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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Hello-There
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Posted - 2014.03.05 21:08:00 -
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I would be in favour of a 'Letter of Recommendation' mechanism that pushed LP up to the Faction level allowing players to aggregate into Navy faction stuff, implants etc if they so wish. Making it tradeable above and beyond the listed goods at the corp/faction they were earned from just turns them directly into yet another form of currency. |
Hesod Adee
Kiwis In Space
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Posted - 2014.03.05 21:26:00 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:I would be in favour of a 'Letter of Recommendation' mechanism that pushed LP up to the Faction level allowing players to aggregate into Navy faction stuff, implants etc if they so wish. Making it tradeable above and beyond the listed goods at the corp/faction they were earned from just turns them directly into yet another form of currency. LP is already used as a currency by both capsuleers and NPCs. Starting from the moment the NPC corp pays the capsuleer in LP. When we cash out LP, we don't buy stuff to use directly, we buy stuff that we can see for ISK.
The only difference between LP and a currency is that we can't trade it between each other. |
Batelle
HOMELE55
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Posted - 2014.03.05 21:58:00 -
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Really simple:
Make an LP store offer that sucks up a tiny bit of isk and returns you an LP token redeemable for 95% of the LP used to acquire it. Sell token. Would require adding a different token with each npc corp that has an LP store, which could suck a bit. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:26:00 -
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Making loyalty points acceptable within each faction ie amarr constructions, tradeable with amarr navy. Would allow a lot of spread LP to be consolidated to purchase something useful, works for concord LP why not for others? While i am not against having them tradeable, it could have economy balance implications and therefore could require more work than is justifiable for the gain. There's a lot than can be addressed with improving LP that would have a greater benefit to all, for example addressing the tag requirements that haven't changed with the FW changes and change in availability.
Tl;dr Allow use of faction LP in the same faction store. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
Hesod Adee
Kiwis In Space
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Posted - 2014.03.06 01:08:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:While i am not against having them tradeable, it could have economy balance implications and therefore could require more work than is justifiable for the gain. When it comes down to it, the main cause of any change will be the change in people who are cashing out LP. Currently everyone, no matter how little they know about the Eve economy, has to cash out their LP themselves. So they make mistakes. With LP trading, the people who earn the LP sell it to players who know what they are doing and those players cash it out.
So any effects will be very similar to if CCP manages to educate everyone regarding the best way to cash out LP. If the economy is so fragile that educating the population is a problem, then the economy has serious issues. So, unless the economy has problems, I don't see how LP trading could cause any problems either.
Maybe CCP will need to tweak LP store prices. But that's it. |
Your Dad Naked
State War Academy Caldari State
143
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Posted - 2014.03.06 03:12:00 -
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It could work, wouldn't make sense for the lore but who cares.
First thing they need to do is diversify the LP stores, though. Military divisions should not be offering the same wares as manufacturing conglomerates. |
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.06 04:03:00 -
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LP is renamed scrip or corporate credit. Lore issue resolved. |
Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
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Posted - 2014.03.06 04:10:00 -
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Tsobai Hashimoto wrote:Swiftstrike1 wrote:-1
LP are awarded for loyalty. It doesn't make sense for the corporation in question to payout if some complete stranger walks into the LP store with your loyalty points. If it worked like that then A) why can I swap back in forth between minnies and amarr or caldari FW all I want? or even gal if i join a corp.... B) why can i still dock in Hek TLF, and spend my minnie LP WHILE in Amarr FW, and currently killing Minnies, even wanted by the faction police, that cant seem to dock in Hek TLF where they are stationed from LOL EVE has no LORE Because if the game worked the way lore would have it players would whine and ***** that the game has too many restrictionsand makes it hard for noobs. Novis Initiis is Recruting-á --á Ideas for Drone Improvement |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Hello-There
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Posted - 2014.03.06 09:26:00 -
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Maybe I'm just an old |RPG player at heart but I'd prefer the lore to be tied in more through changing Epic Arc mission cycles and such.
In terms of LP I thought they kept it distinct from ISK so that players *had* to gather them to gather some specific items as with the SoE ships when they were released. If LP were tradeable anyone with them would simply have sold to the highest bidder who would effective;ly have been buying the ship. As it was the whole LP mechanism provided CCP with a great means to introduce new faction items and drive players to specific locations, with then provided more conflict as the mission runners got jumped more often.
LP is a different mechanism to ISK for a reason I think and making it tradeable would simply negate that difference. |
Major Trant
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.03.06 10:33:00 -
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I've got little bits of LP scattered around dozens of corp on various characters. However, while it would be nice for me to be able to convert and use them, this suggestion comes with the problem that everyone else will also be able to do this. It will result in more LP coming into use, prices of LP goods will generally go down and the distinction between working for different NPC corps will become blurred.
