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Gefen Orion
Orion Star Ltd.
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Posted - 2014.01.30 13:59:00 -
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Seems like every good thing CCP makes have to be grounded down to crap nowadays. First it was heavy missiles, then RLML, then there was the TE nerf, now the omnis.
HML tengu - shafted
RLML cerberus - shafted
Rattlesnake - shafted
Now this really hurt me coz i really love this ship even after everybody told me to stay away from drones since i started playing around 2009, i told myself, CCP would come around on fixing drones and make them a dependable weapon platform. The RS was my very first faction BS and Im still using the very same RS that I bought way back in 2009. When the DDA and T2 omni modules came out, seems like my prayers were answered. Then came the AI drone agro, i adapted to that change...no biggie. Now they've nerfed the omnis...seems like the drone boats were thrown back to 2009 - 2010 era...
I haven't been paying attention to the boards lately, but why did CCP change the omnis mechanics?
I guess i have to store my rattlesnake, along with my tengu (dusting for months now) back to my ship bay. Two ships that i really like turn to crap.
I guess the Mach is next in line huh?
Good job CCP on rebalancing the game...high five...fist bump...two thumbs up to you guys! Keep up the good work. Way to go buddy! You guys are the best!
Nerf everything to the ground. Until everything is balance. EVE would be a great game then. clap! clap! clap!
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Odithia
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2014.01.30 14:02:00 -
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Oh noes, the ridiculously overpowered FOTM got nerfed just when I was done training for it, screw this game! |
Gefen Orion
Orion Star Ltd.
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Posted - 2014.01.30 14:07:00 -
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Odithia wrote:Oh noes, the ridiculously overpowered FOTM got nerfed just when I was done training for it, screw this game!
huh? good job on reading and comprehension. keep it up buddy.! |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
2669
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Posted - 2014.01.30 14:26:00 -
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Gefen Orion wrote:I haven't been paying attention to the boards lately, but why did CCP change the omnis mechanics?
Same reason they nerfed HMs. Because they're overused in nullsec.
Quote:I guess the Mach is next in line huh?
Probably not for a while yet.
Oh god. |
Garak n00biachi
Capital Destruction
115
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Posted - 2014.01.30 14:36:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Gefen Orion wrote:I haven't been paying attention to the boards lately, but why did CCP change the omnis mechanics? Same reason they nerfed HMs. Because they're overused in nullsec. Quote:I guess the Mach is next in line huh? Probably not for a while yet.
You will either have to remove 00 or keep nerfing untill every item in this game does the same ******* thing.
They should have just removed the Dominix bonus if its causing this many problems, its pretty ******** to nerf everything around drones just to limit the viability of the Domi\\\\ishtar.....which is really whats going on here. |
Gefen Orion
Orion Star Ltd.
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Posted - 2014.01.30 14:47:00 -
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sigh...whenever i ship spin my rattlesnake...i just...sigh. sad day when i brought out my garde IIs and started to see miss after miss on a 45km range npc BS. I miss my wrecking hits at 45km already...sad just so sad they nerf my RS...now it's either marauders or mach...i guess its safe to say, they won't touch marauders coz its just been recently "re-balanced."
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Kairavi Mrithyakara
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Posted - 2014.01.30 14:49:00 -
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If it is any consolation, the other three Sentries still work pretty well on the RS. Not as well as on a Dominix, but still... |
stoicfaux
3977
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Posted - 2014.01.30 14:49:00 -
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Oh relax. Gardes were nerfed, because, let's be honest here, high tracking plus long range from omnis (for a short range weapon) plus high damage (plus thermal being an almost universal damage type against NPCs) was a tad much.
The other sentries are still long ranged enough with omni's that you can still project damage effectively. But you'll need to remember to switch to Gardes for their tracking at short range.
Having said that, it was a pretty ham-fisted way to bring things into line, especially since most of the long range Garde problem is due to the Ishtar/Domi. But it's not the end of the world for the Rattlesnake.
