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Commander Wiggan	Posted - 2006.03.09 09:48:00 - [1] While on routine Macro miner patrol I was shocked and sickend to find the following Corp actively and totaly invovled in a massive macromine operation. The corp is called Ominous corp with the following members at the very least Macro mining - there were more present but they warped out upon been uncovered. - Yquqwoe - Yiuyieiua - Yaosidd - Yahghs - Iwujqwe Non Omnicopr that were also mining in to the same tin - adaqwe - what was even more disturping it appears they had hired another to act as a cover agent - annihilation mouse.. Myself and my fellow captains engaged and destroyed two of the mm fleet before they ran and docked. Reports have been filed with ccp about this ss of local chat was taken for recording all the names and people present. I call upon all good standing captians to bear presure upon Ominous corp to rid its self of this taint and evil.. And if they fail... rid them from space.
Commander Wiggan	Posted - 2006.03.09 09:49:00 - [2] The Ceo of the Corp has also been informed of our findings.
Ithildin	Posted - 2006.03.09 09:54:00 - [3] We don't really need to know everytime a macro miner is reported. Originally by: KilROCK Originally by: Arkanor Gallente missileboat might be cool. Pod yourself till you got no skills.[
pricechecker12	Posted - 2006.03.09 09:55:00 - [4] Originally by: Commander Wiggan The Ceo of the Corp has also been informed of our findings. dont bother telling him just dec them an pwn the macroers
Commander Wiggan	Posted - 2006.03.09 09:56:00 - [5] The corp has been war dec'd The Issue is that it clearly is a whole corp that is MM and attempts to pass its self off as as respectable.
mattzz	Posted - 2006.03.09 14:34:00 - [6] Fun, please evemail some details about where they do this. Or just post here...
Caledric	Posted - 2006.03.09 15:07:00 - [7] How did you know they were macro mining? Obviously they weren't afk as they managed to warp out and flee from you so how does one determine this?
Uael	Posted - 2006.03.09 15:14:00 - [8] Originally by: Caledric How did you know they were macro mining? Obviously they weren't afk as they managed to warp out and flee from you so how does one determine this? Yeah, I'd like to know this too. How are you defining MacroMining? Because what you described just sounds like a Corp mining event, which many corps do, including my own. What is wrong with a mining corp coming together and mining in a belt? I mean thats the whole point of a mining corp, isn't it? If you want to attack them, thats fine, its all part of the Eve fun. Just don't try and justify it by calling them macrominers and claiming you are doing a service to the community. /Salute
Arshes Nei	Posted - 2006.03.09 15:23:00 - [9] Well good thinking about alienating the names of the people involved, otherwise the mods probably wouldnt like it
M3ta7h3ad	Posted - 2006.03.09 15:26:00 - [10] Many macro programs by default warp out as soon as a ships health drops below a certain level. I've found that a macroers ship is completely unresponsive until the last 30% of armour and it then trys running (it aint gonna get away from a caracal with 5 scramblers on it :D). ----- Memorable Quotes <Jarltan Dimtras> OH MY GOD MY GF IS A DUDE
Ardent Rellik	Posted - 2006.03.09 15:27:00 - [11] Ok Dude, perhaps they were macroing, perhaps they were not. However, since they "ran away and docked" it leads me to believe that they were next to their PCs which means they were NOT macroing. Secocond, you belong to an NPC corp and Claim that you are an "Anti-macro" ALT. However, this is what is stated in your bio: Greetings. If you are reading this be aware this is an anti macro alt. If you are a macro miner - you are fair game to me. If I do nail you please be so kind as to add a bounty it will be most helpful :) POd kill you later :) PS - If you do not want your ship and tins blow up I will take payment in the following matters Barges = 25 million isk Industrals - 20 million isk Cargo tins - 5 million isk Now, another statement, that you have declared on them, WTF, another lie, I checked the status and Ominous is not dece. by ANYONE. Please enlighten me, so, you are an Anti Macro ALT/ and you see macrominers, yet you will take their ISK, as you have stated: Barges = 25 million isk Industrals - 20 million isk Cargo tins - 5 million isk And let them Go? LOL, this entire thread was started with an intention to flamebait and should be closed. I wouldnt take YOUR word for it mate, sorry, not with the evidence you provided to me that you are just a a silly griefer who is afraid to use his main.
