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Trevedian
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Posted - 2006.04.05 03:12:00 -
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Edited by: Trevedian on 05/04/2006 03:15:13 I just had to share this story about video games being offered to convicts as a reward for good behavior. Prisoners get to play 50 games on a flatscreen if they've been "Good Boys".
A link to the article can be found; Here
Sadly, "Grand Theft Auto" is not available atm in this program.
The thought of prison used to scare me, all that lifting weights and armwrestling Bubba for a pack of cigarettes never appealed to me. But "Video Games in Prison" WOOT!
"Hard Time" wouldn't seem so hard if you could just play video games to pass the time. What do people thing of this? You jealous?
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.04.05 03:17:00 -
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Think of how bad we'd own them all though...
On the other hand.... They'd probably start their own player corps and have all their jail buddy '*****es' that wear mops on their heads to look like lil school girls run mining ops while they give them bj's in the entertainment room.
Probably a good idea not to offer GTA 
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Micia
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Posted - 2006.04.05 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: Trevedian "Hard Time" wouldn't seem so hard if you could just play video games to pass the time. What do people thing of this? You jealous?
No game is worth 20,000 years in Sing Sing  _______ Join our team of Industrialists & Miners |

Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2006.04.05 03:23:00 -
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That would explain some of our recent encounters.
Remind me about The Maze.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.04.05 04:23:00 -
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Hey, now they can finally make corp theft illegal, because even though the players get sent to jail, they can keep playing EVE! Everybody wins!  -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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Kosaki Yumagichi
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Posted - 2006.04.05 04:50:00 -
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I cannot think of a single reward for good behavior that would make up for having do endure endless 'encounters' in the shower or 'creative' uses of utensils, such as spoons.
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Corbin Devereux
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Posted - 2006.04.05 05:57:00 -
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Your tax dollars at work...
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The1
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Posted - 2006.04.05 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: Corbin Devereux Your tax dollars at work...
What he said 
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2006.04.05 06:00:00 -
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i want to go there too..
"We brake for nobody"
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.04.05 06:06:00 -
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Oregon = US = privately owned prisons = set amount of public cash per customer. Those not causing any troubles and raised expenses in 18 months might be worth the little bonus of the handheld console (and thus no EVE). --*=*=*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |

F'nog
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Posted - 2006.04.05 08:20:00 -
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Finally there's something I can be successful at in prison. I can trade my leet gaming skills for not having to meet Ben Dover in the shower!
Originally by: Bl4zer But, cmon, this is the Eve forums, we don't let facts get in the way of pointless speculation.
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Ann Mari
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Posted - 2006.04.05 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Micia
Originally by: Trevedian "Hard Time" wouldn't seem so hard if you could just play video games to pass the time. What do people thing of this? You jealous?
No game is worth 20,000 years in Sing Liason 
fixed 
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"There can be no justice, if rules are absolute" "The enemy of my enemy, is my friend"
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babyblue
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Posted - 2006.04.05 08:33:00 -
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"I dropped my Zydrine. Bend over and pick it up" .
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Ank Myrandor
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Posted - 2006.04.05 08:42:00 -
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games in prison is normal in the netherlands , also tV pool tables :| yes there are some with :| and even frikkn a little bar <-- which they had to close when whole NL found out about it :P ghehehe
but even everyone has his own fridge because maybe else there will be fights :| that sorta stuff , and here they still think its weird that homeless people commit crimes to be in a nice warm place with more stuff then they have on the streets 
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.04.05 08:49:00 -
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Prisoners playing EvE?
I see a huge Pirate invasion coming soon. Maybe the warden forces them to do mining? Who knows.   ----------------
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Copine Callmeknau
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Posted - 2006.04.05 08:56:00 -
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I dunno, I'd be slightly more worried about the people that say 'I'm gonna ******* kill you n00b'
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With five million sheep in this army I seem to be the only one fit to command
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Destises
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Posted - 2006.04.05 09:03:00 -
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I'd rather have criminals sitting at a computer for hours than have them lifting weights imo, unless they're researching how to commit more crimes.
