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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
2720
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:16:00 -
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has anyone heard of point defense?? I mean come on look at other scifi. Star wars? Star trek? any big ship has special turrents to fight and kill small fighters and other such things..... EVEN DEATH STAR.
Why not add new slot tipe along with hi/med/low: 'point def' slot that is to trade power from main guns to smaller guns so your not HELPLESS if a frigate tackles ur dread??
whos with me 
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Batelle
Komm susser Tod
930
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:20:00 -
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Its called a Heavy Energy Neutralizer.
"CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
4391
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:21:00 -
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Petrus... you seem bored (otherwise you wouldn't be trolling GD). Maybe it's time to come back down to FW and raise some hell?
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Shaden Nightwalker
Tryblium Sanguinis
3788
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:22:00 -
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I am deeply sorry for your helplessness against frigates.
In case you are serious: (intentionally left blank) |
flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels
Fidelas Constans
1729
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:22:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:has anyone heard of point defense?? I mean come on look at other scifi. Star wars? Star trek? any big ship has special turrents to fight and kill small fighters and other such things..... EVEN DEATH STAR. Why not add new slot tipe along with hi/med/low: 'point def' slot that is to trade power from main guns to smaller guns so your not HELPLESS if a frigate tackles ur dread?? whos with me
You do know you can fit smaller guns/missiles on your battleship wich can inflict damage to frigs right ?
Ah yeah but you want to be able to take them all down ... sorry in eve you have to plan ahead and make choices .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Mag's
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
15873
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:23:00 -
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Nothing is stopping you fitting small weapons to your ship.
Good luck with that.
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Ruezer
Saint's Industries
Brothers of Tangra
3
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:25:00 -
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heavy neut on a battleship stops those pesky little tackle frigs that fly ahead of their fleet.
EDIT: Drones help too |
shimiku
Black VooDoo Asassins
Cult of War
2
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:27:00 -
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and i want a carrier with 200 drones but i aint getting that either |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
4905
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:30:00 -
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If only we could fit small frigate tipe turrents into the high slots without doing any special coding...
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Jill Chastot
Oath of the Forsaken
Ragnarok.
83
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:31:00 -
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Batelle wrote:Its called a Heavy Energy Neutralizer.
And the dearest Hobgoblin II and cousin Warrior II |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
Somethin Awfull Forums
476
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:32:00 -
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It wasn't really required in EVE PvE. You could launch drones once upon a time and not have them melt in 5 seconds.
Medium Rails Rokh will face tank a level 3. A level 4 too but the med's won't get through the BS in a reasonable amount of time.
For PvP, gank or go home. When in Rome, all that stuff.
R.I.P. Vile Rat |
Xercodo
Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering
3208
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:33:00 -
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WHAT THE **** IS A TURRENT?!
IS IT SOME SORT OF P2P BULLET SHARING SYSTEM?!
The Drake is a Lie |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3554
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:37:00 -
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Quote:why do battleships and caps cannot fight frigates??
First off they can. Just not with guns.
Second, speaking of guns. Who ever heard of a capital ship with only six guns? Well, I'll tell why it is so in New Eden.
Game balance. Plain and simple. Can you imagine trying to go after some Dreadnaught when it has a hundred and twenty five guns of various sizes pointing at you? Not much fun for the attacker, is it?
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Caviar Liberta
Moira.
Villore Accords
313
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:44:00 -
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In the next exciting episode of "Why not" we discuss why we don't have area effect remote repairing. |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
930
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:45:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Petrus... you seem bored (otherwise you wouldn't be trolling GD). Maybe it's time to come back down to FW and raise some hell?
Also this.
"CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
7828
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:53:00 -
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Webs, Target Painters, Heavy Neuts, Warrior IIs.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Dave Stark
3806
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:55:00 -
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nothing stops you fitting smaller guns to bigger ships. |
Leigh Akiga
Trickle Down Economics
427
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:03:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:has anyone heard of point defense?? I mean come on look at other scifi. Star wars? Star trek? any big ship has special turrents to fight and kill small fighters and other such things..... EVEN DEATH STAR. Why not add new slot tipe along with hi/med/low: 'point def' slot that is to trade power from main guns to smaller guns so your not HELPLESS if a frigate tackles ur dread?? whos with me
Hey bro- theres this new thing that people are doing called: assigning sentry drones. Battleships and even carriers can insta-blap frigates if they drop sentry drones and assign them to a target painting T3. Try it.
Archons are the new drake and the sentry drone is its HML. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
18081
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:20:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:has anyone heard of point defense?? I mean come on look at other scifi. Star wars? Star trek?
You mean those two instances where huge structures (star destroyers, death stars, borg cubes, God) get blown to smithereens by small craft?
There's a reason the Death Star carried a complement of 9,000 TIE fighters: because X- and Y-wings were so fast they evaded the turbo lasersGǪ
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Ta'krite
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:20:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:In the next exciting episode of "Why not" we discuss why we don't have area effect remote repairing.
Indeed a interesting concept with the down side that you could end up healing the enemy. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
7828
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:27:00 -
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Tippia wrote:You mean those two instances where huge structures (star destroyers, death stars, borg cubes, God) get blown to smithereens by small craft?
