Oh wait, you were seriousGǪ?

:D :D

Anyway, a somehow serious response on them would be cool. Even if it's just a "there are balancing problems, so we scrapped them as a whole".

Question -

Using PVE as a baseline, since no two PVP situations are the same, if missiles don't miss, do the same damage every time they hit a target able to absorb more than one volley into a particular defensive belt (shields, armor, or hull), and have such consistency that pilots can know precisely how many volleys it will take to destroy a particular target,

Why do you think they need another enhancement module?

Question -

Using PVE as a baseline, since no two PVP situations are the same, if missiles don't miss, do the same damage every time they hit a target able to absorb more than one volley into a particular defensive belt (shields, armor, or hull), and have such consistency that pilots can know precisely how many volleys it will take to destroy a particular target,

Why do you think they need another enhancement module?

Adding precision enhancing modules for missiles is still something we are interested in pursuing and putting thought into, but it's not at the "all we need to push the button" point. There are some balance and implementation issues that make the process a bit complicated.

So I can't promise anything except that we like the idea and are continuing to put thought into how we could make it a reality.

Adding precision enhancing modules for missiles is still something we are interested in pursuing and putting thought into, but it's not at the "all we need to push the button" point. There are some balance and implementation issues that make the process a bit complicated.

So I can't promise anything except that we like the idea and are continuing to put thought into how we could make it a reality.

Heavy missile launchers and the new rapid light missile launchers have all but disappeared from the PvP landscape. I'm just curious at what point a weapon system becomes so marginalized that it necessitates a serious review? Damage application for heavy missiles, torpedoes and the new rapid launchers need serious re-examination.

This doesn't necessarily have to involve the introduction of a ballistic enhancer or ballistic computer, but the reality is that target painters are largely ineffective, utilizing rigs places Caldari ships at an extreme disadvantage with respect to tank and resorting to stasis webs completely defeats any advantage of light or heavy missiles.

Many of us have been repeatedly been asking for an update (any update!) on where things are at. We're not exactly thrilled at the prospect of being forced to reluctantly retrain for another race and weapon system.

What will it take to get a meaningful dialog going about this? I think after suffering almost a year of the heavy missile nerf (while rails, drones and everything else have been buffed) and the unexpected rapid light missile changes - we're owed at least that.

Fozzie, since you've been posting metrics on the usage of the revamped marauders, could you do an updated post on RLML usage in PvE and PVP now that players have had time to adjust to the changes? Based on pre- and post-nerf sales figures for The Forge (see here for details), it seems that their total usage has declined by around 40% - is that borne out by your metrics?

That lands in the same range as our usage metrics. Obviously we're taking all of this into account when we plan the next steps, but I'm not going to go into more detail until Rise is back from vacation and the whole balance team can sync up in person.

That lands in the same range as our usage metrics. Obviously we're taking all of this into account when we plan the next steps, but I'm not going to go into more detail until Rise is back from vacation and the whole balance team can sync up in person.

the reality is that target painters are largely ineffective, utilizing rigs places Caldari ships at an extreme disadvantage with respect to tank and resorting to stasis webs completely defeats any advantage of light or heavy missiles.

I'd also like to put in a reminder that Rise did promise a look at heavy/HAM's in the near future. Also, can something be done about the pitiful range on precisions?

I've put 6.6 mil in to missile skills, if they **** the only good ones left (cruise and HAM) i'll unsub. Don't marginalise me without doing any testing first.

But they also have amazing consistency. At almost any range. Unlike turrets.

"Turrets hit small, stationary targets for full damage." Not true. Even with a stationary target, TURRETS MISS. They also have something that goes by the rubric of 'Hit Quality', which determines what percentage of a successful hit it actually applied.

Adding precision enhancing modules for missiles is still something we are interested in pursuing and putting thought into, but it's not at the "all we need to push the button" point. There are some balance and implementation issues that make the process a bit complicated.

So I can't promise anything except that we like the idea and are continuing to put thought into how we could make it a reality.

Time to release some more controversial mobile structures while we continue to let missile players twist in the windGǪ Is 26% HML damage application vs. AB cruisers supposed to be a joke? (39% with three rigors and 54% with 2 target painters) Fozzie killeth (HML), then Rise taketh away (RLML)...