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KAIZOKU SAMURAI
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Posted - 2006.03.11 11:26:00 -
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Ok, what race do you guys feel has the best Interceptor ships?
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Drilla Killa
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Posted - 2006.03.11 11:29:00 -
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Missiles - caldari (crow)
guns - taranis (gallente)
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.03.11 11:35:00 -
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Tbh, that was no help, but yknow...
Speed and Damage - Minmatar (claw)
Blockade running - Amarr (crusader)
Ganking larger targets - Gallante (Taranis)
Tackling - Minmatar (stiletto)
Being generally noobish and too scared to get in close for a good fight - Caldari (Crow)
Any help?
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.03.11 11:39:00 -
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atm... crow is hot:)
Originally by: Commander Nikolas
People like Lukec are the problem and they know it. Shin Ra's Raven has 4x WCS, Lukec's Dominix has 5x WCS & Ishtar has 2x WCS.
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MercedesBenz
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Posted - 2006.03.11 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
Antipiracy is causing brain damage
LOL
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Banditten
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Posted - 2006.03.11 12:33:00 -
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If you want to tackle any ceptor will do, however the Stiletto will do it best.
If you want to do 1v1 you need a 3 mid-slot ceptor as you'll also need a web to keep your opponent from fleeing.
As for the 3 mid-slot ceptors you have:
Malediction: No gun bonus. It does have a missile bonus, that will only at most affect two bays. Not the greatest ceptor in the world for 1v1 but if you have good skills and can't fly other ceptors, just use it anyway...
Stiletto: I suppose you can use this just fine, if you fit some kind of EW. Not my cup of tea tho.
Crow: Very good ceptor, if you're missile specced.
Taranis: Looks on paper like it's the best 1v1 ceptor in the game for a gunnery specced char. I'm training for this one atm, after having flied Amarr and Minnie ceptors for a while.
If you have the money, stick a t2 mwd on a Jaguar and go eat all of the above ceptors only downside is that it's harder to run a blockade and you're faster to target...
You can also just kit out a Rifter with 200mm autos, rockets, an AB and a 400mm plate that actually worked wonders against a Raptor the other day, both ships had only t1 fitting tho, dunno why on earth he hadn't bought named stuff atleast ;)
Well, my 2 isk.
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.03.11 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
atm... crow is hot:)
damn good sig :) 
for me taranis da best
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Ryysa
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Posted - 2006.03.11 15:04:00 -
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Edited by: Ryysa on 11/03/2006 15:04:33
meh, 1v1 atm.... either taranis with t2 drones or plated rocketcrow...
They are pretty much equal, comes down to the skill of the pilot flying either...
Then again, jaegerbomb claw > * :P
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Kunming
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Posted - 2006.03.11 15:29:00 -
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Crow with faction mwd and t2 missiles is pretty interesting to do hit and runs with.
Close range taranis, long range claw imo.
I love my ares in large battles, very vestile. Malediction and stilleto are great to go after stabbed targets, taranis is a bit sluggish when it comes to speed though.
I hear good things about the raptor but never tried one out yet.
Overall if I could change anything on the ceptors I would change the EM missile bonus on the malediction and therm missile bonus on the ares to something more useful. I almost never used EM missiles on a malediction.
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Valea Silpha
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Posted - 2006.03.11 15:32:00 -
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The crow is probably the favorite inty for general purposenss at the moment. It annoys me tho... doesn't seem fair that it doesn't have to care about transversal velocity what so ever.
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NirvanaA
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Posted - 2006.03.11 15:34:00 -
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How come no have has mentioned the Claw? This inty is just as good if not better than most inties if played right.
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Wesley Harding
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Posted - 2006.03.11 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: Wesley Harding on 11/03/2006 15:39:20
How come standard missle Crows are never recommended?
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Linavin
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Posted - 2006.03.11 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Banditten
Malediction: No gun bonus.
Erm "Amarr Frigate Skill Bonus: 10% reduction in Small Energy Turret capacitor use and 5% bonus to Small Energy Turret damage per level"
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Flash Landsraad
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Posted - 2006.03.11 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Linavin
Originally by: Banditten
Malediction: No gun bonus.
Erm "Amarr Frigate Skill Bonus: 10% reduction in Small Energy Turret capacitor use and 5% bonus to Small Energy Turret damage per level"
That's the crusader. Malediction has EM missile dmg bonus? Haven't flown one in a while though so could be wrong.
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Ryysa
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Posted - 2006.03.11 16:10:00 -
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Edited by: Ryysa on 11/03/2006 16:12:46
Originally by: NirvanaA
How come no have has mentioned the Claw? This inty is just as good if not better than most inties if played right.
wrong, it has 2 midslots...
The only way to play it right vs other inties in 1v1 is to not fit an MWD at all and fit 400mmplate+small rep for jaegerbomb setup.
And before you start saying how uber damage claw has, for gangs, taranis can do better damage and still have 3 mids...
Arty claw setups suck nowadays....
And why are missile crows not recommended? because rockets do more dps, and 400mm plate helps survivability a lot.
