve during the beta.. i cought some glimpse of it on the currents of the web.. it was everything i could have hoped for in a game.. now.. if only there was a way to merge it with an fps... (such would be the final facet) to date, it is the general player control of the universe that makes eve such a phenomina. Back in the day it was the extent of the universe; that there were so many systems, so many possiblities for a character.. that it didnt require stickig to any strict hiarchy, you do what you want, train what you want, go where you want, you are only constrined by your choises... in this eve stands alone. |
Mohrg
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Posted - 2006.03.20 18:56:00 -
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Edited by: Mohrg on 20/03/2006 18:55:57 Two of my friends have been playing eve for over 2 years, i got them to play City of heroes (which i play far too much), and in return i now play eve (again far too much), i must say this game kicks ass.
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Jessamine
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Posted - 2006.03.20 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Bagehi I bought this game at a Bestbuy in the U.S. Its been on the shelves, it just was a while ago.
Never saw this game when I worked at Best Buy... and i just quit a couple weeks ago after almost a year...
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Octavius XI
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Posted - 2006.03.21 08:31:00 -
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I was bored one night and searched google for online games... and this popped up. Never heard of it, but saw the free 14 day trial.... that was 2 months ago, been playing since. Just my 2 cents.
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Valea Silpha
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Posted - 2006.03.21 21:21:00 -
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Personally i hope eve continues to expand pretty slowly, and specifically i hope that it never becomes really mainstream.
The last thing we need is a massive dump of players from other mmorpgs crashing the party and ruining it for us all.
In my experiance eve has a much more mature player base than other MMOs, and it shows. There has to be commitment and loyalty and trust for corps and alliances to flourish. Theres active democracy and positive dicatorships, and every governmental method in between. Thats not going to work with vast amounts of players only interested in how big their e-peen is.
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Kleptoe
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Posted - 2006.03.21 23:53:00 -
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I found out about EVE from Fortune magazine. They did an article about a few online games and this is the first one I searched. I have still been meaning to google those other games...But this one takes all my time....
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Dollen
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:30:00 -
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I knew about EVE sence release, but I couldnt play it at the time.
Nobody I know has heard of EVE, all have heard of WoW.
WoW is one of the few mmorpgs Ive seen advertised on TV in New Zealand.
A bit of prime time TV advertising in the USA might go a long way. Think 'EvE never fades'
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bsspewer
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Posted - 2006.03.22 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Jessamine
Originally by: Bagehi I bought this game at a Bestbuy in the U.S. Its been on the shelves, it just was a while ago.
Never saw this game when I worked at Best Buy... and i just quit a couple weeks ago after almost a year...
When he says a while ago, he means 2 1/2 years ago it was on the shelves. If I remember correctly, I saw it on shelves about march to may, or june, of 2003. I tried to pick it up around december and looked everywhere, but it was no longer sold on shelves.
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Roy Gordon
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Posted - 2006.03.23 19:05:00 -
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I think the game has fairly good long term appeal. This may get better when Elite 4 hits the shelves sometime this year if the rumours are true.
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blacknight9
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Posted - 2006.03.25 06:25:00 -
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I found about Eve from a gaming site. What did impress me at the time it was the images from the game.
I just couldn't believe my eyes. The images from the game were astonishing. And then i downloaded the new game trailer from video section ---> Eve Never Fades.(BTW -> if u want to convince a friend to play it just show him the trailer).
That hooked me into playing the game. Although i'm a new player i must admit that Eve is one of the greatest games i have ever played. The community is great, the devs job is sure as hell better than any other game.
This game represents the sum of all the sci-fi ideas that i met in books (i'm mostly a sci-fi reader).
This and the trailer makes for me an impossible dream come true (playing in the vastly known univers among the many stars).
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Davion Steiner
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Posted - 2006.03.25 12:30:00 -
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Edited by: Davion Steiner on 25/03/2006 12:32:22 Back in early 90's there is a game called David Braben's Elite 2: Frontier (tough the first one is a cool game in its own mind, Frontier is the "viva la revulution" game imo) . You took the role of a peniless pilot thrown into a universe that you are going to pray for every moment you breathe. Trading (at secure trade lanes like Earth-Bernards Star or tricky ones like Achenar-Facece), finding missing peoples (tough they dont appeal someone with gazillion credits but even the challenge of finding some randomly created guy in the whole universe is just amazin), carrying passengers and live stock (hmm where does that smell came from?), shooting at pirates for collection bounties and ship equipment, running missions for either navies or mafia\syndicate wiseguys, mining at asteroids or planets, bombing starbases and groundbases, taking photos for espionage, exploring the galaxy and of course loading your Panther Clipper with shield rechargers and ramming poor pirates or cops to death...
Well, good times they were. In a remote corner of my mind, i always wondered how it feels like to play Frointier with other people? Do they go out for trading? Run missions for faction advancement and rewards? Do they mine? Or just shoot each other to kingdom come?
Well, in 2003 my questions answered!(too bad that i choose to freeze my account in 2004, bad bad mistake) People run missions, mine, craft or hunt other people, same as Frontier...Is it?
Add the human factor to the game for un ending carnage and "fun". I have been ransomed (never paid and accepted death tough), ambushed, threatened and killed over and over again.
Talk about player interaction? I actually become a prisoner in a 2 way low sec system for hours, until one of my friends saved me by talking the CEO of the pirates!
Talk about brutal real life style social dynamics? People with power, money and numbers seem to dominate everything yet still can lose everything in a blink of an eye. One unlucky bump into wrong guys (like in the undying words of Comissar Yarrick, "give me thousand men enough to conquer hell, i'll conquer hell" kind of guys)), or even worse someone just wants to settle on your system and here we go. People warp in with guns blazing before you can say "omgwtfpwned".
And dont get me started from economics. People with superior technology and resources determine everything. One day you'll wake up a hell of 2000 isk per unit t2 ammo market, who knows what happens next day. Maybe some insane R&D corporation reduces the prices to 200 isk per unit just for fun (and i know that there is many guys can do this without breaking a sweat). There is actual use of an attribute called Charisma. Even at pen and paper games charisma suck, but you can rule a trading empire without even moving from your station with good skills at trading.
About combat matters. There is great diversity and options in both pvp and pve alike. You might say A ship can beat B ship in long range if the B ship is equipped for close combat. But come with another setup and B ship vaporise the A ship in seconds. And in fleet combat everything changes. 15 interceptors can rule skies against BS\BC type fleets until some destroyer and frigate buddies show up. And you have to find that Command Ship boosting others but good luck he might be anywhere on the system. The most innocet looking low sec gate may have 5 cloaked campers\scouts waiting for your arrival etc etc...
Well, if someone can speak about a game that much there is way too much potential in it belive me. Let me put it that way: Beginners Guide to World of Wacraft: Right Click to the monster, spam your attack. Rinse, repeat for 6 months. Now you have every item in the game, good luck wait for the expansion.
