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Nerf Burger Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 144	Posted - 2014.01.01 21:10:00 - [1] - Quote "Please note that the possibility of losing mission items through theft, damage, sale, or other means is considered an inherent risk in accepting work from agents"-GM After having my Wei Todaki item stolen from me in the COSMOS mission chain which rewards a cumulative 1.6 billion isk in items, I became aware that it is considered a fair game play mechanic to steal and blow up other peoples required mission items and use extortion to extract money from your victim. You can find Wei Todaki in contracts for 750 million isk, to give you some idea of they money you can make for simply scanning someone down and stealing their required mission item, or threatening to blow it up if they don't pay you off. The reason this works is that you cannot reset the COSMOS mission on downtime and have another chance at the item. If someone steals or blows up your Wei Todaki, it is gone for good. As with any mission, failure to complete results in a massive standing hit. This is a strong motivation to get your victim to pay up in addition to considering the time this person probably spent to get their standings up and capability of doing what is considered to be a difficult mission. I encourage more high sec "pvpers" to camp the Otomainen system in order to steal this valuable mission item from unsuspecting mission runners so that this valuable and balanced conflict mechanic, brilliantly designed by CCP, can see more use. This is also in the Forge region so you can conduct your business transactions while waiting for players to start this COSMOS mission if you have the proper trading skills. Stealing or threatening to blow up required mission items is a safe and easy way to earn income as a pirate. There aren't a lot of required lvl 4 mission items in contracts at the moment, so get out there and invade some mission runners. You could make a killing if you get someone who values their standings and has no alternative other than to buy from you. Don't worry high sec mission runners, there is a solution to combat this. All you have to do is hit D-scan every second you are doing the mission and be ready to warp out the moment you see combat probes, even if you have to abandon your drones to do so. Then you can wait for whoever was using combat probes to leave system before continuing your mission. Hopefully they leave before downtime. If they don't leave before downtime, well....you can try sending them messages to see if they fell asleep yet. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
KnowUsByTheDead New Eden Federation Of Justice 875	Posted - 2014.01.01 21:12:00 - [2] - Quote Lulz. Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á
ElQuirko Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo 3156	Posted - 2014.01.01 21:13:00 - [3] - Quote Nerf Burger wrote: After having my Wei Todaki item stolen from me in the COSMOS mission chain which rewards a cumulative 1.6 billion isk in item F*** me, I need to run mission chains. Dodixie > Hek
Schmata Bastanold The brothers inc Brothers Of The Dark Sun 1216	Posted - 2014.01.01 21:14:00 - [4] - Quote TLDR: If you cannot defend it, you don't deserve it. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold
Paranoid Loyd University of Caille Gallente Federation 204	Posted - 2014.01.01 21:14:00 - [5] - Quote Welcome to eve
Mr. Orange Band of Freelancers 429	Posted - 2014.01.01 21:18:00 - [6] - Quote Let me guess, you ran across a guy named Princess .... He is ALWAYS there, all day, everyday. He has 3 chars that begin with "Princess ..." 1 is a covops prober, 2nd is a Gila and the 3rd he uses to sell Wei Todaki when people don't pay his ransoms. Btw, all 3 chars are on 1 account, as he can be seen relogging while in action. I was in local once when he jacked some guy's mission, the tears were delicious to watch!
Vaju Enki Secular Wisdom 1198	Posted - 2014.01.01 21:20:00 - [7] - Quote Good tears are always welcomed. The Tears Must Flow
Nerf Burger Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 145	Posted - 2014.01.01 21:29:00 - [8] - Quote Mr. Orange wrote: Let me guess, you ran across a guy named Princess .... He is ALWAYS there, all day, everyday. He has 3 chars that begin with "Princess ..." 1 is a covops prober, 2nd is a Gila and the 3rd he uses to sell Wei Todaki when people don't pay his ransoms. Btw, all 3 chars are on 1 account, as he can be seen relogging while in action. I was in local once when he jacked some guy's mission, the tears were delicious to watch! no, he has alts named princess too. I've seen them logged in at same time. I might say something about how I love tears too but i'm not 12 anymore. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
Eran Mintor Esoteric Philosophy 314	Posted - 2014.01.01 21:34:00 - [9] - Quote Nerf Burger wrote: ...Don't worry high sec mission runners, there is a solution to combat this. All you have to do is hit D-scan every second you are doing the mission and be ready to warp out the moment you see combat probes, even if you have to abandon your drones to do so. Drones can be found with probes too so I guess you're just ******!
Mr. Orange Band of Freelancers 429	Posted - 2014.01.01 21:47:00 - [10] - Quote Nerf Burger wrote: Mr. Orange wrote: Let me guess, you ran across a guy named Princess .... He is ALWAYS there, all day, everyday. He has 3 chars that begin with "Princess ..." 1 is a covops prober, 2nd is a Gila and the 3rd he uses to sell Wei Todaki when people don't pay his ransoms. Btw, all 3 chars are on 1 account, as he can be seen relogging while in action. I was in local once when he jacked some guy's mission, the tears were delicious to watch! no, he has alts named princess too. I've seen them logged in at same time. I might say something about how I love tears too but i'm not 12 anymore. Don't be mad, you didn't deserve the Mitchi HW implant anyway.
