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Brutor Shaun	Posted - 2006.03.11 20:20:00 - [1] Just finished this mission using a Cyclone BC, and I've got to admit it's the only lvl 3 I've struggled with in a BC. Respawns like crazy, and lives up to it's name as the attacks are MASSIVE!!! I was back and forth to my station for ammo and repairs several times, and the only thing that made it completable was that I could set BMs inside each section of the mission. Anyone else had the same problem with this mission? LEAVE MY SIG ALONE!!!
Gavri	Posted - 2006.03.12 00:51:00 - [2] Yes, the first time I did it with a corpmate, he ctd'd on the 3rd level with all the frigs and cruisers and my brutix was peeled like a overripe banana. :( We ended up having to get a bs to help us. My skills still need much improving, but that mission was the first time I'd lost my brutix doing a lvl3 and I never had that problem on the others. I think this mission is too hard, even Portal to War didn't rip me up that fast. It's a mission I'm declining from now on.
Tea Spoon	Posted - 2006.03.12 02:26:00 - [3] yeah... did both, portal of war and massive attack in bc - cyclone fitted with t2 only got thru them without warping, but i think they are a bit too much for lvl3 and no... i wasnt using wrong setup =] -- chasing brain in warp --
Cmdr Sy	Posted - 2006.03.12 02:31:00 - [4] I did it in a Sacrilege just now and found their attempts to break my tank pitiful. Even the sentry gun tier only peeled a fifth of my armour before it was repaired. I had a friend along in a Thorax, he sped things up a bit when he showed up, but it was obvious from the start that I could tank the lot. In my opinion Portal to War 2/5 is a tougher mission both in terms of enemy tanks and damage output. Though it still takes me half an hour.
Topodo	Posted - 2006.03.12 07:36:00 - [5] Tanking against thermal in my Brut, I had an easier time with Massive Attack than most of the toughest level 3's. I can see where a shield tanker would have a hard time, though. Some of the EM damage you can take is, well, massive...
Erik Pathfinder	Posted - 2006.03.12 10:40:00 - [6] Originally by: Topodo Tanking against thermal in my Brut, I had an easier time with Massive Attack than most of the toughest level 3's. I can see where a shield tanker would have a hard time, though. Some of the EM damage you can take is, well, massive... I'm a shield tanker, no problems here. Cerberus with 2 large extenders and an EM hardener + small shield booster = no problems. I wub my cerberus... ---------------
Lorette	Posted - 2006.03.12 11:14:00 - [7] I completed massive attack solo with a brutix, just a lrg SB2+amp to rep dmg. I had 0 EM and 20 therm resistance, finished the mission with 99% armor.
alishis	Posted - 2006.03.12 11:42:00 - [8] Im new on Lvl 3 missions , but i have very fun killing all in a Prophecy with armor tanking , so well a friend of mine help me to finish the last lvl, yeah is very hard to acomplish so well is a new way to go prepared to missions lvl 4 ... instantly i get this mission off , 2 days later i receive a offer of a intel +2 implant from my agent.
ThrudUK	Posted - 2006.03.14 22:24:00 - [9] Well, I just lost a Ferox to this mission. Biggest problem I had with this (apart from dying) seemed to be some issue with the gates between sections... corp mate couldn't get through fast enough... i.e. we're talking several minutes.... he was 300m away and it said he was too far away or some such nonsense! Oh, well, we live and learn... I'll be back to this.... with more than 11000 shield! Bloody EM damage!
Jaddor	Posted - 2006.03.14 22:28:00 - [10] I thought this one was very easy in my Ferox.
