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Taoist Dragon
Bastion of Mad Behaviour Caldari State Capturing
852
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Posted - 2014.02.02 10:25:00 -
[31] - Quote
Gefen Orion wrote:Taoist Dragon wrote:Gefen Orion wrote:Once again I am forced to adapt. I need to find a new home...for my rattlesnake. That's the only way to beat this omni nerf. Change rats and change sentry and drone priorities. Adapt or die! Evolution of the fittest works well in EVE.  If you don't want to adapt go play wow or some shite like that!  Read and comprehend. It's really not that hard.
Read and comprehension done.
Still posting in a 'wah why do I have to adapt CCP' thread.
You already admitted you are adapting so this thread is just a whine. That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
http://taoistdragon.blogspot.com.au/ |

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
2009
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Posted - 2014.02.02 11:08:00 -
[32] - Quote
Gefen Orion wrote:Seems like every good thing CCP makes have to be grounded down to crap nowadays. First it was heavy missiles, then RLML, then there was the TE nerf, now the omnis.
HML tengu - shafted RLML cerberus - shafted Rattlesnake - shafted
Now this really hurt me coz i really love this ship even after everybody told me to stay away from drones since i started playing around 2009, i told myself, CCP would come around on fixing drones and make them a dependable weapon platform. The RS was my very first faction BS and Im still using the very same RS that I bought way back in 2009. When the DDA and T2 omni modules came out, seems like my prayers were answered. Then came the AI drone agro, i adapted to that change...no biggie. Now they've nerfed the omnis...seems like the drone boats were thrown back to 2009 - 2010 era...
I haven't been paying attention to the boards lately, but why did CCP change the omnis mechanics?
I guess i have to store my rattlesnake, along with my tengu (dusting for months now) back to my ship bay. Two ships that i really like turn to crap.
I guess the Mach is next in line huh?
Good job CCP on rebalancing the game...high five...fist bump...two thumbs up to you guys! Keep up the good work. Way to go buddy! You guys are the best!
Nerf everything to the ground. Until everything is balance. EVE would be a great game then. clap! clap! clap!
100mn tengu's were really dumb
rlml cerbs were really really dumb
The rattle snake was and is absolutely fine.. The omni mechanics have been change but the rattler hasn't been made worse through it at all. (Not noticably anyhow)
Stop being bad (Trademarked.) BYDI recruitment closed-ish |

Gefen Orion
Orion Star Ltd.
13
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Posted - 2014.02.02 12:30:00 -
[33] - Quote
Taoist Dragon wrote:Gefen Orion wrote:Taoist Dragon wrote:Gefen Orion wrote:Once again I am forced to adapt. I need to find a new home...for my rattlesnake. That's the only way to beat this omni nerf. Change rats and change sentry and drone priorities. Adapt or die! Evolution of the fittest works well in EVE.  If you don't want to adapt go play wow or some shite like that!  Read and comprehend. It's really not that hard. Read and comprehension done. Still posting in a 'wah why do I have to adapt CCP' thread. You already admitted you are adapting so this thread is just a whine.
And you sound stupid because you keep on repeating yourself.  |