Actually i am suprised to hear about lack of US player intrest in this game.So; Guys in CCP: please stop petting reindeers and pull more yankees into the game! Problem solved
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Jezibel Darkdeath
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Posted - 2006.03.25 16:26:00 -
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I would have to agree with others... I heard about this by word of mouth and now have 3 accounts, have hooked my bro and sis-in-law, and have pulled a fair amount of friends from Guild Wars to try it out (and they all seem to like it as much as me so far!) hehe.... can't see it dying anytime in the forseeable future!
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ITTigerClawIK
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Posted - 2006.03.26 11:43:00 -
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i started playing couse EVE was mass advertised every 5 mins on SCI FI over in UK at one point the game was like th eone thing i wanted to see happen so i was instantly hooked i seriusly doubt it will go at all
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Marcus Druallis
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Posted - 2006.03.28 00:15:00 -
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In my honest opinion, this game is far from over. I really believe that it is JUST starting... Look at all of the awesome new features just released, and Kali ----------------- Help the cause Support in station movement! |
olan2005
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Posted - 2006.03.28 00:45:00 -
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never knew bout eve tilla freind told me started playing on it got hooked veryt good game just a lack of advertising ore map
x-f recruiting 0.0 or experienced empire players 1=pvp in groups 2=reguler corp mining ops 3. corp pvp ops
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Tom Tarn
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Posted - 2006.03.28 07:49:00 -
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Heard of this game from a friend at work. Never played an online game before. Now have 2 accounts and play every day. The possibilities in Eve are endless.
The only way I see to kill this game is to heavily advertise and attract many more people than the hardware can handle. When your player base is growing as it is now there is no need to advertise.
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Sextus Licinius
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Posted - 2006.03.28 09:00:00 -
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I play EVE for 3 years and i'm still ****ed off i was inactive for many months playing wow, without training my eve skills. EVE will die only if CCP let it die by not improving it which will never happen IMO.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man" |
AdmiralNaismith
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Posted - 2006.03.28 17:11:00 -
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We need a poll on how many of us 'yanks' were sucked in by the penny arcade ad. I saw, then hooked my bro, and I'm working on the rest of our lan crew.
Eve = Homeworld on ***** (aka, what homeworld should've been).
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6Bagheera9
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Posted - 2006.03.28 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: G*****Juice This is true, I heard of EvE by word of mouth only... I've NEVER seen it in stores in the US.
Never heard of it here it the states either. Someone was handing out free trials at a lan, so I gave it a try and decided it was worth the $15/month.
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Fishhook
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Posted - 2006.03.28 18:19:00 -
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It was the Penny-Arcade ad, the free trial, and a recommendation from a friend that did it for me. I don't usually play games with monthly fees. But this one roped me in.
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Athren Soulsteal
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:19:00 -
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Quote: The magazine was the US version i played the trial and i am hooked. Anyways most of us Americans like shooters.
This is true; I started playing EVE during the beta. I had been playing MW4 and Freelancer and was actually searching for a MOG similar to Freelancer. Even Though EVE did not give you the ability to fly and fight (based on skill not setup). It offered more, well the carrot was held out offering more because of the science, research, trade and manufacturing professions. But more on this later.
Quote: If CCP were to open up a carebear only server (using say... the old hardware that just got replaced ) then you would see thousands of US players come give the game a try, IMO.
Hardcore PvP games don't seem to do as well in the states as in other countries.
Actually Hardcore PVP games do very well in the states. Americans love to fight but we have a different mentality as well as description of PVP. To Americans PVP means exactly Player Vrs Player and even in Team based games Americans respect the PVP aspect. If you go on to any Mechwarrior, Starsiege, Tribes, Etcą American server, unless it was a flag carrier, one thing you would never see is a group of pilots ganking single targets.
I started playing EVE because it was supposed to be a Corp Warfare game which to most Americans is equivalent to a team death match. Another reason EVE does not play in the states is that Americans love fighting for the underdogs and understands the difference between winning and griefing. Most of the people in my corp and I have played for 3 years and while we have fought in actual corp wars or just broke up PCrats we have never podded anyone. To American removing a ship from a PCrat is a win, letting them limp off to lick their wounds is also a win. Pods offer no threat so there is no reason to destroy them.
EVE well never be big in the USA until it starts offering true risk vrs rewards. CCP still has not comprehended that point yet. Back in 03 CCP likened EVE to Americas old west, I pointed out that if that were the case then the 0.0 space should slowly disappear. First off all of the 4 races would slowly be gobbling up a system at a time in order to increase their empire. This especially true once CCP moved all of the rare ores out to 0.0 space. Take any nation and replace it with Amarr. If Germany, France or China were the ammar do you think for 1 min that the 0.0 space that holds all the rare minerals needed for their war engines would be allowed to remain uncontested?
Quote: I play EVE for 3 years and i'm still ****ed off i was inactive for many months playing wow, without training my eve skills. EVE will die only if CCP let it die by not improving it which will never happen IMO.
There is improving then these is modifying, nerfing and simply adding time sinks. I also took a break to play other games and after coming back I see little actual improvement in the game. Actually just the opposite it seems like CCP has added time sinks instead of content. Half the equipment I had mounted and was using when I left now require additional training to use. Lets say you are playing a game and get a legend sword which is great and you play for a month and itĘs the best sword in the game. Then you take a break to go play a FPS. A few months later you come back a low and behold you can no longer use the sword. Now you must pay for 2 month of game time to get your skills up to the lvl needed to use your old sword.
Is that a game improvement no that is an artificial time sink. But I have come to understand that this is also an American POV. As to the original post, EVE wonĘt die because it is NOT an American run game and because of that the rest of the world plays it.
The American ideology of actually being held responsible for your actions seems to be for inconceivable to CCP and the rest of the world so EVE should do ok, at least for the next few years.
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CH Tan
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Posted - 2006.03.30 02:45:00 -
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I started playing EVE after I read the latest review in PC Gamers. Like many of you, I got hooked and the only way to cure me is to literally uninstall the game. Which I am procrastinating at the moment...
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Bagehi
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Posted - 2006.03.30 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jessamine
Originally by: Bagehi I bought this game at a Bestbuy in the U.S. Its been on the shelves, it just was a while ago.
Never saw this game when I worked at Best Buy... and i just quit a couple weeks ago after almost a year...
I think it was on the shelves in 2003. I believe that was when I picked it up. I don't have my first character anymore, so I can't tell you exactly when it showed up at Bestbuy. It probably didn't stay on the shelves too long though (and unlike other game releases it wasn't given any prominent placement) - I only found it because I was looking for it.
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Ulv Einherj
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Posted - 2006.03.30 21:29:00 -
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Umm I did write a veery long post but it got ganked by Internet Explorer.
Umm Ethren Soulsteal start reading non-american newsarticles (try 5 or 6 countries with different political bias would be a good start)and definetily a good history lesson End of WW2 until present time would do. Then come back with that "US ideology crap"
CCP's doing fine.
The majority of the worlds high end resources oil, gold diamonds etc are to be found in the worlds most lawless and corrupted countries (link 0.0) a status quo that's
Risk in EVE can not be compared to Mechwarrior type games thats ridicoulous. For a relatively new player losing the insurance and semi-good fittings on my first BS was crippling and took a week of good 0.0 ratting to remediate. Thats good risk which makes things exciting. Had I lost my temporary BC while ratting which nearly happened twice I would have been reduced to Empire space mining. thats real risk just like RL, EVE risk approximates RL much more than other games which I think is what europeans are after. The feeling that you can be king of the hill one day and have all your assets stolen reducing you to nothing the next.
