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Malphas Vynneve The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective 6	Posted - 2014.01.24 04:02:00 - [1] - Quote Before Rubicon, i could go out and spend 45 minutes and come back with anywhere from 30mil to 70mil. Now i spend 3 hours and don't find anything. Not one single data or relic site. Just combat sites and wormholes. This is really beginning to bug me. I mean. The data and relic sites in wormhole space are showing up just fine, no problems there, but in a helios, i'm not even about to think about going for them, what with sleepers. But when i go through 7 nullsec systems, i should find AT LEAST one data or relic site. These aren't like 0.0 nullsec systems either. these are -0.3 to -.06 systems. I don't know what CCP did to exploration, but they REALLY need to fix it. Exploration used to be my main source of income, now i spend days looking for even one data or relic site. I've already filed some support tickets, but apparently, they were ignored. Has anyone else been having this issue?
dexington Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1074	Posted - 2014.01.24 04:07:00 - [2] - Quote Have you tried taking a trip to low/null-sec, i have no problems with finding data/relic sites i low-sec. The area you are in now might just to to crowded with other explores, try going somewhere else. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 480	Posted - 2014.01.24 04:07:00 - [3] - Quote I believe it's simply down to an increase of players doing exploration. Ever since Rubicon, I noticed alot more people chattering about exploration & their found spoils. So can be down to that, more people, harder to find sites. Workings of the Aurora Arcology: Internal security divisions Gurista Capsuleers Spotted
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 187	Posted - 2014.01.24 04:09:00 - [4] - Quote Strange. The cloak scout/explorer on my 2nd account hasn't noticed any difference at least in Placid or Syndicate. I'm sure if they made a change it would have been across all systems, but the data and relic sites still seem to be there in the same abundance from what I've been doing (only about 25% of the time involved in exploration and the rest in pvp on that account).
Malphas Vynneve The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective 6	Posted - 2014.01.24 04:14:00 - [5] - Quote That's a logical explanation, but every single time i've tried exploration since Rubicon, this is how it's been. And i'm from Barleguet, so i'd have stuck to lowsec if there was anything there. Not only that, but i check Dotlan when i go into systems and half of them say no jumps within at least a day. But this has happened in every nullsec system i've popped my head into. Which is now 10 systems, still nothing but wormholes and combat sites.
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 8782	Posted - 2014.01.24 04:16:00 - [6] - Quote I used to call my Tengu "**** RNG" because I kept getting Dread Guristas spawns that would only drop tags and ammo. My EVE Videos
Malphas Vynneve The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective 6	Posted - 2014.01.24 04:17:00 - [7] - Quote lol
Tauranon Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere 655	Posted - 2014.01.24 04:23:00 - [8] - Quote You need to stop following other explorers, especially if you are slow at scanning.
Malphas Vynneve The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective 6	Posted - 2014.01.24 04:25:00 - [9] - Quote LOL, get back under your bridge, troll. Anyway, this makes 12 null systems.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 4197	Posted - 2014.01.24 04:38:00 - [10] - Quote Malphas Vynneve wrote: LOL, get back under your bridge, troll. Anyway, this makes 12 null systems. You are probably in someone's play pen. Find a new region.
Malphas Vynneve The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective 6	Posted - 2014.01.24 04:41:00 - [11] - Quote Yeah, i'm starting to think that. I've never gone 15 systems in a row and found nothing. Usually, it's a combined 15 systems from different regions, lol. But still, something changed after Rubicon. Whether that change is less exploration sites or more explorers. Methinks explo ganking might be the way to go now, lol. Cloak up at a data or relic site and gank anyone that comes by, then steal their loot, lol.
Tauranon Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere 655	Posted - 2014.01.24 04:46:00 - [12] - Quote Malphas Vynneve wrote: LOL, get back under your bridge, troll. Anyway, this makes 12 null systems. I once entered 90 systems (112 jumps if I recall including reverses) without finding a ded complex. It takes someone good 15 minutes to clear a relic and a data, so all you are doing is following someone an hour ahead of you. If you are in syndicate you are literally waiting for people in fountain and outer ring and whatever to send them back.
Peter Raptor Galactic Hawks 631	Posted - 2014.01.24 04:52:00 - [13] - Quote I had the same problem, went through about 50 nullsec systems, literally, and found very few data sites, maybe one relic site, after all that, the rewards were, pathetic, given up on exploration altogether. ps, losec data/relic site rewards are even worse... Evelopedia;-á The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á
Johan Civire The Lyran Empire 819	Posted - 2014.01.24 04:54:00 - [14] - Quote Mmm i dont have that problem. But i guess iam alone in my space for a very very very long time.