Trell Asaker	Posted - 2006.03.15 07:14:00 - [11] Hi, If this is supposed to be easy with Ferox then give me a hint about the configuration. I have been trying this few times with Ferox equipped with 5 heavy launchers, 2 med. nosferatu, 2 x named med shield boosters, 2 x invulnearibility shield, low slots are for cap recharge upgrades, ballistic control and one WCS (learned to use WCS after I lost one Ferox to horde of rats with scrambler some where once...) I can keep my shield tank up for some time, but I feel like I'm doing too little damage all the time. Thanks already for hints. city4dev.city.fi/kuvagalleria/kuvat/54/53/92/545392.jpg[/IMG] Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
MMXMMX	Posted - 2006.03.15 08:18:00 - [12] No trobble in my Raven . Stop doing level 3 in a Ferox :)
Nicholai Pestot	Posted - 2006.03.15 10:29:00 - [13] Originally by: MMXMMX No trobble in my Raven . Stop doing level 3 in a Ferox :) Well i did this level in a Vexor. I had to warp out of section two and three once, but the fact its not deadspace means you can use BM's to circumnavigate the earlyer gates. The section with the overseer in was a laugh. Killed the overseer, wiped out the turrets then sat there tanking the swarmers while my drones killed the constantly spawning little buggas. Lotsa cash The key is just a good EM/Thermal tank. With shields you want to forget the invunerablity fields ang go full EM/Therm ________________ What you do is you store up the rage, let it fester while you gain strength, then use it to gank those weaker than you... and so the circle of life is complete
Trell Asaker	Posted - 2006.03.15 11:33:00 - [14] Ok, thanks for the tips. I will switch to EM and thermal tanking. I'll let you know how it goes - by the way... Any specific missiles I should use? city4dev.city.fi/kuvagalleria/kuvat/54/53/92/545392.jpg[/IMG] Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Solomon Cayne	Posted - 2006.03.15 11:59:00 - [15] Done this a few times now in my Ferox, without breaking 60% shields. Highs: 5x XR-3200 Heavies shooting Widowmakers. 2x Prototype 125mm shooting mostly antimatter. Meds: 3xLarge Shield Extender II 1xNamed EM Shield Hardener 1xNamed Thermal Hardener Lows: 1x Type-D PDU 2X Type-D SPR 1x BCU II 4x Hobgoblin Drones Got 576k SP in Engineering and 1,2 mill in missiles. 11900 Shield HP and 61 shield/second recharge at 33%. This thing can tank all level 3s without breaking a sweat, including Downing the Slavers 2/2, as long as you fit proper hardeners for the job. On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
Heffy	Posted - 2006.03.15 13:00:00 - [16] Yeah, did this no problem in a Brutix last night. Like others have said, EM/THERM tank and you are all set. It was very easy w/ 1 Repper, 2 Em & 2 Therm hardeners in the lows. Just don't get scared when your shields drop in seconds w/ all the EM damage =).
INkog	Posted - 2006.03.15 13:06:00 - [17] Solomon's setup ^ is good, but use EM damage. I just did this mission for the first time last night and didn't even get past 60% shields. Take out the Missile Batteries first, then the big boys. Drones are you best friend against frigs. I don't even bother with NOS, I pack 2 tractor beams to loot cans while I spank arse :). A Ferox is meant to passive tank. 3 Large Shield Extender II's + 2 rat specific hardeners is all you need.
Mike Yagon	Posted - 2006.03.15 15:31:00 - [18] Also, the mission is not deadspace. So if you can be bothered taking the hassle, you can shuttle in and make a bookmark, then warp into the pockets at 100km range and snipe everything one by one.
vylana	Posted - 2006.03.15 17:10:00 - [19] "If this is supposed to be easy with Ferox then give me a hint about the configuration. I have been trying this few times with Ferox equipped with 5 heavy launchers, 2 med. nosferatu, 2 x named med shield boosters, 2 x invulnearibility shield, low slots are for cap recharge upgrades, ballistic control and one WCS (learned to use WCS after I lost one Ferox to horde of rats with scrambler some where once...)" Well, first of all... what are you doing active tanking in a Ferox? The Ferox is built to passive tank... 3x t2 shield extenders, 1x invuln field, 1x specific hardener, 2x SPR, 2x BCU (or a 3rd SPR and just 1 BCU if you really need it). I've done that mission several times with my Ferox and never found it difficult at all. The acceleration gates in it do seem broken though; took a while to get them to work, had to try them from different sides.