Regarding the Time Sink argument I have to agree I didn't realise that happened and I don't think it's acceptable. Further Tech level items can be added to add to further skill training for older players. Then again I can see that CCP might have taken such an action to further equalise old players with new ones.
In Short CCP are doing a fantastic job and the nationalistic crap (Us vrs the World) is best left for clan meetings.
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Ulv Einherj
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Posted - 2006.03.30 21:30:00 -
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Umm I did write a veery long post but it got ganked by Internet Explorer.
Umm Ethren Soulsteal start reading non-american newsarticles (try 5 or 6 countries with different political bias would be a good start)and definetily a good history lesson End of WW2 until present time would do. Then come back with that "US ideology crap"
CCP's doing fine.
The majority of the worlds high end resources oil, gold diamonds etc are to be found in the worlds most lawless and corrupted countries (link 0.0) a status quo that's
Risk in EVE can not be compared to Mechwarrior type games thats ridicoulous. For a relatively new player losing the insurance and semi-good fittings on my first BS was crippling and took a week of good 0.0 ratting to remediate. Thats good risk which makes things exciting. Had I lost my temporary BC while ratting which nearly happened twice I would have been reduced to Empire space mining. thats real risk just like RL, EVE risk approximates RL much more than other games which I think is what europeans are after. The feeling that you can be king of the hill one day and have all your assets stolen reducing you to nothing the next.
Regarding the Time Sink argument I have to agree I didn't realise that happened and I don't think it's acceptable. Further Tech level items can be added to add to further skill training for older players. Then again I can see that CCP might have taken such an action to further equalise old players with new ones.
In Short CCP are doing a fantastic job and the nationalistic crap (Us vrs the World) is best left out.
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niroshido
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Posted - 2006.03.31 00:10:00 -
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last year i played a text based game called, ogame.org, i was addicted to it and still kind of am, one day i bought the pc gamer mag (UK) addition and heard of the story about the corp theft done by the guiding hand social club, i read on and saw the APOC's they were so bloody sweet, through out the summer i said i wished that ogame.org was more 3D like others and had excellent graphics, if i didnt read pc gamers story about the game, its open endedness or the ratings it had got i wouldnt of wasted the 3 months it took for me to run around to find a payment method, but i held onto the thought because CCP deserved the right to at least be given a chance, and i further more believe they still deserve my payments because they made a game that is not boring like WOW is, it has a sort of 'theres always something new to do' attitude towards it, and the skill training insures (that it pi$$es me off) that i wont be leaving until i see kali or a carrier, most likely 3 new patches will come before that carrier, lol, point is CCP made a game that is sure to keep there players, with constant updates for free, and the skills taking ages, it just means that the really aged chars will still be here for years to come, before eve gets a new server that can hold a couple of a million ppl at one time ( thats a joke but i hope at some stage it happens) Signature file size and dimensions to big, please keep it under 24000 bytes and 400x120 - Petwraith |
saik
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Posted - 2006.03.31 00:54:00 -
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Don't think there is another mmo that comes near to the depth of EvE, the game seems so huge, from a newbie point of view.
25k players or so at peak, on ONE server... now that is impressive compared to things like DAoC and WoW which will never come close to that many in 1 world.
I've heard bits and pieces about Eve, from what I gather, its been around for awhile now, usualy MMO's die down, not gain players. :P
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Space Poo
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Posted - 2006.03.31 05:38:00 -
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I read about it on a post from Gaming Steve while i was looking for new news on Spore. I was playing WoW at the tiem and thought I'd try it out on a tuesday when the WoW servers were down. Well, apparently EVE was doing maintenence at the same time so I wasn't able to get it. Almost thought about not even bothering with it. But then the next day decided to go for it and try it out. I'm now about 25 days into EVE and my WoW account was cancelled about 10 days ago : )
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Lochmar Fiendhiem
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Posted - 2006.03.31 08:35:00 -
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I found this one after Tim advertised it on his website (shameless plug - www.ctrlaltdel-online.com). He must have gotten a few hundred players to sign up for the trial and a few dozen who stuck around (me being one). i love this game to pieces and haven't played much else since getting this during xmas 2005.
The thought of a graphics engine upgrade is very nice... hopefully they won't make it too gpu intensive. This game was years ahead of its time when it came out (in a lot of ways, it still is years ahead), but imagining playing this with cgi quality- oh i just climaxed.
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Vehestian
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Posted - 2006.04.16 08:44:00 -
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I had never played MMOGs before EVE and I bought the box at Walmart in 2003 when the servers topped at around 2500 players. Add one more zero to that 2500. EVE isn't going anywhere
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Countessa D'Marko
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Posted - 2006.04.19 14:25:00 -
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One of the hardest things about Eve is probably the best thing about it.
The Learning Curve.
Its not the sort of game you can pick up and be playing in 10 minutes. Your never going to see a console version of it. Its not the sort of game where you think "I'll just have a quick game while I'm waiting for x,y,z" ...
To me, this means that only a certain mentality of people are going to play. Even the most ebil of Rats has placed at least a little thought before he scatters you modules and cargo across space!
Theres also the fact that Eve evolves, partly due to the players, and partly due to a Dev team that still love the game they are producing. The short version is Eve isn't going away any time soon. |
Astrum Ludus
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Posted - 2006.04.19 14:48:00 -
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I have a lot of rl mates that play games and I've recommended Eve to all of them. The results are predictable, some of them 'get it' some of them are bored to tears and leave before finishing the tutorial.
I know it's fasionable to say so but the ones that can't get in to it are WoW players. Seriously.
Eve will never appeal to people that want their games wtfeasy which is why it'll probably have the player base of WoW, but I can't help thinking that's a good thing.
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Zaphoniggan
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Posted - 2006.04.19 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Valea Silpha Personally i hope eve continues to expand pretty slowly, and specifically i hope that it never becomes really mainstream.
The last thing we need is a massive dump of players from other mmorpgs crashing the party and ruining it for us all.
In my experiance eve has a much more mature player base than other MMOs, and it shows. There has to be commitment and loyalty and trust for corps and alliances to flourish. Theres active democracy and positive dicatorships, and every governmental method in between. Thats not going to work with vast amounts of players only interested in how big their e-peen is.
i wouldnt worry too much. people who think that way probably wouldnt have the patience to play eve to point where theyd be a problem, heh.
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fr8st
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Posted - 2006.04.19 23:58:00 -
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I believe that eve has been along for some time now. However, it has just begun. Its the most addictive game ever. And looking at stats on pages such as mmorpg.com telling that eve is still doing really great among all the other games.
And with CCP's plans for the future with DX10 and vista engine, aswell as the updates that are on its way for the current engine, I think we'll se eve around for many years to come.
The only thing I think could stop it. Is if CCP decides to leave it and start a new project (god forbid!).
Eve never dies, fellas!
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Rex
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Posted - 2006.04.20 09:46:00 -
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Reason it does poor in the US is simple.