Keno Skir Vectis Covert Solutions 654	Posted - 2014.01.24 05:05:00 - [15] - Quote After Rubicon launched, tier3 Battlecruisers didn't show on my overview and had to be manually added again. I don't really explore but is it possible some setting somewhere has reverted so that kind of sig isn't showing for you? Seems weird ur the only one, 15 empty systems in a row and everyone else has noticed no change. BUDDY TRIALS - 21days + ISK bonus + Starting Assistance : https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=77facad8-d941-45ad-95bc-c1ec90919b6b&action=buddy Feel free to contact me with questions :)
Malphas Vynneve The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective 6	Posted - 2014.01.24 05:12:00 - [16] - Quote Peter Raptor wrote: I had the same problem, went through about 50 nullsec systems, literally, and found very few data sites, maybe one relic site, after all that, the rewards were, pathetic, given up on exploration altogether. ps, losec data/relic site rewards are even worse... See, that's how i feel. But then, one of my corpmates said he just found 4 sites in one system. So i'm just like wtf. I really like explo, but goddamn, lol.
Zappity Kurved Space 779	Posted - 2014.01.24 05:24:00 - [17] - Quote I can hardly move for all the exploration sites in lowsec. There are hundreds of them in each system! Well, almost hundreds. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 187	Posted - 2014.01.24 05:30:00 - [18] - Quote Zappity wrote: I can hardly move for all the exploration sites in lowsec. There are hundreds of them in each system! Well, almost hundreds. Over a calendar year, yep.
Malphas Vynneve The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective 6	Posted - 2014.01.24 05:30:00 - [19] - Quote Zappity wrote: I can hardly move for all the exploration sites in lowsec. There are hundreds of them in each system! Well, almost hundreds. lol, what neck of the woods are you in? i'm gonna have to come visit.
Dior Rellik NERFSQUAD 4	Posted - 2014.01.24 05:52:00 - [20] - Quote Malphas Vynneve wrote: Before Rubicon, i could go out and spend 45 minutes and come back with anywhere from 30mil to 70mil. Now i spend 3 hours and don't find anything. Not one single data or relic site. Just combat sites and wormholes. This is really beginning to bug me. I mean. The data and relic sites in wormhole space are showing up just fine, no problems there, but in a helios, i'm not even about to think about going for them, what with sleepers. But when i go through 7 nullsec systems, i should find AT LEAST one data or relic site. These aren't like 0.0 nullsec systems either. these are -0.3 to -.06 systems. I don't know what CCP did to exploration, but they REALLY need to fix it. Exploration used to be my main source of income, now i spend days looking for even one data or relic site. I've already filed some support tickets, but apparently, they were ignored. Has anyone else been having this issue? The issue isn't with sites spawning. It's purely to do with the fact that there are more "bears" in null sec than there is in high sec these days. Coalitions full of bears dude and they are raping the easy stuff because they don't like the hastle of spending 30mins+ in combat site. Minimum effort, maximum profit. Word!