Gefen Orion
Orion Star Ltd.
13
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Posted - 2014.02.02 12:33:00 -
[34] - Quote
Garviel Tarrant wrote:Gefen Orion wrote:Seems like every good thing CCP makes have to be grounded down to crap nowadays. First it was heavy missiles, then RLML, then there was the TE nerf, now the omnis.
HML tengu - shafted RLML cerberus - shafted Rattlesnake - shafted
Now this really hurt me coz i really love this ship even after everybody told me to stay away from drones since i started playing around 2009, i told myself, CCP would come around on fixing drones and make them a dependable weapon platform. The RS was my very first faction BS and Im still using the very same RS that I bought way back in 2009. When the DDA and T2 omni modules came out, seems like my prayers were answered. Then came the AI drone agro, i adapted to that change...no biggie. Now they've nerfed the omnis...seems like the drone boats were thrown back to 2009 - 2010 era...
I haven't been paying attention to the boards lately, but why did CCP change the omnis mechanics?
I guess i have to store my rattlesnake, along with my tengu (dusting for months now) back to my ship bay. Two ships that i really like turn to crap.
I guess the Mach is next in line huh?
Good job CCP on rebalancing the game...high five...fist bump...two thumbs up to you guys! Keep up the good work. Way to go buddy! You guys are the best!
Nerf everything to the ground. Until everything is balance. EVE would be a great game then. clap! clap! clap!
100mn tengu's were really dumb rlml cerbs were really really dumb The rattle snake was and is absolutely fine.. The omni mechanics have been change but the rattler hasn't been made worse through it at all. (Not noticably anyhow) Stop being bad (Trademarked.)
I can't help it if I'm bad. 
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
2010
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Posted - 2014.02.02 19:36:00 -
[35] - Quote
Gefen Orion wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:Gefen Orion wrote:Seems like every good thing CCP makes have to be grounded down to crap nowadays. First it was heavy missiles, then RLML, then there was the TE nerf, now the omnis.
HML tengu - shafted RLML cerberus - shafted Rattlesnake - shafted
Now this really hurt me coz i really love this ship even after everybody told me to stay away from drones since i started playing around 2009, i told myself, CCP would come around on fixing drones and make them a dependable weapon platform. The RS was my very first faction BS and Im still using the very same RS that I bought way back in 2009. When the DDA and T2 omni modules came out, seems like my prayers were answered. Then came the AI drone agro, i adapted to that change...no biggie. Now they've nerfed the omnis...seems like the drone boats were thrown back to 2009 - 2010 era...
I haven't been paying attention to the boards lately, but why did CCP change the omnis mechanics?
I guess i have to store my rattlesnake, along with my tengu (dusting for months now) back to my ship bay. Two ships that i really like turn to crap.
I guess the Mach is next in line huh?
Good job CCP on rebalancing the game...high five...fist bump...two thumbs up to you guys! Keep up the good work. Way to go buddy! You guys are the best!
Nerf everything to the ground. Until everything is balance. EVE would be a great game then. clap! clap! clap!
100mn tengu's were really dumb rlml cerbs were really really dumb The rattle snake was and is absolutely fine.. The omni mechanics have been change but the rattler hasn't been made worse through it at all. (Not noticably anyhow) Stop being bad (Trademarked.) I can't help it if I'm bad. 
So bad.
BYDI recruitment closed-ish |

Garnoo
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
104
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Posted - 2014.02.02 20:06:00 -
[36] - Quote
Tyberius Franklin wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:or overheat the dam thing and get used to carrying paste. and its not a nerf. How is 18% for one attribute and 36% for another while requiring paste and 2 slots better than 25% for both from a single slot that required neither cap nor paste?
just go for heavy drones...  People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back - this is EvE |

Taoist Dragon
Bastion of Mad Behaviour Caldari State Capturing
854
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Posted - 2014.02.03 05:19:00 -
[37] - Quote
Gefen Orion wrote:
Read and comprehension done.
Still posting in a 'wah why do I have to adapt CCP' thread.
You already admitted you are adapting so this thread is just a whine.
And you sound stupid because you keep on repeating yourself. [/quote]
And you resorting to insults proves you are.  That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
http://taoistdragon.blogspot.com.au/ |

Canthan Rogue
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
13
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Posted - 2014.02.03 06:16:00 -
[38] - Quote
The rattlesnake's missile velocity bonus sucks. It needs to be changed to an explosion radius/ROF/drone range/tracking bonus to be brought on par with the other pirate battleships. |

ashley Eoner
259
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Posted - 2014.02.03 07:48:00 -
[39] - Quote
Soldarius wrote:You people are amazing.
All they did was make the omnis like other scriptable weapons boosting items, such a tracking computers, because omnis (the drone version of a tracking computer) gave twice the bonuses of a TC. It has been balanced as it should.
Now we just need a missile damage application item for midslots, since none exists yet. Yeah cause drones have implants just like turrets and a low slot passive module that increases tracking/range just like turrets too...
I'm almost more annoyed by the federation omnis being crap. A result of lazy copy paste on CCP's part.
EDIT : HAHAHAHAHA at heavy drones in pve. |

