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Paragannon
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:08:00 -
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This is terrible, as if the meta was not bad enough, drone assist, drone assist, drone assist, drone assist, a ******** mechanic that makes fleets nothing more than 1 homogeneous goo where the FC presses a button once every 30 seconds and the rest of the fleet watches a movie, or even worse, PLAYS OTHER GAMES.
They have to do this in 0.01% tidi. Its the most demoralizing, unfun thing ever.
Dont get me wrong i love this game, I have been in many large battles that really make my heart pump, especially if u are in some expensive ship that u really don't want to loose.
The battle is not over but n3pl will surely come out in front, because it is completely unthinkable to jump anything more into this fight, why would we? No one is having fun.
It comes to a point where the brave dread pilots, the small portion of total caps that were given the order to jump, either die before they jump and load grid, or load grid and wish to die to get out of this cursed system after 5 hours of boredom and 2 CYCLES OF GUNS.
This war seems to be far from over, as for the will to fight of the pilots on both sides, and the fun they are getting out of the game? I guess every1 knows the answer to that.
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Wolf Kruol
Destructive Influence Northern Coalition.
51
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:16:00 -
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Agreed with OP,
This is nonsense expectations for EVE's future. I'm still waiting to get back into the battle.. **** at this point I don't care if goons kills me so I can just get back to GXK...
BUT I CAN'T log on...
So CCP ether move me to Keberz or kill me.. Ya I petitioned CCP to kill me so I can get back to playing eve... HED is DEAD! GÇ£If you're very very stupid? How can you possibly realize you're very very stupid?
You have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you really are!GÇ¥ |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9872
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:19:00 -
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Wolf Kruol wrote:Agreed with OP,
This is nonsense expectations for EVE's future. I'm still waiting to get back into the battle.. **** at this point I don't care if goons kills me so I can just get back to GXK...
BUT I CAN'T log on...
So CCP ether move me to Keberz or kill me.. Ya I petitioned CCP to kill me so I can get back to playing eve... HED is DEAD!
I wouldn't bother, only titan DDs seem to be working now. The dreads were lost the second they jumped. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
327
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:19:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:said it once, will say again:
the root cause is that the sov system rewards blobbing in the form of timers and timing windows.
come up with a system that gets rid of the timing window aspect, and the blobbing will take a sharp downturn. Timers don't cause blobbing, its the huge amounts of HP.
it's timers because they dictate a time and place for people to create the largest possible blobs of the largest possible stuff. |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1138
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:21:00 -
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WarFireV wrote:In times of war their can often be hostile relations between both sides. Forum spam, local bashing, lolgaming news sites, we have all seen it.
But today I feel everyone can come together, who right now, fight against each other in HED-GP. Everyone can come to an agreement on one thing.
Fix Sov
This is terrible, this is not epic, this is not grand, this is not amazing. This is just putting a gun to the head of a blind an deaf man and yet this is also EvEs largest capital battle ever.
While the battle today is not the fault of CCP, we are merely people playing the game you created for us, it can at lest put a remind that something more needs to be done perhaps. The server can not handle these battles yet, but sov dictates they have to happen to take a single system.
I am not here to tell you how it can be done, CCP knows the code better then I and know what is possible and what is not. I just want to say that the current Sov system(which has been around longer then POS sov system of old) is sub-optimal to the current EvE player base.
THen why in hell everytime someone suggest changes to move sov in favor of more smaller scaled engagements with valid small scale targets that hurt the sov.. both sides.. yours and yoru enemy call thes epeopel stupid?
No.. you do not want fun fights. You like the status quo... you want that.. and now you pay for it with fights that are not fun at all. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |

