Ok, so being my adventurous self I decided it was high time to get my ass out of highsec and learn about null. I figured a decent way to start with this would be to set up some ninja PI.

So, I get my crane, and fit it all nice and sexy cloaky like, and load up a bunch of command centers. I set a course for the Outer Ring (all NPC nullsec all the way), autopilot to the edge of highsec, and then start my trip through the deep dark.

I get 2 jumps in. I'm cloaked. I warp to 0 on the next gate. I somehow end up being pulled OFF the gate and into a bubble, with a bunch of litter that decloaks me. Locked and killed within 15 seconds.

So what did I do wrong? How is it even possible to avoid this? Manually warping to 0 in a cloaked ship, and there was absolutely NOTHING I could do to avoid this. This, obviously, is why anyone who doesn't have a massive corp to back them up doesn't like nullsec. It's impossible to go anywhere without getting shitkicked, even if you do everything right.

It seemed, from the little I saw, that nearly every gate had a bubble on it. So how does anyone get anywhere?

Ok, so being my adventurous self I decided it was high time to get my ass out of highsec and learn about null. I figured a decent way to start with this would be to set up some ninja PI.

So, I get my crane, and fit it all nice and sexy cloaky like, and load up a bunch of command centers. I set a course for the Outer Ring (all NPC nullsec all the way), autopilot to the edge of highsec, and then start my trip through the deep dark.

I get 2 jumps in. I'm cloaked. I warp to 0 on the next gate. I somehow end up being pulled OFF the gate and into a bubble, with a bunch of litter that decloaks me. Locked and killed within 15 seconds.

So what did I do wrong? How is it even possible to avoid this? Manually warping to 0 in a cloaked ship, and there was absolutely NOTHING I could do to avoid this. This, obviously, is why anyone who doesn't have a massive corp to back them up doesn't like nullsec. It's impossible to go anywhere without getting shitkicked, even if you do everything right.

It seemed, from the little I saw, that nearly every gate had a bubble on it. So how does anyone get anywhere?

Don't warp to 0 on a gate with others in system, warp to a nearby celestial first, scan the gate for bubbles/ships, then warp from the celestial to the gate. Whats better is to scout the pipe with say an inty and set up on and off grid bookmarks off all the gates to warp to.
Bubbles won't pull you in unless your warping in a direct line with them, if you warp from a different angle you won't be pulled in. (basicly the one you got pulled into was in a direct line between the gate you warped from and that gate and pulled you in)

Ok, so being my adventurous self I decided it was high time to get my ass out of highsec and learn about null. I figured a decent way to start with this would be to set up some ninja PI.

So, I get my crane, and fit it all nice and sexy cloaky like, and load up a bunch of command centers. I set a course for the Outer Ring (all NPC nullsec all the way), autopilot to the edge of highsec, and then start my trip through the deep dark.

I get 2 jumps in. I'm cloaked. I warp to 0 on the next gate. I somehow end up being pulled OFF the gate and into a bubble, with a bunch of litter that decloaks me. Locked and killed within 15 seconds.

So what did I do wrong? How is it even possible to avoid this? Manually warping to 0 in a cloaked ship, and there was absolutely NOTHING I could do to avoid this. This, obviously, is why anyone who doesn't have a massive corp to back them up doesn't like nullsec. It's impossible to go anywhere without getting shitkicked, even if you do everything right.

It seemed, from the little I saw, that nearly every gate had a bubble on it. So how does anyone get anywhere?

Ok, so being my adventurous self I decided it was high time to get my ass out of highsec and learn about null. I figured a decent way to start with this would be to set up some ninja PI.

So, I get my crane, and fit it all nice and sexy cloaky like, and load up a bunch of command centers. I set a course for the Outer Ring (all NPC nullsec all the way), autopilot to the edge of highsec, and then start my trip through the deep dark.

