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Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.02.18 18:37:00 -
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OH FFS WILL THIS **** EVER DIE?
GET OUT !!! *
* sorry, sorry, I just get carried away. please see all the well reasoned replies in the over 9000 other threads on this topic
edit - also, op you got one like after 9 pages. that aught to tell you something about the worth of your "idea" |
Jon Joringer
Zero-K
101
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Posted - 2014.02.18 18:57:00 -
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I feel like this is akin to the dark side tempting you. I'm sure there have been times for almost everyone where they'd love to just spend a few bucks and skip that terribly long, boring skill.
But that's just terrible design. You'd get the same thing you get in other games -- the IRL rich players will pay not only to have expensive ships, but will also now be max skilled (though player skill is still another thing). |
Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
402
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Posted - 2014.02.18 19:10:00 -
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Hacking Thread,
I want to use a PLEX to..
PLEX for the Removal of Unwanted Skills
You DO NOT get the skill points or skill books back. R.I.P. Vile Rat |
Drakis Toreson
Crafty Productions The Craftsmen
1
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Posted - 2014.03.13 10:18:00 -
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What I actually would like to see (and yes, I know there is a huge amount of people against it, most likely the time-rich) is this:
Each character is able to buy 100.000 Skill Points with AUR (somewhere in the range of an equivalent of $.99 to $3.99?), which includes a 30-day cooldown period. I.e. you can do this only once per month per character (roughly).
If I calculated this correctly this is about the equivalent of 40-45 hours of "normal" skilling, ca. 5-6% of what you get in a month (7200 skill hours).
The limits are quite restrictive. They don't allow a player to get ahead of the curve much. Endgame players with multiple accounts and a bunch of Alts in each likely won't bother with it.
Relatively new players, though, can benefit from this. Imagine you are invited to fly in some Corp-event and you have invested in a new ship to fly. On the Eve of the invent you fit everything and suddenly you find that while you fulfill all the stated requirements just something doesn't gel (CPU, what have you).
Yes, this would be a newb mistake that you could have prevented by calculating your need with a good fitting tool, but that's what happens to newbs. Being able to give you a last second boost might just help this person to participate in the guild event and salvage the gaming night. And theoretically stick around in New Eden longer.
In summary: A limited skill point buy option for AUR would benefit new players more than old ones and wouldn't upset game balance all that much.
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Hello-There
279
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Posted - 2014.03.13 10:23:00 -
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I'm a six month old character with 10 mil+ SP, it really isn't that slow to gather the skills and I'm still learning how to use them all effectively...buying SP in any way will just lead to more annoyance for people as they won't have the game skills to use the character skills effectively.
Besides you can go and buy SP in the character bazaar. Its pretty binary to me, if you want to create your character then do so by training and making choices...if you want a specific SP character then buy it off the market and build from there. |
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
71
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Posted - 2014.03.13 10:32:00 -
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Patience is still a virtue. |
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
459
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Posted - 2014.03.13 10:45:00 -
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Drakis Toreson wrote:An attempt to justify the implementation of Pay2Win
Should you get your way what next? Gold ammo? Gold hulls?
This would be the thin end of the wedge.
NBSI shall be the whole of the Law |
Tulara
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.03.13 12:31:00 -
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Dr Sraggles wrote:Topic says it all.
For the Price of a PLEX why not let me buy a month's worth of SP (@ say, 2500 SP/Hr) that I can then allocate as I choose?
Time is precious to us all. I would like to be able to dump that month's worth of SP into those Level 5 skills that are so painful to train. Then I can buy a plex and finally get T2 Torps and Covops 5 or Cyno 5 etc and not twiddle my thumbs on the rest of my skills while I wait.
PLEX prices rise, CCP profits.
No, I don't want to buy another toon with millions of SP that are not in areas I am interested in, I want unallocated SP for PLEX that I can put precisely where I want it.
/discuss Just... no. |
Tabyll Altol
Aww.. right in the Balls. that hurts
2
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:47:00 -
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No SP for ISK/$ it would ruin Eve. When you want a better Char buy one at the Marketplace.
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Rendiff
Funk Soul Brothers Bloodline.
60
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:59:00 -
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No |
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Jureth22
Perkone Caldari State
164
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Posted - 2014.03.13 14:02:00 -
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yes,but then ccp would need to make the game free. |
Amanda Rosewater
Wolfger's Retreat
8
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Posted - 2014.03.13 14:48:00 -
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You doomed your own argument. When people said older players would buy more SP than new players, you said "who cares if an old player pays to train carrier V. Its worth more for a new player to train frigate V." Well, since that old player is spending 40-60 days on a single lvl 5 skill while the new player is spending much shorter times training a bunch of more useful skills in that same time span, the new players ARE catching up.
While the total SP may not reflect this, the usefulness of that SP is much different between spending 2 mill SP on carrier V and 2 mill SP on frigate 5 and a bunch of good support skills. The design of the game currently allows new players to "catch up" as they train a bunch of useful skills while older players spend far greater time training much less impactful specialty lvl 5 skills. |
Flybiere
F'n'F Inc
8
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Posted - 2014.03.13 15:25:00 -
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Crazy Legs Finnigan wrote:This idea is horrible. I'm going to wardec your corp OP
^ This guy.
Using the wardec mechanics as they should be :)
Can I join in plox?
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Medalyn Isis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
73
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Posted - 2014.03.13 15:50:00 -
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Dr Sraggles wrote:Topic says it all.
For the Price of a PLEX why not let me buy a month's worth of SP (@ say, 2500 SP/Hr) that I can then allocate as I choose?
Time is precious to us all. I would like to be able to dump that month's worth of SP into those Level 5 skills that are so painful to train. Then I can buy a plex and finally get T2 Torps and Covops 5 or Cyno 5 etc and not twiddle my thumbs on the rest of my skills while I wait.
PLEX prices rise, CCP profits.
No, I don't want to buy another toon with millions of SP that are not in areas I am interested in, I want unallocated SP for PLEX that I can put precisely where I want it.
/discuss Why do we keep getting such inane suggestions on the forums lately.
/discuss |
Meandering Milieu
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
16
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Posted - 2014.03.13 16:09:00 -
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Not sure if its been said or not, but I thought plex already bought you a month's worth of SP. |
Renegade Dussault
Cosmic Encounter Surely You're Joking
14
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Posted - 2014.03.13 16:13:00 -
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this is not a pay to win game. i wouldn't like this idea at all. unless you are a troll (successful troll from what i see) this is the worst idea ever talked about in forums :P |
Bohneik Itohn
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
25
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Posted - 2014.03.13 16:15:00 -
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Dr Sraggles wrote:Topic says it all.
For the Price of a PLEX why not let me buy a month's worth of SP (@ say, 2500 SP/Hr) that I can then allocate as I choose?
Time is precious to us all. I would like to be able to dump that month's worth of SP into those Level 5 skills that are so painful to train. Then I can buy a plex and finally get T2 Torps and Covops 5 or Cyno 5 etc and not twiddle my thumbs on the rest of my skills while I wait.
PLEX prices rise, CCP profits.
No, I don't want to buy another toon with millions of SP that are not in areas I am interested in, I want unallocated SP for PLEX that I can put precisely where I want it.
/discuss
Please let this idea die in a fire. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
1916
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:31:00 -
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This thread is back again? Why did it come back twice? Just let it float slowly to the bottom of the forums where it can be eaten by the various scavenger-fish. |
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