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Sean Dillon
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Posted - 2006.03.22 11:43:00 -
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Think about it,
every big allience has corps working on making there first titans and carriers. The one that gets them first, these will be obvious be the bigger once, will be able to launch an unseen powerfull offensive.
And the time of such a thing being made is comming to a close, so do you think major alliences changes will be upon us soon?
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Zulaya
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Posted - 2006.03.22 12:08:00 -
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There's certainly something of a quiet before the storm possibly. Or at the very least we're seeing something of an arms race atm.
With alliances cooking the first titans and motherships atm, and already possessing carriers and dreadnoughts by the dozens, something's gonna be happening sometimes. Can't see some of them having such power and not using it.
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KirikaPhoenix
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Posted - 2006.03.22 12:49:00 -
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I care not for the warfare involved with Titans, I want to see the if you can use them to get into Jove space
They don't need cynofields, they can just jump into an in-range system. So far no word from the dev's or like that you wont be able to use them to do this. Get a Titan into the Vale Of The Silent and have it open a wormhole to move a fleet into Jove space and beyond
Would be very cool if the Joves had a Concord like response to a player Alliance moving into their space, would be very cool to watch.
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Koori
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Posted - 2006.03.22 12:54:00 -
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Quote: They don't need cynofields
Of course Titans do need cynosural field to jump. So Jove space is stil a no no. ------------------------------------------- Sig stolen again :( |
KirikaPhoenix
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Posted - 2006.03.22 13:00:00 -
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Edited by: KirikaPhoenix on 22/03/2006 13:01:52 Titans do not need cyno fields to jump. They are so vastly huge they have the power to remotely scan a system to establish where the standing gravitational wave is, locate the resonance nodes and then blast open a wormhole through to it.
Tis all in the science backstory
Quote: More advanced versions, allowing jumps into systems with no jump gates, are a bit more complex. They send out a constant barrage of high frequency neutron rays, based on the flat-space principle of trans-relativistic physics, through infinitesimal cosmic strings to scout out the destination system. This survey can last for several days before enough data is gathered to allow the ship to create a wormhole (through a resonance node of course) to the destination system.
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Rya Mayanaka
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Posted - 2006.03.22 13:01:00 -
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Guess we will have to wait for an Advanced Jump Drive skill to become available, being able to project a jump point into space without a field. "I'm going to make your face into a Jigsaw puzzle and choke on the pieces" |
KirikaPhoenix
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Posted - 2006.03.22 13:04:00 -
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Cyno fields act as a hook, a beacon that a dread / carrier can lock onto to open a wormhole. I do seem to recall reading somewhere that Titans use the more advanced jump drives due to their almighty size. Also why they can open a stable wormhole long enough to move other ships through it before it collapses
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.03.22 13:08:00 -
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I work with carriers quite a bit.
They are tremendoubly useful support tools, and for active system defence they work a treat, but I doubt they will change the face of EVE. They just seem to be almost better suited to defensive than offensive PvP to be honest.
Titans? I'm not sure. It will be interesting to see how they are used. I doubt there will ever be a sufficiently large number in-game to change EVE dramatically but they are certain to be a very exciting addition.
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Koori
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Posted - 2006.03.22 13:17:00 -
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Quote: Tis all in the science backstory
dont belive in all things that backstory says :P ------------------------------------------- Sig stolen again :( |
R Dan
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Posted - 2006.03.22 13:40:00 -
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Edited by: R Dan on 22/03/2006 13:42:30 also dont forgt that the titans we can build are smaller than the ones that most of the historic backstories are talking about - according to some of the storyline thingys anyway....
and back to the OP: yeah i think they will change the face of eve :) Carriers are very nice defenive medics, happy to heal many shipies in a short time - check out the cap sized Xfers :D.
Motherships have more gang offensive weaponry - ie have up to 3x the number of fighters...which are a pretty nice addition to any small fleet. Titans...well lets see what crazy things people get their titans to do
personally i cant wait (for mine)
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Jagrain Dargosian
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Posted - 2006.03.22 13:58:00 -
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Will the Titan users be sticking to the mantra "don't fly what you can't afford to lose"? Heh, maybe no one will lauch a Titan till they've got a spare ready, too....
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Andril
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Posted - 2006.03.22 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jagrain Dargosian Will the Titan users be sticking to the mantra "don't fly what you can't afford to lose"? Heh, maybe no one will lauch a Titan till they've got a spare ready, too....
Well for titans, i dont think for the most part they will be directly involved in a fleet battle. They seem like they will be used more for their gang bounses, ability to move entire fleets across the universe much more quickly, and much less noticed (that is until they arrive of course), compaired to gate to gate travel.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: KirikaPhoenix I care not for the warfare involved with Titans, I want to see the if you can use them to get into Jove space
Only if someone makes a Cyno field there for you.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:39:00 -
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titans will be so rare they will revolutionise nothing
carriers on the other hand may make big changes to how some fights are fought
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Spokesperson
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sean Dillon Think about it,
every big allience has corps working on making there first titans and carriers. The one that gets them first, these will be obvious be the bigger once, will be able to launch an unseen powerfull offensive.