David Sinclair	Posted - 2006.03.15 18:49:00 - [20] I first got this mission last night, and I gotta say, Sansha's Nation has the coolest toys and the sweetest bases. Anyone know is Sansha's is accepting applications?
Tripp Orsam	Posted - 2006.03.16 02:41:00 - [21] I found this one not hard at all, but I did check which damage to tank and deal before heading out :) ----------------------------- EVE Online perfectly strikes all your free time wrecking your 1994 marriage.
Jaeuhl	Posted - 2006.03.16 08:07:00 - [22] It seems more intimidating that it looks, but I didn't have a problem finishing it in my Ferox (passive tank). You don't need an AB so that frees up a mid slot for anything else you might want to put there. I think Once I got to the end I got into a rythmn and drones/lights were on the frigates, heavies and rails were on the sentries and overseer. I stayed long after the overseer was popped, until I ran out of ammo. I'd imagine someone with a good armor tank setup and laser could just sit and pop frigates and sentries all day making a nice chunk of change with little to no cost at all. Not recommended for someone without a decent skill set in engineering/shields(if that's your tank) but doable.
Irishka K	Posted - 2006.03.16 09:35:00 - [23] Nice mission, for last pocket, with Overser, i make little macro for targeting and killing swarmers with my scout drones :) I stop it after one hour ...hehe, looks like this little beasts spawn in unlimited numbers. Passive Ferrox can tank it easy. But dont take this mission on 4 level, 2nd pocket with centry guns is deadly if you have little lag.
Mike Yagon	Posted - 2006.03.16 10:40:00 - [24] Also, I went through the trouble of getting the tag needed to go to the "Overseer's Stash", when I got there and I destroyed the bunker called "Overseer's Stash" it dropped no loot. So no need to bother getting the tags and trying your luck with it. :) (60 jumps to get the damn tag, heh, 30 to, and 30 back. ) I can only imagine the money farm you can set up there with a couple of large smartbombs.
Sicariidae	Posted - 2006.03.16 12:32:00 - [25] I just got this mission today, first stage pretty quick. I was like oh, that was easy.. onto the next stage.. Now in the second stage I was agianst all but 5 or 6 cruisers at the other side, they ate through my 30% amp + large Dg booster 2x t2-em 2x t2-therm pretty fast, might've been the useless 3x t2bcu's in the bottom of my raven or my crap drone skills but either way i had to run home with my tail between my legs, came back with lows full of pdu2's just incase and got through it really fast. then the last stage.. it was laughably easy and I just sat there with my drones going around chasing every spawn. was pretty funny actually.
Bodestone	Posted - 2006.03.17 18:23:00 - [26] The problem I have with this is that I cannot access the last gate. It tells me I need a silver tag but non of the spawns drop one.
Mike Yagon	Posted - 2006.03.17 18:47:00 - [27] Edited by: Mike Yagon on 17/03/2006 18:48:31 You don't have to go there though. You only need to kill the overseer. edit Just for kicks I spend 60 jumps (30 jumps to and 30 back) to get the tag needed to activate the gate. When I got there and I broke the stash no loot dropped. So that was an hour of jumping wasted.
Bodestone	Posted - 2006.03.17 20:19:00 - [28] Edited by: Bodestone on 17/03/2006 20:20:31 Hmm, killed all spawns several times round and no overseer. Well all spawns in the areas we could reach, which was up to the area with 2 gates, one back to the turrets and one which was inaccessible
Whalesaver	Posted - 2006.03.18 01:33:00 - [29] Same, killed overseer, fetched silver tag - went to bonus, destroyed his stash and no loot drop. That's just plain wrong ----------------------- Doesn't shoot first Will ask questions later And enjoys a nice cup of tea
Vasiliyan	Posted - 2006.03.18 03:42:00 - [30] Did it in my Brutix and less than 3mil skillpoints, but I needed help on the last stage to deal with the respawning sentry guns and the overseer (not enough damage output). I did fill the lowslots with 2xEM 2xThermal active hardeners and a T2 Medium ARU. It's worth bringing small drones for the third stage as there are lots of tough nasty frigates.