In short this suggestion amounts to a dumbing down of Eve. This game benefits the diligent and intellegent player. Those who do their research, plan their activities and put the work in where it is needed. But this suggestion caters to the:
"Wah Wah! I've screwed up and wasted my time on the wrong corp, make it easy CCP!" "There, there little boy, here you go, just convert your bad LP to good LP, simple!"
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Hesod Adee wrote:Two other beneficial side effects of an LP market: - Increased ISK sink from the taxes of the LP market. - High sec missioners now have more transparency about which corps are more profitable to run missions for, as the ISK:LP ratio is the main difference and it will now be visible. Which will lead to missioners spreading out a bit as where they clump up the oversupply will lead to lower ISK:LP ratios for that corp. Please use valid arguments to support your view, this is complete rubbish.
1. Making LP that is currently unused suddenly easy to convert and use is an Isk generater, not a sink, whether you tax it or not. 2. It is already easy to work out who is the best corp to work for and you have even linked a tool in the same post to do that for you. If people are too lazy to do that or can't be bothered to grind up the standings with a new corp, giving them access to items from other LP stores without having to grind the standing isn't going to encourage them to grind those standings.
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Hello-There
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Posted - 2014.03.06 10:45:00 -
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Major Trant wrote:...snippety snip
1. Making LP that is currently unused suddenly easy to convert and use is an Isk generater, not a sink, whether you tax it or not. 2. It is already easy to work out who is the best corp to work for and you have even linked a tool in the same post to do that for you. If people are too lazy to do that or can't be bothered to grind up the standings with a new corp, giving them access to items from other LP stores without having to grind the standing isn't going to encourage them to grind those standings.
Good summary that's what I've been trying to say in each of these LP trading threads, though I still wouldn't be averse to being able to push LP up to faction level. |
Vartan Sarkisian
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2014.03.06 13:24:00 -
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I'd like this to get rid of all that crap sub 100 LP that I have built up... or at least have the option to bin the LP.
+1 I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die. |
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
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Posted - 2014.03.06 13:49:00 -
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Noxisia Arkana wrote:+1 I have 10,000 LP in a faction that I will probably never mission for again. Plus I don't like market math, I'd rather someone just lowball me the value of my LP and reap the benefits of my laziness.
I sold a bunch of LP a year or two ago, to someone who was a pro LP trader. As I recall, she told me that she got something like 2.5 or 3 times as much out of it as I did, but I was perfectly okay with such a ratio, especially given that it actually involved a bunch of work for her, to figure out exactly what I should spend my LP on (various BPC and BPO, IIRC). All I had to do was fly to a few stations and spend the LP, then contract the stuff to the buyer. |
Hesod Adee
Kiwis In Space
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Posted - 2014.03.06 19:31:00 -
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Major Trant wrote:Please use valid arguments to support your view, this is complete rubbish.
1. Making LP that is currently unused suddenly easy to convert and use is an Isk generater, not a sink, whether you tax it or not.
ISK changing hands from one player to another is not an ISK generator. An ISK generator generates ISK. Meaning it creates new ISK.
An ISK sink destroys ISK. So any time an NPC takes ISK, that's an ISK sink.
Quote:2. It is already easy to work out who is the best corp to work for and you have even linked a tool in the same post to do that for you. If people are too lazy to do that or can't be bothered to grind up the standings with a new corp, giving them access to items from other LP stores without having to grind the standing isn't going to encourage them to grind those standings.
Or when the player is new and doesn't know those tools exist.
Though it doesn't help that those tools, or at least the better publicized ones, are not enough for reliable cashing out of LP. Look at the ISK:LP ratios on sell orders and you will get an item that nobody wants to buy. Look at the buy prices and you're not getting the optimal items. |
Hesod Adee
Kiwis In Space
290
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Posted - 2014.03.06 19:31:00 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:If LP were tradeable anyone with them would simply have sold to the highest bidder who would effective;ly have been buying the ship. As it was the whole LP mechanism provided CCP with a great means to introduce new faction items and drive players to specific locations, with then provided more conflict as the mission runners got jumped more often.
Players would still need to farm the LP. So they would still be driven to the valuable LP sources. |
Michael Ignis Archangel
Christe Eleison
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Posted - 2014.03.27 04:22:00 -
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+1, two conditions:
1) Cash-in for tokens, which are items. Destroyable, yet so, so compelling to move in a shuttle. 2) 75% conversion rate - and LP tokens must be fed into your journal before redemption by the purchasing party.
This way the ISK sink increases, lazy people get more ISK which they'll just waste anyway, and smart/enterprising pilots triumph over the lazy "as intended." |
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