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Dmitry Wizard THE AESIR. Ragnarok. 178	Posted - 2014.01.30 05:41:00 - [1] - Quote its stated in the attributes that it has to be activated at least 300oo km from a gate or station... so why does this thing have the abillity to be anchored 5 km from a wormhole? not only does it have a warp distruption bubble on it (i can deal with that) but it broadcasts IN LOCAL who has jumped into the wormhole its anchored on EVE System > Dmitry Wizard is now in proximity of the Encounter Surveilance System keep this crap in null and get it off my wormholes! these kinds of things make me think CCP hates us "Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids"
Ari Kelor Promethean Society Ragnarok. 2	Posted - 2014.01.30 05:46:00 - [2] - Quote I second this idea and/or service
calaretu Honestly We didnt know Surely You're Joking 49	Posted - 2014.01.30 06:25:00 - [3] - Quote This need to be threadnoughted. Ccp please fix this
Derath Ellecon Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal 2009	Posted - 2014.01.30 06:28:00 - [4] - Quote I must be getting old. I didn't even think to try this. Hopefully this will be patched out soon.
Chancey Pants Flying With Animals Animal Farms 17	Posted - 2014.01.30 06:36:00 - [5] - Quote Well kinda agree. However it is not much harder to kill than a large bubble, but costs 25 mil. So if the null bears wanna throw me a few free kill mails I will take what I can get. Honestly if they think it is easier to anchor one of these than to actually close the hole of put ears on it then whatever. Let them think they are super smart. Already local ruins most of the element of surprise, and it has been proven we can still get kills out of the ones who don't use that to their advantage. Sure now they know exactly where you jump in from. Probably you would not be catching the ones with enough sense to employ this method in the first place though. Honestly I was kinda hoping to drop some of my own on occasion in hopes of enticing a fight.
Dmitry Wizard THE AESIR. Ragnarok. 178	Posted - 2014.01.30 06:40:00 - [6] - Quote its not about the kill mail or it being hard to kill. i dont have local for a reason. this thing broadcasting HES IN YOUR WORMHOLE!!!!!!! is what bothers me "Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids"
Chancey Pants Flying With Animals Animal Farms 17	Posted - 2014.01.30 06:49:00 - [7] - Quote Maybe I am missing something. You can actually anchor inside of a wormhole?
Dmitry Wizard THE AESIR. Ragnarok. 178	Posted - 2014.01.30 06:52:00 - [8] - Quote yes you can anchor it 5 km off of a wormhole. it has a 30 km diameter warp distruption bubble. as sooon as someone is seen by this thing it also broadcasts IN LOCAL " Dmitry Wizard is now in proximity of the ESS" therefore. if you have this on your hole and I jump in it tells you in local that dmitry wizard is in your hole and you should warp your 5 billion isk golem out of your c3 plex "Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids"
Chancey Pants Flying With Animals Animal Farms 17	Posted - 2014.01.30 06:55:00 - [9] - Quote Well that takes all the fun out of these then.
Lakshata Chawla Blue-Fire 85	Posted - 2014.01.30 07:02:00 - [10] - Quote The real question is, should I abuse this until it's fixed?
SoulRipper666 Blue-Fire 7	Posted - 2014.01.30 07:05:00 - [11] - Quote I have not tested this myself, but if this is the case, they NEED to go or be change. This will kill 80% of my corps PVP activity. Once again WHs are a complete after thought for CCP. Blue-Fire Best Fire
Dmitry Wizard THE AESIR. Ragnarok. 180	Posted - 2014.01.30 07:08:00 - [12] - Quote SoulRipper666 wrote: I have not tested this myself, but if this is the case, they NEED to go or be change. This will kill 80% of my corps PVP activity. Once again WHs are a complete after thought for CCP. This IS the case. we just coonencted to wormhole holder's C6 and theey had one of these on the hi sec. i didnt even think about it til i switched to local and saw the feed of everyone going through. i was immediately filled with rage and popped it "Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids"
Dmitry Wizard THE AESIR. Ragnarok. 180	Posted - 2014.01.30 07:14:00 - [13] - Quote http://prntscr.com/2nuydj screen shot of local after passing through and watching others do the same "Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids"
Seraph Essael Devils Diciples League of Infamy 415	Posted - 2014.01.30 07:48:00 - [14] - Quote Agreed, this has to go. It's a game breaking mechanic for wormholes. +1 for the removal. Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Keith Planck Sky Fighters 678	Posted - 2014.01.30 07:57:00 - [15] - Quote whats the difference between this and having a 1 day old tune in a t1 frigate cloaked beside the hole with your sound on?
Dmitry Wizard THE AESIR. Ragnarok. 183	Posted - 2014.01.30 07:59:00 - [16] - Quote thats not the point keith. its a 30 km bubble and broadcasts who you are in local.... its broken "Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids"
Spainky Monkey Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.01.30 07:59:00 - [17] - Quote i dont usually say this, but keep this crap out of my hole. these things shouldnt even online unless there is a subspace beacon in sys.
