This is limited to the recruitment channel, and not outside of it. No big deal, pretty good policy as usually only new players use it.


Misleading title is misleading.

From the recruitment channel:

Channel MOTD changed to "Welcome to the recruitment channel....No scamming is allowed in this channel and this includes, but not limited to, using the recruitment channel as a platform to find or target players to scam. As per subject, we ask everyone to use their best judgment before contracting assets or ISK as part of corporationGÇÖs recruitment process and any deals made or finalized outside this channel are done at your own risk and responsibility. An additional recruitment source is the Alliance and Corporation Recruitment Center section of the forums. by GM Thunder

First wardecs are basically made useless, insurance is removed for gankers, and now this? How long until PVP flags?

Maybe they're trying to retain subscribers?

No way. That will cause griefers to feel as if they are not wanted and they will not subscribe.

New Goons discover fairly quickly that posting recruitment ads in the Recruitment channel doesn't work (apparently there are a bunch of players who literally do nothing in game but sit and wait for Goons to be mentioned so they can cry about us scamming them to other players) so we just have them look for dumb people looking for a corp and then convo them privately. Business has been good lately.

One of our newer members scammed 500 million from some pubbie within 30 minutes of joining Goonwaffe.

He's a goddamn Goon hero.

Hmm, Test tears taste like Goon tears, interesting.

I support CCP's decision on this matter!

EVE Online is refreshing mainly in that you can be anti-social and scam, attack, extort, bully, etc, other players without facing repercussions to your account (ie, bans and closures). EVE Online is player driven, and thus, all consequences to a scammer come from the EVE Online community, not the producers of EVE Online.

However, because certain groups *coughahemGOONSANDTESTALLIANCEcoughahem* abuse these privileges, many other impressionable players who may not be so good at choosing role models follow suite, and there are now a plethora of "tear collection" hi-sec griefer-corps. Considering that most new players don't even make it 1 year in large part due to scammers, griefers, and the all-around anti-social and abusive play environment that (a minority) of players create for those around them, CCP has to walk on a fine line and uphold a delicate balance, bearing in mind that any given griefernoob can cancel their account/s at any given time, despite CCP doing everything they can to allow the griefing. On the other hand, many players close their accounts due to griefing.

From a business perspective, right now CCP needs to focus on retaining new players, and a big part of that is making EVE "user friendly".

For additional perspective: There are 20,000 trial accounts created each month. EVE gains how many subscribers each month..?

Also:

some people cannot read.

Irony tickles me pink, and you just made my day. Thank you for that.

I support CCP's decision on this matter!

EVE Online is refreshing mainly in that you can be anti-social and scam, attack, extort, bully, etc, other players without facing repercussions to your account (ie, bans and closures). EVE Online is player driven, and thus, all consequences to a scammer come from the EVE Online community, not the producers of EVE Online.

However, because certain groups *coughahemGOONSANDTESTALLIANCEcoughahem* abuse these privileges, many other impressionable players who may not be so good at choosing role models follow suite, and there are now a plethora of "tear collection" hi-sec griefer-corps. Considering that most new players don't even make it 1 year in large part due to scammers, griefers, and the all-around anti-social and abusive play environment that (a minority) of players create for those around them, CCP has to walk on a fine line and uphold a delicate balance, bearing in mind that any given griefernoob can cancel their account/s at any given time, despite CCP doing everything they can to allow the griefing. On the other hand, many players close their accounts due to griefing.

From a business perspective, right now CCP needs to focus on retaining new players, and a big part of that is making EVE "user friendly".

For additional perspective: There are 20,000 trial accounts created each month. EVE gains how many subscribers each month..?

Also:

lol you think this is going to stop recruitment scams.

"we ask everyone to use their best judgment before contracting assets or ISK as part of corporationGÇÖs recruitment process and any deals made or finalized outside this channel are done at your own risk and responsibility."

Wow, wasn't aware this was Hello Kitty online, I must be in the wrong foru... oh, nope, this is EVE.

Huh. That's pretty freaking stupid. What were the CSM thinking not throwing a fit about...

Oh, they weren't consulted. At all. Of course not.


Apparently CEO Hello Kitty (throw in a "mar" there if you want, I couldn't find a spot that made sense) is unaware of what game he's actually in charge of. Wouldn't surprise me, based on how out of touch he and the upper reaches of CCP are nowadays.

What's next, being mean to each other will be bannable? Calling someone an idiot in local will get you Concorded? Oh, Oh, I know, lets just disable targeting other player ships from the hours of 12 PM to 11 AM Icelandic time, that'll make sure there's a good experience for everyone, right?

No vision, no direction, no clue. CCP 2011.

Wow, wasn't aware this was Hello Kitty online, I must be in the wrong foru... oh, nope, this is EVE.

Huh. That's pretty freaking stupid. What were the CSM thinking not throwing a fit about...

Oh, they weren't consulted. At all. Of course not.


Apparently CEO Hello Kitty (throw in a "mar" there if you want, I couldn't find a spot that made sense) is unaware of what game he's actually in charge of. Wouldn't surprise me, based on how out of touch he and the upper reaches of CCP are nowadays.

What's next, being mean to each other will be bannable? Calling someone an idiot in local will get you Concorded? Oh, Oh, I know, lets just disable targeting other player ships from the hours of 12 PM to 11 AM Icelandic time, that'll make sure there's a good experience for everyone, right?

No vision, no direction, no clue. CCP 2011.

Reading comprehension. Get some.

lol you still think this is going to stop recruitment scams.

It's one thing to make an honest error in judgement, but now you're just being willfully ignorant.

Okay show me where CCP has said that recruitment scams are now against the ToS and I'll apologize for my ignorance. Here's a hint: It's not in the Recruitment channel MOTD.

It's one thing to make an honest error in judgement, but now you're just being willfully ignorant.

I miss the part where I said anything about CCP making recruitment scams against the ToS.

Yet another who did not read the important part of the post mentioning that recruitment scams outside of the official help channel are still allowed.

Reading comprehension. Get some.



Good for CCP, I'm glad they posted that. I'm sure it chaffes the Goons, but I've said for years: The Goons are no good for EVE, anyway.



Your rhetoric is pretty weak. and your bias is obvious. 4/10

CCP is not "out of touch". Quite the opposite: They are in-touch with the market and the new players that are flooding into EVE, but for some reason, not sticking around. CCP is trying to retain players. Unfortunately for Goonswarm (the stated mission of which is to grief people until they quit playing...) this may not fit their agenda and desires.

Then why do you keep insisting that the MOTD in the Recruitment channel is going to end recruitment scamming? You are not making any sense.