I get 2 jumps in. I'm cloaked. I warp to 0 on the next gate. I somehow end up being pulled OFF the gate and into a bubble, with a bunch of litter that decloaks me. Locked and killed within 15 seconds.

So what did I do wrong? How is it even possible to avoid this? Manually warping to 0 in a cloaked ship, and there was absolutely NOTHING I could do to avoid this. This, obviously, is why anyone who doesn't have a massive corp to back them up doesn't like nullsec. It's impossible to go anywhere without getting shitkicked, even if you do everything right.

It seemed, from the little I saw, that nearly every gate had a bubble on it. So how does anyone get anywhere?

It seemed, from the little I saw, that nearly every gate had a bubble on it. So how does anyone get anywhere?

Ok, so being my adventurous self I decided it was high time to get my ass out of highsec and learn about null. I figured a decent way to start with this would be to set up some ninja PI.

So, I get my crane, and fit it all nice and sexy cloaky like, and load up a bunch of command centers. I set a course for the Outer Ring (all NPC nullsec all the way), autopilot to the edge of highsec, and then start my trip through the deep dark.

I get 2 jumps in. I'm cloaked. I warp to 0 on the next gate. I somehow end up being pulled OFF the gate and into a bubble, with a bunch of litter that decloaks me. Locked and killed within 15 seconds.

So what did I do wrong? How is it even possible to avoid this? Manually warping to 0 in a cloaked ship, and there was absolutely NOTHING I could do to avoid this. This, obviously, is why anyone who doesn't have a massive corp to back them up doesn't like nullsec. It's impossible to go anywhere without getting shitkicked, even if you do everything right.

It seemed, from the little I saw, that nearly every gate had a bubble on it. So how does anyone get anywhere?

*looks at the rest of thread posters and shakes his head.......... *

"Survival of the non dumb."

Translation of OP:

"MY SHIP GOT BLOWN UP AND I'M MAD!!!! I HATE 0.0!!!!!!!"

and as far as your approach to "joining null sec." perhaps you should actrually join..............

So what did I do wrong? How is it even possible to avoid this? Manually warping to 0 in a cloaked ship, and there was absolutely NOTHING I could do to avoid this. This, obviously, is why

There should be a wiki article on this sh!t.

So, I get my crane,

Always warp directly from gate to gate in 0.0. We who live in 0.0 are generally friendly, helpful chaps, and nobody out in 0.0 wants to hurt anyone else. I'm sure you just ran into some bad seeds. I know if it were me, I'd just inform you in local that HA HA, MY BUBBLE CAUGHT YOU, and then use it as a teachable moment for your enlightenment.

This guy seems legit.

I say we all send him our ISK so he can do the right thing and invest it in something sensible and then give us back 500% of what we invested.

and BTW - You cant do PI in Null Sec unless you are a member of the Sov holding alliance.

Outer Ring, NPC 0.0, reading comprehension, wolollolololololololol, ect.

There should be a wiki article on this sh!t.

Ok, so being my adventurous self I decided it was high time to get my ass out of highsec and learn about null. I figured a decent way to start with this would be to set up some ninja PI.

So, I get my crane, and fit it all nice and sexy cloaky like, and load up a bunch of command centers. I set a course for the Outer Ring (all NPC nullsec all the way), autopilot to the edge of highsec, and then start my trip through the deep dark.

I get 2 jumps in. I'm cloaked. I warp to 0 on the next gate. I somehow end up being pulled OFF the gate and into a bubble, with a bunch of litter that decloaks me. Locked and killed within 15 seconds.

So what did I do wrong? How is it even possible to avoid this? Manually warping to 0 in a cloaked ship, and there was absolutely NOTHING I could do to avoid this. This, obviously, is why anyone who doesn't have a massive corp to back them up doesn't like nullsec. It's impossible to go anywhere without getting shitkicked, even if you do everything right.

It seemed, from the little I saw, that nearly every gate had a bubble on it. So how does anyone get anywhere?