I Love Boobies All Hail Boobies 986	Posted - 2014.01.24 06:15:00 - [21] - Quote The problem with exploration is CCP made it too easy when they removed the rats from data/relic sites, so anyone and everyone is going through Null Sec and Low Sec in their appropriately set up T3s and doing them. That is why you're not finding them, others have found them before you did.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 4197	Posted - 2014.01.24 07:24:00 - [22] - Quote Malphas Vynneve wrote: Yeah, i'm starting to think that. I've never gone 15 systems in a row and found nothing. Usually, it's a combined 15 systems from different regions, lol. But still, something changed after Rubicon. Whether that change is less exploration sites or more explorers. Methinks explo ganking might be the way to go now, lol. Cloak up at a data or relic site and gank anyone that comes by, then steal their loot, lol. Well that's the spirit. Some days it's sites galor, even when moving ships in the Forge regions, other days, nothing. Yeah they made exploration very easy - you simply have to wander more. That you can traverse so many systems shows you are not hugging a system or station, which is good. As for attacking exploration - well - first don't attack my ship! (shakes fist) but yeah, exploration is so beared up now it's incredible. Back in the day exploration sites were also combat sites. Let me tell you. I had to fight some hard-hitting rats up hill, both ways. In 3 feet of snow too. But it was nothing that a nullified T3 could not handle - except things changed a bit. The sites are easy easy now, no need to kill the rats you see, so it's all the more feasible to use a nullified T2 or even an intie (if you rig it for hacking even than it's iffy for the job) . But it's the inties you see. Belt ratting is bad news - even combat sites - intie swarms you see. So exploration is now the most risk free of the activities. So it's not like all of a sudden everybody wants to explore, it's just the with the intie changes and changes to exploration sites, it's now the least risky activity mainly because you can do them faster than other PVe content, make the loot, run off, and that's that. Like a wormhole to nullsec when I had my Astero. That was a fine ship let me tell you. Found a rare highsec to null WH and there was a covert site in there too - hacking even with the Astero and level 5 skills was not a short affair. But as soon as someone showed up, they KNEW how I got there, because the intel channels and gank pipelines never heard of me, so it just HAD to be a wormhole. I reached the wormhole just as 8 core probes were right on top of it. They didn't get the Astero - NPCs did that job a little while later. So the gist of this is, exploration is now the defacto "carebear activity" of nullsec. It's easier than running 4 of 10s with a Tengu - back before they got blocked from 4 of 10s, you could be in a DED 4 of 10 for around 10 seconds and there's the tengu going straight for the boss. So the same players are out there, carefully ensconced behind the gank pipelines and intel channels. So, maybe you should hunt the explorers? Well, my Astero won't be on your KB - Guristas did that -but that might have to be your thing. Maybe you should bring a stealth bomber, wait for them to hack the container, nuke them. From orbit even. They won't be going fast, that's for sure. When I drop bombs on gate camps I giggle like Loreena Bobbit in a sausage factory. So I'm sure a good time will be had by all. (if seeing you in local does not have them running and hiding - these are bears after all). Good luck.
Victor Andall Complexes and Abaddons 42	Posted - 2014.01.24 07:42:00 - [23] - Quote I Love Boobies wrote: The problem with exploration is CCP made it too easy when they removed the rats from data/relic sites, so anyone and everyone is going through Null Sec and Low Sec in their appropriately set up T3s and doing them. That is why you're not finding them, others have found them before you did. Yes, "everyone" is going in Strategic Cruisers. Because that's what a several hundred million piece of hardware is good for. Data and Relic sites. I do LowSec in an Imicus. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do? http://andallcombat.wordpress.com/current-tournament/
Sagara Shouhey Horse Forces 0	Posted - 2014.01.24 07:43:00 - [24] - Quote if you looking for data and\|or relic devoid is your choise, i scan five or six systems and found 10 or 11 data+relic so no problem here
Shvak The Warp Core Stabilizers Tactical Narcotics Team 39	Posted - 2014.01.24 07:56:00 - [25] - Quote I know it might sound stupid and you most likely do it anyway but hit "show" on your scan hud. Sometime the sites do not refresh into the hud properly. Just a thought. That said there are a lot less sites to find in nullsec especially. Does not mean they are not there but I am sure plex spawns were nerfed when rubicon was released. Also the amount of ammo and tags have increased vs good loot. With the ESS giving an obvious nerf in Rubicon 1.1 to bounties to tray and combat inflation one is guessing that a system where there is no hard data (plex spawns) would have been a first option at nerfing to reduce income
Berant toxicology 2	Posted - 2014.01.24 09:24:00 - [26] - Quote Shvak wrote: I know it might sound stupid and you most likely do it anyway but hit "show" on your scan hud. Sometime the sites do not refresh into the hud properly. Just a thought. That said there are a lot less sites to find in nullsec especially. Does not mean they are not there but I am sure plex spawns were nerfed when rubicon was released. Also the amount of ammo and tags have increased vs good loot. With the ESS giving an obvious nerf in Rubicon 1.1 to bounties to tray and combat inflation one is guessing that a system where there is no hard data (plex spawns) would have been a first option at nerfing to reduce income This. Also, if you're anything like me, and I hope for your sake you're not, I spent a dozen systems looking for Data Sites in LowSec until I realised I had the probe scan window set to Ships. Wasn't my finest hour...