Wolf Kruol
Destructive Influence Northern Coalition.
52
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:21:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Wolf Kruol wrote:Agreed with OP,
This is nonsense expectations for EVE's future. I'm still waiting to get back into the battle.. **** at this point I don't care if goons kills me so I can just get back to GXK...
BUT I CAN'T log on...
So CCP ether move me to Keberz or kill me.. Ya I petitioned CCP to kill me so I can get back to playing eve... HED is DEAD! I wouldn't bother, only titan DDs seem to be working now. The dreads were lost the second they jumped. I was lost the second I jumped from Keberz to HED 4 hours ago in and endless tunnel.. My mistake was to reset my client hoping to get a fresh log in..
GÇ£If you're very very stupid? How can you possibly realize you're very very stupid?
You have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you really are!GÇ¥ |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9872
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:23:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:
it's timers because they dictate a time and place for people to create the largest possible blobs of the largest possible stuff.
We wouldn't need blobs if it wasn't for the huge amounts of HP we need to burn through. Todays fight only happened because the N3/PL capital blob waited around for us. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion
207
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:24:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:WarFireV wrote:In times of war their can often be hostile relations between both sides. Forum spam, local bashing, lolgaming news sites, we have all seen it.
But today I feel everyone can come together, who right now, fight against each other in HED-GP. Everyone can come to an agreement on one thing.
Fix Sov
This is terrible, this is not epic, this is not grand, this is not amazing. This is just putting a gun to the head of a blind an deaf man and yet this is also EvEs largest capital battle ever.
While the battle today is not the fault of CCP, we are merely people playing the game you created for us, it can at lest put a remind that something more needs to be done perhaps. The server can not handle these battles yet, but sov dictates they have to happen to take a single system.
I am not here to tell you how it can be done, CCP knows the code better then I and know what is possible and what is not. I just want to say that the current Sov system(which has been around longer then POS sov system of old) is sub-optimal to the current EvE player base. THen why in hell everytime someone suggest changes to move sov in favor of more smaller scaled engagements with valid small scale targets that hurt the sov.. both sides.. yours and yoru enemy call thes epeopel stupid? No.. you do not want fun fights. You like the status quo... you want that.. and now you pay for it with fights that are not fun at all.
Bro me and my people? This is about togetherness over something that is broken not about stupid propaganda. |

Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
327
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:24:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:
it's timers because they dictate a time and place for people to create the largest possible blobs of the largest possible stuff.
We wouldn't need blobs if it wasn't for the huge amounts of HP we need to burn through. Todays fight only happened because the N3/PL capital blob waited around for us.
They waited around?
Was it for a timer to end?....... |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
2228
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:25:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Mr LaboratoryRat wrote:Blue standings vs another corp/Alliance should cost isk. More blues = more tax.
Thats all im saying, think about it. that's just going to create third party junk to replace blue standings and nothing will be resolved. set standings on third party website system, import your local list and it'll tell you who is and isn't blue... no tax paid. in fact, i'm pretty sure there are already tools that do this. from what i heard the standings and little coloured squares were created in response to players already doing the same with their own tools |
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
2228
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:26:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:it's timers because they dictate a time and place for people to create the largest possible blobs of the largest possible stuff. no, timers just allow the two fleets to be in the same place at the same time |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9872
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:26:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:They waited around? Was it for a timer to end?....... 
They wanted a capital fight.
What we got was something nobody wanted or enjoyed. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
563
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:31:00 -
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Wolf Kruol wrote: I was lost the second I jumped from Keberz to HED 4 hours ago in and endless tunnel.. My mistake was to reset my client hoping to get a fresh log in..
Haha.. I'm debating the same idea, to reset, or not to reset as I'm suffering from the black screen of death. I think I'll just let it go after reading your comment.
Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet |

Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
327
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:32:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:it's timers because they dictate a time and place for people to create the largest possible blobs of the largest possible stuff. no, timers just allow the two fleets to be in the same place at the same time
*facepalm*
0/10 troll, too obvious.
nobody can be this stupid. |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
2228
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:40:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:it's timers because they dictate a time and place for people to create the largest possible blobs of the largest possible stuff. no, timers just allow the two fleets to be in the same place at the same time *facepalm* 0/10 troll, too obvious. nobody can be this stupid. i can imagine how a person ignorant carebear who's never left concord's teet wouldn't realise this but timers are the way to facilitate important fights in a single sharded game across multiple timezones
they allow fights to happen at all scales, instead of structure pingpong which'd be the shitfest happening if timers didn't exist |

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1986
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:45:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:gotta say i'm watching a stream and it basically looks like 4000 pilots afk in bubbles. there's literally nothing visually interesting happening.
how you guys sit and tolerate this **** i'll never know.
Because they are told to. These poor people would rather be part of a huge clusterfuck, wasting their time, as opposed to actually DOING something in the game. Their emotional state cries out for acceptance in a large group, at the cost of anything else.
If their hive mind was not so dangerous for the rest of Eve's gameplay, I would pity them. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |

Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
328
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:45:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:it's timers because they dictate a time and place for people to create the largest possible blobs of the largest possible stuff. no, timers just allow the two fleets to be in the same place at the same time *facepalm* 0/10 troll, too obvious. nobody can be this stupid. i can imagine how a person ignorant carebear who's never left concord's teet wouldn't realise this but timers are the way to facilitate important fights in a single sharded game across multiple timezones they allow fights to happen at all scales, instead of structure pingpong which'd be the shitfest happening if timers didn't exist
cute argument, except that it suggests that the only possible alternative to the current system is a "structure ping pong"
naive at best, dumb as crap at worst. |

