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WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion
193
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:21:00 -
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In times of war there can often be hostile relations between both sides. Forum spam, local bashing, lolgaming news sites, we have all seen it.
But today I feel everyone can come together, who right now fight against each other in HED-GP, everyone can come to an agreement on one thing.
Fix Sov
This is terrible, this is not epic, this is not grand, this is not amazing. This is just putting a gun to the head of a blind and deaf man and yet this is also EvEs largest capital battle ever.
While the battle today is not the fault of CCP, we are merely people playing the game you created for us, it can at lest put a remind that something more needs to be done perhaps. The server can not handle these battles yet, but sov dictates they have to happen to take a single system.
I am not here to tell you how it can be done, CCP knows the code better then I and know what is possible and what is not. I am just want to say that the current Sov system(which has been around longer then POS sov system of old) is sub-optimal to the current EvE player base.
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Dave Stark
4244
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:22:00 -
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gotta say i'm watching a stream and it basically looks like 4000 pilots afk in bubbles. there's literally nothing visually interesting happening.
how you guys sit and tolerate this **** i'll never know. |

Mr LaboratoryRat
Confederation of DuckTape Lovers
28
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:26:00 -
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Blue standings vs another corp/Alliance should cost isk. More blues = more tax.
Thats all im saying, think about it. |

Mah Boobz
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:26:00 -
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I wonder, if CCP hadn't spent all that money on Dust and WOD, and instead, put it into the Eve servers (were the money was made) if we could actually have the fights CCP brag about? |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9870
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:28:00 -
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Too many caps, too many caps on all sides.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Dave Stark
4244
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:30:00 -
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Mr LaboratoryRat wrote:Blue standings vs another corp/Alliance should cost isk. More blues = more tax.
Thats all im saying, think about it.
that's just going to create third party junk to replace blue standings and nothing will be resolved. set standings on third party website system, import your local list and it'll tell you who is and isn't blue... no tax paid.
in fact, i'm pretty sure there are already tools that do this. |

trader joes Ichinumi
Waltaratzor Corporation
27
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:33:00 -
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The only realistic solution is to create incentives for attacking multiple systems at once so this doesn't happen, but that would take a lot of work.
Off the top of my head: Create control points in adjacent systems that give bonuses to your allies. IE Each control point grants 10% more damage. If you have 4 such points, you could really reduce the workload.
However, this would require a lot of rebalancing of ships and reworking sov, which I doubt CCP will do. |

MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1681
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:37:00 -
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WarFireV wrote:In times of war their can often be hostile relations between both sides. Forum spam, local bashing, lolgaming news sites, we have all seen it.
But today I feel everyone can come together, who right now, fight against each other in HED-GP. Everyone can come to an agreement on one thing.
Fix Sov
This is terrible, this is not epic, this is not grand, this is not amazing. This is just putting a gun to the head of a blind an deaf man and yet this is also EvEs largest capital battle ever.
While the battle today is not the fault of CCP, we are merely people playing the game you created for us, it can at lest put a remind that something more needs to be done perhaps. The server can not handle these battles yet, but sov dictates they have to happen to take a single system.
I am not here to tell you how it can be done, CCP knows the code better then I and know what is possible and what is not. I just want to say that the current Sov system(which has been around longer then POS sov system of old) is sub-optimal to the current EvE player base.
some PL guy came up with a really good idea for fixing sov... it had to do with capital system for every constilation to take sov for the whole constilation you would have to have one big fight for the capital (which would still lead to mind slow lag)
but there would be loads of fun leading up to that in the form of enhanced FW plexes that would have to be taken to secure outer lining systems. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10038
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:39:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:some PL guy came up with a really good idea for fixing sov... it had to do with capital system for every constilation to take sov for the whole constilation you would have to have one big fight for the capital (which would still lead to mind slow lag)
but there would be loads of fun leading up to that in the form of enhanced FW plexes that would have to be taken to secure outer lining systems.
you've played long enough to know that that suggestion is literally pre-dominion sov Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

dantes inferno
Pulsar Inc. Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:41:00 -
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Thx CCP for this afternoon "fight", that's the worst game experience i've ever had................................. |
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WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion
201
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:43:00 -
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At this point talking and getting CCP to admit it might need to look into Sov again is better then coming up with something that may or may not be possible
It will not be an easy task, but Eve has changed since Dominion has come about. I mean we were still using RR-CRBS when it came out! |

Rekkr Nordgard
The Ardency of Faith
313
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:46:00 -
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CCP can't fix Sov, they're too busy doing super duper really important things like adding broken deployables to nerf nullsec ratting income. |

Admiral Snowbird
Kriegsmarinewerft Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:49:00 -
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but Eve has changed because we have ESS now!
But really CCP will not change anything because we're a small group ~6000ppl and not the mainstream so they better work on other cool stuff |

Thead Enco
Killing is Business Get Off My Lawn
61
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:49:00 -
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Stop with the half a$$ development of products that take you three times as long to make Vs. your competitors that have little value to your flagship game. Stop wasting resources on "Community Reps" and Stop for the love of God with bull **** modules like the "ESS" or other "Ideas" that is comparable to the bastard expansion that was Incarna.
"Any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king."
Tywin Lannister-á |

Mr LaboratoryRat
Confederation of DuckTape Lovers
29
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:50:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Too many caps, too many caps on all sides.
Too many tech, tooo many technetium for years on an end...
Told you so CCP
gl fixing |