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
2010
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Posted - 2014.02.03 10:59:00 -
[40] - Quote
Why would you get a rattler for pve anyhow?
Its completely overtanked for 99% of the pve out there... Pve is generally easy as balls, you don't really need a tank, you need dps to run it as fast as you can. BYDI recruitment closed-ish |

Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
171
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Posted - 2014.02.03 11:07:00 -
[41] - Quote
Quote:Why would you get a rattler for pve anyhow?
Its completely overtanked for 99% of the pve out there... Pve is generally easy as balls, you don't really need a tank, you need dps to run it as fast as you can.
Not all PvE is L4 missions in HighSec. You can run those with a dilapidated coat hanger.  |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1548
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Posted - 2014.02.03 15:08:00 -
[42] - Quote
Bertrand Butler wrote:Quote:Why would you get a rattler for pve anyhow?
Its completely overtanked for 99% of the pve out there... Pve is generally easy as balls, you don't really need a tank, you need dps to run it as fast as you can. Not all PvE is L4 missions in HighSec. You can run those with a dilapidated coat hanger. 
This. THe hull isn't to expensive, it gets and insane amount of HP buffer, it has 13 combined mid/low slots. Very versatile. Easily 800+ DPS with 100% damage selection at sniper range and good/perfect application. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
13620
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Posted - 2014.02.03 15:37:00 -
[43] - Quote
Batelle wrote:My rattlesnake used to get 59+12 km on gardes Now it gets 45km + 21
IMO the one who really suffers is gila. It has less room for omnis than the rattlesnake does.
Also the Stratios and Nestor. Ouch.
Fortunately there are other sentries than Gardes.
1 Kings 12:11
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Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1549
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Posted - 2014.02.03 15:47:00 -
[44] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Batelle wrote:My rattlesnake used to get 59+12 km on gardes Now it gets 45km + 21
IMO the one who really suffers is gila. It has less room for omnis than the rattlesnake does.
Also the Stratios and Nestor. Ouch. Fortunately there are other sentries than Gardes.
Yes, something I have pointed out least a dozen times in the various threads. Still sucks for the Stratios though, that thing needs as much dps as it can get. And the Gila, which often can't realistically fit more than 1 omni. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Goldensaver
Lom Corporation WHY so DERP'D
366
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Posted - 2014.02.03 15:59:00 -
[45] - Quote
Batelle wrote:Malcanis wrote:Batelle wrote:My rattlesnake used to get 59+12 km on gardes Now it gets 45km + 21
IMO the one who really suffers is gila. It has less room for omnis than the rattlesnake does.
Also the Stratios and Nestor. Ouch. Fortunately there are other sentries than Gardes. Yes, something I have pointed out least a dozen times in the various threads. Still sucks for the Stratios though, that thing needs as much dps as it can get. And the Gila, which often can't realistically fit more than 1 omni.
The Stratios has a cloak. It can choose its engagement range. It's fine off. Besides, even without Gardes it has the most possible DPS of any Covops capable ship. |

