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Lord Wimbishi
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Posted - 2006.03.14 09:28:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Wimbishi on 14/03/2006 09:38:10 Ladies and gentlemen,
Again I present myself as the voice of those that wish to follow my lead and focus. We; as we stand now on the verge of a new beginning and dawn have several wishes to be addressed.
ALL standings, grudges, hate and likewise anything that had caused grief upon a dead name that is now buried, not to follow those that wish a new beginning of things.
All those in consideration as we make our plans to start fresh with a new focus that is no longer hindered by a dead alliance's past views, opinions and reckoning that earned it so much hatred towards its name alone to be permanently put to rest.
A governmental body and representative structure is being grounded and found anew with new values of being that will be the core characteristics of this new organization. The name will be put forth later. We will stand for Honor, Respect, Loyalty and honesty and wish others to expect no less from what was trying to be acheived in vain under an alliance name we had no reason to carry anymore. PA is dead. I will be in my heart always but now it is time to look towards a new light and lead my people towards a more positive and prosperous beginning.
In these respects I wish to open my hand on behalf of this new organization and welcome in diplomacy those that wish to take it and in time call us friends. Though many of us have opinions of various alliances and organizations that we had fought against, these things will NOT be a proceeding factor for new relationships no matter where and when founded.
I respect those I had personnally dealt with in honor under the flag of PA and will continue to carry such honor towards our new organization with hopes of achieve some kind of prosperity; some of which few of us have known in our time in the north.
For the time being as an obvious choice it would be; we need to rebuild and are rekindling in our own spirits what it was that kept us together in the first place under the despised banner PA had become. Brotherhood, friendship and the love of fighting alongside other people who we respected trust and found a sense of family in. It was these things friends that kept us there but now with the dead weight gone, we can truly realise our wishes if we can find some cooperation of those around us so we can reach for goals in honor we had wished for before. To be apart of something more then ourselves.
Our organization will be bearing equality, fairness and strength in many regards in times to come and expect honor to be the pinpoint of all relations. If it isn't honorable it isn't worth respect and dignity. It took some time for things like this to be seen and now able to seen clearly, we will become strong in due time so expect nothing less.
In respects to all that I have come across, shot at or befriended, I wish for you to join us in this new time and see what possiblities we can have that can improve the future of us, you, and the playing value of this game. Thank you for you time.
Respectfully Lord Wimbishi Wolven Elite Guard
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2006.03.14 09:35:00 -
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just die already
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.03.14 09:44:00 -
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seriously dude you write in on week on these forums than i ever did at uni STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy! |

StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.03.14 09:47:00 -
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also if you wanted to get rid of the hate and the ill feeling twoards you, you would probably have to disband and reform under a new name
PA on you is a big red target for alot of people and will stay so i guess STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy! |

Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2006.03.14 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: StiZum Hilidii seriously dude you write in on week on these forums than i ever did at uni
scary toght, think of how many "report" worth of letters you have from chating in eve :|
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Lord Wimbishi
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Posted - 2006.03.14 09:50:00 -
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~sighs some~ do you all even read before flaming? I put it down hmm like 4-5 times about burying PA. We are NOT PA anymore. please I ask you politely, read a little into the things I write before using ignorance as a bat. Thank you.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.03.14 09:50:00 -
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tell em about it if you add all the convos in like a month its like 50k words maybe more :| consdier this a notification though Lord Wimbishi pa will remain -10 :)
STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy! |

StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.03.14 09:51:00 -
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Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 14/03/2006 09:52:27 do you still fly under the pheonix alliance banner? yes
well then sorry mate its how it is. if its cos you cant afford to reform a new name alliance hell. well all chip in if it means pa dies for once
i hearby pledge 50mill to the buy lord wimbishi a new alliance name fund
STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy! |

black alfa
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Posted - 2006.03.14 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: StiZum Hilidii also if you wanted to get rid of the hate and the ill feeling twoards you, you would probably have to disband and reform under a new name
PA on you is a big red target for alot of people and will stay so i guess
That's exactly what he is saying.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2006.03.14 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: StiZum Hilidii do you still fly under the pheonix alliance banner?
did u like our bubble stiz? ...
d solo.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.03.14 09:53:00 -
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Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 14/03/2006 09:55:02 yes darth it got me home sharpish
gg you for killing an inty your levels are ability are starting to rise btw luckily no implants cos iron podded me last week and i havent bought replacements yet so phhhh was my expression when i realised that :) STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy! |