Lorette	Posted - 2006.03.18 08:52:00 - [31] This mission is a breeze, ive done it about 5-6 times now and can easily finish it under 35mins in me brutix (only grabbing some cans), even without hardners the only part that gets my SB going for a long time is the mob of 10-12 frigs in part 3. *As pointed out earlier thats with 0 EM and 20 Therm resists
David Darkstar	Posted - 2006.03.18 13:39:00 - [32] Lost my Proph to this mission yesterday, but mainly to personal carelesness and stupidity. a) I didn't know you could bookmark the later levels and warp into them from the station, so I wasted a LOT of time going through each level again and again. b) Failed to align in the 3rd level, got webbed, and before I could pivot the ship for warp I was toast. I went to get a new Proph (hurray for 100% insurance that was going to run out next week ), fitted it out wth 15 Mil in goodies, and promptly finished the mish in 3 more runs. I spent 5 and a half hours on it... If I'd known I could warp to stage 3 directly, it would've taken me 1 hour probably.
Andrymeda	Posted - 2006.03.18 17:35:00 - [33] Originally by: Topodo Tanking against thermal in my Brut, I had an easier time with Massive Attack than most of the toughest level 3's. I can see where a shield tanker would have a hard time, though. Some of the EM damage you can take is, well, massive... The worst they could do in my Cerberus was get my shields down to 97%. That was in the overseer room. Cap never went below about 45%. I could keep it up all day, but it was a against a bunch of frigs and sentries.
Jaddor	Posted - 2006.03.18 17:44:00 - [34] Even as a noob I found this mission mind numbingly easy. I didn't have any tags for the bonus levels and the only one located was 11 jumps away so maybe thats the hard part but the rest is basically cake even for a noob in a BC.
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.03.18 20:48:00 - [35] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 18/03/2006 20:51:46 Originally by: Brutor Shaun Just finished this mission using a Cyclone BC, and I've got to admit it's the only lvl 3 I've struggled with in a BC. Respawns like crazy, and lives up to it's name as the attacks are MASSIVE!!! I was back and forth to my station for ammo and repairs several times, and the only thing that made it completable was that I could set BMs inside each section of the mission. Anyone else had the same problem with this mission? I just got this as my first level 3 mission. They were very welcoming: [ 2006.03.18 20:21:58 ] Centii Loyal Manslayer strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 86.0 damage. [ 2006.03.18 20:22:02 ] Sabretooth Light Missile belonging to Sansha's Nation hits you, doing 144.3 damage. [ 2006.03.18 20:22:02 ] Thunderbolt Heavy Missile belonging to Sansha's Nation hits you, doing 288.6 damage. [ 2006.03.18 20:22:02 ] Thunderbolt Heavy Missile belonging to Sansha's Nation hits you, doing 288.6 damage Think ill let them live for a while longer, since im a nice guy.... --- "Automatic override. Manual control overridden by autopilot. Please wait for operation to complete. You can override the automatic autopilot override in 28 seconds. Then you can make it wait"
Skaaltel	Posted - 2006.03.19 04:43:00 - [36] Don't feel too bad mate. I did the EXACT same thing as you.. "a) I didn't know you could bookmark the later levels and warp into them from the station, so I wasted a LOT of time going through each level again and again. Embarassed b) Failed to align in the 3rd level, got webbed, and before I could pivot the ship for warp I was toast." I thought this mission was ridiculously difficult.... in the 3rd stage. I tried all kinds of ridiculous setups on my brutix. This mission and slave trader 2 are waaaaaaay out of line with all the other level 3 missions. I like a challenge, something to look forward to eventually beating easily... but a hac? millions in gunnery skills? oh well. only 2 months to a deimos :( www.modthebox.com
Guillaume Yu	Posted - 2006.03.19 11:52:00 - [37] The first time I did this mission it took so long the Overseer room spawned a Battle Ship. A BS in level III's, I think that might be a bit over the top.