Bruce Kemp
Suddenly taken over
85
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Posted - 2014.02.04 11:12:00 -
[46] - Quote
Gefen Orion wrote:Seems like every good thing CCP makes have to be grounded down to crap nowadays. First it was heavy missiles, then RLML, then there was the TE nerf, now the omnis.
HML tengu - shafted RLML cerberus - shafted Rattlesnake - shafted
Now this really hurt me coz i really love this ship even after everybody told me to stay away from drones since i started playing around 2009, i told myself, CCP would come around on fixing drones and make them a dependable weapon platform. The RS was my very first faction BS and Im still using the very same RS that I bought way back in 2009. When the DDA and T2 omni modules came out, seems like my prayers were answered. Then came the AI drone agro, i adapted to that change...no biggie. Now they've nerfed the omnis...seems like the drone boats were thrown back to 2009 - 2010 era...
I haven't been paying attention to the boards lately, but why did CCP change the omnis mechanics?
I guess i have to store my rattlesnake, along with my tengu (dusting for months now) back to my ship bay. Two ships that i really like turn to crap.
I guess the Mach is next in line huh?
Good job CCP on rebalancing the game...high five...fist bump...two thumbs up to you guys! Keep up the good work. Way to go buddy! You guys are the best!
Nerf everything to the ground. Until everything is balance. EVE would be a great game then. clap! clap! clap!
LOL, you carebears....
EVE has always been a game of balance, adapt or fail.
Keep these words in your mind and you will go far. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
278
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Posted - 2014.02.04 11:29:00 -
[47] - Quote
Bruce Kemp wrote:Gefen Orion wrote:Seems like every good thing CCP makes have to be grounded down to crap nowadays. First it was heavy missiles, then RLML, then there was the TE nerf, now the omnis.
HML tengu - shafted RLML cerberus - shafted Rattlesnake - shafted
Now this really hurt me coz i really love this ship even after everybody told me to stay away from drones since i started playing around 2009, i told myself, CCP would come around on fixing drones and make them a dependable weapon platform. The RS was my very first faction BS and Im still using the very same RS that I bought way back in 2009. When the DDA and T2 omni modules came out, seems like my prayers were answered. Then came the AI drone agro, i adapted to that change...no biggie. Now they've nerfed the omnis...seems like the drone boats were thrown back to 2009 - 2010 era...
I haven't been paying attention to the boards lately, but why did CCP change the omnis mechanics?
I guess i have to store my rattlesnake, along with my tengu (dusting for months now) back to my ship bay. Two ships that i really like turn to crap.
I guess the Mach is next in line huh?
Good job CCP on rebalancing the game...high five...fist bump...two thumbs up to you guys! Keep up the good work. Way to go buddy! You guys are the best!
Nerf everything to the ground. Until everything is balance. EVE would be a great game then. clap! clap! clap!
LOL, you carebears.... EVE has always been a game of balance, adapt or fail. Keep these words in your mind and you will go far.
Confirmed "lol you carebears..." Has been my mantra this last year, Inspirational stuff there. If in doubt...do...excessively. |

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
2010
|
Posted - 2014.02.04 12:48:00 -
[48] - Quote
"lol you carebears" is a pretty good mantra to be honest. BYDI recruitment closed-ish |

Morrigan LeSante
The Lost and Forgotten Troopers
649
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Posted - 2014.02.04 13:22:00 -
[49] - Quote
Bruce Kemp wrote:EVE has always been a game of balance, adapt or fail.
Keep these words in your mind and you will go far.
You'd have a point if the unbonused drone boats were remotely "overpowered"...they were just fun.
I'm all for balance but people seriously consider a RS/gila/other overpowered? I don't think so. Not even close.
I'm weary of ccp nerfing weapon systems because a couple of hulls are abusive. They're hardly going to revisit the tiericide are they? It's very disappointing and the lack of feedback or interest in the F&I thread has been pretty disgraceful tbh.
Can I adapt? Sure, I can fly about anything, but other stuff wasn't as much fun as the RS/DNI etc. They were massively eclipsed by the domi/ishtar but they were more fun. Now they are not worth the trouble and one might as well jump on the same bandwagon as everyone else.  |

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
2012
|
Posted - 2014.02.04 13:27:00 -
[50] - Quote
Morrigan LeSante wrote:Bruce Kemp wrote:EVE has always been a game of balance, adapt or fail.
Keep these words in your mind and you will go far. You'd have a point if the unbonused drone boats were remotely "overpowered"...they were just fun. I'm all for balance but people seriously consider a RS/gila/other overpowered? I don't think so. Not even close. I'm weary of ccp nerfing weapon systems because a couple of hulls are abusive. They're hardly going to revisit the tiericide are they? It's very disappointing and the lack of feedback or interest in the F&I thread has been pretty disgraceful tbh. Can I adapt? Sure, I can fly about anything, but other stuff wasn't as much fun as the RS/DNI etc. They were massively eclipsed by the domi/ishtar but they were more fun. Now they are not worth the trouble and one might as well jump on the same bandwagon as everyone else. 
They are fine... They are still fine...
You just have an active module that works a bit differently than it did before.. O.o BYDI recruitment closed-ish |