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Marcsen
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Posted - 2006.04.05 10:09:00 -
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I think video games in prison are definitely a good idea.
As scary as they may look on TV, most of the inmates are good at heart but made a mistake at some point of their life.
I only have second hand knowledge, but prison is all about passing time for the majority of the inmates.
We all know how fast time is passing while playing games. "Ohhh, 6 o'clock in the morning already? I was only gonna finish this mission!" anyone?
The chance to get to spend a notable amount of time on the computer will definitely encourage people to show good behaviour rather than the expectation to get a job in the laundry. Prisoners may only take one or two showers per week, mind you 
A lot more arguments spring to mind, but no one is gonna read them all anyway.  Its a good idea, and i'd like to see it in germany too.
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Brisi
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Posted - 2006.04.05 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Corbin Devereux Your tax dollars at work...
So you'd rather have inmates just sitting on their asses for 12 hours a day, growing tired of life and even more ****** up than they were, when they did whatever they got thrown in there for?
Or would you rather have them play Pacman and actually have a change to get rehabilitated?
I see your point...(not )
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John Mathias
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Posted - 2006.04.05 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Brisi
Originally by: Corbin Devereux Your tax dollars at work...
So you'd rather have inmates just sitting on their asses for 12 hours a day, growing tired of life and even more ****** up than they were, when they did whatever they got thrown in there for?
Or would you rather have them play Pacman and actually have a change to get rehabilitated?
I see your point...(not )
I saw in the article that 95% of them will be comming back to jail again anyway. I'm guessing it has to do with letting them play pacman rather than beating them with rusty chains.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:03:00 -
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Does anyone else think that going to prison should you know.... Be a punishment ?
Prehaps not in the non secure facilities (the ones where ppl are close to paroll and could technicly just wander out anyway...) But my hard earned money taken away from me in tax really shouldn't be for them to play video games 
As to someone saying "this is to rehabilitate them" umm right ? Afaik you can take qualifications while in prison, even degree's. And thats surely the way ppl should be encouraged rather than "if you dont beat someone up today you can play eve for a bit "
Its a big enough ******* joke that I pay taxes for the police force for the large part to do absolutely **** all usefull.... but this just takes the pee 
Alliaanna
Official Follower of =-= Royal Hiigaran Navy =-= |

Gonada
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:04:00 -
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terrible idea
yes please lets reward the guy that killed your mother with the ability to be happy, play vid games.
yes please reward the person who raped your sister, stole your car and torched it, burned your house down, sold ***** on the corner... you get it?
prisons are for bad people, period. Time is supposed to be hard, to make them realize what they did is wrong.
prisons are too easy nowdays imho
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
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John Mathias
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Marcsen As scary as they may look on TV, most of the inmates are good at heart but made a mistake at some point of their life.
Did you read the statistic on the article? It says 95% of them are repeat offenders. Jail is not the place for entertainment. Home is for entertainment. They'd be home and entertained if they didn't kill 5 people. I want jail to make a good enough impression on them so that they won't want a second helping. Not a slap on the wrist followed by free pacman. I support spending the money on clubs and other bludgeoning instruments that the guards can beat them with at random.
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Flyyn
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:06:00 -
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Screw the games gadget I like the part of Ice Cream after 18 months of good behavior   
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John Mathias
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Flyyn Screw the games gadget I like the part of Ice Cream after 18 months of good behavior   
I missed that. WTF? They get icecream too? Nobody else thinks the government buying the unibomber icecream with OUR money is a bit insane?
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Konietzko
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:11:00 -
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Dropping them off on a remote island and allowing them to fight to the death is probably a better waste of their time and our money.
