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Cade Morrigan
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Posted - 2006.03.22 23:22:00 -
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Hello Devs,
I've been going over the faction cruisers and wanted to bring up a problem with the Gila. This ship is the -only- faction cruiser whose grid and cpu are less than the base model. All of the faction cruisers gain slot(s) and gain grid and/or cpu, except the poor Gila, have a look:
The Caracal/Navy, goes from 5-5-2 to 6-5-4 and gains 220 power grid.
The Stabber/Navy goes from 6-3-3 to 6-4-5 and gains 25 grid and 50 cpu.
The Vexor/Navy goes from 5-3-4 to 5-3-6 and gains 25 grid and 30 cpu.
The Thorax/Vigilant goes from 5-3-5 to 5-4-5 and gains 0 grid and 50 cpu.
The Moa/Gila goes from 6-4-4 to 6-5-4 but LOSES 30 grid and LOSES 10 cpu.
ThatĘs no way to treat a faction cruiser! ;)
It may be intentional (?) that the Navy ships (Caracal, Stabber, Vexor) are much better than the non-Navy ships (Vigilant and Gila), but even the Vigilant gains some CPU along with its additional mid slot. I am suspicious that the MoaĘs grid and cpu was buffed at some point but the Gila missed getting rubbed with the buffing lotion.
IĘd like to see the Gila with an 800 grid and 400 cpu, but iĘd settle for getting the numbers up to match the Moa.
Thanks for reading!
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Hesed
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:16:00 -
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I'll bet it was overlooked during a Moa boost.
I like the snipe cruisers sometimes. Occasionally it is just the thing needed to quickly resolve a 15km "orbit" inty battle before the other gets outside 20km and leaves.
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Cade Morrigan
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Posted - 2006.03.23 16:16:00 -
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Moderators, why was this thread moved? This isn't a pipe-dream game idea, this is a problem with a ship and should be in the Game Dev forum with all the other threads of this type.
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Pinky Denmark
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:29:00 -
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Hope it gets looked into soon then... Looks like a mistake 
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WildAmishRose
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Posted - 2006.04.16 23:58:00 -
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I was under the impression that the gila was a missile boat, in which case, don't all missile boats have tighter fitting constraints on powergrid and CPU? The difference between the ferox and nighthawk is similar. |
Cade Morrigan
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Posted - 2006.04.24 15:39:00 -
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The Gila has six high slots with a max of 4 guns or 4 launchers. It has bonuses for both missiles and hybrid guns. So it really isn't one or the other, why gimp rail users by reducing the grid? On top of that, launchers use -more- CPU than hybrid guns so again, why the reduced cpu?
-= Save the Gila! Fix its grid and cpu! =-
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Justice Bringer
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Posted - 2006.05.04 11:32:00 -
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Singed
There I was wondering why I couldn't fit my 3/3 split of 250 II/XR3200 heavies without great difficulty.
Well, those can fit, it's just having any grid/cpu left to fill the remaining slots with decent equipment.
Anywho, an increase would be nice, so Devs pretty please with sugar on top, fix the Gila.
Give the Gila some Justice. 
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James Snowscoran
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Posted - 2006.05.04 12:34:00 -
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The navy ships are much harder to get hold of and are usually better than the pirate variants.
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Cade Morrigan
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Posted - 2006.05.13 03:07:00 -
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 Originally by: James Snowscoran
The navy ships are much harder to get hold of and are usually better than the pirate variants.
Why yes... yes the navy boats are better. That knowledge doesn't make the Gila right though ;)
-= Save the Gila! Fix its grid and cpu! =-
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mafutero
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Posted - 2006.06.03 16:08:00 -
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/signed!
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lily virtese
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Posted - 2006.06.12 13:07:00 -
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i agree, it only gets one med slot boost, so why gimp the cpu+power, not very fair |
Jared Chancerider
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Posted - 2006.06.20 09:36:00 -
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/signed
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Krav
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Posted - 2006.06.23 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: Krav on 23/06/2006 01:33:10
uh, signed?
has this been fixed yet, or does it require a wait for a bigger patch?