A. No advertising really.
B. We Americans tend to play faster shooter based games based more on personal skill than luck and character abilities. I unfortunately can't stop laughing at how stupid characters look when they move around (such as strafing or moving while crouched) in a FPS. As a rule, you see more children playing RPG's nowadays in the states, as the teens and adults regularly havent the patience for them. EVE, no matter how powerful you think you are in it, is based entirely on your character as opposed to you, being an FPS, and it removes any real reason to smack, it was all your set up and skills, aint like you just demolished someone at street fighter. We Americans love our smack. (well.. most do.)
I.E. If I slam you with a Mossy in P.S. while you're in a friggin' sky guard, or rip you to shreds in a Catapult when you're off totin' some Mad Cat Mk.II in MechWarrior, the smack is worth it. If you're anti-battle ship interceptor defeats my anti-cruiser/battleship battle ship, you just happened to come across the right line up of modules.
On a side note, I have never seen a japanese player, which really downs the playability of the game for me. Heard rumors of how good they were at video games. Didn't believe those rumors.. but that view has been altered lately after actually watching how they play.
As for US vs UK, I'll be fitting my PS2 for internet use soon, if any of you Europeans want to try me at Armored Core I'd be happy to oblige. It is unfortunately the only on-line player-skill based game I have at the moment.
EVE is fun, don't get me wrong, but it's not what's currently 'in' with the US Market, although we do have a large MMOG base, and I think if advertised, many of them would move to EVE. I did take a glance at Planet Side and WoW briefly before joining EVE but chose this for it's potential fleet battles... but there is no actual glory in this game, and there is even less honor in it's players.
Then again if more of us 'yanks' joined you'd probably have a pirate population boost faster than a (insert any given interceptor here and 'with afterburners on' to sound even more like the dork I am for spending time enhancing a fictional character instead of having my own life. Yay me and my geekdom) , so much for that honor theory. -_-;
Thusly. EVE will never do well in the US. Not with out serious advertising and something to draw us away from our ever precious shooters. Aaaand that's my rambling for today. ------------------------------------------------------- |
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Siris Black
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Posted - 2006.04.20 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Spectra If CCP were to open up a carebear only server (using say... the old hardware that just got replaced ) then you would see thousands of US players come give the game a try, IMO.
Hardcore PvP games don't seem to do as well in the states as in other countries.
WTF are you talkin about! There are plenty of US players who are great PvP players. We are prone to liking guns and such if you have not noticed.I think we just like the in your face kinda fighting style like a shooter offers. I eat Carebears for breakfast!
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Siris Black
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Posted - 2006.04.20 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Reason it does poor in the US is simple.
A. No advertising really.
B. We Americans tend to play faster shooter based games based more on personal skill than luck and character abilities. I unfortunately can't stop laughing at how stupid characters look when they move around (such as strafing or moving while crouched) in a FPS. As a rule, you see more children playing RPG's nowadays in the states, as the teens and adults regularly havent the patience for them. EVE, no matter how powerful you think you are in it, is based entirely on your character as opposed to you, being an FPS, and it removes any real reason to smack, it was all your set up and skills, aint like you just demolished someone at street fighter. We Americans love our smack. (well.. most do.)
I.E. If I slam you with a Mossy in P.S. while you're in a friggin' sky guard, or rip you to shreds in a Catapult when you're off totin' some Mad Cat Mk.II in MechWarrior, the smack is worth it. If you're anti-battle ship interceptor defeats my anti-cruiser/battleship battle ship, you just happened to come across the right line up of modules.
On a side note, I have never seen a japanese player, which really downs the playability of the game for me. Heard rumors of how good they were at video games. Didn't believe those rumors.. but that view has been altered lately after actually watching how they play.
As for US vs UK, I'll be fitting my PS2 for internet use soon, if any of you Europeans want to try me at Armored Core I'd be happy to oblige. It is unfortunately the only on-line player-skill based game I have at the moment.
EVE is fun, don't get me wrong, but it's not what's currently 'in' with the US Market, although we do have a large MMOG base, and I think if advertised, many of them would move to EVE. I did take a glance at Planet Side and WoW briefly before joining EVE but chose this for it's potential fleet battles... but there is no actual glory in this game, and there is even less honor in it's players.
Then again if more of us 'yanks' joined you'd probably have a pirate population boost faster than a (insert any given interceptor here and 'with afterburners on' to sound even more like the dork I am for spending time enhancing a fictional character instead of having my own life. Yay me and my geekdom) , so much for that honor theory. -_-;
Thusly. EVE will never do well in the US. Not with out serious advertising and something to draw us away from our ever precious shooters. Aaaand that's my rambling for today.
Right On Point!
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Admiral Jax
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Posted - 2006.04.20 18:54:00 -
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I've seen the box in American stores, but it was tossed in the previously owned bin and that was only after I've been playing this game for 4 months or so. I started playing this by word of mouth on a Teamspeak server and on another forum site. I saw a couple screenshots and was completely blown away! I quickly downloaded the whole thing and my mouth hit the floor with drool once I got in game and discovered the graphics for myself. With CCP releasing add-ons to the environment and upgrades to the hardware on their servers, I highly doubt that they would put down that kind of investment on something they're going to toss out the window. Furthermore, I wouldn't ever want to see this game get dropped, especially after I put in several years worth of dues on my single character. Of course, that will be in the distant - distant future.
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Phaese
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Posted - 2006.04.21 01:21:00 -
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I started playing from that ad on Penny Arcade.
Also, what do you mean by a carebear server? The only way high sec could be safer is if you couldn't fit weapons.
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Herman Letchenstein
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Posted - 2006.04.21 05:30:00 -
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Edited by: Herman Letchenstein on 21/04/2006 05:31:59 Edited by: Herman Letchenstein on 21/04/2006 05:30:18 I was intimitated at first by the eve trial but a year later I now have joined the universe. I too found out about eve on mmorpg.com In other games I would be considered a carebear but eve rules are equal and harsh on everyone. I don't wine about the piretes trying to take my stuff. If they are nimble enough to get to me then, my bad. Compared to other games where ya just get ganked, you have other avenues in eve. And the player addititions are awesome. Eve radio...Tcsync casino...etc....
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Korizan
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Posted - 2006.04.21 12:10:00 -
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BAH U.S. player here not even a week old just found this game. Love it been looking for this type of game for a LONG TIME. THis game is Privateer and Wing Commander +++ all rolled into one. Just a little mad it took me so long to find it (mad at myself).
The learning curve is up there but I was playing EQ2 and got sick of the whiners and the dumbing down of the game. The day the devs start listening to the "OH the game is too hard" is the day I leave.
Not going anywhere any time soon :)
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Eugene Fisher
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Posted - 2006.04.22 05:07:00 -
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Originally by: G*****Juice This is true, I heard of EvE by word of mouth only... I've NEVER seen it in stores in the US.
What got me in eve was going to the Walmart here in Indiana (USA) and picking it off the shelf and looking at the cover. I was like GEEZ lets blow my money on some game! well here I am since 2003...
Besides, CCP is opening CHinesse servers soon, their going to be bloody rich!