Mike Yagon	Posted - 2006.03.19 12:11:00 - [38] Try out the bonus area in Angel Extravaganza. 2 BSs, loads of cruisers and only 4 tacklers that don't even tackle. It's great.
Trell Asaker	Posted - 2006.03.20 10:13:00 - [39] Mission completed. It wasn't even too hard with EM and thermal hardeners. I also changed the 2 med NOS to 250mm rails with anti-matter rounds. Actually I didn't even notice when I managed toblast the overseer =). I just checked the mission goals to refresh my memery what ti was that I have to do and noticed that I could collect the reward. Has anyone ever destroyed that battletower? It has quite massive ammount of armor... city4dev.city.fi/kuvagalleria/kuvat/54/53/92/545392.jpg[/IMG] Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Sensor Error	Posted - 2006.03.20 10:22:00 - [40] Originally by: Irishka K Nice mission, for last pocket, with Overser, i make little macro for targeting and killing swarmers with my scout drones :) I stop it after one hour ...hehe, looks like this little beasts spawn in unlimited numbers. Passive Ferrox can tank it easy. But dont take this mission on 4 level, 2nd pocket with centry guns is deadly if you have little lag. Can anyone else spot the problem in this post? RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!! ------------------------------------------ Now run along and play with your dolls...
randy andy	Posted - 2006.03.20 11:19:00 - [41] did this in my Cyclone, I jumped in saw the shields go down warped to station changed shield resistance mods for EM & THERM jumped back in and had fun
Strom Rax	Posted - 2006.03.20 12:39:00 - [42] Edited by: Strom Rax on 20/03/2006 12:41:22 Also did it in Cyclone, most amusing lvl3 mission so far. The overseer almost got me cause i got kill frenzied over all the swarmers. Hope i get this one again as soon as possible. BTW mix combat setup 3 heavies 5 220's, EM and thermal harderners and two T2 large shield extenders and a webber made the work easy. Shield relays and weapon upgrade in lows. Sorry for the alt reply.
Alvida	Posted - 2006.03.20 12:41:00 - [43] Yeah, I agree that this mission is indeed the toughest lvl3 I've tried. Did it first in a Retribution, but got downed in 3'rd room, due to negligence :(. Tried in another Retri, but found that I simply lacked range once I got webbed. Returned in a Harpy and mission went smoothly thereafter. Simply take out the stasistowers and the webbing frigs first. Rest is just a matter of time (and ammo).
Shaady Shigavros	Posted - 2006.03.20 13:03:00 - [44] well I'veread you are all able to do it in HAc but in a BS ? is it possible to run it in a Dominix armor tanking ? (I've more than 20M SP) thanks for answer
Cade Morrigan	Posted - 2006.03.20 14:41:00 - [45] Edited by: Cade Morrigan on 20/03/2006 14:43:01 Edited by: Cade Morrigan on 20/03/2006 14:41:32 Originally by: Andrymeda The worst they could do in my Cerberus was get my shields down to 97%. That was in the overseer room. Cap never went below about 45%. I could keep it up all day, but it was a against a bunch of frigs and sentries. Doing any level 3 mission in a HAC is as challenging as doing level 1 missions in a T1 Cruiser. Maybe someday we'll all be as skillful And Shaady, you should be able to do the L3 version in a Dominix, I did it in a battelcruiser (Ferox) with no warpouts.
Raest	Posted - 2006.03.20 15:43:00 - [46] this is the only lvl 3 mission where i had real problems in my retribution .. found myself chasing the long range npc inties around for a long time, and with the therm resist hole .. not fun :p then i switched to my enyo with rails and em/therm hardener, with which it was real easy. while it certainly is one of the harder lvl3s (especially in an AF), i think it's ok as it is, it's not like you instapop on warp-in with the right hardeners.