Shvak The Warp Core Stabilizers Tactical Narcotics Team 39	Posted - 2014.01.24 09:32:00 - [27] - Quote Berant wrote: Shvak wrote: I know it might sound stupid and you most likely do it anyway but hit "show" on your scan hud. Sometime the sites do not refresh into the hud properly. Just a thought. That said there are a lot less sites to find in nullsec especially. Does not mean they are not there but I am sure plex spawns were nerfed when rubicon was released. Also the amount of ammo and tags have increased vs good loot. With the ESS giving an obvious nerf in Rubicon 1.1 to bounties to tray and combat inflation one is guessing that a system where there is no hard data (plex spawns) would have been a first option at nerfing to reduce income This. Also, if you're anything like me, and I hope for your sake you're not, I spent a dozen systems looking for Data Sites in LowSec until I realised I had the probe scan window set to Ships. Wasn't my finest hour... Got the T-Shirt for that as well
Ryder 'ook Die..Brut 43	Posted - 2014.01.24 09:39:00 - [28] - Quote I'm very glad I'm not the only one who catches himself blundering about like this! Props to both of you! Every atom in our bodies was forged in the furnace of ancient stars - it's time we return home.
Ptraci 3 R Corporation Boarderline Cartel 1716	Posted - 2014.01.24 09:50:00 - [29] - Quote Malphas Vynneve wrote: Before Rubicon, i could go out and spend 45 minutes and come back with anywhere from 30mil to 70mil. Now i spend 3 hours and don't find anything. Not one single data or relic site. Just combat sites and wormholes. This is really beginning to bug me. You do realize that other people are out there running sites too, right? The early bird gets the worm, so to speak. If all you find are wormholes and combat sites I would think that either the non random number generator is being unkind to you or someone is getting into those systems and running the sites before you are. Get out earlier, or change location, or better still - find out who it is and kill them.
Ruskarn Andedare Lion Investments 408	Posted - 2014.01.24 10:05:00 - [30] - Quote Shvak wrote: Berant wrote: Shvak wrote: I know it might sound stupid and you most likely do it anyway but hit "show" on your scan hud. Sometime the sites do not refresh into the hud properly. Just a thought. That said there are a lot less sites to find in nullsec especially. Does not mean they are not there but I am sure plex spawns were nerfed when rubicon was released. Also the amount of ammo and tags have increased vs good loot. With the ESS giving an obvious nerf in Rubicon 1.1 to bounties to tray and combat inflation one is guessing that a system where there is no hard data (plex spawns) would have been a first option at nerfing to reduce income This. Also, if you're anything like me, and I hope for your sake you're not, I spent a dozen systems looking for Data Sites in LowSec until I realised I had the probe scan window set to Ships. Wasn't my finest hour... Got the T-Shirt for that as well oh yeah, been there, done that too. Also when you get a no scan results on the scan window it's worthwhile closing it and reopening it, there seems to be some sort of caching error there.
Sura Sadiva Entropic Tactical Crew 1045	Posted - 2014.01.24 12:53:00 - [31] - Quote I don't think the sites spawn rate is changed, neither is the loot. Problem is the major nerf to exploration done Odissey (not in rubicon). Basically they lowered the entry level for exploration making it trivial. This mean: more people running sites and more exploration loot on the market. Before Odissey a good exploration ship was all-in-one pilgrim or T3. Now you can do everything non-combat (in low as in null) in T2 frigate. And they also simplificated all and pumped in the game overpowered faction ships (less skill points) just designed for this. So as profession now is more trivial, less challenging and less profitable. They sold Odissey to us as a new exploration era, a revamp and bla bla. But the truth is: when you make something trivial or easy is always a nerf.
Silvetica Dian Manson Family Advent of Fate 642	Posted - 2014.01.24 15:37:00 - [32] - Quote Malphas Vynneve wrote: Before Rubicon, i could go out and spend 45 minutes and come back with anywhere from 30mil to 70mil. Now i spend 3 hours and don't find anything. Not one single data or relic site. Just combat sites and wormholes. This is really beginning to bug me. I mean. The data and relic sites in wormhole space are showing up just fine, no problems there, but in a helios, i'm not even about to think about going for them, what with sleepers. But when i go through 7 nullsec systems, i should find AT LEAST one data or relic site. These aren't like 0.0 nullsec systems either. these are -0.3 to -.06 systems. I don't know what CCP did to exploration, but they REALLY need to fix it. Exploration used to be my main source of income, now i spend days looking for even one data or relic site. I've already filed some support tickets, but apparently, they were ignored. Has anyone else been having this issue? can we swop space? you take my relic sites i take your combat sites. here is a list of all the fiat currencies that didn't end up at zero value.....and here is a list of the places where a currency pegged to a real commodity has successfully co-existed with compound interest....-á Here is a physics professor explaining why sustainable growth isn't a thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY
Xavier Quo Ashfell Celestial Corporation POD-SQUAD 73	Posted - 2014.01.24 16:10:00 - [33] - Quote Noticed similar, but I think it's just the RNG or just being behind someone doing exactly the same thing as you on a similar route However it is a real shame there is no non-combat exploration content in wormholes.
