Originally by: cirya

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Edited by: cirya on 25/03/2006 10:57:25

Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Baun

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Serenity Steele

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Well it may be a misunderstanding, or ...

.. maybe I've gone insane from personally managing 140,000m ISK of player funds and decided to get sick thrills by ripping off players on 25m isk scams knowing that I could get away with it. I mean surely even the most inept conspiracy theorist wouldn't believe an alliance leader would scam for a measly 25m?

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Why do rich people shoplift from the poundshop?

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because things at the pound shop cost -$35, fking economy.

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hahaha, so true :p

Serenity Steel, pay up or return the foods, your position is not one of the vengeant vigalante protecting 25m isk scams everywhere, trying to be will end badly for you and the reputation of blISS and meself.

As for "why would I scam for a measly -25m", do you remember the first universe wide pyramid scam a couple of years ago?

"only 1m", they said.

That netted the scammer 1b isk, or more.

So no, it isn't just "25m isk", it's your reputation, is it only worth a measly 25m?

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its easy to make some one say something they dinna say by carefull edditing of a post. see come up with 25 mil for nothing indead a scam, :) like my changes to the quotes ?

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Originally by: Thomas Jefferson

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A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither

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Originally by: fghr

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ISS = bad all big things gets bad in the end they think they are the uber when it gets to big the history show us this and will show again and again

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Originally by: Tyrian Solteuer

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I think this whole thing might give more insight into why the CC and CDC stand so strongly in our positions against ISS. They're not targets of opportunity or because we are bored, it is simply a matter of ideological conflict. People may buy into the idea that when ISS puts a station in your neighborhood that they are helping you in some way. In reality when they put that station there they not only own the space, but also the people that live there. They know this and are forced to put heavy spin on what is very plainly a slow territorial conquest policy. So basically what you have is public funded imperialism...which is all fine and good till they're in your backyard. We simply feel that thier business model is wholesale manipulation, that would be much more respectable if they had a talented pvp wing backing them up. Unfortunately they rely on mercs and a ragtag band of pvp noobs and alts to do thier fighting for them. They swing huge profits off thier IPOs and from all other aspects of their outpost business and in reality contribute very little positive influence the 0.0 regions they inhabit. They are parasites plain and simple.

I think this latest string of posts has shown the true arrogance and short sightedness of the ISS management. Perhaps everyone will understand better now why we do what we do. I can only hope that the pilots involved in thier IPOs will no longer be swayed by thier rhetoric. Sell your ISS shares while you can...othewise its like dropping your savings into building the Titanic. Its day will come.

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Originally by: IamBen

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Originally by: Tyrian Solteuer

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I think this whole thing might give more insight into why the CC and CDC stand so strongly in our positions against ISS. They're not targets of opportunity or because we are bored, it is simply a matter of ideological conflict. People may buy into the idea that when ISS puts a station in your neighborhood that they are helping you in some way. In reality when they put that station there they not only own the space, but also the people that live there. They know this and are forced to put heavy spin on what is very plainly a slow territorial conquest policy. So basically what you have is public funded imperialism...which is all fine and good till they're in your backyard. We simply feel that thier business model is wholesale manipulation, that would be much more respectable if they had a talented pvp wing backing them up. Unfortunately they rely on mercs and a ragtag band of pvp noobs and alts to do thier fighting for them. They swing huge profits off thier IPOs and from all other aspects of their outpost business and in reality contribute very little positive influence the 0.0 regions they inhabit. They are parasites plain and simple.

I think this latest string of posts has shown the true arrogance and short sightedness of the ISS management. Perhaps everyone will understand better now why we do what we do. I can only hope that the pilots involved in thier IPOs will no longer be swayed by thier rhetoric. Sell your ISS shares while you can...othewise its like dropping your savings into building the Titanic. Its day will come.

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Right, so you are standing up for truth and justice by ganking noob npc'ers in KDF? You guys blow up ISS because they are soft targets. Please stop with the "we are fighting to save EvE from the ebil ISS" bs.

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Originally by: Eris Discordia

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We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.