It seemed, from the little I saw, that nearly every gate had a bubble on it. So how does anyone get anywhere?

MAYHAPS you should have MAYBE used POSSIBLY......................a Bustard. Let me introduce you to this Fantastic ship. : http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bustard

T2 Transports already have a built-in +2 Warp, which means it's already invulnerable to ONE Warp Disruptor.

I fit 4 'Halcyon' Scramblers to my T2 Ships [Bustard, Occator, Mastodon, Impel] (I fly all 4 races of them).

Therefore it takes 4 Warp Scrams from a GANG to even BEGIN to capture me.


Learn to fly your ships.


K I

it's called a sling bubble, and there easy to avoid once you know how.

first - they work by being along the line between the two gates - in front or behind.
the way to avoid them is to have a tactical point that gets you off that line - so say 300km below the gate.


warp to tactical, then warp to gate. viola! sling bubble avoided.

Don't warp to 0 on a gate with others in system, warp to a nearby celestial first, scan the gate for bubbles/ships, then warp from the celestial to the gate. Whats better is to scout the pipe with say an inty and set up on and off grid bookmarks off all the gates to warp to.
Bubbles won't pull you in unless your warping in a direct line with them, if you warp from a different angle you won't be pulled in. (basicly the one you got pulled into was in a direct line between the gate you warped from and that gate and pulled you in)

MAYHAPS you should have MAYBE used POSSIBLY......................a Bustard. Let me introduce you to this Fantastic ship. : http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bustard

T2 Transports already have a built-in +2 Warp, which means it's already invulnerable to ONE Warp Disruptor.

I fit 4 'Halcyon' Scramblers to my T2 Ships [Bustard, Occator, Mastodon, Impel] (I fly all 4 races of them).

Therefore it takes 4 Warp Scrams from a GANG to even BEGIN to capture me.


Learn to fly your ships.


K I

Thanks for the tips. I'll run through the route with a jump clone in a frigate or something and make the proper bookmarks. Should be good then.

Ok, so being my adventurous self I decided it was high time to get my ass out of highsec and learn about null. I figured a decent way to start with this would be to set up some ninja PI.

So, I get my crane, and fit it all nice and sexy cloaky like, and load up a bunch of command centers. I set a course for the Outer Ring (all NPC nullsec all the way), autopilot to the edge of highsec, and then start my trip through the deep dark.

I get 2 jumps in. I'm cloaked. I warp to 0 on the next gate. I somehow end up being pulled OFF the gate and into a bubble, with a bunch of litter that decloaks me. Locked and killed within 15 seconds.

So what did I do wrong? How is it even possible to avoid this? Manually warping to 0 in a cloaked ship, and there was absolutely NOTHING I could do to avoid this. This, obviously, is why anyone who doesn't have a massive corp to back them up doesn't like nullsec. It's impossible to go anywhere without getting shitkicked, even if you do everything right.

It seemed, from the little I saw, that nearly every gate had a bubble on it. So how does anyone get anywhere?

I keep telling people, the only reason null sec denizens are crying about it being lonely out there is because they want new VICTIMS. IF you think those people are going to let you be, and make something of yourself (besides a target), I've got a bridge in San Francisco for sale. It's orange.

It's the same reason they're down on mining in high sec. They want you out in null and low so they can mine YOU.

You may notice most of these tips involve "friends", preset way points or multiple ships and jump clones. Ask them what you do once you get past the sling bubble...now that I'm here...just don't tell them where "here" is or they'll all be paying you a visit with their killboards in mind.

So what did I do wrong? How is it even possible to avoid this? Manually warping to 0 in a cloaked ship, and there was absolutely NOTHING I could do to avoid this. This, obviously, is why anyone who doesn't have a massive corp to back them up doesn't like nullsec. It's impossible to go anywhere without getting shitkicked, even if you do everything right.