Hal Mondo	Posted - 2006.03.20 16:51:00 - [47] Edited by: Hal Mondo on 20/03/2006 16:52:43 I did this mission about 2-3 weeks ago in my raven - didnt have a problem, and had about 3.5mil skill points, half in learning! I think they have increased the difficulty of this mission recently as two of my corpmates who each have twice my SP's jointly attempted it and nearly lost a well-sorted 'Rox and a gallente AS. They warped out and had to get help off a Raven. So dont feel down if people are bragging how easy it is, it probably was when they attempted it! ----------------------------- Give man fire and he will be warm for a day. Set man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
Fanciulla	Posted - 2006.03.21 00:42:00 - [48] Shaady, With 2 EM and 3 thermal hardeners this mission is trivial in a Dominix with just (1.2mil SP). So you should have no problems at all. Bring 2 sets of light and medium EM drones and they will do all the work for you. If you want to wait for the delayed Battleship spawn in the overseer room, then use one large T2 rep. You can tank the BS, Overseer and the 8 swarmers and 4 sentry guns all at the same time. Depending on your drone skills you can kill the BS with just your drones. F
Reverend Hazlett Gallente Tok'Ra Inc	Posted - 2006.11.17 19:36:00 - [49] Alright, it's all been said: - EM / Therm tank and you're fine. - I've flown this in a Vexor and in a Dominix ( love drones ) and had no problems. - In the stash room, there is no overseer's loot, just some extra high-dollar bounties to collect. - I've blown up the tower, it's a waste of time as nothing comes out of it. -= BUT =- How long do you have to wait for this BS to spawn? I probably spent a good five min letting my drones chew up the battle tower, making total mission time ( to that point ) about 25 min, and never saw a BS. At that time though, I didn't have a silver tag to go through the stash gates - do you have to blow up the tower and then go through the stash gates? I'll try this next time to find out. My tutorial for new players ( work in progress ) [here].
Feirik	Posted - 2006.11.17 22:42:00 - [50] This one looks thought, but its quite easy if you setup your ship right and know what to do. I got VERY little skill points in ferox related skills, about 300k or so, and I can breeze through every lvl 3 missions. Good base setup, change hardners/missiles for missions and decline the hardest ones untill youre familiar with your setup. 5x heavys, 1 medium gun of choice, 1 tractor 1 invul field, 1 thermal and one EM hardner (change for different mission rats), 2x large shield extenders In lows you can balance out tank vs dps, I prefer 2x Ballistic, 1 power diag and 1 shield power relay just to get some extra damage. If your struggling with your tank you can try to change the invul field for another extender, and swap a BCU for a SPR. A few tips on this mission: in the 2nd/3rd room (The ones with groups of enemies), fly away from the closest groups right away, only attack those who aggro you straight away, dont use drones untill you are at like 30km from those you dont want to aggro. I target the destroyers first and take them down in 2 volleys then fly to safe distance to release drones for the high bounty frigs that refuses to die. Also in the respawn room, you only need to kill the overseer to finish the mission.
Saldun Zexu	Posted - 2006.11.18 00:17:00 - [51] I love this mission. its funny. I did on my prophecy no problem here. I've managed to kill almost all rats before new rat repsawns it was for fun. anyway, you don't need to kill all rats just kill overseer and you're done
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2006.11.18 00:32:00 - [52] Originally by: Cade Morrigan Edited by: Cade Morrigan on 20/03/2006 14:43:01 Edited by: Cade Morrigan on 20/03/2006 14:41:32 Originally by: Andrymeda The worst they could do in my Cerberus was get my shields down to 97%. That was in the overseer room. Cap never went below about 45%. I could keep it up all day, but it was a against a bunch of frigs and sentries. Doing any level 3 mission in a HAC is as challenging as doing level 1 missions in a T1 Cruiser. Maybe someday we'll all be as skillful And Shaady, you should be able to do the L3 version in a Dominix, I did it in a battelcruiser (Ferox) with no warpouts. I have an excuse for doing that, I am doing mission in minnie space for first time, and have to use a level 1 agent, and all my combat skills are drones. back OT use smartbombs on the buggers at the last stage. in fact, just sit there withsmartbombs running for a while. You make pretty can patterns.