Keith Planck Sky Fighters 678	Posted - 2014.01.30 08:04:00 - [18] - Quote Dmitry Wizard wrote: thats not the point keith. its a 30 km bubble and broadcasts who you are in local.... its broken It is the point... It's cheaper and more efficient to use a real bubble and listen to the hole on an alt It's 25mil and cant be recovered so it's not like you can move them from wormhole to wormhole. It's just a slightly more convenient and expensive but less effective method of watching for Gankers. If those bears you tried to Gank had a large bubble and a scout on the hole you wouldn't have killed them. You won't see these on holes any more frequently then you'll see large bubbles. So what exactly is it breaking?
Dmitry Wizard THE AESIR. Ragnarok. 183	Posted - 2014.01.30 08:12:00 - [19] - Quote its just more thing to screw wormhole people. having an alt on the hole requires you to have an alt logged in an on the hole. this tells you who it is and where they are in local without anything else. im not sure if they can be scooped or not. i havent bought any of them yet to do all the proper testing. it doesnt belng in wormhole space, its one more thing to screw the pvpers over "Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids"
Spainky Monkey Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.01.30 08:23:00 - [20] - Quote Keith Planck wrote: Dmitry Wizard wrote: thats not the point keith. its a 30 km bubble and broadcasts who you are in local.... its broken It is the point... It's cheaper and more efficient to use a real bubble and listen to the hole on an alt It's 25mil and cant be recovered so it's not like you can move them from wormhole to wormhole. It's just a slightly more convenient and expensive but less effective method of watching for Gankers. If those bears you tried to Gank had a large bubble and a scout on the hole you wouldn't have killed them. You won't see these on holes any more frequently then you'll see large bubbles. So what exactly is it breaking? I will attempt to explain this in small words so that everyone can understand. having an alt is not cheaper than a 25m super bubble. it also requires active player attention , at least more active than an automatic local spam in wh.
Caius Beriat Whale Girth Grand Sky Wizards 130	Posted - 2014.01.30 08:47:00 - [21] - Quote The question is, will the CSM be able to get them to fix this?
Janeway84 Aliastra Gallente Federation 74	Posted - 2014.01.30 08:52:00 - [22] - Quote Destruct every single ESS you see! If you what you guys are saying here is true about the ESS its like free intel without having to bother with having a scout at the hole.. this is like breaking everything about wh space..
calaretu Honestly We didnt know Surely You're Joking 50	Posted - 2014.01.30 08:54:00 - [23] - Quote Sorry Keith but theres a difference between active scouting, even on alts, and a passive broadcaster that cant be countered.
Moist Weasel Cult of Mooby 0	Posted - 2014.01.30 08:54:00 - [24] - Quote +1, Either fix it to where it can not be deployed in WH space or remove it. If I wanted to have early warning I would play in LS/NS.
Chitsa Jason Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 1101	Posted - 2014.01.30 08:59:00 - [25] - Quote Forwarding info to CCP. I hope it gets fixed as free intel should not be on the table in wspace. CSM8 Member Twitter:-á@ChitsaJason Skype: Casparas
Kaivaja State War Academy Caldari State 34	Posted - 2014.01.30 09:00:00 - [26] - Quote Isn't the broadcast in local supposedly sent by Concord or the factional navy whose unit has been deployed? Neither Concord nor navies should send any broadcasts in w-space local. I think it's fine that the module works in w-space, but the broadcasts should not.
Snow Axe Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 1451	Posted - 2014.01.30 09:01:00 - [27] - Quote Keith Planck wrote: It is the point... It's cheaper and more efficient to use a real bubble and listen to the hole on an alt It's 25mil and cant be recovered so it's not like you can move them from wormhole to wormhole. It's just a slightly more convenient and expensive but less effective method of watching for Gankers. If those bears you tried to Gank had a large bubble and a scout on the hole you wouldn't have killed them. You won't see these on holes any more frequently then you'll see large bubbles. So what exactly is it breaking? A toon with a bubble may definitely be cheaper, but a human being doing a thing has room for error. If the person running the toon looks away, gets distracted, bio break, whatever, they can miss things. Something that automatically reports who's there will do so perfectly every time, no error. That's why it's bad. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Dmitry Wizard THE AESIR. Ragnarok. 185	Posted - 2014.01.30 09:05:00 - [28] - Quote Chitsa Jason wrote: Forwarding info to CCP. I hope it gets fixed as free intel should not be on the table in wspace. Tank you Chitsa. I have also thrown in a petition just to see what gm ruling is. heres to hoping "Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids"
Ori Muvila Armax Arsenal. Clandestine. 11	Posted - 2014.01.30 09:14:00 - [29] - Quote Hopefully this gets sorted soon. Wormholes need to be treated similar to gates when it comes to this sort of thing
Jay Joringer Serene Vendetta 314	Posted - 2014.01.30 09:42:00 - [30] - Quote IGÇÖm going to echo Keith a bit here and say I donGÇÖt think itGÇÖs that big a deal. It probably will get fixed, but in the meantime it doesnGÇÖt change things a whole lot. No one is going to do any serious bearing with an active connection. Also, if people a rolling into holes for pew, they wonGÇÖt find one of these instantaneously appear on the K162. If people have thought about this properly, it something that can be used to instigate GÇÿplayer interactionGÇÖ. But for those who canGÇÖt figure out how, by all means whinge about how it will kill off 80% of your uncreative PvP. And while weGÇÖre at it: GÇ£88.2% of statistics are made up on the spotGÇ¥ GÇôVic Reeves "Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." -Anais Nin http://smug-bastard.blogspot.co.uk/

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