Lord Wimbishi
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Posted - 2006.03.14 09:57:00 -
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(notice to forum moderators)
Please clear the posts that have no bearing on this thread. I wish to keep idle chit chat to a low level and focus on the thread itself.
Thank you.
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Dawson
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Posted - 2006.03.14 10:02:00 -
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Good luck. 
Ambassador/Admiral Join BSC |

rastoman
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Posted - 2006.03.14 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: StiZum Hilidii Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 14/03/2006 09:58:59 but on the matter at hand my offer stands lord wimmbishi we shall start a fund to buy you a new name for your alliance because as pa no matter what you say it means -10 from alot of people. the list will get longer if we want it to be
like it makes a difference what name we have, you will still have us at -10 
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.03.14 10:13:00 -
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These are the twelve steps of PA Anonymous.
1. We admitted we were powerless over our enemies; that our lives had become unmanageable. 2. Came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. 3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of [5] as we understood it. 4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves. 5. Admitted to [5], to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs. 6. Were entirely ready to have [5] remove all these defects of character. 7. Humbly asked them to remove our shortcomings. 8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all. 9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others. 10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it. 11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with [5], as we understood them, praying only for knowledge of their will for us and the power to carry that out. 12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to FA, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |

StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.03.14 10:15:00 -
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dude i couldnt care less about the corps in your group its the name we want dead
you reform under a diff name and dont come near our space you can have neutral status, hell on a good day i could be pursuaded into +5 if it was worth my while, but any corp that resides under the PA banner aint getting no peace from us where eevr they go in 0.0 STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy! |

Coasterbrian
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Posted - 2006.03.14 10:28:00 -
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*yawns*
Die already, plskthxbye. ----------
Originally by: riker to thebold first post w/ your main.
Soft and Crunchy 4tw! \o/ |

Darcuese
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Posted - 2006.03.14 10:31:00 -
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Edited by: Darcuese on 14/03/2006 10:32:16
Originally by: Lord Wimbishi I put it down hmm like 4-5 times about burying PA. We are NOT PA anymore. .
This is not flame Im writing here but.....
If you baried Pa and there are no more PA, why naming this thread with "former PA"? It point that there is still some flame burning in your heart with PA sparks and forming of the new alliance will be based on PA memories....there for still living in a way.
From what i read about you you have some background and many pilots have followed you in battles. That is a good start and you dont really need mentioning PA in any way. Just start from scratches with smaller quantities of pilots.
anyway, Big alliances are past history more or less....so there are plenty you could achieve with set number of ppl.
And finaly, why not put this under recrutment section?
Anyway...all the luck....You got enough energy that good CEO should be made of
DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU?? |

Mallik Hendrake
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Posted - 2006.03.14 10:31:00 -
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Edited by: Mallik Hendrake on 14/03/2006 10:33:35 Hey Wimbishi, lemme give you some slick advice buddy. Don't let those ****ers vote. That's it.
You seem like you've got a head on your shoulders. Don't let the retards beneath you undermine your respectability by voting on everything like they know jack or squat. Democracy is for wussies.
Just tell them what to do and where to point it, and where to stick it if they give you any lip. If you guys can keep your brains in your head instead of your asses (that's your general populace) you could probably very easily make peace with Iron and G anyway, and probably a few other groups. Good luck guys. I always felt really bad that we couldn't help you guys out, but I think in the end it was the right decision. It'll make you stronger in the end to go through the burning and renewal. -------------------------------------------- "A plan is just a list of things that don't happen." -- Parker, _The Way of the Gun_
Mallik Hendrake E X O D U S [I do not speak for E X O or IRON] |

Lord Wimbishi
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Posted - 2006.03.14 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: StiZum Hilidii dude i couldnt care less about the corps in your group its the name we want dead
you reform under a diff name and dont come near our space you can have neutral status, hell on a good day i could be pursuaded into +5 if it was worth my while, but any corp that resides under the PA banner aint getting no peace from us where eevr they go in 0.0
Sure as F-E can and please to do so. I did note that we are making a new name for ourselves. So.. no reason to point it out.
And to the gentleman that remarked about the Former PA thing. There are many friends we have made towards our corporations and as such wanted them to reconise too what is going on. We are gonna take a few days to get our minds set and such and then begin to move as a new organization. PA was buried yesterday and it will rest there in the history of EVE.
I bear more loyalty to those that I have flown with and became friends too. Me in coming back to PA all I saw was my friends and trusted allies; Not the banner of PA. I loved PA yes but I will not slave over it anymore as we got a new future in mind for those willing to be apart of it.
There is quite a bit of hatred for PA. So much that it blinds people reading these latest threads of mine, saying die PA die and other rubbish when it is being made in clear distinction that PA is being buried. Casing the colors in the military is giving over one's command and authority or the disbanding of a unit. That in the very end of my last thread emphasised the very point of PA being put to rest for good.
Last night most of the corporations that had trusted leadership upon me a month ago had a talk about our new collective future. We are now getting it in order on our forums now, beginning with yet another long thread by my hand to put forth the ideas I have in mind. As we speak now we are reviewing things including the a new name to represent us. Again please keep flames down. I haven't flamed anyone outright for hatred for any reason and wish to keep things positive. Again thank you beforehand.
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Fred0
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Posted - 2006.03.14 11:02:00 -
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GL Dude  ---
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.03.14 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0 GL Dude 
seconded  --------------------------------
I am G and i am IRON - as we all are brothers in arms and times of need. |