It seemed, from the little I saw, that nearly every gate had a bubble on it. So how does anyone get anywhere?

So I followed your advice, I made my safe bookmarks, didn't help me. What's the solution to this one?

On another note, can people put bubbles close enough to gates that you land in it as soon as you come through? How do you avoid this?

There isn't a solution to that one when you're solo. And yes, there can be so many bubbles aroudn a gate, or a HIC or few sitting around and then you're fooked. Welcome to lame PVP.

The reason nobody goes to null-sec is exactly that - every system is owned by somebody, and if you want to play there, you have to join them and dedicate 20 hours per week to "mandatory operations" as well as pay xx millions a week in rental fees and bla bla bla. Nobody wants to deal with that, and the people who do are already doing so. Everyone else is steering clear.

While you are correct in that when you travel in null sec you are likely trespassing on someone's territory, the picture you paint of null sec life is pretty skewed.

20 hours a week participation demanded from renters? Where please? You'd be hard pressed to find a corp that demanded 20 hours a week from their core members, let alone renters.

You can look at any "what will make people go to null sec" threadnaught and see the same thing: people will go to null sec if it's easier. Well sry, null sec requires effort, that's what makes it special. High Sec allows people to play this mmo solo, null sec demands you make friends. I don't see any reason that should change really.

Except for the fact that it's based on my own experiences as a hi-sec "carebear" who's tried, numerous times, to "break through to the other side" over the past year. So the perspective I bring is in fact valid and has been the case for at least 1, and i suspect many dozens more, people.



Did I say that renters require time minimums? No I didn't, thanks. I said renters require xx amount of ISK per week. And why the hell am I gonna pay them? Just to... what? Mine Cornite? lulz

But in regards to my "20 hours a week claim": please learn what hyperbole is.

tbh ...
1) outer ring where the ORE BPO's are kept is probably one of the worst choices. People have been known to tie that entire region down for long periods of time in order to strangle the market for BPO's coming out of there.
2) no scout? really ?
3) I don't necessarily disagree with you that it should be easier.

If this were a fantasy game, the edge of a "safe zone" to someone's territory would be a hugely long border. We'd be able to cross it and possibly even get all the way across their territory without anyone even knowing.

Unfortunately, eve space isn't anything like REAL space. It's not huge or massive, there's a giant population compared to 5 years ago. And the travel takes place in what basically is a long tunnel, and gives anyone hiding in those tunnels a huge advantage - both surprise and being able to set the stage with warp bubbles etc..

I don't think I even SEE a fix for this presently. (Get rid of gates?? :))

+1 I thought this was a decent post.

I had an idea years ago regarding the gates system, one in which the gate in your current system would shoot you into the next system at some arbitrary distance from the destination gate in the next system.

So rather than landing 12 kms from the destination gate you might land anywhere in a 1AU sphere around the destination gate. (I used 1AU, but you could have any distance here, 50kms, 1000...whatever)
So that gates function more like an innacurate slingshot into the destination system rather than the precise instrument they are now.

You would still need to get to the gate in your current system to get to your next system and the camps would be there, but it would completely remove the 'blind side' camp. So you could always get into a system safely, but if the system is actively hostile then the chances of you getting out are small.

Ok, so being my adventurous self I decided it was high time to get my ass out of highsec and learn about null. I figured a decent way to start with this would be to set up some ninja PI.

So, I get my crane, and fit it all nice and sexy cloaky like, and load up a bunch of command centers. I set a course for the Outer Ring (all NPC nullsec all the way), autopilot to the edge of highsec, and then start my trip through the deep dark.

I get 2 jumps in. I'm cloaked. I warp to 0 on the next gate. I somehow end up being pulled OFF the gate and into a bubble, with a bunch of litter that decloaks me. Locked and killed within 15 seconds.