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Bei Guenner
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Posted - 2006.04.22 16:10:00 -
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ok i am canadian, and ive known about this game for quite some time. ever since it came out 2+ years or more ago. only reason i diddnent get it then is that it was decribed to me as homeworld with only one ship. frankly i liked my fleet action, and wasent in any condision to have an online game, this was my pre MMO life, it sucked by the way before mmo. i picked up the 14 day trial around chrismas, and only becasue the guy who does Ctrl-Alt-Del comic was going to try it. i thought "hell hes freaking doing it, might as well, like its gonna take me away from my level 38 gnome warlock in world of warcraft.". hear i am 3 months later doing 0.0 ratting and mining, no more fighting for leveling, promises of revolucenary content addons that chang the balence of power instead of some cheap assed patches.
i half to admit, im wating for the year where all capsuleres consider concord and evil power trying to take over the empires, starting the greatist galaxy wide battle ever. id think it be fun, but that has about as much chance of happening as a corperation mass marketing titan production.
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Korcahn
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Posted - 2006.04.23 02:20:00 -
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ccp is going to be rich, and not because of lots of subscribers, but because they publish themselves, instead of some megacorporation. (vivendi, in blizzard's case)
They get 100% of the profit after they pay the staff, and the cost of bandwidth (probably pretty high :) ) Profit that goes back into the game, spent on new content, hardware upgrades, and the like.
___________________________________ Korcahn - Red Frog Investments. "The New Guy".
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.04.23 10:53:00 -
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well in the last what 5 months we have gone from 70000 subscribers to being nearly at 120000 now (this grwoth keeps up by years end we will have close on 220000 players) maybe more with increasing coverage re US and germany. *australian PC user and Aussie PC gamer are just wow focused ive sent several emails to em about eve and not a response (send one about wow and i ended up in one of the mags with a engative comment but the eve part was edited out as a ogod game) so i guess blizzard are paying their wages as every month a story on WOW (World of borecraft) appears.
But there are a surprising number of aussie players ingame id like to see CCP publish each country breakdown but there would be a substantial amount (25% of my corp are aussie)
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Talmssar
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Posted - 2006.04.25 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Great Artista I foud out about eve when I was bored and accidentally happened to look in the mmorpg.com site.
No advertises here, nobody knows about it and no magazines or TV-shows (Yeah we got TV show about games ). Each and every point I mentioned above is vice versa with WoW. Infact, I'd better mention about this game to that game show, maybe people realise then how much better this is compared to WoW. (CCP note this and gimme a HAC bpo!)
NEVER FEAR, THE REVELATIION IS HERE!
Im in Finland btw.
Better to stop playing. I'm only and original Finnish Fool!
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2006.04.26 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: G*****Juice This is true, I heard of EvE by word of mouth only... I've NEVER seen it in stores in the US.
I bought EVE in a store back in June 2003... I haven't seen it in stores since, but I had a friend tell me he saw it at the clearance rack at TargetÖ recently for $9.99.
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Kimaya
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Posted - 2006.04.27 19:59:00 -
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What's EVE Online?
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Roy Gordon
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Posted - 2006.04.28 14:02:00 -
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I play a number of online games and I can say hand on heart that my favorite is EvE. I just wish I had started playing it when I bought the game in 2004! I also would say that the game is not advertised enough, and finding it for sale is nigh on impossible, although I have seen it on sale in a couple of shops for the ludicrous price of 99p in the bargain bucket section(.65 Euro, 60 cents USA)!!!
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Zolars
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Posted - 2006.04.28 23:55:00 -
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I do have to agree with the lack of advertising, which at the moment I don't think is much of a problem because EVE has as nice steady growth going. As far as the Americans liking FPS games, I can't speak for all of us but I have to admit part of the reason I started playing EVE was because I'm waiting for Huxley(a FPS)to come out, but I'll probably keep playing it now because it's so good. I know I'm drawn to them a lot more because skill is more of a factor. I mean in counter strike a dude with a pistol who has good skill can off a dude with an AK, or other better guns, no problem if the other person's skill is lacking. In a game like EVE while there is skill involved most of the time he with the better ship or in game skills wins, which is just a matter of time. Though on the flip side I do like that fact that you have to work a bit harder to get things in EVE than the rest of the crappy MMOs I've seen out there.
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Steppa
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Posted - 2006.05.03 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Korizan BAH U.S. player here not even a week old just found this game. Love it been looking for this type of game for a LONG TIME. THis game is Privateer and Wing Commander +++ all rolled into one. Just a little mad it took me so long to find it (mad at myself).
The learning curve is up there but I was playing EQ2 and got sick of the whiners and the dumbing down of the game. The day the devs start listening to the "OH the game is too hard" is the day I leave.
Not going anywhere any time soon :)
WHAT learning curve??? Eve has a learning CLIFF :)
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Whytt
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Posted - 2006.05.03 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Steppa
WHAT learning curve??? Eve has a learning CLIFF :)
Lol- true that.
I am US based. I have made endgame characters in EQ, SWG and WoW. Before that did MUDs and MUSHes.
Stumbled on EVE while I was researching something else online. Had never heard of it.
US penetration will be huge if CCP promotes it in the US. Might lead to a breakdown of the concurrent user model. EVE has grown to 100,000 subs but WoW has 6,000,000.
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Steppa
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Posted - 2006.05.03 20:25:00 -
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Edited by: Steppa on 03/05/2006 20:26:53 Edited by: Steppa on 03/05/2006 20:26:29 Simply stating that US gamers prefer shooters is as bad a stereotype as saying all UK gamers have bad teeth.
...okay, maybe that's a bad example...lol
But there are legions of gamers, even younger gamers, here in the US that prefer a deeper gaming experience. Just look at the success of the Civ series that Sid Meier has put out over the past couple decades or the incredible success flight-sims (both combat and non) enjoyed here in the US. My point being that there are a lot of people out there like myself that feel a sense of accomplishment at "mastering" a game as complex as Eve because there's simply not a lot of people that can or will take the time to become as versed or as skilled in the mechanics.
I do, however, jump over to BF2 for my twitch fix now and then, especially after uneventful gate camps or mining (shudder).
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Jahah Smith
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Posted - 2006.05.04 06:07:00 -
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OK here comes my story: I started in Earth and Beyond, when the servers shut down I followed most of my guild into SWG. Well with the dumbing down of swg (yes IMHO it really IS that bad) I bought a PC Gamer mag (US version) and there was this incredable story about how a player orgization had COMPLETLY decimated another one. Then the next thing I read is the devs are not gonna do ANYTHING about it (yes the UQS/GHSC article) because they do not want to change the mechanics of the game because of some people not being happy. I was shocked and became VERY intrested, so I downloaded it and have been hooked every since.
(The dev response, after SOE's multiple changes to SWG, were a WELCOME change, I DO NOT want a dumped down MMOFPS I WANT complexity)
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Ishmael Hansen
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Posted - 2006.05.04 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: Ishmael Hansen on 04/05/2006 19:38:49 I found it after I played X2 and was doing some googling, I saw the 14 day trial and got hooked, as I'm a big Sci-fi and RPG fan. It is freaking addictive, I was a carebear mission whoring player for one year, and was addicted to the game, I started pvping and it went worst, it is not a game anymore, it's a parallel universe that sucks you in and never lets you go.