Subaru Yakamitsukamosuki	Posted - 2006.03.09 15:28:00 - [12] Originally by: Ardent Rellik Ok Dude, perhaps they were macroing, perhaps they were not. However, since they "ran away and docked" it leads me to believe that they were next to their PCs which means they were NOT macroing. Secocond, you belong to an NPC corp and Claim that you are an "Anti-macro" ALT. However, this is what is stated in your bio: Greetings. If you are reading this be aware this is an anti macro alt. If you are a macro miner - you are fair game to me. If I do nail you please be so kind as to add a bounty it will be most helpful :) POd kill you later :) PS - If you do not want your ship and tins blow up I will take payment in the following matters Barges = 25 million isk Industrals - 20 million isk Cargo tins - 5 million isk Now, another statement, that you have declared on them, WTF, another lie, I checked the status and Ominous is not dece. by ANYONE. Please enlighten me, so, you are an Anti Macro ALT/ and you see macrominers, yet you will take their ISK, as you have stated: Barges = 25 million isk Industrals - 20 million isk Cargo tins - 5 million isk And let them Go? LOL, this entire thread was started with an intention to flamebait and should be closed. I wouldnt take YOUR word for it mate, sorry, not with the evidence you provided to me that you are just a a silly griefer who is afraid to use his main. PWNED
Arshes Nei	Posted - 2006.03.09 15:33:00 - [13] Edited by: Arshes Nei on 09/03/2006 15:37:17 Edited by: Arshes Nei on 09/03/2006 15:35:13 Originally by: Uael Originally by: Caledric How did you know they were macro mining? Obviously they weren't afk as they managed to warp out and flee from you so how does one determine this? Yeah, I'd like to know this too. How are you defining MacroMining? Because what you described just sounds like a Corp mining event, which many corps do, including my own. What is wrong with a mining corp coming together and mining in a belt? I mean thats the whole point of a mining corp, isn't it? If you want to attack them, thats fine, its all part of the Eve fun. Just don't try and justify it by calling them macrominers and claiming you are doing a service to the community. /Salute Its fairly easy to discern macro miners from normal miners, behind normal miners there are real people, behind macro miners are ... well macros. So if you found a whole group of miners who behave even more stupid then npcs, or dont react at all no matter what you do, yet keep merrily mining and shifting ore into cans, its fairly safe to assume that they either are pretty weird macroers Either way they deserve to get their remeins thoroughly looted, getting podded and their ships destroyed ... umh .. not necessarily in that order though ... i always get the order wrong :( P.S. Not being able to speak english is no problem btw, getting cursed in a language you never even heard of before is not only entertaining(dont forget to take notes) and educational, its also a fairly sure indication there is no macro involved
Caledric	Posted - 2006.03.09 15:37:00 - [14] Originally by: Arshes Nei Originally by: Uael Originally by: Caledric How did you know they were macro mining? Obviously they weren't afk as they managed to warp out and flee from you so how does one determine this? Yeah, I'd like to know this too. How are you defining MacroMining? Because what you described just sounds like a Corp mining event, which many corps do, including my own. What is wrong with a mining corp coming together and mining in a belt? I mean thats the whole point of a mining corp, isn't it? If you want to attack them, thats fine, its all part of the Eve fun. Just don't try and justify it by calling them macrominers and claiming you are doing a service to the community. /Salute Its fairly easy to discern macro miners from normal miners, behind normal miners there are real people, behind macro miners are ... well macros. So if found a whole group of miners who behave even more stupid then npcs, or dont react at all no matter what you do, yet keep merrily mining and shifting ore into cans, its fairly safe to assume that they either are pretty weird macroers Either way they deserve to get their remeins thoroughly looted, getting podded and their ships destroyed ... umh .. not necessarily in that order though ... i always get the order wrong :( I tend to mine in my Prophecy with just 2 miner 2's and aligned towards the nearest station (anyone who has ever tried to warp in a proph knows it takes longer then a battleship to align!) However, if someone comes in my belt... I don't move or awknowledge them until they target me, that is when the drones come out and the lasers become primed. You can talk to me, ram me, and hump my ship all you want. I'm not saying a word to you, first aggressive act you make towards me however will be your last as well.
Lisento Slaven	Posted - 2006.03.09 15:40:00 - [15] Regardless of the stuff in his bio here's what I find about "macrominers" these days: They are fewer and fewer because people are opting to just get multiple accounts. Why should you macromine when you can manage 5 accounts in your own room on a few PC's within game rules. It's harder to tell who is macromining with all these people who own 2+ accounts these days. The only way I have been able to figure out if someone is a macrominer is to request a conversation with every single person in the group in question. I know a lot of people who own multiple accounts and do mining ops on their own, by themselves, and they're usually watching at least one of the screens at any given time. I also start bumping them away from their cans etc. If I don't get a response within 5 minutes, from any of them, I assume they're macromining. Petition them and if they're in a player corp, I guess you could always war dec them if you think it will pay off.
