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BobZumda	Posted - 2006.04.07 16:56:00 - [31] Originally by: Sovy Kurosei Originally by: Selak Zorander Originally by: mirel yirrin Originally by: Sovy Kurosei I think that ship is the Serpentis mothership, a Nyx. Gallante. And no its not. Seems to be a Caldari one. actually it is the Gallante Thanatos. it is just rocked up on its side in that shot (or the camera view is from below.) Right, my eyes must be going bad. I thought that dreadnaught in the background was a megathron. I think what you mean to say is that you confused that Brutix with a Dread naught with a Megathron.
Stahlregen	Posted - 2006.04.07 17:00:00 - [32] Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 07/04/2006 16:54:05 Originally by: Stahlregen Originally by: Stahlregen Also, Your all wrong, It was a cosmos mission he was doing for a friend who let the timer run out and had something insane like 20 Navy Jakars warp in and another 50 or so cruisers. We later finished the mission. Am i that hard to miss? Well you DID just edit that in. 20 Jakars, eh? thinks I could handle that. Maybe not if they all warped in on us, though. We'd probably have to warp and come back. So what was the bug? It was the warp bug already stated above by someone. "Don't worry, My friend is just admiring the shape of your skull-throne."
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.04.07 17:01:00 - [33] Originally by: Nyphur So what was the bug? he hit undock with a good setup, and ended up with 3 reppers Win a Cerberus!! sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:\|. - Teblin
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.07 17:02:00 - [34] Edited by: Nyphur on 07/04/2006 17:03:03 Originally by: Stahlregen It was the warp bug already stated above by someone. Ah, right. That's one the GMs can confirm, I guess. Glad to see everything worked out. If you have it handy, is there any proof that there's a level 3 cosmos mission in existance in which 20 navy Jakars and over 50 cruisers will warp in? Ever? The BS I can believe but I've never heard of missions, even cosmos ones, spawning 50 of something. Over 70 ships is more than most levels of a 10/10 will throw at you. Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: Nyphur So what was the bug? he hit undock with a good setup, and ended up with 3 reppers Ooh, burned ^^; Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Sadayiel	Posted - 2006.04.07 17:03:00 - [35] there is only 4 ships u can recognize in that pic. 1st is a Thanatos from Below Yes they seems to fly backwards. 2nd 2 apoc Smacking the Carrier just up and down 3rd The last ship in the pic also in gang with the guy is a frigging Brutix!!! Dreadnoughts neither have wings at the rear side or such shapped front side. -------------------Sig----------------------- S.S.E. currently recruiting new players. Convo me or leave an eve-mail. Suicide it's man way to tell God. You can't fire me so I quit.
Sovy Kurosei	Posted - 2006.04.07 17:09:00 - [36] The heck, I thought it was a Moros. --- Punishers 4TW!
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.07 17:11:00 - [37] Originally by: Sovy Kurosei The heck, I thought it was a Moros. Same. The designs are quite similar from a distance. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
JP Beauregard	Posted - 2006.04.07 17:20:00 - [38] Is anyone else looking at the overview in sheer disbelief? Where do you start? Btw, since when are there Cosmos missions in Covryn? I'll assume the gentleman with the reprehensible name meant RMR mission (as in new, omg, we're clueless, ruuuuun) and wasn't looking to give the impression that any pilot would have been overpowered like this by design... JP Beauregard ============================== Please stop treating me like you were an idiot.