So what did I do wrong? How is it even possible to avoid this? Manually warping to 0 in a cloaked ship, and there was absolutely NOTHING I could do to avoid this. This, obviously, is why anyone who doesn't have a massive corp to back them up doesn't like nullsec. It's impossible to go anywhere without getting shitkicked, even if you do everything right.

It seemed, from the little I saw, that nearly every gate had a bubble on it. So how does anyone get anywhere?

seriously, highseccers don't understand how nullsec works *at all*. the game is a whole lot deeper than it seems in babyspace. if you know what you're doing in nullsec, you are nearly impossible to catch unless *you* **** up.

You can live in null sec for 50 years and be the oldest bone around, the smarter etc, once you jump the gate and the bubble is there you just suck it up, has everyone else.

Such is life in the Zone.

MAYHAPS you should have MAYBE used POSSIBLY......................a Bustard. Let me introduce you to this Fantastic ship. : http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bustard

T2 Transports already have a built-in +2 Warp, which means it's already invulnerable to ONE Warp Disruptor.

I fit 4 'Halcyon' Scramblers to my T2 Ships [Bustard, Occator, Mastodon, Impel] (I fly all 4 races of them).

Therefore it takes 4 Warp Scrams from a GANG to even BEGIN to capture me.


Learn to fly your ships.


K I

There should be a wiki article on this sh!t.

An addition to the advice above: cap dumping. You might want to prepare the ground in a covops (cloak reactivation time: 5s) or a dual-prop interceptor with a cloak (for when you sense a trap and have to hide for a bit, not for the MWD+cloak thing.)



Player skill, tedium, bookmarks, knowing the area. I guess you thought, "I have all this SP, I should be ready for null now!", but that was never the barrier.

To OP: Yeah they should really lose that whole gate bubble thing I mean if you put up a wall to null sec. you wont have a flood of people coming into it. And don't worry about PI. There is plenty o' planets in Empire space, and you can make a great living in EVE without ever going to Null sec.
To all that bookmarking jump here jump there I am so leet because I can evade a warp bubble sometimes, get over yourselves. All you know is how to make a tedious game more tedious. The OP did what the majority of what you said and he still got blown to bits. The best way to travel in Nullsec is with the biggest blob. Always has been. Always will be.

Yes, because big blobs don't attract other blobs to kill them.

Are you stupid? The best way to travel through nullsec is carefully. Removing bubbles doesn't reduce tedium, it reduces the amount of interaction between players. Nullsec isn't highsec. We are the frontier of society. Bring your blanket and a gun.

Ok, so being my adventurous self I decided it was high time to get my ass out of highsec and learn about null. I figured a decent way to start with this would be to set up some ninja PI.

So, I get my crane, and fit it all nice and sexy cloaky like, and load up a bunch of command centers. I set a course for the Outer Ring (all NPC nullsec all the way), autopilot to the edge of highsec, and then start my trip through the deep dark.

I get 2 jumps in. I'm cloaked. I warp to 0 on the next gate. I somehow end up being pulled OFF the gate and into a bubble, with a bunch of litter that decloaks me. Locked and killed within 15 seconds.

So what did I do wrong? How is it even possible to avoid this? Manually warping to 0 in a cloaked ship, and there was absolutely NOTHING I could do to avoid this. This, obviously, is why anyone who doesn't have a massive corp to back them up doesn't like nullsec. It's impossible to go anywhere without getting shitkicked, even if you do everything right.

It seemed, from the little I saw, that nearly every gate had a bubble on it. So how does anyone get anywhere?

If you find yourself in a gate camp after going through a gate, and you are in a covert ops cloaked ship, you can survive as long as you keep your cool and properly assess the situation. If they have a HIC/DIC, and the bubble is not up, expect a delayed bubble. If they have a fast ship there, expect a decloak attempt. To escape a decloak attempt, orient your camera toward a perpendicular line away from the decloaker (Try for a 90 degree angle). Double click in space

and BTW - You cant do PI in Null Sec unless you are a member of the Sov holding alliance.