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Originally by: Alecia

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Honestly, after reading this entire thread, ISS top officials come accros as pompous, arrogant and condescending individuals. ISK has gone to your heads, and for an alliance to rely on being neutral, to all parties/neighbors, I now see why they are after due time, causing problems for those who give them access in 0.0

To say your alliance isnt rich, so be it, your CEO only controls 120+ billion isk....cry me a river. The way YOUR officals and CEO went about this REGARDLESS of how much email you get per day is void...thats how you approachhed playing this game and becoming successful in what you do, again cry me a river. But to say he caused this drama on the forums is again void...you caused it by smartazz replies and condscending replies and laughing about it, to which many in the public found VERY distasteful; coming from such a carebear money making alliance that are supposedly buddy with everyone. SO live and learn and take the repurcussions as a learning lesson, you brought this upon yourself.

Live with it, or stand by it...if it's the later, change your alliance name to Arrogant Starbase Syndicate. Fitting it would be A.S.S.

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Originally by: Astasia Orian

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So many angry NPC corp alts in this thread :(

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Originally by: Tyrian Solteuer

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I think this whole thing might give more insight into why the CC and CDC stand so strongly in our positions against ISS. They're not targets of opportunity or because we are bored, it is simply a matter of ideological conflict. People may buy into the idea that when ISS puts a station in your neighborhood that they are helping you in some way. In reality when they put that station there they not only own the space, but also the people that live there. They know this and are forced to put heavy spin on what is very plainly a slow territorial conquest policy. So basically what you have is public funded imperialism...which is all fine and good till they're in your backyard. We simply feel that thier business model is wholesale manipulation, that would be much more respectable if they had a talented pvp wing backing them up. Unfortunately they rely on mercs and a ragtag band of pvp noobs and alts to do thier fighting for them. They swing huge profits off thier IPOs and from all other aspects of their outpost business and in reality contribute very little positive influence the 0.0 regions they inhabit. They are parasites plain and simple.

I think this latest string of posts has shown the true arrogance and short sightedness of the ISS management. Perhaps everyone will understand better now why we do what we do. I can only hope that the pilots involved in thier IPOs will no longer be swayed by thier rhetoric. Sell your ISS shares while you can...othewise its like dropping your savings into building the Titanic. Its day will come.

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Originally by: Uggster

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Originally by: Tyrian Solteuer

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I think this whole thing might give more insight into why the CC and CDC stand so strongly in our positions against ISS. They're not targets of opportunity or because we are bored, it is simply a matter of ideological conflict. People may buy into the idea that when ISS puts a station in your neighborhood that they are helping you in some way. In reality when they put that station there they not only own the space, but also the people that live there. They know this and are forced to put heavy spin on what is very plainly a slow territorial conquest policy. So basically what you have is public funded imperialism...which is all fine and good till they're in your backyard. We simply feel that thier business model is wholesale manipulation, that would be much more respectable if they had a talented pvp wing backing them up. Unfortunately they rely on mercs and a ragtag band of pvp noobs and alts to do thier fighting for them. They swing huge profits off thier IPOs and from all other aspects of their outpost business and in reality contribute very little positive influence the 0.0 regions they inhabit. They are parasites plain and simple.

I think this latest string of posts has shown the true arrogance and short sightedness of the ISS management. Perhaps everyone will understand better now why we do what we do. I can only hope that the pilots involved in thier IPOs will no longer be swayed by thier rhetoric. Sell your ISS shares while you can...othewise its like dropping your savings into building the Titanic. Its day will come.

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Thats why you guys live in NPC stations that you cant lose and attack a group that live off the beaten track in a system with no station there before.

You must really think that the rest of eve is stupid to not see through such a transparent attempt at justifying your hitting a target that is of no territoraly threat to you in the least.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Edited by: Butter Dog on 27/03/2006 09:06:14

Mercs were hired on you because you were always bubble camping KDF - get *your* facts straight.

We all know who initiated hostilities, and it wasn't the ISS.

These days of course, you only come to KDF in cloaking ships and attack T1 frigates. Very impressive.