Krav
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Close encounter of the Hijack kind? Impossible.
Unless it is as bad as I think...
And if they were out to get m-- |
Cade Morrigan
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Posted - 2006.06.25 19:03:00 -
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Nope, not fixed yet, thanks for signing!
-= Save the Gila! Fix its grid and cpu! =-
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Rhamnousia
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:59:00 -
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/signed
but try 3 heavies 3 nos...it's work better for me on the moa....
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Audri Fisher
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Posted - 2006.06.25 23:08:00 -
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Moas can't fit 3 heavies...
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Cherybol
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Posted - 2006.06.26 03:36:00 -
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Signed
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Vulor
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Posted - 2006.06.26 18:51:00 -
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signed
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Pilk
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Posted - 2006.07.01 03:44:00 -
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signed
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Audri Fisher
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Posted - 2006.07.01 06:49:00 -
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No answer yet?
Must mine more in high sec/ high traffic systems until this is resolved!
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Sillys
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Posted - 2006.07.02 18:42:00 -
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/signed
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esmeraldina
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Posted - 2006.07.25 12:08:00 -
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/signed
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Mini Drezz
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:46:00 -
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I just bought my first Gila!
\sign
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shol'va
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Posted - 2006.08.01 08:38:00 -
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/signed
I'm crazy about faction ships, but some are hard to get.
Hope to fix it on Gila.
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Shayla Etherodyne
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Posted - 2006.08.02 23:38:00 -
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/signed
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Trevcakes
Caldari
GoonWaffe
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.08.03 01:30:00 -
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Signed
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mafutero
Caldari
Entropy Tech.
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Posted - 2006.08.03 01:46:00 -
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/singed
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TigCobra
Battlestars
Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.03 17:08:00 -
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/signed
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NIkis
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Posted - 2006.08.12 10:43:00 -
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/signed
at least to remove the penalties if not boosting it
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Gribnak
Krizalid
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Posted - 2006.08.16 11:14:00 -
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/signed
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Kura Accipter
The Aeternus Crusade
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Posted - 2006.08.29 19:13:00 -
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/signed
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Cavy Dan
Gallente
Alpha Praetorians
Curse Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.29 23:22:00 -
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/signed
(man, this thread is spammed)
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piepie
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.09.04 11:34:00 -
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/signed
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Larech Frodoth
Caldari
JuBa Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.15 09:25:00 -
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/signed
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swoj
The New Order.
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Posted - 2006.09.15 10:20:00 -
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/signed
give the Gila some love
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Teh Supah
AWE Corporation
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:16:00 -
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/signed
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Teh Supah
AWE Corporation
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: Teh Supah on 02/10/2006 21:15:59
/signed twice ;p
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Xasz
Caldari
Unemployment Office
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Posted - 2006.10.08 12:10:00 -
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/signed
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MikeSnipe
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Posted - 2006.10.31 16:21:00 -
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/signed
Fix the gila
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Amakall
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Posted - 2006.11.19 07:24:00 -
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/sign
Im loving the faction cruiser and am currently saving to get a Rattlesnake Battleship. I hope its worth it cause I loved the Worm and am loving the Gila even more.
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schwar2ss
Black Phantom Ops
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Posted - 2006.11.19 18:42:00 -
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signed...
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Kouran Darkblade
Caldari
Copasetic Joint Special Task Force
Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.22 07:26:00 -
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/signed
The gila diserves some love
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Frug
SYOID
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.01.23 17:16:00 -
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signed, it's bad enough they're ugly.
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Zkillz
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Posted - 2007.02.01 11:05:00 -
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/signed
jsut learned to fly my gila today. i managed to get 4x HAM and 2x med nos with some tank/ab/warp to fit ok. but i have 3pds in the lows.... and i dont do as much damage as i would like....
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Zkillz
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Posted - 2007.02.01 11:05:00 -
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/signed
jsut learned to fly my gila today. i managed to get 4x HAM and 2x med nos with some tank/ab/warp to fit ok. but i have 3pds in the lows.... and i dont do as much damage as i would like....