Morrigan LeSante
The Lost and Forgotten Troopers
649
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Posted - 2014.02.04 14:47:00 -
[51] - Quote
Garviel Tarrant wrote:Morrigan LeSante wrote:Bruce Kemp wrote:EVE has always been a game of balance, adapt or fail.
Keep these words in your mind and you will go far. You'd have a point if the unbonused drone boats were remotely "overpowered"...they were just fun. I'm all for balance but people seriously consider a RS/gila/other overpowered? I don't think so. Not even close. I'm weary of ccp nerfing weapon systems because a couple of hulls are abusive. They're hardly going to revisit the tiericide are they? It's very disappointing and the lack of feedback or interest in the F&I thread has been pretty disgraceful tbh. Can I adapt? Sure, I can fly about anything, but other stuff wasn't as much fun as the RS/DNI etc. They were massively eclipsed by the domi/ishtar but they were more fun. Now they are not worth the trouble and one might as well jump on the same bandwagon as everyone else.  They are fine... They are still fine... You just have an active module that works a bit differently than it did before.. O.o
But 'differently' you mean much worse? There's a reason tracking unbonsed sentries only exist in the realms of EFT warriors to pad DPS figures. You can get 3 on a CNR - you get higher paper DPS. In the real world no-one does it because they can't hit ****.
And what of the people who used rattlers in neut heavy areas? They now lose all drone tracking and before anyone says "like turret users" remember no TE equivalent exists.
I've not seen a shred of evidence to suggest the problem sits with sentries themselves and NOT the bonused hulls.Sentries became an issue after two hulls were given bonuses and the 'solution' is to nerf sentries as opposed to look at the last hull changes? That's simply nonsensical. When things that were fine cease to be fine, the logical option is to reassess what you just changed, not change more and damn everything else. |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1564
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:02:00 -
[52] - Quote
Morrigan LeSante wrote: But 'differently' you mean much worse? There's a reason tracking unbonsed sentries only exist in the realms of EFT warriors to pad DPS figures. You can get 3 on a CNR - you get higher paper DPS. In the real world no-one does it because they can't hit ****.
If you need tracking on your sentries in PVE, you might be doing it wrong. The only reasons to not use sentries on a CNR is because you're slowboating to a gate while shooting, you have terrible skills, or you're lazy. Even without room for a DLA, non-garde's will apply significant dps to large targets and kill frigates at range.
Quote: I've not seen a shred of evidence to suggest the problem sits with sentries themselves and NOT the bonused hulls.
Its the drones themselves (not just sentries). This should be clear to everyone. There's plenty of evidence: -Drone base stats are all out of whack. -Drone base stats have been unchanged for over 5 years, probably longer, except for... -Up until a week ago, all drones of all sizes had the same shield recharge stat. That should tell you something about how much consideration CCP has given to drone base stats. -Minmatar drones still have damage modifiers swapped with Amarrian drones. Inexplicably. After all these years. -Curator and Garde tracking are integer multiples of warden/bouncer tracking. A bonused or tracking-omni'd garde has roughly the tracking of a neutron blaster cannon, despite most players intending to use it for longer-range stuff. It seems there is a disconnect between how sentries are used and how CCP originally designed them. -Say what you will about the state of drones as a whole, omnis were a freakin crutch. Despite the fact that it makes the bonus of the domi/ishtar relatively more powerful, you have to agree that any module giving 30% to both tracking and optimal is a bit ridiculous. If such a module is required for usability, then that indicates an issue with the underlying weapon system. -Note that for a long time, omnidirectionals were completely free of stacking penalties. -For the same reasons as above, Drone Control Range is still a thing. How it got into the game is a different discussion but what is important right now is that it currently serves a balancing purpose to drone sentry sniping. This was and to some extent still is necessary as the screwed up state of sentry stats and omnidirectionals means that Drone Control Range serves as an effective balance to what would otherwise be 700dps drone snipers hitting from 200km. The Rubicon 1.1 changes reduced the need for this balancing role slightly but have not eliminated it entirely. Drone control range needs to be abolished as part of any comprehensive drone overhaul. If you want to know why drone control range exists at all and why it applies to sentries, read here. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Gefen Orion
Orion Star Ltd.
14
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:30:00 -
[53] - Quote
To sum it up. Is the rattlesnake better or worse than before. And how many rattlesnake pilots do we have here anyway? For rs pilots, what is your general opinion on the rs current performance. Better or worse? For me, its a step down from before. |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1865
|
Posted - 2014.02.04 18:35:00 -
[54] - Quote
Gefen Orion wrote:To sum it up. Is the rattlesnake better or worse than before. And how many rattlesnake pilots do we have here anyway? For rs pilots, what is your general opinion on the rs current performance. Better or worse? For me, its a step down from before.
Let's cut the melodrama here... One module was slightly nerfed (what a couple have suggested was a buff), and THAT makes the Rattlesnake a bad ship? You guys seriously need to get over this FOTD bull$hit... It's the same ship it's always been, and you don't have as much insane DPS as you used to stacking 12 OMNI's and 26 CalNavy BCS' on it.
You don't like it, pick one of a number of other OP ships. But enough with the drama. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |