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.07 17:29:00 - [39] Originally by: JP Beauregard Is anyone else looking at the overview in sheer disbelief? Where do you start? Btw, since when are there Cosmos missions in Covryn? I'll assume the gentleman with the reprehensible name meant RMR mission (as in new, omg, we're clueless, ruuuuun) and wasn't looking to give the impression that any pilot would have been overpowered like this by design... Hah! I didn't even pick up on the system name. The only thing in Covryn is a Serpentis Phi Outpost, which is clearly 6.2AU away. In the text, they talk about level 3 missions and a control tower. In Portal to War level 3, there final area has two cathedrals and a control tower. I made the mistake of thinking I had to blow up the control tower, but it was the cathedral we had to blow up. If you don't do it in time, a fleet of 10 BS, 10 cruisers and 10 frigs warp in. The screenshot shows roughly that fleet minus a few ships. I call bull****. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Ithildin	Posted - 2006.04.07 17:37:00 - [40] Edited by: Ithildin on 07/04/2006 17:38:36 Let's see. * As has been pointed out, that's a Thanatos, nothing else. * That is Placid, meaning the mission rats are probably from a level 3 mission where there's a timer before the rats in the mission get "reinforcements". Notice how this timer was increased in a recent patch. * The pilot who took this screenshot revealed himself to be using a portrait exploit. The modification of what portraits shown is not permitted by the EULA. (Otherwise this would have been a simple way of spotting enemies in Jita local, just scroll down and look at portraits) * The blacked-out images with a light blue background are, in the original screenshot, actually portraits of (forum sensor) the third reich's leader. * I have no idea if it was photoshopped or not. Arkanor > Gallente missileboat might be cool. KilROCK > Pod yourself till you got no skills left
Pottsey	Posted - 2006.04.07 17:43:00 - [41] On a completely different note how did they get that shield hitpoints 0.0/26.400 number to show? I never get that on my ships. What option am I missing? _________________________________________________ Nominate famous people in Eve who had an impact on you.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.04.07 17:45:00 - [42] @pottsey: rclick the little arrow that shows/hides modules. hit "show readout" @ithildan: if you really want to be a sleuth, you should have noticed that i toned down one of the words in the chat Win a Cerberus!! sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:\|. - Teblin
Pottsey	Posted - 2006.04.07 17:47:00 - [43] Great, I owe you one of that tip. You know one of these days I have to make a website full of all those hidden away options and tips. In fact I am going make a tread on it now. _________________________________________________ Nominate famous people in Eve who had an impact on you.
Zyncast	Posted - 2006.04.07 17:49:00 - [44] Originally by: Ithildin * The pilot who took this screenshot revealed himself to be using a portrait exploit. The modification of what portraits shown is not permitted by the EULA. I have on good authority that it is not and in fact many corporations do this.
ElCoCo	Posted - 2006.04.07 17:54:00 - [45] Originally by: Zyncast Originally by: Ithildin * The pilot who took this screenshot revealed himself to be using a portrait exploit. The modification of what portraits shown is not permitted by the EULA. I have on good authority that it is not and in fact many corporations do this. BS. To do that you need to edit gamefiles (the small portraits pics) which is prohibited.
Aridia Parker	Posted - 2006.04.07 17:56:00 - [46] Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui Edited by: D''onryu Shoqui on 07/04/2006 16:20:31 looks like the level 3 mission that has the massive amarr fleet of like 20BS + loads of other smaller ships that you arent suposed to kill if its the mission im thinking of you are suposed to enter the gate of the last stage and kill a little frig then the mission is over and theres an amarr fleet sat 300km away. heres a pic of the fleet your not suposed to kill http://snoop1050.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/amarrfleet.jpg I think u are talking about "The human kettle" which is a level 2 mission.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.04.07 17:57:00 - [47] Originally by: Aridia Parker I think u are talking about "The human kettle" which is a level 2 mission. is it just me, or does boiling water inside someone sound mean? Win a Cerberus!! sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:\|. - Teblin
Alzaria Lassem	Posted - 2006.04.07 17:58:00 - [48] Originally by: ElCoCo Originally by: Zyncast Originally by: Ithildin * The pilot who took this screenshot revealed himself to be using a portrait exploit. The modification of what portraits shown is not permitted by the EULA. I have on good authority that it is not and in fact many corporations do this. BS. To do that you need to edit gamefiles (the small portraits pics) which is prohibited. I do believe that a GM disagreed with you when they were asked.