Bex Beere	Posted - 2006.03.09 15:41:00 - [16] I'd also like to know how you decided they were macrominers. Macrominers would not have run away and docked in the station they would have just sat there and let you blow them up. Maybe you tried to talk to them in local - if so next time try asking in Chinese as they understand very little english but will be only to happy to converse with you in their native Chinese language. Must admit your bio did impress me though, especially the bit that reads: Quote: PS - If you do not want your ship and tins blow up I will take payment in the following matters Barges = 25 million isk Industrals - 20 million isk Cargo tins - 5 million isk These players joined a player corp to avoid pirates like yourself who would attack them for the simple reason that they could not speak English in local. Eve is a multi-national game and anyone who harrasses other players just because they are unable to converse in English should be banned as soon as possible. Bex Beere Director Ominous Corp
ollobrains	Posted - 2006.03.09 16:30:00 - [17] a couple of points - a lot of ppl have suspicions of onimous corp - the game default is english - alternative languages are a good idea but if unable to converse they miss a lot of the communications ability. Some sort of translation software perhaps needed ingame ? If u want a defined macro miner (or at the very least ISK farmer run semi automatically the 5 PCs in a room gag) look at royal horse guard they have been decimated by the 5th front enterprises corp from 26 members down to 3-8 currently We have been following onimous corp but so far have failed to have definite proof followed by actual english conversations from one of their reps about looting their cans. So not so sure.
Jinx Barker	Posted - 2006.03.09 16:39:00 - [18] Originally by: ollobrains a couple of points - a lot of ppl have suspicions of onimous corp - the game default is english - alternative languages are a good idea but if unable to converse they miss a lot of the communications ability. Some sort of translation software perhaps needed ingame ? If u want a defined macro miner (or at the very least ISK farmer run semi automatically the 5 PCs in a room gag) look at royal horse guard they have been decimated by the 5th front enterprises corp from 26 members down to 3-8 currently We have been following onimous corp but so far have failed to have definite proof followed by actual english conversations from one of their reps about looting their cans. So not so sure. So, what you are saying? You are not sure they are doing something wrong, or are you unsure that they are NOT completley legit? I am sorry I got confused by your post.
Madcap Magician	Posted - 2006.03.09 17:37:00 - [19] You would do best to apologize to my old friends. A threat towards my old buddies in Ominous is a threat to my current buddies in Finite Horizon. Do not make that threat lightly I urge you. Come and get some!
Hellspawn666	Posted - 2006.03.09 18:05:00 - [20] Originally by: Madcap Magician You would do best to apologize to my old friends. A threat towards my old buddies in Ominous is a threat to my current buddies in Finite Horizon. Do not make that threat lightly I urge you. Threats in eve are so pointless, not only does it make you sound geeky, fat and the sterotype of a D&D player but it also makes u sound like enslaver.
Empyre	Posted - 2006.03.09 18:13:00 - [21] Originally by: Uael Yeah, I'd like to know this too. How are you defining MacroMining? Because what you described just sounds like a Corp mining event, which many corps do, including my own. What is wrong with a mining corp coming together and mining in a belt? I mean thats the whole point of a mining corp, isn't it? If you want to attack them, thats fine, its all part of the Eve fun. Just don't try and justify it by calling them macrominers and claiming you are doing a service to the community. /Salute Uael, were you in C88s in WoW? sorry to hijack, but this thread was dead before it began.. ----- my playstyle is anti-pirate. what does this mean? it means you'll never catch me in a valuable ship and/or setup where it can be compromised. go on, trade your ammo for the scraps you'll get.