On a side note, I was watching my brother play some Counter Strike like FPS the other day and was: "WTF?? you just died and you shooting again?? And again?? what's the point in that?" :P
WTB social life back
edit: eve game cd: https://store.eve-online.com/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=49
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Simlife
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:00:00 -
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The reason you will never see Eve in the shops is because the software is download only after some rights or other were bought back. From the looks of the new graphic skins i'm quite sure that even with new servers comming online were going to see a bit of an increase in the number of players.
Although I never made the beta, have been playing from week one.
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Phoenixhawk
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Posted - 2006.05.06 01:41:00 -
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Belive it or not I just saw the Eve box, in the bargin bin at a local babagges for $4.95, I was like HOLYH3LL Batman, Eve has a BOX!??!?
Found a eve banner on some mmorpg site and it said it had a free trial, that was in Castor Version and I'm still playing and now so is the wife and one of the kids Stay Chilly & Watch Your Six!
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Rowlurorowf
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Posted - 2006.05.06 08:27:00 -
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I recently joined the game, and I too found out from a friend; mine on a forum board that is a retirement home for disgruntled SWG players and has become sort of a collective of individuals from different gaming clans. Very recently it has gotten more than a few of us to drink the proverbial kool-aid.
On the American thing - I very much disagree with the lengthy poster trying to promote the virtues of American ideology. It's crap. Frankly, as an American, I'm a little bit offended at such an imperious and arrogant viewpoint - it's one of the foremost reasons the rest or the world gets annoyed with us so often and so easily.
I think there are a couple reasons why there is a poor American turnout on the game as far as our playstyle goes. Most American MMO players fit into 2 categories. First are the younger powergamers. These guys burn through games at the rate of 1-2 every 2-3 months on average. Most don't play a single player game longer than a couple weeks, and MMO's last about 3 months before they're like, "ok, what do we do now?" They like it fast, they like it now, and they like to move to the next new thing quickly, always looking for the bigger, better deal. As a result, they buy more (or more are bought for them) and they are pretty much at whom the marketing is aimed.
Second are the older gamers. These are the guys who grew up with Atari and Coleco and the first incarnation of Nintendo. While they're used to burning through games because they like to try many and different things, they can also play the casual angle and spend the time to develop with the game. These are the guys best suited to EVE.
There is one big issue with EVE though. My friend and I were talking about this the other day. There is that same dropoff like other MMO's at about 3 months (powergamer or not). But with other games, players have to wait for the expansion, grind that out and then wait some more. With EVE, you have to get over that hump of figuring out what to do with yourself before the next big skill group set to play on a more level field with veterens - and then it never ends: no waiting for the next expansion because at that point you are playing one part of the extremely multi-faceted endgame, and there will always be other parts to explore if you so desire. That is really where the genius of this game lies.
But that 3-6 month period seems to be a lull where you really have to work to stay involved with the game - too weak to play in 0.0, but 0.3-0.5 is just too easy (from the PvE standpoint). Really that is where player interaction and Corps come in to help out that transition period from noob to vet. Without it though, I can see that time being really hard to get through, which is also what tends to weed out the 'kids' it seems. You really have to be able to look and think long-term (relatively - for gamers that is anything more than 3 or 4 months), which most younger players tend to just not want to do. Once past that (about) 6-8 month point though, the game is wide open and pretty much all content is readily available to you.
It becomes about the long haul and pretty much stops being simply a game and becomes more of a hobby.
(that last line I can't take credit for, it came from this article, but I think really holds true)
Quote: There are wooks in Caldari space.
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Seraphll
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Posted - 2006.05.06 16:54:00 -
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Edited by: Seraphll on 06/05/2006 16:54:58 Edited by: Seraphll on 06/05/2006 16:54:40 WTF r u gys talkin bout? I'm a US player, I like FPS (especially America's Army and Battlefield) but I predominantly like RTS and RPG (like Battle for Middle Earth and EVE). I can't believe you guys r still sayin 'we' when referring to US players. EVERYONE'S DIFFERENT.
But I suppose your right... all i can ever find here are people that vehemently advocate WoW like its the new rl. They should die and burn in the everlasting flames of HELLLLLL. (If you took offense to that, I'm sry, but it must be said) anyways, found eve off of MMORPG.com and found that site by sayin,"I wonder if there's and MMORPG.com" and got lucky.
Basically, EVE roxorz my soxorz even tho im us AND in the Military (im not a "hooah" kinda gy dont worry ;) ) EVE will never die And WoW can take our subscribers, but they'll never take... our freedom (to play a friggin awesome game)
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fuze
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Posted - 2006.05.08 07:47:00 -
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So basicly CCP just has to make another run of Eve CD boxes to sell worldwide? And give us more fresh meat?
Guys from CCP? Are you reading this?
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Sifus
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Posted - 2006.05.09 22:25:00 -
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To the comment about hard-core pvp games not being popular in the US, is well... disturbingly true (at least I've found).
You'd think it might be the opposite. As an American myself, (who is sad to see games like Shadowbane, and MCO leave the market) is dismayed more of us don't vie for this specific genre.
I think our young nation is more care-bearish than previously indicatedą I mean I just donĘt think most people know about what fun can really be ascertained from building a character from the recesses of your own mind and unleash it on someone elseą I mean IĘm a fan of fpsĘ too, I have to be their damn fun but theyĘre not the only thing. It might just be a major lack of advertising, and circumstantial gameplay flaws (of other games, mostly SB, MCO was just plain un-called for) that made some detract from this genre.
I meaną personally, WoW makes me puke, after SB shut down (well 6 days and counting) I was mortified that I might have to play that. Nową I discovered Eve things are looking up.
Wellą they will be when I strip away my title as ęNewbĘ and ęFreshmeatĘ HAHA.
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Smash Maku
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Posted - 2006.05.12 20:36:00 -
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Interesting ideas. Wonder how many more they could take before the game itself imploded or required multiple servers.
As per the original post I don't think EVE is going anywhere ;)
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2006.05.12 21:01:00 -
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I found out about it when Iw as playing EnB and that was ending. If it wasn't word of mouth I'd have never heard about it here in the states.
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Womble God
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Posted - 2006.05.13 02:28:00 -
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I had seen boxed copies of EVE in my local game store but it wasnt until my housemate got his copy of EON#1 delivered and I accidentally read it that I thought, hell yeah, I gotta get this. Downloaded my client from this website 6 months ago and I havent looked back since.
EVE isnt going anywhere but up, and im gonna stick with it to see just how far its gonna go.
Long live CCP and EVE Killing Smurfs without prejudice since 1978 |
Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2006.05.13 05:52:00 -
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EVE is still growing, still fresh, still attracting customers.
It's not going anywhere until it a) stops getting new blood and b) gets CCP into financial trouble.
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Cigs Mcduff
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Posted - 2006.05.13 10:58:00 -
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Edited by: Cigs Mcduff on 13/05/2006 10:57:54 Sadly like most games, they go through all the same life cycles. Also you must remember the food chain..