Nerf Burger Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 146	Posted - 2014.01.01 21:54:00 - [11] - Quote Mr. Orange wrote: Nerf Burger wrote: Mr. Orange wrote: Let me guess, you ran across a guy named Princess .... He is ALWAYS there, all day, everyday. He has 3 chars that begin with "Princess ..." 1 is a covops prober, 2nd is a Gila and the 3rd he uses to sell Wei Todaki when people don't pay his ransoms. Btw, all 3 chars are on 1 account, as he can be seen relogging while in action. I was in local once when he jacked some guy's mission, the tears were delicious to watch! no, he has alts named princess too. I've seen them logged in at same time. I might say something about how I love tears too but i'm not 12 anymore. Don't be mad, you didn't deserve the Mitchi HW implant anyway. Not mad, just saying. I ended up getting my Mitchi without having to pay anything, so I'm happy with the result. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
Pipa Porto 1466	Posted - 2014.01.01 23:04:00 - [12] - Quote Simple way to protect yourself from this problem: Steal someone else's mission item before accepting the mission. That way, if yours gets stolen, no big deal. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone -RubyPorto
Nerf Burger Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 146	Posted - 2014.01.01 23:05:00 - [13] - Quote Pipa Porto wrote: Simple way to protect yourself from this problem: Steal someone else's mission item before accepting the mission. That way, if yours gets stolen, no big deal. ah, of course! pipa portos answer is always the most simple and reasonable one. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
Katran Luftschreck Stillwater Corporation 2107	Posted - 2014.01.02 02:47:00 - [14] - Quote Mr. Orange wrote: Let me guess, you ran across a guy named Princess .... He is ALWAYS there, all day, everyday. He has 3 chars that begin with "Princess ..." 1 is a covops prober, 2nd is a Gila and the 3rd he uses to sell Wei Todaki when people don't pay his ransoms. Btw, all 3 chars are on 1 account, as he can be seen relogging while in action. I was in local once when he jacked some guy's mission, the tears were delicious to watch! A lone Gila with a constant suspect flag, being flown by a guy splitting his attention three different ways? Egads, this guy is just begging to get ganked.... and everyone knows that douchebag tears are the best tears. Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif
Pipa Porto 1468	Posted - 2014.01.02 03:55:00 - [15] - Quote Nerf Burger wrote: Pipa Porto wrote: Simple way to protect yourself from this problem: Steal someone else's mission item before accepting the mission. That way, if yours gets stolen, no big deal. ah, of course! pipa portos solution is always the most simple and reasonable one. Another thread blessed. You can, of course, return it to whomever you stole it from if it turns out you didn't need a spare. What, if anything, you charge for its return is, naturally, entirely up to you. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone -RubyPorto
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2247	Posted - 2014.01.02 04:19:00 - [16] - Quote Nerf Burger wrote: i'm not 12 anymore. Yet you made this thread. Oh god.
Nerf Burger Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 148	Posted - 2014.01.02 05:40:00 - [17] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: Nerf Burger wrote: i'm not 12 anymore. Yet you made this thread. were you going to say something about tears? HAHA! You were weren't you? Don't be so angry that I took the wind out of your sails. We just need Tippia and baltec01 in here so the circle of no-life can be complete. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 2247	Posted - 2014.01.02 06:35:00 - [18] - Quote No, I'm saying you're a brat. Oh god.
Chris Winter Zephyr Corp V.A.S.T. 332	Posted - 2014.01.02 08:46:00 - [19] - Quote Katran Luftschreck wrote: Mr. Orange wrote: Let me guess, you ran across a guy named Princess .... He is ALWAYS there, all day, everyday. He has 3 chars that begin with "Princess ..." 1 is a covops prober, 2nd is a Gila and the 3rd he uses to sell Wei Todaki when people don't pay his ransoms. Btw, all 3 chars are on 1 account, as he can be seen relogging while in action. I was in local once when he jacked some guy's mission, the tears were delicious to watch! A lone Gila with a constant suspect flag, being flown by a guy splitting his attention three different ways? Egads, this guy is just begging to get ganked.... and everyone knows that douchebag tears are the best tears. If he kills the guy he doesn't have to go suspect to keep you from.getting it, I think...
Job Valador Sovereign Colonies Armed Forces 524	Posted - 2014.01.02 08:59:00 - [20] - Quote Who ever this Princess guy is, I want to give him a medal. "The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement."