[botox bandits : pirates]
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dmaul raven
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Trevedian Edited by: Trevedian on 05/04/2006 03:15:13 I just had to share this story about video games being offered to convicts as a reward for good behavior. Prisoners get to play 50 games on a flatscreen if they've been "Good Boys".
A link to the article can be found; Here
Sadly, "Grand Theft Auto" is not available atm in this program.
The thought of prison used to scare me, all that lifting weights and armwrestling Bubba for a pack of cigarettes never appealed to me. But "Video Games in Prison" WOOT!
"Hard Time" wouldn't seem so hard if you could just play video games to pass the time. What do people thing of this? You jealous?
Time to kill someone, so i can play eve for free   -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Capone McFredrik
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Prisoners playing EvE?
I`m playing EVE and I`m probby going to prison if my lawyer dosent come up with something soon... So if that counts - yes!
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Brisi
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada
prisons are for bad people, period. Time is supposed to be hard, to make them realize what they did is wrong.
prisons are too easy nowdays imho
Problem is that 'doing hard time' doesn't make them realise that what they did was wrong. If they spend their time in there beating people up, raping each other, assaulting warders, and dealing drugs, then how does that rehabilitate them?
Fact to the matter is, that most people who've comited murder/*****or whatever, will not change no matter what you do to them. But those guys are in there for 20 to life anyway. The mass population of people in jail are someone who might have sold some dope, stole something, etc etc etc. It was wrong yes, but would you really rather have them go in there as thieves, and come out as murderers? If letting them play video games helps them get rehabilitated, then so be it.
Oh, and:
Originally by: John Mathias Did you read the statistic on the article? It says 95% of them are repeat offenders. Jail is not the place for entertainment.
Did you even read the article? Because this was what was said:
Originally by: Article This was important, said Ms Damon, because 95% of the state's prisoners will eventually return to the community.
The community here is not the prison community.
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DoctorColossal Pervius
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:23:00 -
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We are all imprisoned slaves to the EVE mistress my friends
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James Snowscoran
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: John Mathias
Originally by: Marcsen As scary as they may look on TV, most of the inmates are good at heart but made a mistake at some point of their life.
Did you read the statistic on the article? It says 95% of them are repeat offenders. Jail is not the place for entertainment. Home is for entertainment. They'd be home and entertained if they didn't kill 5 people. I want jail to make a good enough impression on them so that they won't want a second helping. Not a slap on the wrist followed by free pacman. I support spending the money on clubs and other bludgeoning instruments that the guards can beat them with at random.
Quote: Instead, she said, the TVs, music players and game gadgets were part of a larger programme that tried to modify prisoner behaviour and make rehabilitation easier.
This was important, said Ms Damon, because 95% of the state's prisoners will eventually return to the community.
When she says 'the community', I do think she's referring to the community outside, ie 95% of the people will some day return to life outside the walls, which makes a hell of a lot more sense than 95% being repeat offenders.
Quote: Inmates earn the money for the tiny TV, which costs $300, via the wages they earn doing jobs while serving their sentence.
Tax money is pretty irrelevant here- you may note that the prisoners still had to buy the consoles with money they earn doing a job inside the walls. Which means that the consoles incur no additional costs for the government. -----
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Capone McFredrik
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:31:00 -
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Well, american prisons is a billion-dollar industry - in Norway the prisons cost the government millions because prisoners don`t work... too bad if you ask me... I think games and other stuff is good for prisoners to have a social life more compared to what they will meet when they get out... 
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Doh Tajori
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:32:00 -
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what do you know about eve-community not beein jail-birds or ex ones? dont presume and BTW many prisons in europe allow video-gaming and computer gaming, web surfing. Dont speak for us all.
If you start dizzin prisons and its ppl and its ppl's rights, dont get supprised if someone in EVE will "shank" you!!!
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Alita Tiphares
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Corbin Devereux Your tax dollars at work...
aye, anyone that has ever been convicted of a crime should be insta executed or dumped on an island far from any civilization or something.