Once Eve gets too good SONY will buy it and Nerf it than slowly mercilessly kill it
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Ju'Ju
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Caer Lakief
Originally by: G*****Juice This is true, I heard of EvE by word of mouth only... I've NEVER seen it in stores in the US.
The same for me actually, I believe I heard about Eve a couple years ago and have played off and on since then. It was sheer luck that my cousin had played beta.
I stumbled upon EVE when they were looking for beta testers. I didn't have a credit card at the time so I had to forget about it. But eventually, I got a card and here I am.
As far as sales in the US, I remember seeing EVE retail boxes all over Best Buy in 2004. ___________
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Austin Bason
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:58:00 -
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Heres a good way to advertise the game, I just heard WOW is making a movie, i Love Sci Fi space movies so how about an eve movie :) Lets get some actor's names here ppl
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Officer Paynax
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Posted - 2006.05.15 22:07:00 -
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I learned of the game whewn it was being beta tested. It was fun but I could not get past the long travel times. I was more into the instant gratification of fragging someone than the slow buildup of a good character. However, after seeing the game on MMORPG.com and seeing articles praising the game I decided to give it another go. It just so happen that Star Wars Galaxies had gotten it's NGE and had completely ruined the game, and I was a man without a game.
Luckily, EVE had popped up at the exact moment it was needed. and I have been hooked ever since.
EVE is going nowhere. And FYI, many, many former SWG players came here like I did after Sony ruined SWG.
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Morikai Acler
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Posted - 2006.05.22 09:25:00 -
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Hmm, actually EVE was advertised a Loooong time ago in the US. I remember hearing about it when it was still in beta when I was playing Earth and Beyond. So that was a good 3-4 years ago easy. I bought my retail copy of EVE for $9.99 at a local GameStop shortly after March 2004.
Problem with the US is once games have been out long enough to drop down to less than $10, the stores don't keep them around. With the fact that you can DL the latest eve install file it makes selling the retail CD redundant. Even though due to that I paid less to get in to eve than most people did, considering if you DLed the game at the time, they charges an extra $20 for a new full account.
Due to this, most Americans don't realize the game is still around, and doing well. Granted there are quite a few US players in the game, me being one of them. Mainly due to a lack of advertising stateside. I do really wish they sold the game time cards here though. I haven't found a store nearby that current does.
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Armag3ddon
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Posted - 2006.05.22 11:43:00 -
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I heard about this game form a few people in the aliance im part of in Ogame I then looked up some trailers for it on GT.com and instantly fell in love with this game. I live for destruction |
Kalindra naskan
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:46:00 -
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In early 2004 I was testing E&B and after finishing the trial that I had, I hear that it was shutting down during the summer.
That was when I stumbled upon EVE. Since I liked E&B I thought I'd give EVE a go and tok the trial. I got right after getting in to a great corp that helped my alot. But I didn't have a CC so I begged to my parents that I could borrow theirs but I got a resounding NO.
So it wasn't untill february last year when I got a paypal account that I could start paying myself. And I've been playing since then. --- This sig is rated "N" for Nonexistent It's nonexistent btw - Cortes
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Seth Allasatre
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Posted - 2006.05.24 17:17:00 -
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If it wasn't for E3 press coverage, I wouldn't be playing. I've never been into MMOs but the screenshots intrigued me. I just paid for my account after going through the trial and expect to be here for a long time.
This is definitely a niche game, but that's not a bad thing. All that matters is CCP making the $$ to keep going.
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Ceril
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Posted - 2006.05.29 19:36:00 -
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Eve...
I like the sound of it. I was told by a friend about this cool spaceflying game and well, trial, played one month and then for some whacky reason I was talked into playing wow. So deciding to test wow and without the economy to support 2 subscriptions I dropped eve for the time being.
Played wow for the initial month and then played nothing for three months before more friends had gotten wow and talked me into reactivating it. Played for 2.5 months and then I was like: This is boring, I'd rather spend time playing that browser rpg thats been around since 2001, atleast when you die in that it hurts.
And then... one month ago... A cafe located in a town named Umes in Sweden... An rpg mate is talking about how a certain gm have started playing this spacegame called Eve and I'am like: EVE!!! YES EVE!!! I come home a few hours later, wip out my VisaCard and voila. I'am not going anywhere for a long time :)
What makes eve so great is the player interaction. However... it can be hard to grasp for some when they see ships flying, noone saying anything... space is vast, get used to it :) And also the following when I went on my talk everyone into trying eve phase(2 days after I reactivated or so): -So what type of classes are there? -Ehm.. there are no classes, you can do anything you want within the game just got to train the right skills. -But then what should I do? -Anything! You can be a miner, producer, researcher, pirate,trader, well the possibilities are great! -Umm... -You could also fly around doing missions, or quests, to gain money and standings with cooporations and such stuff. -Oh, I'll do that then...
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Alexi Borizkova
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Posted - 2006.05.29 20:03:00 -
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A while back one of my friends' computer was out, he came to my place with a CD and asking for a favor, he wanted to install a game and "set a skill" whatever that meant. Not really understanding, I of course said "ok" and watched the install process as we talked about it.
I didn't really understand most of what he meant, but I was nonetheless interested. After he installed and logged on, I sat and watched in amazement as he started training a skill, undocked in a frigate and showed me how he made some of his isk...
And proceeded to fly to the saatuban stargate in Isanamo, and blast the hell out of some guristas pirates and raid their cargo cans and a prize can nearby(anyone remember those?)
He was excited about getting a hull repairer, went back to station, recycled it into minerals, and sold them for about as much as his ship was worth.
After finding out that he had sold to another player, and seeing the market in action, I was hooked and was signed up for a free trial in less than fifteen minutes, and was on the wagon (or is that off?) in about thirteen days, just before it ran out.
Give or take a vacation every now and then, I am still here today, playing what is perhaps the best MMO out there, and easily the best Sci-Fi one.
If I had one wish for ccp, it would be for missiles to be uber beyond words, but if I had two, it would be for more US advertising, or at least to see GTCs and a box on shelves. You'd be surprised what a 20 dollar box would d to get them more subscribers, considering what it would be competing with, the fifty dollar boxes.
Eve is a massive value, and if they pushed that aspect, it would get them many customers, I believe.
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Sieges
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Posted - 2006.05.30 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Cigs Mcduff Edited by: Cigs Mcduff on 13/05/2006 10:57:54 Sadly like most games, they go through all the same life cycles. Also you must remember the food chain..
Once Eve gets too good SONY will buy it and Nerf it than slowly mercilessly kill it
I left Star Wars after Sony destroyed it. Found EVE and been happy ever since. I hope CCP keeps it in-house.
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Brooks Carlson
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Posted - 2006.05.30 20:56:00 -
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Edited by: Brooks Carlson on 30/05/2006 20:56:39 If they could survive with just 2500 players - (albeit with a 'lesser' server) - I don't think it'll die for at least a few years yet...