Shadarle	Posted - 2006.11.18 03:43:00 - [53] "I have been trying this few times with Ferox equipped with 5 heavy launchers, 2 med. nosferatu, 2 x named med shield boosters, 2 x invulnearibility shield, low slots are for cap recharge upgrades, ballistic control and one WCS (learned to use WCS after I lost one Ferox to horde of rats with scrambler some where once...)"" OK, there are so many things wrong with your setup... I know a few people have touched on it but let me explain each thing. Hi's: You have nosferatu's on a ferox for level 3's, that's just a waste of time. Frigates/Cruisers don't yield massive amounts of cap in the first place, just don't even bother with a NOS (no less 2 NOS) on level 3's. Med's: 2 shield boosters??? What is that? Why on earth would you use two? Tanking is more about efficiency than how fast you can regen while using your cap up. Get the skills to use a medium t2 shield booster, that increases your overall tank by 25% over the best t1 you can use. This assumes you still want to active tank (Which does actually work better in a ferox, even tho most passive tank it because it's easier). Next, don't use invuln fields. I know a lot of people on the forums like to tell people to use invulns in a ferox, don't. Unless you're doing PVP you have no business using an invuln in a ferox, period. If you are active tanking they are a MASSIVE cap drain... and if you're passive tanking correctly you likely don't have enough cap to even support one. Finally, get your passive shield resistance skills up to at least level 2 for each type (won't take but a few hours) and use passive mods. If you can get those skills to level 4 your passive mods will actually yield great tanking results for an active tanking ship (the cap drain from actives has to be accounted for, which means their higher resists arn't quite as good as they seem. Low's: Pick if you're going to active or passive tank then choose either PDS (active tank) or SPR (passive tank). If you can use t2 BCS then use 1-2 BCS and 2-3 PDS/SPR. As you get better at running the missions you can use 2-3 BCS and 1-2 PDS/SPR probably. Check out my sig link if you want to see a detailed ranking of each popular ferox/raven tanking setup to see how they compare. An active tanked ferox is actually a BEAST... it's better than many Raven tanking setups amazingly. But a passive tanked ferox is still very good. ********************************************** Tank Rankings - Ships & Fittings Compared! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=386174
SonOfAGhost Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2006.11.18 04:24:00 - [54] Necroing FTL!
BigWhale Gallente	Posted - 2006.11.18 08:11:00 - [55] Thorax: 1x250mm Rails 4x150mm TechII Rails AB, two cap rechargers 1600mm plating, 2 hardeners (EM and thermal if I remember correctly) and cap power relay and TechII medium repairer. 5x Hammerheads. It was like slicing through butter with hot knife. Keep your distance, let the drones and 250mm work for you, whatever comes closer, those 150mm guns will take it. You just have to control your drones and concentrate fire on one target.
tezran	Posted - 2006.11.18 11:45:00 - [56] dont bother destroying the battlestation, crap loot, ammo DOH!
Datsun Achura Sonoma.	Posted - 2006.11.18 21:59:00 - [57] Originally by: tezran dont bother destroying the battlestation, crap loot, ammo DOH! aye I did this tonight with a Raven, spent like 30 minutes assaulting the station, when it finally blew up the loot was total crap. Just... don't.
Tricit Caldari Ganja Unlimited Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2006.11.19 03:01:00 - [58] Ferox High: 5 Arbalest Heavy Missile Launcher, 2 Tractor Beam Medium: 3 Eutectic Capacitor Recharg Array, 2 Peroxide Capacitor Battery Low: 2 Medium Armor Repair II, 1 Electromagnetic Armor Hardener, 1 Thermic Armor Hardener I did this without having to warp out.
Tricit Caldari Ganja Unlimited Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2006.11.19 03:57:00 - [59] Originally by: Tricit Ferox High: 5 Arbalest Heavy Missile Launcher, 2 Tractor Beam Medium: 3 Eutectic Capacitor Recharg Array, 2 Peroxide Capacitor Battery Low: 2 Medium Armor Repair II, 1 Electromagnetic Armor Hardener, 1 Thermic Armor Hardener I did this without having to warp out. My bad, thats 4 Eutectic Capacitor Recharge Array and 1 Peroxide Capacitor Battery

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