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1458
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Posted - 2014.01.30 15:35:00 -
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My rattlesnake used to get 59+12 km on gardes
Now it gets 45km + 21
IMO the one who really suffers is gila. It has less room for omnis than the rattlesnake does.
Also the Stratios and Nestor. Ouch.
"CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1853
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Posted - 2014.01.30 17:17:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Gefen Orion wrote:I haven't been paying attention to the boards lately, but why did CCP change the omnis mechanics? Same reason they nerfed HMs. Because they're overused in nullsec.
Bwahahahahaha!!! Oh, god, that's great!! Thanks for the good laugh in the morning!! 
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1460
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Posted - 2014.01.30 17:25:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Gefen Orion wrote:I haven't been paying attention to the boards lately, but why did CCP change the omnis mechanics? Same reason they nerfed HMs. Because they're overused in nullsec. Bwahahahahaha!!! Oh, god, that's great!! Thanks for the good laugh in the morning!!
CCP would not have nerfed sentries had they not become the dominant in the pvp metagame. If something is only overpowered in PVE, they just leave it alone unless something egregious is going on, like the AFK domis that were generating a billion a day being literally AFK (some static cosmos plex thing somewhere or soemthing).
They didn't nerf HMLs because of PVE performance, they nerfed them when HMLs drakes became a cheap and overly effective fleet meta, and hml tengus were a not-so cheap doctrine but also overly effective in terms of damage application and range.
"CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Hatsumi Kobayashi
Origin.
Black Legion.
425
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Posted - 2014.01.30 17:45:00 -
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omni nerf? more like buff
No sig. |
Gregor Parud
169
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Posted - 2014.01.30 17:48:00 -
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Logical and factual post strikes OP for over 9000, sinking the OP's battleship whine post. |
Notorious Fellon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
165
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Posted - 2014.01.30 17:48:00 -
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Hatsumi Kobayashi wrote:omni nerf? more like buff
You math funny. |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1853
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Posted - 2014.01.30 17:50:00 -
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Gefen Orion wrote:Odithia wrote:Oh noes, the ridiculously overpowered FOTM got nerfed just when I was done training for it, screw this game! huh? good job on reading and comprehension. keep it up buddy.!
This. Wow, Odithia should just be embarassed...
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Frostys Virpio
Let's pay some taxes
993
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:02:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Oh relax. Gardes were nerfed, because, let's be honest here, high tracking plus long range from omnis (for a short range weapon) plus high damage (plus thermal being an almost universal damage type against NPCs) was a tad much.
The other sentries are still long ranged enough with omni's that you can still project damage effectively. But you'll need to remember to switch to Gardes for their tracking at short range.
Having said that, it was a pretty ham-fisted way to bring things into line, especially since most of the long range Garde problem is due to the Ishtar/Domi. But it's not the end of the world for the Rattlesnake.
Can't you just use garde II and script for range when stuff are far and require much less tracking and script for tracking when it gets close? Isn't that what tracking on tracking computer used for anyway, adapting to your target range on the fly? |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
266
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:21:00 -
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Jesus christ, just train Thermo dynamics already
If in doubt...do...excessively. |
Gefen Orion
Orion Star Ltd.
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:22:00 -
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Once again I am forced to adapt. I need to find a new home...for my rattlesnake. That's the only way to beat this omni nerf. Change rats and change sentry and drone priorities. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
266
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:25:00 -
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or overheat the dam thing and get used to carrying paste
If in doubt...do...excessively. |
Odithia
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:51:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Gefen Orion wrote:Odithia wrote:Oh noes, the ridiculously overpowered FOTM got nerfed just when I was done training for it, screw this game! huh? good job on reading and comprehension. keep it up buddy.! This. Wow, Odithia should just be embarassed...
I could, but I'm too happy seeing the sentrybots whining everywere to feel anything but joy.
Beside the Rattlesnake has a neat tank, it's not like you can't go up close and personal with it, so the range reduction hurt it less than others. |
Eaphod
Divided Unity
The Night Crew Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.30 19:12:00 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:Logical and factual post strikes OP for over 9000, sinking the OP's battleship whine post.