There's a reason the Death Star carried a complement of 9,000 TIE fighters: because X- and Y-wings were so fast they evaded the turbo lasersGǪ
Yeah, true, but then again, there was this aesthetic choice by the architect of the death star where this small exposed thermal exhaust vent, located slightly below the main vent but no bigger than a womprat, where you can shoot a proton torpedo in it and the whole thing explodes. I know..major design flaw, but they totally could have covered it up with plywood, but would have looked terrible, and the empire had to think about resale value, plus it was guarded by towers and you had to skim along a trench to get to it, so hey, totally worth the extra thermal venting.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
18081
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:32:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Yeah, true, but then again, there was this aesthetic choice by the architect of the death star where this small exposed thermal exhaust vent, located slightly below the main vent but no bigger than a womprat, where you can shoot a proton torpedo in it and the whole thing explodes. I know..major design flaw, but they totally could have covered it up with plywood, but would have looked terrible, and the empire had to think about resale value, plus it was guarded by towers and you had to skim along a trench to get to it, so hey, totally worth the extra thermal venting.
Well, hey, it worked, remember? Pretty much everything that entered that trench got blown up.
Not even a targeting computer could hit that kind of target. I mean, it would require some kind of supernatural intervention from a dead religion to make such an impossible shot, and surely everyone has outgrown such silly superstitions.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Udoorin Kashuken
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:35:00 -
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If you're in a fleet without small ship support or fast tackle, you're doing it wrong. Learn how to play before you whine on the forums.
Also, smartbombs.
Also, drones.
Also, carriers can take out frigs just fine. 10 Hobgoblin II's will wreck any frigate. Cruisers and battlecruisers? Hammerhead the heck out of emm. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
697
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:37:00 -
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Shaden Nightwalker wrote:I am deeply sorry for your helplessness against frigates.
In case you are serious: (intentionally left blank) I think he feels battleships are helpless against his frigates, and wants a bigger challenge.
Of course if battleships had point defense turrets, they would also need larger crew complements. In real life there is balance in their size by their price and the logistics involved in running them. But real life is less balanced than EVE anyway. In real life, battleships are the I-WIN ship, and navies that don't have enough battleships lose the fight.
Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance)
And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |
Omega Sunset
Caldari Roughnecks
104
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:40:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:why do battleships and caps cannot fight frigates?? Well, that can happen when you drink too much, wake up in the morning at the toilet with barf all over the place, and you left EVE running all night afk, right?
GÇö+¬GÇö |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
697
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:47:00 -
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I'd like to see battleships able to get weapon bonuses when fitting medium or small weapons. It wouldn't be overpowered, but it might make for some interesting bait ships. Fit small autocannons to a tempest and wait till that interceptor gets close and thinks he's got you...*pew pew*BWACKSHCKKXX!!! and that's how it all goes down.
And then the gank fleet catches up with you anyway and you lose your tempest but it was worth it.
Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance)
And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |
Sky' Darkstar
Dark Star Operations.
12
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:48:00 -
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0/10
-Sky' |
Jill Chastot
Oath of the Forsaken
Ragnarok.
83
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:53:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:I'd like to see battleships able to get weapon bonuses when fitting medium or small weapons. It wouldn't be overpowered, but it might make for some interesting bait ships. Fit small autocannons to a tempest and wait till that interceptor gets close and thinks he's got you...*pew pew*BWACKSHCKKXX!!! and that's how it all goes down.
And then the gank fleet catches up with you anyway and you lose your tempest but it was worth it.
Stop thinking about solo eve, its multiplayer game and the implications on fleet warfare from this would be horrific. |
NEONOVUS
Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us
550
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:58:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Tippia wrote:You mean those two instances where huge structures (star destroyers, death stars, borg cubes, God) get blown to smithereens by small craft?
There's a reason the Death Star carried a complement of 9,000 TIE fighters: because X- and Y-wings were so fast they evaded the turbo lasersGǪ Yeah, true, but then again, there was this aesthetic choice by the architect of the death star where this small exposed thermal exhaust vent, located slightly below the main vent but no bigger than a womprat, where you can shoot a proton torpedo in it and the whole thing explodes. I know..major design flaw, but they totally could have covered it up with plywood, but would have looked terrible, and the empire had to think about resale value, plus it was guarded by towers and you had to skim along a trench to get to it, so hey, totally worth the extra thermal venting.
You do realize that was the only vent on it right?
As in they reduced everything to a single vulnerable peice to which they could only try and kill every SOB that looked at it and had a bloody wizard and his elite guard joining in to make the killing magically carnagirous?
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loco coco
44
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Posted - 2013.12.26 22:11:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Tippia wrote:You mean those two instances where huge structures (star destroyers, death stars, borg cubes, God) get blown to smithereens by small craft?
There's a reason the Death Star carried a complement of 9,000 TIE fighters: because X- and Y-wings were so fast they evaded the turbo lasersGǪ Yeah, true, but then again, there was this aesthetic choice by the architect of the death star where this small exposed thermal exhaust vent, located slightly below the main vent but no bigger than a womprat, where you can shoot a proton torpedo in it and the whole thing explodes. I know..major design flaw, but they totally could have covered it up with plywood, but would have looked terrible, and the empire had to think about resale value, plus it was guarded by towers and you had to skim along a trench to get to it, so hey, totally worth the extra thermal venting. You do realize that was the only vent on it right? As in they reduced everything to a single vulnerable peice to which they could only try and kill every SOB that looked at it and had a bloody wizard and his elite guard joining in to make the killing magically carnagirous?
Ever notice how there wasn't much exhaust coming out of that port? Or how it ever led to anything that looked like it was putting out exhaust? It was a semi-plausable idea that was put in to thwart an otherwise completely invulnerable space station so the good guys could win and look good against impossible odds. |
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