Cor Six
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
6
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:52:00 -
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Let me tell you... 2 hrs jumptunnel aint fun.
But ohwell now we all know that if its coalition vs coalition fights were back to 2006. The one that smaks there forces in to the system first wins cuz the other one simply cant get in.
Atleast i hope CCP reimbursts all those dreads. Star Citizen anyone? |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9872
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:53:00 -
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Mr LaboratoryRat wrote:baltec1 wrote:Too many caps, too many caps on all sides.
Too many tech, tooo many technetium for years on an end... Told you so CCP gl fixing
They nerfed that a while ago.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Zircon Dasher
332
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:53:00 -
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Better server/code = more "people" needed to play the lag/tidi/node crush war More "people" needed to play the lag/tidi/node crush war = more alt accounts
Therefore, Better server/code = more alt accounts
More alt accounts = same game experience for unique players More alt accounts = more money for CCP
THEREFORE, Better server/code = more money for CCP and same game experience for unique players
Rinse and Repeat Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'. |

MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1681
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:53:00 -
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WarFireV wrote:At this point talking and getting CCP to admit it might need to look into Sov again is better then coming up with something that may or may not be possible
It will not be an easy task, but Eve has changed since Dominion has come about. I mean we were still using RR-CRBS when it came out!
if the nestor is a taste of things to come... you might start again 
though ccp veritas did make a dev blog in 2011 talking about how they were thinking of fixing sov.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/nullsec-development-design-goals/
its been 2.5 years think they have the an idea of where they want to go by now. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |

Findail
Kenshin. Against ALL Authorities
10
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:53:00 -
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dantes inferno wrote:Thx CCP for this afternoon "fight", that's the worst game experience i've ever had.................................
Instead of lying about how awsome fights in EvE are on your official youtube channel, fix sov, fix tidi...And be sure this ****** game play will be shown by players on youtube. We will laugh when subscription will go down again (already happening anyway...)
Yep. Stayed up all night in the hopes of an epic fight... and instead get a system where even if you wait an hour the grid can't load  |
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9872
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:56:00 -
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Findail wrote:dantes inferno wrote:Thx CCP for this afternoon "fight", that's the worst game experience i've ever had.................................
Instead of lying about how awsome fights in EvE are on your official youtube channel, fix sov, fix tidi...And be sure this ****** game play will be shown by players on youtube. We will laugh when subscription will go down again (already happening anyway...) Yep. Stayed up all night in the hopes of an epic fight... and instead get a system where even if you wait an hour the grid can't load 
I think you died some time ago. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Gettz Squall
Unified Combatants Against ALL Authorities
5
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:57:00 -
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I wish i was not there...f*ck, i lost my interest to defend hed with this kind of tidi,,,,go ahead n3 , just take it....im going to bed |

Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
325
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Posted - 2014.01.18 20:59:00 -
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said it once, will say again:
the root cause is that the sov system rewards blobbing in the form of timers and timing windows.
come up with a system that gets rid of the timing window aspect, and the blobbing will take a sharp downturn. |

Sakaron Hefdover
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:02:00 -
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trader joes Ichinumi wrote:The only realistic solution is to create incentives for attacking multiple systems at once so this doesn't happen, but that would take a lot of work.
Off the top of my head: Create control points in adjacent systems that give bonuses to your allies. IE Each control point grants 10% more damage. If you have 4 such points, you could really reduce the workload.
However, this would require a lot of rebalancing of ships and reworking sov, which I doubt CCP will do.
That won't do ****
You need anti blob stuff, such as fleet formations that give bonuses, and New AOE weapons that can become common and don't require a specialized ship to use.
Both at the same time however |

Zircon Dasher
333
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:02:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote: the root cause is that the PVP system rewards blobbing
FYP Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'. |

Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
720
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:04:00 -
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over 2 hours now spent in warp tunnel.
"epic battle"
Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |

Findail
Kenshin. Against ALL Authorities
10
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:04:00 -
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[quote=baltec1
I think you died some time ago.[/quote]
Think I sat in my wreck for about half an hour or so hoping that my pod would load so I could pod myself out.... But it never happened. From jumping in to arriving back in a new clone I never saw a thing.
I agree with the OP - they need to fix the way sov works, since it's pretty clear the nodes can't handle big fights |

Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
561
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:05:00 -
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Can we maybe get less new deployable things and more work on sov mechanics and a better way to reinforce nodes, or help them be able to better handle these types of fights? I understand nothings perfect, but you're getting free advertisement from us and where do all your large epic battles take place that you try to sell to new players, might want to make sure it sorta' works.
We (CFC/NC./PL -and everyone else who deals with this) want to play this game, but when we have these huge fights that are inevitable, it's very difficult and I dare say it's unplayable. Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9872
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:06:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:said it once, will say again:
the root cause is that the sov system rewards blobbing in the form of timers and timing windows.
come up with a system that gets rid of the timing window aspect, and the blobbing will take a sharp downturn.
Timers don't cause blobbing, its the huge amounts of HP. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1682
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:06:00 -
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Andski wrote:MeBiatch wrote:some PL guy came up with a really good idea for fixing sov... it had to do with capital system for every constilation to take sov for the whole constilation you would have to have one big fight for the capital (which would still lead to mind slow lag)
but there would be loads of fun leading up to that in the form of enhanced FW plexes that would have to be taken to secure outer lining systems. you've played long enough to know that that suggestion is literally pre-dominion sov
tbh the pos bowling system was better. then domi system
here is the link: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=266270&find=unread
i like this idea the best... There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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