I don't think I even SEE a fix for this presently. (Get rid of gates?? :))

Edit: Actually I sat down had morning coffee after this.

Getting rid of gates would be awesome. Being able to warp from one system to another, instead of through a gate would really redefine the space, the fights, and bring an immensity to the game that's currently lacking. More scouts would be needed - meaning more small ships would need to accompany fleets - fighting would occur more often at celestials - which I think would also be cool. (The fleet is hiding at an asteroid belt is a star wars classic! ;)).

Ok, so being my adventurous self I decided it was high time to get my ass out of highsec and learn about null. I figured a decent way to start with this would be to set up some ninja PI.

So, I get my crane, and fit it all nice and sexy cloaky like, and load up a bunch of command centers. I set a course for the Outer Ring (all NPC nullsec all the way), autopilot to the edge of highsec, and then start my trip through the deep dark.

I get 2 jumps in. I'm cloaked. I warp to 0 on the next gate. I somehow end up being pulled OFF the gate and into a bubble, with a bunch of litter that decloaks me. Locked and killed within 15 seconds.

So what did I do wrong? How is it even possible to avoid this? Manually warping to 0 in a cloaked ship, and there was absolutely NOTHING I could do to avoid this. This, obviously, is why anyone who doesn't have a massive corp to back them up doesn't like nullsec. It's impossible to go anywhere without getting shitkicked, even if you do everything right.

It seemed, from the little I saw, that nearly every gate had a bubble on it. So how does anyone get anywhere?

Too late, already dead.

To OP: Yeah they should really lose that whole gate bubble thing I mean if you put up a wall to null sec. you wont have a flood of people coming into it. And don't worry about PI. There is plenty o' planets in Empire space, and you can make a great living in EVE without ever going to Null sec.
To all that bookmarking jump here jump there I am so leet because I can evade a warp bubble sometimes, get over yourselves. All you know is how to make a tedious game more tedious. The OP did what the majority of what you said and he still got blown to bits. The best way to travel in Nullsec is with the biggest blob. Always has been. Always will be.

you're cloaked when you come out of a gate, you know. you have a whole lot of time to decide on your course of action.

Too late, already dead.

Must you flaunt your utter ignorance of how EVE works in every thread with "0.0" in the title?

Just because you failed so horribly doesn't mean everyone else has to emulate your failure.

I am sure that most corps don't go around looking for targets who are armed and ready to blow stuff up unless they are at war with that corp. I have been part of a nullsec corp it is in some ways a whole lot like high sec.

Wait, what?

If you are in their space, without their permission, you will be shot as a trespasser in most cases.

Some corps in null sec restrict themselves to only shooting at people they are actively hostile with, but they are the minority. Mostly because it takes a lot of organization to keep track of your huge "red list" of people that will take advantage of your generosity and use it to ambush your people.

I really enjoyed this thread - until this post.

Eve is like chess. Learning the basic moves and learning how to counter them is challenging and enjoyable. The variety of ways a player can be tackled in 0.0 is immense. The variety of tricks used to avoid being tackled is also immense. Calling tactics tedious because they take time, forethought, and planning, makes me think less of you as a human being.

The op asked specific advice and got specific answers - he lasted for longer on his 2nd run. He then encountered a new tactic for which he has come back and asked for more advice. This process is called learning. The more complex the problems an individual wants to learn about, the complex the trial and error period.