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 8045	Posted - 2014.01.02 09:32:00 - [21] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: Nerf Burger wrote: i'm not 12 anymore. Yet you made this thread. He was when he made it. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed
Tuttomenui II Aliastra Gallente Federation 174	Posted - 2014.01.02 10:18:00 - [22] - Quote In a system near Deltole there is a hive queen drone that will give you a mission and this mission puts a beacon in the overview for all to see and warp to. I stole some Russians drop who was running it with an alt in a Proteus, He shot the wreck forgetting that the Proteus pilot was not the mission runner, and he got blapped by concord. My only regret was that I didn't think to shoot him to. Yeah a lot of cosmos missions its best to get the items you need for them before accepting.
Mythrandier Spacelane Salvage 296	Posted - 2014.01.02 10:24:00 - [23] - Quote Nerf Burger wrote: Not mad, just saying. Ok, hands up who believes this... Anyone? Anyone at all? Oh well. "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." --á D. Adams.
Zappity Kurved Space 730	Posted - 2014.01.02 12:26:00 - [24] - Quote Just hypothetically, if someone was considering repairing their sec status to go play in highsec for a while, how would they know which missions had this "Wei Todaki" whatsit? Or do you just probe them all down and check them out? Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
Carnaby Wakefield Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2014.01.02 12:30:00 - [25] - Quote Stealing Wei Todaki from cosmos mission runners is a lame tactic tbh, the deadspace spawn to get to her is one of the hardest in all the cosmos missions and the fact some **** in a covert ops or other crappy ship can just fly in and nab the mission runners key loot without any effort on there part kinda proves that at times Eve's cut throat culture might go abit to far. lets be honest the mission runner has no real chance of stopping this happening to them and can either pay the ransom, buy the item from the market or shoot the looter and get concorded, at the end of the day all the looter is risking is a criminal flag and has to put no work into what he is doing as the mission runner is doing all the work.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 13431	Posted - 2014.01.02 12:38:00 - [26] - Quote Nerf Burger wrote: "Please note that the possibility of losing mission items through theft, damage, sale, or other means is considered an inherent risk in accepting work from agents"-GM I realise that this is new and shocking to you, but this has been common knowledge since forever. Still, congratulations on expanding your understanding of the game. 1 Kings 12:11
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 13431	Posted - 2014.01.02 12:39:00 - [27] - Quote Carnaby Wakefield wrote: Stealing Wei Todaki from cosmos mission runners is a lame tactic tbh, the deadspace spawn to get to her is one of the hardest in all the cosmos missions and the fact some **** in a covert ops or other crappy ship can just fly in and nab the mission runners key loot without any effort on there part kinda proves that at times Eve's cut throat culture might go abit to far. lets be honest the mission runner has no real chance of stopping this happening to them and can either pay the ransom, buy the item from the market or shoot the looter and get concorded, at the end of the day all the looter is risking is a criminal flag and has to put no work into what he is doing as the mission runner is doing all the work. I hear CCP send a guy round to a mission runners house to kick im square inna nuts unless he runs solo at all times. 1 Kings 12:11
Carnaby Wakefield Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2014.01.02 12:41:00 - [28] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Carnaby Wakefield wrote: Stealing Wei Todaki from cosmos mission runners is a lame tactic tbh, the deadspace spawn to get to her is one of the hardest in all the cosmos missions and the fact some **** in a covert ops or other crappy ship can just fly in and nab the mission runners key loot without any effort on there part kinda proves that at times Eve's cut throat culture might go abit to far. lets be honest the mission runner has no real chance of stopping this happening to them and can either pay the ransom, buy the item from the market or shoot the looter and get concorded, at the end of the day all the looter is risking is a criminal flag and has to put no work into what he is doing as the mission runner is doing all the work. I hear CCP send a guy round to a mission runners house to kick im square inna nuts unless he runs solo at all times. Constructive, I can see why your on the CSM
Job Valador Sovereign Colonies Armed Forces 525	Posted - 2014.01.02 12:56:00 - [29] - Quote Carnaby Wakefield wrote: Malcanis wrote: Carnaby Wakefield wrote: Stealing Wei Todaki from cosmos mission runners is a lame tactic tbh, the deadspace spawn to get to her is one of the hardest in all the cosmos missions and the fact some **** in a covert ops or other crappy ship can just fly in and nab the mission runners key loot without any effort on there part kinda proves that at times Eve's cut throat culture might go abit to far. lets be honest the mission runner has no real chance of stopping this happening to them and can either pay the ransom, buy the item from the market or shoot the looter and get concorded, at the end of the day all the looter is risking is a criminal flag and has to put no work into what he is doing as the mission runner is doing all the work. I hear CCP send a guy round to a mission runners house to kick im square inna nuts unless he runs solo at all times. Constructive, I can see why your on the CSM Best CSM ever. would vote for again. "The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement."
Slave A00073078 Northern Raven Reconnaissance Syndicate 19	Posted - 2014.01.02 13:02:00 - [30] - Quote There isn't an NPC related thing in eve that is difficult so I don't buy that story.

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