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Galmar Sarum
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:33:00 -
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Whoaa neat!
Just imagine, all you have to do is stab somone and you can spend all day playing eve with people paying your bills and brining you food ocasionally, you dont have to bother with all those little details like "what shall i have to eat".
Sounds like paradise to me.
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Doh Tajori
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Alita Tiphares
Originally by: Corbin Devereux Your tax dollars at work...
aye, anyone that has ever been convicted of a crime should be insta executed or dumped on an island far from any civilization or something.
kid when you grow up, perhaps youll one day go to jail. What if your mom gets slashed up? wouldnt you kill the guy? or your kid gets beaten up? **** you might smoke some in college dude. Damn cant stand kid's and their view of the world from Disney Channel!
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Doh Tajori
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Galmar Sarum Whoaa neat!
Just imagine, all you have to do is stab somone and you can spend all day playing eve with people paying your bills and brining you food ocasionally, you dont have to bother with all those little details like "what shall i have to eat".
Sounds like paradise to me.
yeah its so great, prison food, the lovely ass raping community, the small sweet smelling cell, working in a factory all day making "shank's" to use in the prison war, sharing computers (gettin shanked for usin it to long,) can't ever go out, cant **** girls only guys , unless you got connections. List can go on, yeah "HEAVEN"!
*works 2years to afford eve*
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:50:00 -
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mmm for heavy offenders (max security) murder and heavy crimes no let em rot esp for life inprisonment but .... for minimum security perhaps for minor offenses then yes as a reward i can see video games being a part of a reward system for good behaviour.
Tho such games should not be connected to outside world can u imagine player x telling his lawyer player y to organise a hit on someone who put him away - the network should be within the jail system perhaps across several prisons. That could work - perhaps only strategy games (shoting games woudl be out ofc) make em think something like civ 4 online or some similar game.
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Doh Tajori
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord mmm for heavy offenders (max security) murder and heavy crimes no let em rot esp for life inprisonment but .... for minimum security perhaps for minor offenses then yes as a reward i can see video games being a part of a reward system for good behaviour.
Tho such games should not be connected to outside world can u imagine player x telling his lawyer player y to organise a hit on someone who put him away - the network should be within the jail system perhaps across several prisons. That could work - perhaps only strategy games (shoting games woudl be out ofc) make em think something like civ 4 online or some similar game.
lol hahahaha I would play that game, shooting games is out? lol yeah dont wanna give them idea's or what? and if you dont have it for maximum security prisoners serving life what do you suppose they do instead? kill the guards?
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Sefria
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:11:00 -
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Ok I work in a max sec prison in Indiana and i can tell you from personal experiance that an inmate with unsupervised contact to the outside world is nothing but a bad idea, besides they have plenty of other stuff they can do. everybody thinks that they are locked up 90%of the day but in truth they are only in the cells more like 35% unless they are in a segregation unit for doing something they shouldnt have done and in that case its more like 75%.
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Ellohem
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Posted - 2006.04.05 15:44:00 -
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Personally i think if your in prison, your there to be punished... Which in my mind should be No TV, No Computers, No games, No phones, No Consoles, No gym's. Cheap food, Water, Books and the odd lesson in respect for others... Then get the F**kers cleaning the streets  
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.04.05 15:52:00 -
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I'm currently typing this from my vietnamese cell.
be sure to eve-mail me if you want to cyb0r.
lots of love,
Garry Glitter XXX
no skills, just luck.
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eLLioTT wave
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Posted - 2006.04.05 16:08:00 -
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look to our asian neighbours' history for how to punish criminals.
small cell in the ground, maybe 2m x 1m, fed through ***** in the roof, never get let out till their sentence is up.
you think they ever commit that crime again?
think they are having fun in prison?
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Jorauk

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Posted - 2006.04.05 16:20:00 -
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Way, way too many vulgarities and profanities as a result of this thread, which is barely on-topic for this forum in the first place.
*Click*
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