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Manion Taleroth
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Posted - 2006.03.11 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Wesley Harding
Edited by: Wesley Harding on 11/03/2006 15:39:20
How come standard missle Crows are never recommended?
I've seen two people in this thread recommend the Crow using missles.
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Vathar
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Posted - 2006.03.11 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Flash Landsraad
Originally by: Linavin
Originally by: Banditten
Malediction: No gun bonus.
Erm "Amarr Frigate Skill Bonus: 10% reduction in Small Energy Turret capacitor use and 5% bonus to Small Energy Turret damage per level"
That's the crusader. Malediction has EM missile dmg bonus? Haven't flown one in a while though so could be wrong.
Erm, to put it bluntly, you're wrong ... happens to everybody from time to time, so it's not a big deal 
Malediction has turrets damage bonus linked to frigate skills (therefore, 25% damage bonus if you can fly it) ... EM missile damage is linked to the interceptor skill
However, it's a very good inty, much more versatile in gangs than a taranis ... but will probably have a lot of trouble against a close range inty, especially considering that most inties are armor tanked, and you've to rely on laser damage ...
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Toucan Sam
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Posted - 2006.03.11 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kunming
I love my ares in large battles, very vestile.
Wow, I'm NOT the only one 
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Wesley Harding
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Posted - 2006.03.11 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Manion Taleroth
Originally by: Wesley Harding
Edited by: Wesley Harding on 11/03/2006 15:39:20
How come standard missle Crows are never recommended?
I've seen two people in this thread recommend the Crow using missles.
They seemed to refer to missles in general, like if you like missles, use the Crow. Most people when fittings are mentioned say rockets.
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.03.11 18:21:00 -
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Light missile crows OWN.
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Pehova Mindtriq
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Posted - 2006.03.11 18:33:00 -
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tackler: minmatar (stiletto) - 4 midslots
1vs1: gallente(taranis) & caldari (crow) - I think 2 midslots aren't enough so the claw and crusader are out. That leaves malediction and stiletto for both those races and they get outdamaged by taranis and crow.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.03.11 19:00:00 -
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The Wolf is one of the best Interceptors.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Aurra Nym
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Posted - 2006.03.11 20:17:00 -
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Professor McFly
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Posted - 2006.03.11 20:19:00 -
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Amarr ones look coolest. What else matters?
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RedWyvern
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Posted - 2006.03.11 22:02:00 -
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an interceptor's main role is to tackle, hence the 4 midslot Stiletto (which is also one of the fastest) is favourable.
For fighting - meh. Setup matters more than ship imho. Oh, and I'm an Ares pilot btw.
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Hoshi
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Posted - 2006.03.11 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Wesley Harding
Edited by: Wesley Harding on 11/03/2006 15:39:20
How come standard missle Crows are never recommended?
Standard missile crow has very bad damage output. But if you are there in a group to tackle you might not need to be a damage dealer. Depends on what it want to use the ship for, that's one of the strong side with the crow, its flexibility. It might not be best and anything but it can be good at a lot of things.
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Foulis
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Posted - 2006.03.11 23:52:00 -
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Taranis wins, hands down. Only thing that can beat it is a standard missle crow. Small target? Null S. Large target? Void S. Nothing will beat that.
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Originally by: CCP Hammer
Boobies
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.03.12 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Foulis
Taranis wins, hands down. Only thing that can beat it is a standard missle crow. Small target? Null S. Large target? Void S. Nothing will beat that.
Um... blastertaranis is dead taranis. Even raptor can kill that.
About std. crow, atm i cannot think of inty that could beat it. Possibly taranis with rails if it has some nice stuff on, else std crow just win. You have to know what you are doing though.
Originally by: Commander Nikolas
People like Lukec are the problem and they know it. Shin Ra's Raven has 4x WCS, Lukec's Dominix has 5x WCS & Ishtar has 2x WCS.
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Foulis
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Posted - 2006.03.12 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Foulis
Taranis wins, hands down. Only thing that can beat it is a standard missle crow. Small target? Null S. Large target? Void S. Nothing will beat that.
Um... blastertaranis is dead taranis. Even raptor can kill that.
Really? Damn I gotta go self-destruct my blasteranis then, 'cause it should have been killed by those cruisers, or that crow, or maybe that claw. Blasters on a taranis is really, really powerful.
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Originally by: CCP Hammer
Boobies
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Banditten
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Posted - 2006.03.12 12:59:00 -
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A blaster Ranis isn't end all be all in the ceptor department. You can setup a ceptor to do closerange high DPS output or long range medium DPS output.
Needless to say, your Ranis will be doing 0 damage if it isn't hitting ;)
I've taken down a fully t2 fitted blaster Ranis very easily in a Malediction fitted with 3x medium pulse and scorch crystals. He never got into range to take me out, I orbit at 15km. Further more 250mm lights II on a Claw with t2 ammo has a nice range of 22km optimal. I'm not saying that one setup is better than the other, just that it all depends on the circumstances and how experienced the pilot is. And yes, it is viable to fit a 20km disruptor on a ceptor...
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