pretty colors make it more impressive
but there's probably less than 100 people from any of those alliances in game and operational at any given time.

a map of Nebraska can seem pretty impressive also, but when you go there you discover its a bunch of empty

2/4th of eve

Winter is coming.

Now we just need some ******* to throw someone's kid out of a metaphorical window and it'll be WAR, WAR EVERYWHERE.

It should be a struggle for big groups to actually defend themselves against small groups. Right now it's trivially easy for the big groups to maintain their stranglehold on null. This is not only bad for the market and all that, but for player retention. Once a new player realizes that they and their alliance will NEVER be allowed to play with the "big kids," the only thing left for them is to finish whatever they are working on, and then quit. This takes about 6 months.

Big alliances should fear small groups. A big alliance should avoid having too much sov, not just because that area is worthless, but because they risk a total failscade if they do.

The sad thing is, CCP Grayscale is in charge of nullsec. He will ONLY make changes that make the big guys bigger. If EVE ever dies, it will be Grayscale's fault. And with his track record, it's not that far away.

More curiosity than anything else, but what can smaller raiding parties accomplish anything that can't be prevented by simply finding safe spots as soon as Local spikes? I've never lived in 0.0 for more than a month so I honestly don't know.

Can small groups actually cause any damage before getting blobbed to kingdom come?

It depends on the goal of the small group. If you're talking about a fast moving fleet of, say, 20 vagas and associated ships than realize right now there is no real "defense" of these small groups.

Sure, eventually a defense fleet is mustered.... usually a spattering of BCs or whatever... and at that point if the small roaming fleet chooses to fight then you have one, but if they want they just leave and things go back to normal.

If you mean about defending from a full invasion in order to take the system, It's highly possible to attack, depending. It's incredibly complex. The numbers game comes into play here and to be honest a tiny alliance brute forcing an invasion into the heart of a large alliance's territory would be foolhardy and is fine.

The problem is the coalitions formed, and to be honest nothing can be done to prevent that- even if CCP decided to change things up and try to penalize coalitions eventually a way would be made around it. People want blues nearby, and reds within reach. Always.

What needs to be done is more enocouragment of small, controlled areas the size of constellations and less desire for regional control.

It's easy to identify, track, and react with a blob to any 'small group' trying to disrupt large alliance logistics/farming. It's also very easy to avoid that 'small group' for anyone involved in large alliance logistics/farming.

Why? Because those farmers, or anyone chilling at a POS or an outpost is part of a huge, multi-alliance-wide intel network made possible by INSTANT and OMNIPOTENT LOCAL.

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Just thought I'd throw that out there. Besides, I still have the feeling deep down, that the big powerbloc bluefesters will somehow gain more advantage from no local than small groups. I'm not sure how, but I feels it in my bones.

More curiosity than anything else, but what can smaller raiding parties accomplish anything that can't be prevented by simply finding safe spots as soon as Local spikes?

Winter is coming.

The only thing interesting about that is how goons started saying it before anyone else knew what they were talking about. But i guess NDAs aren't all that important when you've got the management eating out of your hand.

All it is going to do is change how the currently existing powerblocs fight eachother, and has nothing really to do with the subject of this thread.

No goons have broken the NDA. The supercap nerfs were talked about by CCP devs at a fan gathering. Darius III, on the other hand, was proven to have broken the NDA.

Mittens making sh!t up isn't proof. Mittens launching an alliance-wide campaign to capitalize on the upcoming dev implemented bottlenecks in ice products is more proof than anything. Stop sucking Mitten's d!ck. It makes you look brainwashed and weak willed.

However, Mittens doing stuff that should get him perma-banned is not the topic here... the topic is that EVE will die if nullsec isn't permanently destabilized.

The only thing interesting about that is how goons started saying it before anyone else knew what they were talking about. But i guess NDAs aren't all that important when you've got the management eating out of your hand.

All it is going to do is change how the currently existing powerblocs fight eachother, and has nothing really to do with the subject of this thread.

