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Absinth Minded
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Posted - 2006.03.16 06:00:00 -
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Hey guys whats up? This is my first post on the forums. I just got the game a few days ago and love it. I am just on a trial account, only until my tax returns come out though. Anyway I wanted to start a fruitful discussion on the potential energy need to destroy a planet. I am no energy or space expert so I would love your guys' thoughts. :)
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2006.03.16 06:03:00 -
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Developers can do it with the "Delete" key, but other than that, not so much. 
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Samirol
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Posted - 2006.03.16 06:04:00 -
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this probably belongs in Out of Pod Experience, 20 isk on Dark Shikari knowing the answer 
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David Corbett
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Posted - 2006.03.16 06:16:00 -
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Edited by: David Corbett on 16/03/2006 06:17:28
Edited by: David Corbett on 16/03/2006 06:16:50
Depends on the size and composition of the planet, of course. It's a really large number... something like 1e28 joules for an Earthlike planet (111.11 gigatonnes of matter and antimatter colliding together, for example.)
Oh, and note that that's in actual mass, not in tonnes of TNT.
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Itono
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Posted - 2006.03.16 06:24:00 -
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do you have a particular planet in mind?
:)
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2006.03.16 06:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Itono
do you have a particular planet in mind?
:)
Uranus  
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Brutor Shaun
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Posted - 2006.03.16 06:50:00 -
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And roughly how much energy would it take to destroy UrAnus?
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oDDiTy V2
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Posted - 2006.03.16 06:51:00 -
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Originally by: Brutor Shaun
And roughly how much energy would it take to destroy UrAnus?
However many calories there are in a few taco's from Taco Bell, yeah?
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JamesTalon
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Posted - 2006.03.16 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: oDDiTy V2
Originally by: Brutor Shaun
And roughly how much energy would it take to destroy UrAnus?
However many calories there are in a few taco's from Taco Bell, yeah?
Nah, just eat at McDonalds. That'll kill it good! 
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Culmen
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Posted - 2006.03.16 07:50:00 -
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Also you might want to define what you mean by "destoy"
do you mean exstinguish all life?
render uninhabitable?
Fracture crust?
fragment into asteriod belt?
Turn all matter into fine dust?
turn all matter into vapor?
convert all mass into energy?
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BlackDragonShadow
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Posted - 2006.03.16 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: Culmen
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haha wow that's disturbing. And probably a good sized chunk of antimatter could do it BUT antimatter is extreamly hard to come by. (Fact a teaspoon of Antimatter can produce enough energy to problem a ship to mars. The probably though is how to store the stuff.)
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F'nog
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Posted - 2006.03.16 08:30:00 -
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All you need is the Correct Titan(tm) and you can do it.
Originally by: Bl4zer
But, cmon, this is the Eve forums, we don't let facts get in the way of pointless speculation.
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Culmen
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Posted - 2006.03.16 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: BlackDragonShadow
Originally by: Culmen
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haha wow that's disturbing.
actually stole it from here
it goes on
just couldent fit the whole thing plus quotes into my sig
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Asane
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Posted - 2006.03.16 08:53:00 -
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Hmm, destroy a planet?
I'd have to say one male and one female human being.
Add some time and it's solved, planet destroyed.
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Culmen
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Posted - 2006.03.16 09:05:00 -
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Originally by: Asane
Hmm, destroy a planet?
I'd have to say one male and one female human being.
Add some time and it's solved, planet destroyed.
you do realize that from just one breeding pair, you are not going to have enough genetic diversity for a sustainable human population
however if that one male and female are piloting a titan.... well thats a diferent story
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Asane
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Posted - 2006.03.16 09:07:00 -
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Hey, the souther parts of the USA is still breeding and breathing, I really don't think there's gonna be any problem
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GouldFish
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Posted - 2006.03.16 09:36:00 -
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All you need is a few dozzen nukes and the planet is toast!
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Asane
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Posted - 2006.03.16 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: GouldFish
All you need is a few dozzen nukes and the planet is toast!
You do know that that isn't gonna help much at all, right?