Seven Koskanaiken Sons Of Saints Circle-Of-Two 749	Posted - 2014.01.24 16:24:00 - [34] - Quote Stay out of drone and angel space, in my experience they are bad for hacking.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 437	Posted - 2014.01.24 16:32:00 - [35] - Quote I Love Boobies wrote: The problem with exploration is CCP made it too easy when they removed the rats from data/relic sites, so anyone and everyone is going through Null Sec and Low Sec in their appropriately set up T3s and doing them. That is why you're not finding them, others have found them before you did. This. Every once in a while I go on an exploration safari bawls deep into null in a cloaky interdiction-nullified T3 to work relic sites. When I do find them, the juicy blueprint drops are few and far between and the other drops are just 'ok'. Not exciting or compelling enough to do regularly IMHO. Can't imagine doing this in hi or lowsec at all. The spawns should be more frequent though, and as soon as someone lands on a site a collapse timer should immediately start, as scanning down a site where some tool just worked the good cans and left the crap behind is VERY annoying. Would you like to know more?
Angelica Dreamstar Epic Boo Bees 310	Posted - 2014.01.24 16:40:00 - [36] - Quote Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: I Love Boobies wrote: The problem with exploration is CCP made it too easy when they removed the rats from data/relic sites, so anyone and everyone is going through Null Sec and Low Sec in their appropriately set up T3s and doing them. That is why you're not finding them, others have found them before you did. This. Every once in a while I go on an exploration safari bawls deep into null in a cloaky interdiction-nullified T3 to work relic sites. When I do find them, the juicy blueprint drops are few and far between and the other drops are just 'ok'. Not exciting or compelling enough to do regularly IMHO. Can't imagine doing this in hi or lowsec at all. The spawns should be more frequent though, and as soon as someone lands on a site a collapse timer should immediately start, as scanning down a site where some tool just worked the good cans and left the crap behind is VERY annoying. And because it's annoying, it should stay as it is. Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0!
Billy McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 96	Posted - 2014.01.24 16:43:00 - [37] - Quote Sura Sadiva wrote: I don't think the sites spawn rate is changed, neither is the loot. Problem is the major nerf to exploration done Odissey (not in rubicon). Basically they lowered the entry level for exploration making it trivial. This mean: more people running sites and more exploration loot on the market. Before Odissey a good exploration ship was all-in-one pilgrim or T3. Now you can do everything non-combat (in low as in null) in T2 frigate. And they also simplificated all and pumped in the game overpowered faction ships (less skill points) just designed for this. So as profession now is more trivial, less challenging and less profitable. They sold Odissey to us as a new exploration era, a revamp and bla bla. But the truth is: when you make something trivial or easy is always a nerf. I and some friends buff them with Stealth Bombers and Bombs
Blood Viper Johnson 25	Posted - 2014.01.24 20:07:00 - [38] - Quote not sure about you,but i gain 1-2 bil per day on relics in paragon and isoteria,drop always cool
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 439	Posted - 2014.01.24 20:13:00 - [39] - Quote Blood Viper Johnson wrote: not sure about you,but i gain 1-2 bil per day on relics in paragon and isoteria,drop always cool Is this normally shortly after downtime? Not sure how the spawns of relics work but I always seem to get pwnzored on the drops betwixt 16:00-02:00 EvE going through Stain, Period Basis, Parago and Esoteria... :( Would you like to know more?
PotatoOverdose Handsome Millionaire Playboys 956	Posted - 2014.01.24 22:09:00 - [40] - Quote Basically, exploration has no barrier to entry for any of its sites, even the high end ones. Which means any random dude older than a week can (and probably will) run the sites. This leads to all of the sites being depleted and all of the exploration loot being dirt cheap.