Correct me if I'm wrong (as I am not in an alliance), but I think that everyone has enough pocket money that no matter if you make the Tech moons or whatever other economic incentive teleport around every three weeks, the big powerblocs won't fight unless they WANT to.

For that, you have to make war FUN, not just profitable.

Clearly the answer is to teleport miners and other care bears to null sec. Make it like a trap door or something. They click on a random asteroid and suddenly they wake up in a null sec asteroid belt.

That way the "hardcore" pvpers wouldn't have to travel so far to kill them. Apparently that is what they enjoy anyway.

This is absolutely correct and why supercaps need to be nerfed. As soon as they are involved they take the fun out of any engagement.

lets say someone had a grudge against one of the OP's "Powerblocks" or didn't care much for the business model being used by one or more of them.....now that we have a motive to attack - what can be done ?

SBU's are reasonably priced 130 - 140 mil and very easy to place ...anyone with a Bestower, a Prototype Cloak and starbase configuration role can place an SBU anywhere they choose. (Provided you are in an alliance )

Thats not hype i travel thru hostile 0.0 in my "Deep Space" Bestower, cloak, inertia stabs, and probe launcher.

The problem comes in the response time allowed the sovernity holders. ...If you have a handful of Caps pilots watching their vast holdings of almost deserted space they have plenty of time to email, phone, schedule pizza in and generally graze contentedly in the direction of the problem.
At such time as they do show up it's the status quo and not inviting for the smaller alliances to try.

BTW..i haven't positioned my little corp with access to dropping SBU's in systems of the OP's Powerblocks at any time a war breaks out and the "good guys" contact me about doing it. I wouldn't dream of something like that.

You make it sound like it's impossible for sov to change hands. Go find a sov map from a year ago and one from today. Two entities who were supposed to be invulnerable, IT Alliance and the Northern Coalition, are gone. Once supercaps are finally nerfed those alliances who poured all of their resources into nothing but I-Win buttons are going to have a very hard time keeping their space and hopefully the necessity of having a huge supercap fleet before even attempting to make a place in nullsec will be greatly reduced.

For now I would suggest taking your corp and finding a nullsec alliance that shares your ideals and goals and hooking up with them. There are plenty of options that don't include mandatory CTAs, alarm clock ops, paying isk for "rent", or becoming a slave.

test? I dunno...

Test are like goons... they came from somewhere else. They didn't have to recruit, they showed up with a full structure in place. And I'd have to check history, but I'm pretty sure they were given what they have in-game by patrons.

edit: not that I'm against it, but it's a poor example of a NEW group starting from the ground up.

Mabye I misunderstood then.

What is your idea of a home-grown grassroots new 0.0 alliance?

this is not nearly as interesting if you dodge the questions....

carpal tunnel?

Well, here's a question... what was the latest NEW alliance to start from scratch to make a splash on the map? The fact that alliances are falling off the map is not encouraging, it just means that devs are more and more making nullsec to favor special interest groups rather than more and more players.

Mittens making sh!t up isn't proof. Mittens launching an alliance-wide campaign to capitalize on the upcoming dev implemented bottlenecks in ice products is more proof than anything. Stop sucking Mitten's d!ck. It makes you look brainwashed and weak willed.

However, Mittens doing stuff that should get him perma-banned is not the topic here... the topic is that EVE will die if nullsec isn't permanently destabilized.

-Nerf tech moons so the alliances ruling them dont have free sov across 2/4th of eve & free titans & risk free super production

For the umpteenth time:

Nerfing tech is pointless, you just end up with the same results from the previous 2 or 3 moon Goo nerfs before it with a more valuable moon goo. CCP need to adjust it so that a small tactical group can come in and disrupt production, however that maybe, for example out of shield silos or harvesters.

I serieously wonder what'd happen if you'd end up with half of DRF's space being utter crap for a three month period due to the vagaries of the RNG, and the rest staying very good. Ima stand back an watch with interest then.