Dave Stark
4251
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:50:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Dave Stark wrote:gotta say i'm watching a stream and it basically looks like 4000 pilots afk in bubbles. there's literally nothing visually interesting happening.
how you guys sit and tolerate this **** i'll never know. Because they are told to. These poor people would rather be part of a huge clusterfuck, wasting their time, as opposed to actually DOING something in the game. Their emotional state cries out for acceptance in a large group, at the cost of anything else. If their hive mind was not so dangerous for the rest of Eve's gameplay, I would pity them.
ok freud, calm down. |

Ivory Kantenu
Sons of The Forge SpaceMonkey's Alliance
62
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Posted - 2014.01.18 21:52:00 -
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Sadly, the only thing these fights are good for these days are pretty screenshots. 
http://i.imgur.com/iD5Kfop.png Learn the basics of Wormhole Selling: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101693&find=unread
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10040
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Posted - 2014.01.18 22:00:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Because they are told to. These poor people would rather be part of a huge clusterfuck, wasting their time, as opposed to actually DOING something in the game. Their emotional state cries out for acceptance in a large group, at the cost of anything else.
If their hive mind was not so dangerous for the rest of Eve's gameplay, I would pity them.
thank you for these invaluable insights into the mentality of the nullsec player who is deluded enough to enjoy large fights more than, say, full spectrum mission running Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
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Doji Okakura
229
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Posted - 2014.01.18 22:01:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:wasting their time Peons flock together. Anyone with half a brain isn't in sov and wants nothing to do with it. |

Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
694
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Posted - 2014.01.18 22:01:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Too many caps, too many caps on all sides.
Two whole fleets of pretty much useless domis didn't help your dlreads on their jump in. We're winning the war if it says so on CAOD! -á
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10040
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Posted - 2014.01.18 22:01:00 -
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"the absolute best way to enjoy eve online is 23/7 L4 grinding" ~ dinsdale piranha Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
2228
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Posted - 2014.01.18 22:05:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:cute argument, except that it suggests that the only possible alternative to the current system is a "structure ping pong"
naive at best, dumb as crap at worst. i am awaiting your no-doubt brilliant idea for creating opportunity and necessity for defending and attacking fleets to engage each other over structures without need for timers (which you have claimed to be the cause of enormous unmanageable fleets with no justification and contrary to people whose opinions actually count for something)
i do not expect much |

Dave Stark
4251
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Posted - 2014.01.18 22:06:00 -
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Andski wrote:"the absolute best way to enjoy eve online is 23/7 Armour Incursions" ~ dinsdale piranha
think that might be a tad more accurate. |

Paul Tsukaya
Dirt 'n' Glitter I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
67
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Posted - 2014.01.18 22:07:00 -
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It would be pretty sweet if the servers could handle it.
They can't.
Oh well. |

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1988
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Posted - 2014.01.18 22:08:00 -
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Andski wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Because they are told to. These poor people would rather be part of a huge clusterfuck, wasting their time, as opposed to actually DOING something in the game. Their emotional state cries out for acceptance in a large group, at the cost of anything else.
If their hive mind was not so dangerous for the rest of Eve's gameplay, I would pity them. thank you for these invaluable insights into the mentality of the nullsec player who is deluded enough to enjoy large fights more than, say, full spectrum mission running
I anyone "enjoyed" that fight , then they more than likely "enjoy" being beaten and whipped in some BDSM club. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |

Whitmore
Far East Inc Darkness of Despair
47
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Posted - 2014.01.18 22:10:00 -
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This guy just say what we all think.
That was bad.
P.S. 5 hours in jump-in tunnel and being damaged.. |

Thead Enco
Killing is Business Get Off My Lawn
62
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Posted - 2014.01.18 22:10:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: Their emotional state cries out for acceptance in a large group, at the cost of anything else.
Must of been "That guy" in high school who had their school clothes thrown into the "showers" during gym class on a daily basis.....
"Any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king."
Tywin Lannister-á |

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1988
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Posted - 2014.01.18 22:14:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Andski wrote:"the absolute best way to enjoy eve online is 23/7 Armour Incursions" ~ dinsdale piranha think that might be a tad more accurate.
Actually, it is more like low sec exploration and ratting (love those clone tags) / dodging gatecamps in low sec while moving stuff / mission running / incursions / wildly insane forum posting 23/7. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
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