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Originally by: Chain Gang

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What I understand the ISS have very easy conditions for any alliance and/or corporation to be classed a non-hostile.

"Don't PVP in the Outpost Systems and don't PVP against the ISS"

So its seems rather silly for a Alliance like the CDC who openly considers the ISS hostile complain and moan on the forums / local when the ISS defends itself.

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Originally by: Kuang

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All I can say is ISS lately has been dropping good loot

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I received a very kind evemail from SS today. He thought that the OP in the sell orders thread had sent him shares, and then some scamming third-party was coming along and claiming that they were the ones who sent the shares. Since there is no way to tell who the shares came from, she assumed I was taking credit for somebody else's gift of shares. I would like, again, to publically apologize to SS. I should never have brought this matter to the forums anyway. I thank the community for their kindness to me in this thread, but believe their anger at ISS was misdirected. Both SS and I made errors, and I made perhaps the greatest error in bringing this issue to the forums. Please let this thread die now!

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Originally by: Purgatori

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It was said alot of NPC corp's unhappy

Id think from the differnt Alliances posting also they arnt either

I would say good luck making a fool of your selfs.seem to be doing it just fine tho

gj ISS

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Purgatori

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It was said alot of NPC corp's unhappy

Id think from the differnt Alliances posting also they arnt either

I would say good luck making a fool of your selfs.seem to be doing it just fine tho

gj ISS

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Interesting. How exactly is successfully managing the funding and contruction of 5 public outposts 'making a fool of ourselves'?

Investors vote with their feet. No-one forces anyone to purchase ISS shares, players do so because they know ISS is well run, it has integrity, and has proven itself time and time again to be a sound and worthwhile investment proposition linked into the development of 'neglected' areas of 0.0 space.

That says FAR more about an organisation than pointless flames on a forum from people like you ever will.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Edited by: Butter Dog on 27/03/2006 09:06:14

Mercs were hired on you because you were always bubble camping KDF - get *your* facts straight.

We all know who initiated hostilities, and it wasn't the ISS.

These days of course, you only come to KDF in cloaking ships and attack T1 frigates. Very impressive.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Alecia

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Honestly, after reading this entire thread, ISS top officials come accros as pompous, arrogant and condescending individuals. ISK has gone to your heads, and for an alliance to rely on being neutral, to all parties/neighbors, I now see why they are after due time, causing problems for those who give them access in 0.0

To say your alliance isnt rich, so be it, your CEO only controls 120+ billion isk....cry me a river. The way YOUR officals and CEO went about this REGARDLESS of how much email you get per day is void...thats how you approachhed playing this game and becoming successful in what you do, again cry me a river. But to say he caused this drama on the forums is again void...you caused it by smartazz replies and condscending replies and laughing about it, to which many in the public found VERY distasteful; coming from such a carebear money making alliance that are supposedly buddy with everyone. SO live and learn and take the repurcussions as a learning lesson, you brought this upon yourself.

Live with it, or stand by it...if it's the later, change your alliance name to Arrogant Starbase Syndicate. Fitting it would be A.S.S.

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Another flaming alt troll hehe...

Next!


PS - the 120 billion you refer to has been spent constructing outposts, in case you had not noticed :p

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Oh, poor CC, playing the victims. Don't you guys have anything else to do in EVE? You're like a stuck record.

You attacked us repeatedly, then we set some mercs on you. So what? Everyone knows the ISS don't go round attacking people unless we are aggressed first. You have turned down an offer of an NAP on a number of occasions, so just quit your moaning will you. Not that we ever see you in KDF these days unless you count being cloaked in a safespot.

Still - never mind, at least you can hide in all your unconquerable NPC stations

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Originally by: Raid

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This arrogant attitude right here is exactly why we have not naped you. Instead of addressing what I have said you turn around and say some stupid stuff like this. You offer us a nap, we turn it down. Why? because of the kind of stuff you say right here. You act like its your right to pass through our space whenever you want.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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The funniest moment of all, for me, was seeing you in KDF in a stealth bomber shortly after an LV fleet entered Doril.

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