Tobiaz	Posted - 2006.03.09 18:24:00 - [22] Originally by: Bex Beere I'd also like to know how you decided they were macrominers. Macrominers would not have run away and docked in the station they would have just sat there and let you blow them up. Maybe you tried to talk to them in local - if so next time try asking in Chinese as they understand very little english but will be only to happy to converse with you in their native Chinese language. Load of crap. The most common macrominer type are groups of around 5 retrievers/apocs/ospreys mining solo or in pairs spread over a system with one or two haulers. The miners are controlled by a macro and looked after by the person flying the hauler. That means they can be a bit sluggish in responding to threats, orethieves, bumping etc. but they can also notice it immedately in which case they often relocate to a different system. If you continue to chase them they'll often dock and wait untill you have left. As for trying to talk to them. Most I've ever gotten out of them is a stream of broken english insults, but usually they ignore everything and have autoreject on convos (since that can break their macro). This doesn't mean that if you'd encounter a single barge, controlled by an actual english speaking player who is paying attention to what happens around him, is by never running a macro. The one doesn't exclude the other. Thing is, especially in barges, mining is so damn tedious and easy to macro, many will do it. Whether to sell the isk or buy a new ship for their main account. Motive is irrelevant. Spacerats hibernating
Twilight Moon	Posted - 2006.03.09 18:31:00 - [23] Originally by: Hellspawn666 Originally by: Madcap Magician You would do best to apologize to my old friends. A threat towards my old buddies in Ominous is a threat to my current buddies in Finite Horizon. Do not make that threat lightly I urge you. Threats in eve are so pointless, not only does it make you sound geeky, fat and the sterotype of a D&D player but it also makes u sound like enslaver. Massively Multiplayer Role Playing Game. Note the role playing bit?
Nee'kita Frist	Posted - 2006.03.09 18:40:00 - [24] I live in fear of the anti-macro movement, not because I am a macro user but because of the way people have been describing them as of late... I sound like one... By the way I don't keep an eye on local, in fact I miminise it whilst mining, I couldn't care what people say on local, I'm just here to relax and destroy a belt.
Quanteeri	Posted - 2006.03.09 19:06:00 - [25] Note to Macro builders, please include an option to spew obscenities into local, upon breakage of macro. Preferably in broken Chinenglish. FN Retardo OP
Kes Olar	Posted - 2006.03.09 19:40:00 - [26] I agree Nee, I never look at local, and I care very little about the players that come into the roid belt, it is pretty arrogant of other players to think, " you must behave in a certain manner or you are cheating " So this means other players are giving themselves the rights to dictate how you play a game you pay for if they decide you are cheating. I will watch telly, make a drink, go for a slash whatever I want while I am mining, and don't react until I get a lock on me, so am I now a macro miner as you bumped my ship spoke in local and got no response from me. What a crock, leave the cheating detecting to CCP, if you suspect people report them, and if you are going to attack other players atleast be honest on why you are doing it and not with the poor pathetic excuse of "I think your cheating" you are doing it as your a pirate.
Uncauzi	Posted - 2006.03.09 20:18:00 - [27] Originally by: Commander Wiggan - Yquqwoe - Yiuyieiua - Yaosidd - Yahghs - Iwujqwe Non Omnicopr that were also mining in to the same tin - adaqwe Those "names" are all I'd need to see to assume a macrominer, honestly. They deserve to die for a lack of creativity alone.
Quanteeri	Posted - 2006.03.09 20:53:00 - [28] Originally by: Uncauzi Originally by: Commander Wiggan - Yquqwoe - Yiuyieiua - Yaosidd - Yahghs - Iwujqwe Non Omnicopr that were also mining in to the same tin - adaqwe Those "names" are all I'd need to see to assume a macrominer, honestly. They deserve to die for a lack of creativity alone. Then you're an ignorant bumpkin. Many languages do not translate well when spelled by pronunciation into English. Chinese, in particular, is one of the worst that I've seen for phonetic translation. Personally, I don't know a lick of Chinese, but I'm smart enough to know that those names DO actualy pronounce into a word. They aren't simply jibbrish.
MrTripps	Posted - 2006.03.09 22:13:00 - [29] "Some sort of translation software perhaps needed ingame?" I'm sure CCP could throw that in there in just a couple of hours or so. Can you imagine playing the game as translated through Babblefish? Your luminous explosion weapon encounters 55 score of hurt.
Uncauzi	Posted - 2006.03.09 22:45:00 - [30] Originally by: Quanteeri Then you're an ignorant bumpkin. Many languages do not translate well when spelled by pronunciation into English. Chinese, in particular, is one of the worst that I've seen for phonetic translation. Personally, I don't know a lick of Chinese, but I'm smart enough to know that those names DO actualy pronounce into a word. They aren't simply jibbrish. No, they don't. I've played Lineage 1 & 2 and I've played FFXI. All of those games had heavy Asian populations and they all had actual names. Although, if you can pronounce them into a word, please do, I am immensely curious. Again, I'd have blown them out of the sky (if able) due to their names alone.

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