Brink Albosa Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo 14	Posted - 2014.01.24 22:52:00 - [41] - Quote There's a small loop I do near where I live and I still find the same amount of exploration sites as before. There are so many explorers now.
Malphas Vynneve The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective 6	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:17:00 - [42] - Quote Yeah, i've started giving up on wormholes, since every nullsec area of systems i check out have ben emptied already. I actually went over a few systems from barle and found some really nice sites with about 80mil worth inside each. Of course, i got caught in a 4 man gatecamp with bubbles... but that's neither here nor there.
Charles Wu-Wong Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 45	Posted - 2014.01.25 14:27:00 - [43] - Quote Malphas Vynneve wrote: That's a logical explanation, but every single time i've tried exploration since Rubicon, this is how it's been. And i'm from Barleguet, so i'd have stuck to lowsec if there was anything there. Not only that, but i check Dotlan when i go into systems and half of them say no jumps within at least a day. But this has happened in every nullsec system i've popped my head into. Which is now 10 systems, still nothing but wormholes and combat sites. ...You do realise that there has recently been a drive by many members of our alliance (myself included) to push newbies into exploration? It's part of the reason there are less sites to be found, more people are running them. If you want huge amounts of sites head up to Cloud Ring, it's literally empty for the most part.
Malphas Vynneve The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective 6	Posted - 2014.01.25 16:48:00 - [44] - Quote I never actually said anything about where exactly i was exploring. I also mentioned that there wasn't much left around Barleguet. So yeah, keep up with the conversation. But thanks for the tip about cloud ring.
Little Dragon Khamez Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition 958	Posted - 2014.01.25 22:43:00 - [45] - Quote Malphas Vynneve wrote: Before Rubicon, i could go out and spend 45 minutes and come back with anywhere from 30mil to 70mil. Now i spend 3 hours and don't find anything. Not one single data or relic site. Just combat sites and wormholes. This is really beginning to bug me. I mean. The data and relic sites in wormhole space are showing up just fine, no problems there, but in a helios, i'm not even about to think about going for them, what with sleepers. But when i go through 7 nullsec systems, i should find AT LEAST one data or relic site. These aren't like 0.0 nullsec systems either. these are -0.3 to -.06 systems. I don't know what CCP did to exploration, but they REALLY need to fix it. Exploration used to be my main source of income, now i spend days looking for even one data or relic site. I've already filed some support tickets, but apparently, they were ignored. Has anyone else been having this issue? Have you been sleeping under a rock? Oddessy killed exploration by giving you a survey scanner that hands everything to you on a plate. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Katran Luftschreck Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps 2245	Posted - 2014.01.25 23:09:00 - [46] - Quote See what happened is the coke-head over in marketing (who never actually plays EvE) read a magazine article on the growth "casual gaming" and demanded that we add some kind of Peggle crap into EvE somewhere. The actual developers, trying to worm their way out of this horrible decision being forced on them, went and stuffed his horrible ideas into the exploration mechanics, reasoning that it already kind of sucked so making it suck even worse would cause the least amount of grief. Next year we'll probably see some sort of mini-game added to warp scramblers or something. Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 4203	Posted - 2014.01.26 03:47:00 - [47] - Quote Katran Luftschreck wrote: See what happened is the coke-head over in marketing (who never actually plays EvE) read a magazine article on the growth "casual gaming" and demanded that we add some kind of Peggle crap into EvE somewhere. The actual developers, trying to worm their way out of this horrible decision being forced on them, went and stuffed his horrible ideas into the exploration mechanics, reasoning that it already kind of sucked so making it suck even worse would cause the least amount of grief. Next year we'll probably see some sort of mini-game added to warp scramblers or something. Yeah of all things to get a minigame. If they minigamed mining it would be the death of multiboxing and botting in such epic proportions that our planet would be a water planet from all those tears by now. I don't hate the exploration mini game much, giving me something to do while the hack cycles, but lag during the mini-game drives me up the wall.
Felicity Love Whore and Peace Forsaken Asylum 1467	Posted - 2014.01.26 03:53:00 - [48] - Quote Malphas Vynneve wrote: I don't know what CCP did to exploration, but they REALLY need to fix it. Exploration used to be my main source of income, now i spend days looking for even one data or relic site. I've already filed some support tickets, but apparently, they were ignored. Has anyone else been having this issue? grrrrrrrrr... Null Bears are taking all the good sites. Can't have a proper Apocalypse without "The Man", Johnny Cash. -áTrue story.

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