its an exploit due to people useing low isk items with a high collateral and then pastic wrapped so you dont know its a simple 1 isk item or something so its a case of Bait then gank.. its literally a mechanic to pay people to gank you and its flawed and wrong

The OP still doesn't understand that there is no fix for this. Sure CCP could prevent this case from happening, but even if they had the OP would still be in the same boat. Why because the scammer would have simply used an alt to create the contract. Fixing this issue won't change the ability to pull this scam, and then is no way to prevent the scam from happening.

because it makes the scam far to easy, and it just doesnt make sense either

I don't want the scam to be fixed at all, please read my posts. using an alt is a clever way to scam people. I just think they should not be allowed to use the contract issuer because it makes the scam far to easy, and it just doesnt make sense either

Calling troll.

Translation: "I was greedy, and took a large risk involving a courier contract that led me through a predictable pipe. I did not bother to take any precautions. The contract was bait, and I got burned."

There's a reason why Red Frog accepts contracts with low-skilled contracting alts, and does the actual shipping on an out-of-corp basis. You are now aware of the reason. Bait contracts are a pretty ancient thing in EVE. If you plan to make money as a courier, you need to be prepared for it.

That is a pretty good point. Any sane person would consider the contract void. But then again, what if the guy that attacked you is your friend and he is just testing his guns on your ship. You should be able to manually cancel the contracts. That would make more sense.

Yeah legally if you enter into a contract the contract is automatically voided if the person issuing the contract deliberately makes it unable to be fulfilled. At least in English law / Australian law.

My solution.

Add a public standing system for contracts where players can rate people who make contracts (along with maybe giving them a little bit of space to comment about it) Similar to most auction websites, and leaving feedback on sellers.
Similarly, have another one where you can rate couriers you hire.

Make it so only people who have done a job for them can rate/comment. Perhaps make it so that players can also post a list of previously done successful/failed contracts.

This however could ALSO be exploited. Players could make alts and run lots of "padding" contracts, and give themselves great ratings. I liek this form of fun better though than the current system.

I join corp, corpies attack me and I lose ISK, guess what, I can leave the corp, yay!!!

I go into low-sec and get killed, guess what, I can leave low-sec, yay!!!

I make contract with guy and give put up tons of collateral to reflect my honesty, he turns around and kills me in high sec, guess what, he gets the collateral given to him for his crime, dafug?!?!? there is no way out like other aspects of EVE.

My solution.

Add a public standing system for contracts where players can rate people who make contracts (along with maybe giving them a little bit of space to comment about it) Similar to most auction websites, and leaving feedback on sellers.
Similarly, have another one where you can rate couriers you hire.

Make it so only people who have done a job for them can rate/comment. Perhaps make it so that players can also post a list of previously done successful/failed contracts.

This however could ALSO be exploited. Players could make alts and run lots of "padding" contracts, and give themselves great ratings. I liek this form of fun better though than the current system.

All of this is a moot point. Nothing will stop these scams from just having a friend or alt issue the contract. I'm actually REALLY surprised it was the same char and not an alt to begin with. All of this goes back to do your research, KNOW what you're doing, and take every precaution. But Freighter Pilots seem to(judging on thread after thread of 'nerf the gankers/give my freighter infini-EHP') think they can just cruise along afk/autopiloting their merry way along with no risk, consequence, or otherwise.


Well.... to OP and Every other 'My Poor Freighter' thread out there.... Wake up, Buttercup, and welcome to Eve.

I'll echo what was said earlier:

That this was the same character that did this is extremely surprising in and of itself. Contract scamming like this has been going on for a LONG time. You should have seen this with some research.

Also like has been said, you accepted the risk when you paid the collateral. I'm also P sure he's not the only one that shot you since 1 ship can't gank a freighter, so how would you define that?

I'll echo what was said earlier:

That this was the same character that did this is extremely surprising in and of itself. Contract scamming like this has been going on for a LONG time. You should have seen this with some research.

Also like has been said, you accepted the risk when you paid the collateral. I'm also P sure he's not the only one that shot you since 1 ship can't gank a freighter, so how would you define that?

What he didn't tell us was that the contract was for 1 trit at 2bil collateral from Jita -> Hek thru Rancer.

Basically the contracter attacked in order to give me the log-off timer so I couldn't just disappear after a while, others then came to kill me after a bit, I was being bumped by yet another person so I couldn't align.

If someone other than the contractor had given me that timer this post would not exist as I would simply accept it as another fair loss.

In a game that prides itself on the fact that friends are likely to stab you in the back, it makes perfect sense as it is.

You open yourself up to the loss of any ship by anyone, as soon as you undock. Changing the contract system for the OP in this instance, will not prevent this from happening. People will still seed gank contacts, just as they have since.....forever.