I first looked at this game about a year-and-a-half ago after two weeks playing, (the original, pre-Jump-To-Lightspeed), SWG - (and getting bored with it), but I was really hoping it was a simulator at the time - (being a big fan of the X series) - and passed over it when I realised it wasn't... After numerous games since - (WOW/AO/SWG(again)etc.) - I've come back to Eve, and realised that although it may not be a simulator - it's still an extremely good game for what it's designed to be... Certainly the best I've played so far - and I really like the amount of depth it has in the character development, rather than the usual 'same-thing-but-better' syndrome that plagues most other MMORPG's - (though Eve isn't quite an RPG, but it's close - (and it would require a complete redesign if it wanted to be).
It's still not exactly the game I'm looking for - but it's the closest anyone has gotten so far, which is good :) Brooks Carlson,
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Imiarr Timshae
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:20:00 -
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World of Warcraft is a very dull game. Simple as. Eve-Online every time. I have harassed and threatened 6 people into joining this game, and still going.
I recently had an emotional breakdown when a friend of mine said Eve was going to end, so, CCP, you have my life in your hands.
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Archon Theo
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Posted - 2006.05.31 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Spectra If CCP were to open up a carebear only server (using say... the old hardware that just got replaced ) then you would see thousands of US players come give the game a try, IMO.
Hardcore PvP games don't seem to do as well in the states as in other countries.
From my point of wiew the states are being controlled by fear, so it's only logical if they seek as much safety as they can in games like eve f.e. but I'm no expert on these things.
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Seth Enkar
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Posted - 2006.06.01 13:16:00 -
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Edited by: Seth Enkar on 01/06/2006 13:18:53 I heard about Eve years ago. at the time, i didn't have a job, money, or a good enough computer to run it. fast forward a few years, and now i have money, and a really good system, so i decided to give it a shot.
At first, it was really fun, and i had a lot of high hopes, and lofty aspirations...
lately though, i'm just not having a lot of fun. missions get really boring after a while, mining is ALWAYS boring, going into low-sec almost guarantees you're gonna lose your ship, and/or get podded. so you basically get stuck after a while. like take now for instance. my corp can't mine the good stuff, because it's all in low-sec, missions are boring, and don't pay enough, and it's so difficult to get people who actually wanna work and contribute to the good of the group. everyone's too selfish, and greedy...always looking out for number one.
at any rate, i originally got into the game desiring not PvP, but exploration. to command a fleet of explorers, and go where few had gone before...to see things, and make discoveries....hasn't happened yet, and i doubt it ever will.
What would be really cool is if they'd allow limited numbers of people from legitimate exploratory corps to enter jovian space, just to look around, take screens, visit landmarks...that kind of thing...i think that would be really fun.
Or if some day, they made an expansion where the eve gate stabilized, and contact with earth, and it's galaxy was re-established...the possabilities right there would be enough to spawn all new interest for people like me....think about it...would they be hostile, or friendly...or maybe even non-existant...could be that in the thousands of years, everything in the sol system just died out, and all that's left is relics....would be superfun for exploration...
point is, there's just not enough exploration in the game, not enough uncharted, deserted space...some people actually dig that kind of thing..
now then, my personal pros and cons to eve...
Pros:
- Good graphics - Not too steep learning curve - PvE combat is fun - Mostly excellent sound design
Cons:
- The music (it really doesn't suit the game well) - Some sounds are kinda crappy, and don't quite fit - Not enough ways to make money without huge risk or huge boredom - Not enough exploration opportunities - Gameplay gets stale after a while - Unfair game events - Too many bad people - Not enough immersive elements (Storyline, etc)
I know it sounds like i'm ripping on the game, but i'm really not...i LIKE eve..i'm just frustrated with it right now...i don't feel like i'm really getting anything out of my subscription..the only reason i haven't canceled it is because my corp mates (whom i introduced to this game) asked me to stick around. they don't think they'd be willing to keep playing if i wasn't around, so i stay..for them.
I do still believe things can get better, so for better or worse, i'll stick around, and see how things play out.
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Carsidava
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Posted - 2006.06.01 21:43:00 -
[126]
I hadn't heard of Eve until the folks at arsclan started playing it, but that was only about a year ago. They just wouldn't shut up about it, so I had to try it.
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Bryg Philomena
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Posted - 2006.06.03 20:39:00 -
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I learned of it through a friend of mine, who learned of it through a friend of his. Since, day one I was hooked. One of my favorite aspects is that it is the only game that I think is best played without the sound on. The one aspect I HATE, and hope CCP reads about and changes, is that autopilot doesn't dock at a station. I have lost many ships from when I was making jumps and decided to read on the forum instead.
Anyway this game is great, and thankfully isn't mainstream. A great value for the money and a perfect game. Even state-side, Eve is gaining popularity.
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Sadis Creeg
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Posted - 2006.06.25 02:14:00 -
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Have to agree with the Earlyer american commnet, I live in the states and enjoy PvP, but most american games witht the exception of Counter-strike type shooters bore me. I like the risk of being podded cause i got sloppy, or was not paying attention.
Heres hopeing eve has many years left
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Tavin
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Posted - 2006.06.25 16:35:00 -
[129]
I left swg after they totaly ruined that game.. i hope that eve pays heed to sonys bad practice and doesn't do what they did to that game.. i don't think they will tho. some of the people from swg spoke highly of eve on the forums there and thats when i started paying attention to it.
nothing bad against most of americans, i am one haha.. but i would imagine that most of the 'gamers' at least the ones that companys try to get their attention are a younger crowd looking for fast gratification, and fast past action the likes of alot of the 'box' games that are comeing out (for playstation ect..)
eve takes alot of patients, i agree that they could do some revamping with some of the missions and exploring, and once you've seen a couple of the solar systems you've pretty much seen them all.. i'm very much looking forward to the graphics revamp
i think eve is great.. keep up the good work CCP
-just my two cents while buring time at work and looking forward to going home so i can play eve-
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SpaceDrake Storyteller
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Posted - 2006.06.25 19:15:00 -
[130]
I highly suspect that the EVE CCG is going to boost EVE's popularity (or at least it's profile) a fair bit and may help bring in some more new blood. -------------- What good are actions if there's no one to tell the tale afterward?
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WizardBlade
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Posted - 2006.06.27 16:00:00 -
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Hy guys, i am playing eve for aproximity one year, a friend of mine brought me a trailer of eve, after i have seen it, in aproximity 24 hours i have the game instaled on my PC and a new account. Since that i have played eve for aproximity 4 - 5 houres per day :), i love this game. And I bring aproximitly 10 - 20 new blood per month in this game, i work a PC Store and have 40 TFT connect to one PC, on that PC is playing the trailers of the new games, and of course the official EVE trailer :P ...... I don't think that eve will shutdown :P ... eve it's a great game.
And of course excuse my english
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Sylper Illysten
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Posted - 2006.06.28 01:45:00 -
[132]
Well I hope it doesn't end soon (and I don't believe it's likely to) I found out about EVE through the ArsTechnica web site. Never seen any other advertisement in Australia, and I never expect to see it in stores here.
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Wen Jaibao
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Posted - 2006.06.29 14:34:00 -
[133]
I 'heard' of eve in a strange way. When I used to play SWG I would use Xfire to communicate with people outside of the game. Every so often I'd notice 'chaotech' going into EVE.. due to the horrid state of SWG at the time, I was getting out of the game. I checked out EVE on MMORPG.com, noticed there was a trial, and got hooked after I started it.
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