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Nariana Verex
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.02.01 14:04:00 -
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I don't fly hybrid boats or missile boats or Moas or Gilas, but I can certainly agree that this poor beast needs a cast and a mug of hot soup.
Err. Some grid and CPU.
/signed. For the empire! >O
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Nariana Verex
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.02.02 12:40:00 -
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Bump, because this ship really does need help.
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Flying Amarr and only Amarr. Not a ***** since 2006. |
Sanne Allows
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:30:00 -
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/signed
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John McDuff
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.27 09:15:00 -
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Edited by: John McDuff on 27/02/2007 09:12:02
Compared to the Moa it has more CPU. The two added launcher slots are a bonus even compared to the Eagle and its not an illogical thing to sacrifice pg for that, considering faction ships are rebalanced versions of T1. I don't find it at all weird that the Gila does not have the CPU of a T2 ship and it has some very interesting additions over your run off the mill Moa. I don't think this is an error or that the Gila is deserving of a boost tbh.
Just check the data:
(Quickfit)
edit: citation
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Tolomea
Gallente
5th Front enterprises
New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.02.27 11:11:00 -
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Edited by: Tolomea on 27/02/2007 11:23:53
Originally by: John McDuff
Edited by: John McDuff on 27/02/2007 09:12:02
Compared to the Moa it has more CPU. The two added launcher slots are a bonus even compared to the Eagle and its not an illogical thing to sacrifice pg for that, considering faction ships are rebalanced versions of T1. I don't find it at all weird that the Gila does not have the CPU of a T2 ship and it has some very interesting additions over your run off the mill Moa. I don't think this is an error or that the Gila is deserving of a boost tbh.
Just check the data:
(Quickfit)
edit: citation
Wow, thats a fairly solid boost to the armour and shield over both of the others, and it gets a boost to agility over both of them.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.08 09:47:00 -
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Description of the bonus is still broken:
Quote:
Caldari Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Heavy Missile damage per level
in reality the bonus is:
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Caldari Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Kinetic Heavy Missile damage per level
I haven't jet tested if the bonus extend to other kinetic missiles.
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Cade Morrigan
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.08 02:55:00 -
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Edited by: Cade Morrigan on 08/05/2007 02:51:53
Originally by: John McDuff
Edited by: John McDuff on 27/02/2007 09:12:02
Compared to the Moa it has more CPU. The two added launcher slots are a bonus even compared to the Eagle and its not an illogical thing to sacrifice pg for that, considering faction ships are rebalanced versions of T1. I don't find it at all weird that the Gila does not have the CPU of a T2 ship and it has some very interesting additions over your run off the mill Moa. I don't think this is an error or that the Gila is deserving of a boost tbh.
Just check the data:
*blows the dust off of his sig thread*
Yeah it looks like they might have stealth bumped the CPU on the Gila while i was unsubscribed for 10 months. It was, according to the ship fitter of mid-2006, sitting at a measly 350 CPU. I still think adding a slot to the ship but removing power grid is lame though, should at least be the same grid.
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Riven Starkill
Caldari
Regalis Industria Scientia Entreprendre
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.08 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
Description of the bonus is still broken:
Quote:
Caldari Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Heavy Missile damage per level
in reality the bonus is:
Quote:
Caldari Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Kinetic Heavy Missile damage per level
I haven't jet tested if the bonus extend to other kinetic missiles.
Has anyone figured this out yet? Does the damage bonus apply to light and heavy assault missiles, or is it restricted to heavy missiles only?
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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
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Posted - 2007.05.08 08:16:00 -
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I think the Gila is as ccp wants it atm since they just cleaned up at least the descriptions of bonuses...
You should be able to look it up in-game now with the correct bonuses listed.
Gila is nice over a Moa but It's not really got any edge over anything similar like Eagle or Caracal Navy Issue (basically same stats with different hi-slot layout)
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Cade Morrigan
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.08 21:49:00 -
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Yeah i'm not so militant about a change these days, I think I'll take the link out of my sig and let her sink to the bottom. *sniffle*
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.05.09 01:24:00 -
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What about the Eagle compared to the other HACs?
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