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Lluthiunne Drako
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Posted - 2006.03.16 10:07:00 -
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2.4E32 joules
thats the best i can do
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.03.16 10:10:00 -
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The total energy required is not as important as the frequency at which it is delivered.
Destroying a planet is all about dying in harmony.
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Nuri Aderynn
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Posted - 2006.03.16 10:10:00 -
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Edited by: Nuri Aderynn on 16/03/2006 10:10:33
http://qntm.org/destroy
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Constantine Arcanum
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Posted - 2006.03.16 10:25:00 -
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http://qntm.org/destroy
Everything you need to know about completely destroying the world, and everything in/on it.
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Constantine Arcanum
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Posted - 2006.03.16 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nuri Aderynn
Edited by: Nuri Aderynn on 16/03/2006 10:10:33
http://qntm.org/destroy
Didn't notice you posted that 
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.03.16 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nuri Aderynn
Edited by: Nuri Aderynn on 16/03/2006 10:10:33
http://qntm.org/destroy
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Now run along and play with your dolls...
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Constantine Arcanum
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Posted - 2006.03.16 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: GouldFish
All you need is a few dozzen nukes and the planet is toast!
That would NEVER work. EVER.
Maybe it would destroy all life... not the planet.
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Fanden
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Posted - 2006.03.16 10:37:00 -
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Ye mount giant rockets on one end o'tha planet and shoot it inta tha' sun, crispy.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.16 10:38:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 16/03/2006 10:41:53
Originally by: Samirol
this probably belongs in Out of Pod Experience, 20 isk on Dark Shikari knowing the answer
You lost your 20 ISK. Because I don't know the answer.
However I can look it up.
If you mean by destroy a planet, all you need to know is the gravitational binding energy.
And using google:
((3 / 5) * (mass of Earth^2) * G) / radius of Earth = 2.24047739 + 10^32 joules
To be exact, this is about the equivalent of 535,486,949,000,000 100-megaton hydrogen bombs.
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Lluthiunne Drako
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:02:00 -
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so i was right ^
;)
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Waut
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:06:00 -
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Eve doesn't even has the firepower to blow up an asteroid, let alone a whole planet 
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Gah'khaz
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:13:00 -
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Edited by: Gah''khaz on 16/03/2006 11:13:48
it's simple enough, deploy a team a macrominers and the planet will be gone within a week
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Copine Callmeknau
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:21:00 -
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Linkage
Originally by: IEDAB
Current Earth-Destruction Status (CEDS)
EARTH-DESTRUCTION ALERT LEVEL: GREEN
A "Green" Earth-Destruction Alert Level (EDA Level) indicates that the Earth has not been destroyed. This is the default EDA Level in peacetime. In the event of the Earth being destroyed, the EDA Level will change to "Red".
I lolled
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I seem to be the only one fit to command
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:24:00 -
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not to worry, i just figured it out :)
no skills, just luck.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: Usul Faust on 16/03/2006 11:24:29
edited
no skills, just luck.
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Asane
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:27:00 -
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In an EVE perspecitve we can, however assume this to be true:
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Virgo I'Platonicus
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:31:00 -
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It's actually quite simple.
You build 10 satelites and fit them with ion drives (which are no longer science fiction today). Also equip them with a bit of CPU and sensors and give them mass analysis capability (no new science here today...)
Send them to Oort cloud way behind Pluto. Find some nice jiucy rocks n km in radius where n >15.
LEt's say you found 2 rocks, 2 satellites got destroyed while getting to the spot so you have 4 satellites per rock. Well simply land, dig in, and use the ion thrusters to stabilize the rotational movement and then slightly alter the orbit sunward.
With some math (again nothing "not-doable") You can hit any planet you wish.
Oh any you must have a couple of hundred years at your disposal since ion thrust takes ages to come to any real speed. But it DOES come to real speed in due time.
V.