Even by these forum standards you are trying too hard to troll. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
992
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Posted - 2014.01.30 20:37:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:or overheat the dam thing and get used to carrying paste.
and its not a nerf.
How is 18% for one attribute and 36% for another while requiring paste and 2 slots better than 25% for both from a single slot that required neither cap nor paste?
Edit: Agreed it's not the end of the world, but with a cheaper better option, most cases won't refer the RS. |
Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland
Test Alliance Please Ignore
505
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Posted - 2014.01.30 20:57:00 -
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You people are amazing.
All they did was make the omnis like other scriptable weapons boosting items, such a tracking computers, because omnis (the drone version of a tracking computer) gave twice the bonuses of a TC. It has been balanced as it should.
Now we just need a missile damage application item for midslots, since none exists yet.
Free Ripley Weaver! |
Frostys Virpio
Let's pay some taxes
995
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Posted - 2014.01.31 00:42:00 -
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Soldarius wrote:You people are amazing.
All they did was make the omnis like other scriptable weapons boosting items, such a tracking computers, because omnis (the drone version of a tracking computer) gave twice the bonuses of a TC. It has been balanced as it should.
Now we just need a missile damage application item for midslots, since none exists yet.
For the love of god if a mid slot module ever give an application/range combo like a TC they better make the range portion a missile speed modifier and not flight time. |
Webvan
State Protectorate
Caldari State
337
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Posted - 2014.01.31 01:25:00 -
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Soldarius wrote:Now we just need a missile damage application item for midslots, since none exists yet.
Well there are target painters, but I agree that there should be something more specific to missiles that recoup a bit from the missile nerfs at least at expense to mid slots. Armor tank ships can sacrifice armor for damage (more low slots), but not so for shield tank ships apart from target painting. I've been considering on training up a rattler, but yes I'd prefer to be more close in anyway, and projecting more direct missile damage. I suppose that there are a lot of factors when using universal equipment rather than empire/ship restrictive equipment when trying to work out balancing across the board. If it took say Caldari equipment (some/most) to fit Caldari ships, balancing would be a bit more effortless to work out; more diversification in base technologies between the empires.
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CMD Ishikawa
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2014.02.01 11:49:00 -
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Do you think is dead? Yes it is, hand me that corpse and I'll make it rose from the death to beat the crap out of those evil NPCs.
Rattlesnake is still one of the best battleships out there, yes it got nerf, but that's because it's main weapons system was a little bit OP.
I use it everyday and will keep doing it for a long time because is an awesome ship. |
Taoist Dragon
Bastion of Mad Behaviour
Caldari State Capturing
851
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Posted - 2014.02.01 12:08:00 -
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Gefen Orion wrote:Once again I am forced to adapt. I need to find a new home...for my rattlesnake. That's the only way to beat this omni nerf. Change rats and change sentry and drone priorities.
Adapt or die! Evolution of the fittest works well in EVE. 
If you don't want to adapt go play wow or some shite like that! 
That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
http://taoistdragon.blogspot.com.au/ |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
RAZOR Alliance
342
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Posted - 2014.02.02 05:11:00 -
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CMD Ishikawa wrote:
Rattlesnake is still one of the best battleships out there, yes it got nerf, but that's because it's main weapons system was a little bit OP.
The Rattlesnake is a great looking ship, but it is absolutely terrible. And it is now much worse than it was before.
http://eveion.blogspot.com/ |
Gh0stBust3rs
Wraith Shadow Guards
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
26
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Posted - 2014.02.02 06:43:00 -
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Yes lose more rattlesnakes. I have 10 bpcs sitting in jita right now waiting for the price to semi recover. |
Gefen Orion
Orion Star Ltd.
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Posted - 2014.02.02 10:01:00 -
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Taoist Dragon wrote:Gefen Orion wrote:Once again I am forced to adapt. I need to find a new home...for my rattlesnake. That's the only way to beat this omni nerf. Change rats and change sentry and drone priorities. Adapt or die! Evolution of the fittest works well in EVE. If you don't want to adapt go play wow or some shite like that!
Read and comprehend. It's really not that hard. |
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