If you choose to stay dumb that is your decision. However you chose to intentionally cut down a person who is attempting to learn, and then cut down those who are of their own free will, and in their own time, are willing to help another player learn. For this you need to be called out as what you are; an individual of weak intellect and weak character.

so after you have ducked and dodged your way through the great bubble camp that is 0.0 sec, then what do you do? Chess has an endgame. You make those tough decisions to ultimately win. So what did you gain from all that bookmarking warp here warp there? Did you get an opportunity to blow any enemies up? Did you get to rat some bounties? Did you escape with a boatload of PI components? the OP did not go to nullsec to "tackle" or evade tackle. I regret that I don't find jumping around in an internet spaceship learning like you do. I enjoy my college courses though. I don't have the time to find jumping around 5-10 times to get from point A to point B valuable entertainment when there are so many more productive things to do. I am not the only one who feels like this. Just look at the many complaints about nullsec. You will commonly find complaints about blobs. You obviously don't want to admit that the real problem is warp bubbles. After all it strongly encourages blobs, which is exactly what the OP is complaining about.

seriously.

in nullsec, if it aint blue, its an enemy and dead. no stupid formal declarations.

What he wants to do there is none of our concern, that is his business. We simply pointed out that bubble camps are easily dealt with.

You see, that's the nice thing about bookmarks, once you invest time in making them they are yours forever... to use or copy as you see fit.

He can use his bookmarks to do any number of things... whether that be to sneak a cloaky transport in and out on a regular basis (they can also be fit to evade "bubbles on the blind side" quite efficiently), or a cyno alt to jump a jump freighter in and then back out to low sec when the coast is clear (if he is particularly balsy), or ghost a T3 ship in and out for ratting (or a stealth bomber for that matter if you are more concerned with bounties than loot), or even setting up a covert hot drop from empire if he is a member of a group that specializes in ganking Null Sec anomaly or mission runners, miners, or belt ratters.

That's not the point of the thread. He wanted to know how to get in and out without automatically getting popped in a bubble camp, and that was explained to him in detail.

Still tedious though isn't?

Making the initial book marks can be time consuming, and depending on the local traffic a bit nerve wracking at times.

I don't find slipping in and out of extremely hostile territory tedious. I find it challenging, especially if the people defending their territory know what they are doing.

If your definition of "not tedious" is being able to set your auto pilot and come back to your computer in 20 minutes, I can't help you, sorry. That's an issue at your end.

so after you have ducked and dodged your way through the great bubble camp that is 0.0 sec, then what do you do? Chess has an endgame. You make those tough decisions to ultimately win.

Well speaking for myself, I make billions doing Angel missions in Curse.

Making the initial book marks can be time consuming, and depending on the local traffic a bit nerve wracking at times.
I don't find slipping in and out of extremely hostile territory tedious. I find it challenging, especially if the people defending their territory know what they are doing.
If your definition of "not tedious" is being able to set your auto pilot and come back to your computer in 20 minutes, I can't help you, sorry. That's an issue at your end.

Its challenging, but not really that rewarding by the sounds of things. The closest I've done is ninja running anomalies in wormholes from highsec. And that was way way more convenient.
1) Most wormholes were deserted.
2) There's no real travel time to and from the PvE objective. One quick warp and I'm back in relatively safe highsec. This is important because it reduces the minimum play session required to get anything done and therefore let's me get some more ISK done. And if I have to leave due to hostiles, I can go right back to bearing it up in highsec.
3) Wormhole PvE is noticeably *different* to highsec PvE, which made up for the extra hassle involved in finding the wormhole sites. Is nullsec ratting or anomaly running really that different from running level 4s? That's even if you could safely bring a ship to nullsec capable of doing that stuff.

So my question is, is there anything in nullsec that's sufficiently different from highsec that'd make me want to
-put up with the tedium of repeatedly dodging gatecamps
-lose access to the highsec markets
-forego using expensive ships, fittings and implants.

Its challenging, but not really that rewarding by the sounds of things. The closest I've done is ninja running anomalies in wormholes from highsec. And that was way way more convenient.
1) Most wormholes were deserted.
2) There's no real travel time to and from the PvE objective. One quick warp and I'm back in relatively safe highsec. This is important because it reduces the minimum play session required to get anything done and therefore let's me get some more ISK done. And if I have to leave due to hostiles, I can go right back to bearing it up in highsec.
3) Wormhole PvE is noticeably *different* to highsec PvE, which made up for the extra hassle involved in finding the wormhole sites. Is nullsec ratting or anomaly running really that different from running level 4s? That's even if you could safely bring a ship to nullsec capable of doing that stuff.