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Asane
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:33:00 -
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Gotta get the resources to build drivers with a size big enough to actually move a rock That big
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Virgo I'Platonicus
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:37:00 -
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Nope not really a problem. You need quite normal sized thruster. As i said - you need a couple of hundred years to do it. No matter what the thruster size, the rock will move in the opposite direction of the thrust once you start it up.
The question is only the time.
V.
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Lluthiunne Drako
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:38:00 -
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wouldnt work - assuming you want the whole planet destroyed you would need a substantially larger object to impact the earth than a mere asteroid.
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Virgo I'Platonicus
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:49:00 -
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Yes well that's when the question of "What do you mean by "destroy"?" comes into equation. To me the wipe out of all life forms on a snigle rock, third from the sun, is destruction enough. To some others who've seen the orginial star wars : a new hope and how D. Vader and Grand moff Tarkin destroy Alderaan is how a TRUE destruction should take place. But tbh that's even easier.
Put a satellite at the fifth lagrange point at Eart - Sun distance. (yes there are five lagrange points (4 n 5 are same, just opposite directions.)). That satellite is like VERY big, well... ok not SO big. Let's say it has an ion drive which helps negate an effect that i will talk about...
Ok this sattelie has like a very big mirror screen (if round - 50 km in radius? - didnt make a calc but the energy flux amount must be staggering) which only reflects...well ok which MOSTLY reflects infrared waves. The ion thrust engates the photonic flux which tries to push the satellite away from the sun.
Now turn the rays to earth, aim for one spot only( well u cant since earth is rotating, but u can cover most of the earths surface in a few days). Well soon enough the atmosphere will be like very hot. Have some luck and you might have too much CO2 in the air making the Earth another Venus. If you dont know what's wrong with Venus, go check it up on Wikipedia.
Ok for some ppl this ain't destruction enough.
Give me a few moments to think up how to make the sun come grab the earth....
V.
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Reacz
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: Reacz on 16/03/2006 11:51:04
We got DeathStar? :P
*Starts singing* ;)
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Virgo I'Platonicus
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:55:00 -
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Got it. The idea is so simple it's actually ridiculous
Go and be a scinetist. Think of a way to make all ppl go hibernate for about 3 bill years (with no ill effects so that when the civilization wakes up it can savour my idea to the fullest)
Anyway put all humans to rest for 3 bill years.
The dolphins will be long gone by the time we wake up, saying thanks for all the fish , feeling sorry for the poor sods (us), Even elephants will become the dominant race by then and will have gotten lost among the stars when we wake up.
Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth and even myth is long forgotten by the time the ages that gave it birth comes again.
The age of man.
Wind flew across.... err ok not so much of "The wheel of time".
Let's say we wake up. And what do we see?
A moronic F****** big sun right on top of us. Earth being suddenly very hot, very molten. Air is scarce, no water and well we woke up in hell. Without dying. We roxor.
In another few seconds ... or years the sun comes swallow the earth. No ****ting fellas.
Ok. Who's gonna think of how to make ppl go hybernate (for 3 bil years)?
V.
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Angry Sheep
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:56:00 -
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Quote:
And roughly how much energy would it take to destroy UrAnus?
one should ask - do you put the energy directly into UrAnus or just slap it about a bit, you know - drop something on UrAnus
one of those days
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Virgo I'Platonicus
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:59:00 -
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Edited by: Virgo I''Platonicus on 16/03/2006 11:59:30
And what's this thing you guys have against uranus? It's a very pretty planet you know? all blue, nice and sexeh. I'd start with Pluto myself. It's nice, small, and so far out that noone but a few astronomers would notice it had gone missing. And those can be dealt with 
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Asane
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Posted - 2006.03.16 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Virgo I'Platonicus
Edited by: Virgo I''Platonicus on 16/03/2006 11:59:30
And what's this thing you guys have against uranus? It's a very pretty planet you know? all blue, nice and sexeh. I'd start with Pluto myself. It's nice, small, and so far out that noone but a few astronomers would notice it had gone missing. And those can be dealt with
V:
Not quite the right planet tbh
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Laqum
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Posted - 2006.03.16 12:01:00 -
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*click* - Not that constructive don't you think ;)
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