Gefen Orion
Orion Star Ltd.
14
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:43:00 -
[55] - Quote
Ginger Barbarella wrote:Gefen Orion wrote:To sum it up. Is the rattlesnake better or worse than before. And how many rattlesnake pilots do we have here anyway? For rs pilots, what is your general opinion on the rs current performance. Better or worse? For me, its a step down from before. Let's cut the melodrama here... One module was slightly nerfed (what a couple have suggested was a buff), and THAT makes the Rattlesnake a bad ship? You guys seriously need to get over this FOTD bull$hit... It's the same ship it's always been, and you don't have as much insane DPS as you used to stacking 12 OMNI's and 26 CalNavy BCS' on it. You don't like it, pick one of a number of other OP ships. But enough with the drama. No drama here. Just an honest question. So for you iits the same. I respect your opinion. |

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
672
|
Posted - 2014.02.04 19:22:00 -
[56] - Quote
Gefen Orion wrote:To sum it up. Is the rattlesnake better or worse than before. And how many rattlesnake pilots do we have here anyway? For rs pilots, what is your general opinion on the rs current performance. Better or worse? For me, its a step down from before. It's clearly much worse performance wise. This is supported by the actual numbers. If this nerf was needed or not is a topic for discussion.
This thread has come down to RS pilots saying how bad the nerf is and people trying to troll them. I'm guessing soon to be locked for this reason... |

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
2012
|
Posted - 2014.02.04 19:46:00 -
[57] - Quote
Wait is the arguement here that the rattler is dead because its worth than the domi at lvl 4's?
Because it totally is and you're absolutely right
But the Rattler has always been a substandard mission boat.. That really REALLY not where its strength lies. BYDI recruitment closed-ish |

Gefen Orion
Orion Star Ltd.
14
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Posted - 2014.02.04 19:51:00 -
[58] - Quote
Trolls are trolls and will troll if its trollable. I just wanted to know the general consensus for rs pilots. Generally, the target of this omni nerf was supposed to be domis and ishtar pilots. Inadvertantly, the rs was smacked harder than those two hulls. So, if the changes to the omnis will stick. Then might as well talk about on how to improve the rs hull rather than dwell on things we can't do anything about. Say, remove the missile bonus and replace it with drone tracking and range bonus...to compensate with the recent changes to the omnis... |

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
672
|
Posted - 2014.02.04 19:54:00 -
[59] - Quote
Garviel Tarrant wrote:Wait is the arguement here that the rattler is dead because its worth than the domi at lvl 4's?
Because it totally is and you're absolutely right
But the Rattler has always been a substandard mission boat.. That really REALLY not where its strength lies.
I think the OP was referring to PVE content. Yes I know it's strength is in PVP having 50 of them assisting one fast locking ship to instapop anything on grid  |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
995
|
Posted - 2014.02.04 20:48:00 -
[60] - Quote
Garviel Tarrant wrote:Wait is the arguement here that the rattler is dead because its worth than the domi at lvl 4's?
Because it totally is and you're absolutely right
But the Rattler has always been a substandard mission boat.. That really REALLY not where its strength lies. Prior to MJD range bonused domis the RS was actually quite a competitive droneboat for damage performance. There was no projection disadvantage, plenty of room for DDA's and enough mids for omni's + bonus augmented tank. Slot layout and bonused shield tank made it advantageous IMHO. |
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