Lord Wimbishi
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Posted - 2006.03.14 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Wimbishi on 14/03/2006 11:48:37
Originally by: Mallik Hendrake Edited by: Mallik Hendrake on 14/03/2006 10:33:35 Hey Wimbishi, lemme give you some slick advice buddy. Don't let those ****ers vote. That's it.
You seem like you've got a head on your shoulders. Don't let the retards beneath you undermine your respectability by voting on everything like they know jack or squat. Democracy is for wussies.
Just tell them what to do and where to point it, and where to stick it if they give you any lip. If you guys can keep your brains in your head instead of your asses (that's your general populace) you could probably very easily make peace with Iron and G anyway, and probably a few other groups. Good luck guys. I always felt really bad that we couldn't help you guys out, but I think in the end it was the right decision. It'll make you stronger in the end to go through the burning and renewal.
Friend,
A true leader can not lead honestly without the support of minds and bodies to move decisions into action. A good man should listen to advice and to those around him, using his own wisdom and sound judgement to make a final decision on the path of which to go. Everyone that respects that man does so out of honor and trust in him to make the best decision possible.
I would be less a man and or leader if I refuse to listen to those that bear loyalty to the leadership and personality I represent and present everyday. I have earned a lot of trust due to these values and with knowing so far I won't lead those that do follow me into ruin as we go into battle and now as of late our future now. I have not demanded nor put down anyone's idea of opinion of those that trust me and am strong and mature enough to address each and every person who has something to say even if it is negative or a thought that lacks knowledge.
It doesn't matter to me who would wish to follow the leadership team we do have assembled with me as a figurehead; reckonised and respected to make the best decisions for all those that wish to follow our example. It only matters now that we do achieve something for ourselves so we can enjoy this game once more and continue to bonds of friendship we all have enjoyed during the last few months.
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DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2006.03.14 12:07:00 -
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Dont bother coming back, itll just be the same noobs - different name.
Thx
-Havo ------------------- DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - yarr tbh "Take from the rich and put it on eBay" - zincol |

Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.14 12:19:00 -
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for the love of god stop dragging the name of PA even further along the ground. the name PA will always evoke hostility or friendship - if you want to start anew then cough up the one billion isk and try again PROPERLY.
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rastoman
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Posted - 2006.03.14 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul for the love of god stop dragging the name of PA even further along the ground. the name PA will always evoke hostility or friendship - if you want to start anew then cough up the one billion isk and try again PROPERLY.
gotta respect you for posting with the alt 
if you took the time to read the post you are flaming, you would see it pointed out numerous times that we are starting afresh with a new alliance, name and all.
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Nahual
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Posted - 2006.03.14 12:30:00 -
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Edited by: Nahual on 14/03/2006 12:30:33
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii seriously dude you write in on week on these forums than i ever did at uni
/me signed.... i cant even be bothered to read that much, 
but GL to you guys ;) ex-PA that is..or new PA or...PA should get a new name or something...dunno lack of reading is hindering my thoughts
Nahual Maximum sig image file size is 24kb --Jorauk
If i BUY or bid (and win) for something on forums, please mail me in game to collect. |

Le Cardinal
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Posted - 2006.03.14 12:31:00 -
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Edited by: Le Cardinal on 14/03/2006 12:35:01
Originally by: Sarmaul for the love of god stop dragging the name of PA even further along the ground. the name PA will always evoke hostility or friendship - if you want to start anew then cough up the one billion isk and try again PROPERLY.
Lol,do you guys even read what he is writing?
Edit: Best of luck to you and your comming alliance LW. Hope it all goes well |

pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.03.14 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: rastoman
Originally by: Sarmaul for the love of god stop dragging the name of PA even further along the ground. the name PA will always evoke hostility or friendship - if you want to start anew then cough up the one billion isk and try again PROPERLY.
gotta respect you for posting with the alt 
just fyi - he's not an alt
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.14 12:35:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 14/03/2006 12:36:57
Originally by: rastoman
Originally by: Sarmaul for the love of god stop dragging the name of PA even further along the ground. the name PA will always evoke hostility or friendship - if you want to start anew then cough up the one billion isk and try again PROPERLY.
gotta respect you for posting with the alt 
and as I've said before, if I made a 1-man corp would I be taken more seriously? This is my main character, so stfu.
Secondly, it was far to much to bother reading (the "we will form under a new name" was burried half-way through).
Thirdly, for an alliance that has been buried I am still seeing people with PA under their name
Forth, this is how you do a press release:
Quote: PA is dead. The alliance will be disbanded and a new one formed under a different name and charter. All standings will be reset, all diplomatic talks started anew.
R.I.P. PA
ok lunch time over, back to work 
edit: thanks persh 
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