You mean those without titans wont log off etc?
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: KirikaPhoenix Edited by: KirikaPhoenix on 22/03/2006 13:01:52 Titans do not need cyno fields to jump. They are so vastly huge they have the power to remotely scan a system to establish where the standing gravitational wave is, locate the resonance nodes and then blast open a wormhole through to it.
Tis all in the science backstory
Quote: More advanced versions, allowing jumps into systems with no jump gates, are a bit more complex. They send out a constant barrage of high frequency neutron rays, based on the flat-space principle of trans-relativistic physics, through infinitesimal cosmic strings to scout out the destination system. This survey can last for several days before enough data is gathered to allow the ship to create a wormhole (through a resonance node of course) to the destination system.
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Calenth
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:45:00 -
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Carriers are getting somewhat common.
Motherships and Titans. . honestly, these are so expensive that they almost always aren't going to be worth the risk of fielding them. What can you gain by flying a mothership that would be worth what you risk by flying a mothership?
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Cantari
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: Cantari on 22/03/2006 21:57:38 I think Titans and Motherships will make changes to how large fleet operations are handled (Large means 150+ pilots). These changes will be in the form of support options rather than offensive options.
Except of course where a Titan is used to uber gank and insta bbq and enemy fleet
Clone vats, ships stores, the ability to move an entire fleet of pvp pilots in a matter of seconds and re-equip re arm ships in space....
These are the strengths of Titans and Motherships.
No, they wont revolutionise EvE on a large scale but they will change the face of large scale alliance and fleet operations and warfare.......and I for one look forward to seeing how it all works.
Cantari
*edit for typos....damned space gremlins and their pointy sticks of doom*
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MasterTao
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Posted - 2006.03.22 23:09:00 -
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Imagine goonfleet with a Titan filled with hundreds of frigates in store... and clone their pilots...
Now that's a battle i want to see!
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2006.03.22 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: MasterTao Imagine goonfleet with a Titan filled with hundreds of frigates in store... and clone their pilots...
Now that's a battle i want to see!
Dont give them ideas :P -
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Faith Rose
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Posted - 2006.03.22 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: MysticNZ
Originally by: MasterTao Imagine goonfleet with a Titan filled with hundreds of frigates in store... and clone their pilots...
Now that's a battle i want to see!
Dont give them ideas :P
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Nifel
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:16:00 -
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They'd need to remove npc stations in 0.0 before there could be any real shaping going on.
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Truestrike
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:10:00 -
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I think they will change the face of combat in EVE eventually. If you have enough high-skilled pilots and endless piles of isk, you could field a highly mobile strike fleet with titans and carriers supporting a BS and HAC based fleet. The strength of the capship lies not in the ship iteself.
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Zekk Pacus
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Posted - 2006.03.23 03:01:00 -
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Titans should make us see one thing - wave based warfare.
Think about it - there's like a 30min recharge rate on the doomsday weap. So you warp in a fleet of cheap decoys, they instawtfbbq it, then you warp in a fleet of t2 fitted faction ships...
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TheNecromancer
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Posted - 2006.03.23 06:09:00 -
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yes they will My shop url Online shop
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:08:00 -
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Cleaning up a few things for people.
Titan's Do need cyno's to jump backstorys wrong. They also need cyno's for jump portals and can use cyno's for doomsday weapon firing sequence wether you have to be in the same system for that is unclear though.
Carrier's are becoming more common because they are the cheapest of the new capships to produce so alot of corps rushed out and bought or built one when they hit. Plus there technically cheaper than dreads, dreads quite common already.
I find it highly doubtful that titan's will be at the front line of fleet engagements, tbh I'd still group it with the carriers it certain only has a few more offesive attributes over the carrier and mothership, most of the aspects are more logistical such as the clone bay, bigger cargo and maintence bays. With the current range of capital weaponry about the Titan is more of a big souped up version of a dread. I expect to see some of the big pos kills to go titans once they're brought into play. But overall the biggest feature that will make titans valuable is the jump portal generation, been able to move entire fleets the jump range of a titan in one move potentially bypassing blockades , gate camps and early warning scouts in a single jump allowing groups to be hit from the rear even if there in a bottle neck area of space they will no longer be as safe.
And once they get the problem of not been able to fit a cloak and cyno feild generator to a recon ship, you'll have people employing the tactic of sending a force reacon team in past blockades to deploy cyno's for capships behind the lines.
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Aramova
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: ToxicFire I expect to see some of the big pos kills to go titans once they're brought into play.
Nahhh, the Siege mode on Dreads is where their massive damage comes from, otherwise a good battleship setup out-damages a dread..
Titans don't use siege mode, thus, a dread will out-damage a titan, shot-for-shot unless you take the superweapon into account.
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