lol-ganking is the issue.

The high sec people have problems with one kind of ganker.

A lol-gank is a pipe bomb tossed in the window of a school bus.
A dazzling display of skill and hard work. /spit

A ganker should play the damn game.
Be a hitman with a purpose and take real cold hard risks in the freaking game.

lol-ganking is the issue.

The high sec people have problems with one kind of ganker.

A lol-gank is a pipe bomb tossed in the window of a school bus.
A dazzling display of skill and hard work. /spit

A ganker should play the damn game.
Be a hitman with a purpose and take real cold hard risks in the freaking game.

K Suri is an obvious troll alt anyways, she even admitted it in another thread.

Set it up so that criminals/pirates that enter high sec and try to commit more crime will not ONLY be followed and attacked by concord or faction navies, but they will also be PODDED.

This will add in a bit more fear for the fearless clowns that think they can do whatever they want.

Also, set it up further so that anyone that commits crime in highsec is flagged by all of the factions, making ALL of highsec space lethal to them. Pirates shouldn't be allowed to roam Lawful space, that's what the "space police" are for.

How about this: Concord chases, Faction navies destroy and pod.

Maybe next you can ask for concord to mine for you.

Try harder, I don't mine and due to dicks like you I don't even play so just stfu chump.

Hehe :D

P.S. you are a loser

Mission accomplished!

Until Blizzard starts making a Space PVP game and a MMOFPS, CCP has got it covered and should try to remember WHY they're not taking a huge plunge like every other PVE fantasy mmo on that chart.

Your lol-ganker IS playing the game.

Perhaps you should roll the window up or upgrade your school bus.

What a loss of more time in your worthless life?

Or should it be "Wow. This is Eve"?

A common retort used by the highly intellectual types on Eve-O is "go play Wow" or "Wow is that way". This is usually in response to the cry to make some things safer in Eve.

Now I have mixed views as to the validity of "safeness" and I fully understand the ethos that is Eve. But you know, if I were a commercial entity trying to raise the subscriber base, I'd be seriously looking at games that make the serious coin.

Wow has more than 11 million subscribers, roughly 20 times more than Eve. I've never played the game but if I take the comments of "go play Wow" to mean a game that is "safe" or has "safe areas" then how come it's so big? One of the most successful MMO's ever to hit the big screen. I'm fully aware that it's not single shard and segmented economics would be a consequence, but this does not seem to hurt the game overall.

Would CCP be doing good for business by making areas - such as high-sec - a safer place to nurture and establish new players and corporations?

Of course, there are many arguments both for and against and as an avid reader of the many posts on the topics, I can only see the protection of an idealogy as the common response for the vast majority of "change nothing" posters.

Is this the right approach? Is this being childishly selfish?

Does Eve need to evolve, in some areas, to be more effective for CCP economically? Is this the plan?

Food for thought.

Besides, I have More important games to play.

the carbonization drought

Now I have mixed views as to the validity of "safeness" and I fully understand the ethos that is Eve. But you know, if I were a commercial entity trying to raise the subscriber base, I'd be seriously looking at games that make the serious coin.

Does Eve need to evolve, in some areas, to be more effective for CCP economically?

Is this the plan?

Try harder, I don't mine and due to dicks like you I don't even play so just stfu chump.

Hehe :D

P.S. you are a loser

No in that other thread he realized he was losing the argument and went into "lol guyz I was just trolling ju" mode to try and salvage some self respect.

Didn't read all these posts, don't have the time.

OP I certainly see your point though I'm going to say that I think the majority of the problem arises from newbie characters not being properly informed prior to getting out into the "big bad world"

However, I did it and learned and made myself better, there's nothing stopping other people. But, I'm the exception. I like playing dangerously and "fending for myself" so to say. A lot of casual players don't.

This is going to get flamed to hell, but what if new characters have two "tutorial" systems where the players learn everything from flying to scams to market to jumping to missions, and when they leave those systems they can't come back. They know the risks before they leave, and when they leave, they will have to look out for themselves. The tutorial systems will be super rare on resources (like two asteroids to practice mining on) and since you can't enter the system people wouldn't be able to get in there to make money off the market, and people in the system likely won't want to stick around because there would be an SP cap (say, 2mil sp before you're auto-moved out of the systems).

I think it'd solve a lot of problems. It'd give people a way to really learn the game without players trying to scam them out of the gate while keeping the viability of the game.

As to the wider point of casual gamers not wanting to fight for their life every day... well, that's kind-of the premise of the game. If you had 10% of the systems that you couldn't suicide gank in or anything, you'd have 500 miners and missioners in each one of those systems because they couldn't be suicide ganked, or people sitting in there getting their SP up in a perfectly safe environment. I'm not saying that it's a bad idea to have safe areas, but it needs to be done in a way so that people who play there are SEVERELY limited. The rest of us have to play dangerously and watch our backs, why do they not?

Edit: The solution to the vast majority of peoples' problems is to fly with friends, but lots of "casual" players in eve don't seem to want to do that. I don't get it.

WoW hate tears are the best non New Eden tears there are.

I always love how in EVERY MMO forum, INCLUDING WOW's, 90% of the time there are threads all about how much WoW sucks lol

If you had 10% of the systems that you couldn't suicide gank in or anything, you'd have 500 miners and missioners in each one of those systems because they couldn't be suicide ganked

or people sitting in there getting their SP up in a perfectly safe environment.