So my question is, is there anything in nullsec that's sufficiently different from highsec that'd make me want to
-put up with the tedium of repeatedly dodging gatecamps
-lose access to the highsec markets
-forego using expensive ships, fittings and implants.

so after you have ducked and dodged your way through the great bubble camp that is 0.0 sec, then what do you do? Chess has an endgame. You make those tough decisions to ultimately win. So what did you gain from all that bookmarking warp here warp there? Did you get an opportunity to blow any enemies up? Did you get to rat some bounties? Did you escape with a boatload of PI components? the OP did not go to nullsec to "tackle" or evade tackle. I regret that I don't find jumping around in an internet spaceship learning like you do. I enjoy my college courses though. I don't have the time to find jumping around 5-10 times to get from point A to point B valuable entertainment when there are so many more productive things to do. I am not the only one who feels like this. Just look at the many complaints about nullsec. You will commonly find complaints about blobs. You obviously don't want to admit that the real problem is warp bubbles. After all it strongly encourages blobs, which is exactly what the OP is complaining about.

1. The OP was asking how to travel in 0.0 - read more than his thread title.
2. Step 1 in 0.0 is to explore - the OP is at this point discussion on the value of further game concepts is not in the interests of sandbox game-play.
3. Game entertainment is a subjective attribute. Separating a gang of 5-6 players over 2 systems then picking them off by strategically being "caught" takes 20-30 minutes to set up, 30-50 minutes to execute, and has a success rate of about 15%. The entertainment gained by breaking a small gang while piloting solo is fantastic. Like all things it takes practise
4. Blobs are caused by sovereignty mechanics.
5. PI extraction in 0.0 is way way (to the factor of 5x) more profitable than PI extraction in Empire.
6. Learning comes in every experience life gives you - not just in a book from a professor. I am not belittling the formal education process but only "learning" at school then "entertaining" yourself with no personal development is a bit of a black and white view - actually your posts reveal a very black and white viewpoint of 0.0, Empire, Eve, learning, entertainment, value, life.

7. The warp bubbles make the game tedious and I know we can agree on that.

1. Ok
2.OK
3. I dont see what that has to do with bubble blobs but OK
4. Nah you can find them in Empire too. usually gate camping known choke points into low sec. Faction War too.
5. 5X < worth it for nullsec profits
6. Are you classifing EVE as "Edutainment"?
7. The warp bubbles make the game tedious and I know we can agree on that.

Not so much, no.

Bubbles in Null Sec serve a very important purpose, they restrict free travel without proper preparation and become points of conflict.

If you were a sov owner in null sec you would not want just anybody freely traipsing through your turf in any ship they liked, harvesting "your" resources and giving away intel on your movements to people that don't like you. Nor would you like enemy fleets to be able to move freely through your space without some means to attempt to contain them.

Bubbles add an element of strategy to null sec conflicts that is largely missing from high and low sec combat. They are a tool that can easily become a double edged sword. Many a bubble camp has been turned on the campers and proved to be their undoing.

I'm afraid your just going to have to live with the fact that if you want to trespass on someones property they are going to take steps to make that process challenging for you.

So warp bubbles are walls that keep the unfriendly pilots out?

You gotta be blue bro.

Did I say that renters require time minimums? No I didn't, thanks. I said renters require xx amount of ISK per week. And why the hell am I gonna pay them? Just to... what? Mine Cornite? lulz

Actually, if you look at what you typed, you DID say exactly that. If that's not what you meant, please learn how to avoid run on sentences.

Your doing it wrong.

For one thing you seem to think that your limited exposure to whatever null sec corp you applied to makes you well informed on typical null sec life. You have been misinformed.

By the way, what is Cornite?