JP Beauregard	Posted - 2006.04.07 18:02:00 - [49] Originally by: Zyncast Originally by: Ithildin * The pilot who took this screenshot revealed himself to be using a portrait exploit. The modification of what portraits shown is not permitted by the EULA. I have on good authority that it is not and in fact many corporations do this. Nonsense. This very topic came up in Help this afternoon and quickly drew GM Xhagen's attention. He actually confirmed that having the client execute your own Python scripts is not permitted: Quote: [ 2006.04.07 14:22:47 ] cletus snow > Does anyone have that thing that shows portraits in local with Alliance name and stuff [ 2006.04.07 14:22:54 ] Safron Zy > if your frigate skill is high enough some of the frigates have decent capacity [ 2006.04.07 14:23:05 ] JP Beauregard > Huh? [ 2006.04.07 14:23:13 ] cletus snow > kestrel has 300m3, which is good for mineral transporting [ 2006.04.07 14:23:25 ] Kharq > Probe get over 500 easily. [ 2006.04.07 14:23:27 ] cletus snow > some python file you paste into eve [ 2006.04.07 14:23:30 ] Kharq > gets [ 2006.04.07 14:23:46 ] Crucigrl > I got around 430m3 capacity right now, and looking for more [ 2006.04.07 14:23:48 ] JP Beauregard > Oh, you mean like an illegal change to the code? [ 2006.04.07 14:23:57 ] JP Beauregard > /emote rings the seal bell. [ 2006.04.07 14:24:09 ] cletus snow > Supposedly its not "illegal" [ 2006.04.07 14:24:14 ] cletus snow > this particular thingy [ 2006.04.07 14:24:33 ] Rincey > exequror gallente [ 2006.04.07 14:24:33 ] Safron Zy > crucigrl: you could also try putting a medium container in there, that would give you a bit more space [ 2006.04.07 14:24:38 ] JP Beauregard > Says who? [ 2006.04.07 14:24:46 ] Crucigrl > I could do [ 2006.04.07 14:25:06 ] cletus snow > "Supposedly" a GM said it was ok [ 2006.04.07 14:25:14 ] cletus snow > thast why i am saking [ 2006.04.07 14:25:18 ] JP Beauregard > Uhuh. And you got that straight from your dealer? [ 2006.04.07 14:25:20 ] cletus snow > asking [ 2006.04.07 14:25:29 ] cletus snow > im just asking [ 2006.04.07 14:25:34 ] cletus snow > i dont have it [ 2006.04.07 14:26:16 ] Crucigrl > What's the name of the medium cargoholders? [ 2006.04.07 14:26:20 ] JP Beauregard > Seriously, you actually believed adding code to be executed bby the client is permissible? My own memory of the intricacies of the EULA is faint but, no.... [ 2006.04.07 14:26:36 ] cletus snow > Thats what i assumed [ 2006.04.07 14:27:24 ] cletus snow > But CCP are hypocrits [ 2006.04.07 14:27:29 ] Kharq > Crucigrl, cargo expanders? They only come in one size, offer a percentage expansion. [ 2006.04.07 14:27:39 ] GM Xhagen > cletus snow: explain please :) [ 2006.04.07 14:27:53 ] Barbarosa > rut ro [ 2006.04.07 14:27:54 ] Prospero 1 > Red Type = GM [ 2006.04.07 14:27:55 ] GM Xhagen > and the answer to your question is, no, it is not allowed to change the client in this way Yeah, I know. I too was shocked. Not. JP Beauregard ============================== Please stop treating me like you were an idiot.
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.07 18:03:00 - [50] Originally by: Aridia Parker Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui Edited by: D''onryu Shoqui on 07/04/2006 16:20:31 looks like the level 3 mission that has the massive amarr fleet of like 20BS + loads of other smaller ships that you arent suposed to kill if its the mission im thinking of you are suposed to enter the gate of the last stage and kill a little frig then the mission is over and theres an amarr fleet sat 300km away. heres a pic of the fleet your not suposed to kill http://snoop1050.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/amarrfleet.jpg I think u are talking about "The human kettle" which is a level 2 mission. "Human Cattle", and the fleet is the same as on "Portal To War" level 3, which I aqm pretty damn sure is what they're doing. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Teblin	Posted - 2006.04.07 18:04:00 - [51] Originally by: Zyncast Originally by: Ithildin * The pilot who took this screenshot revealed himself to be using a portrait exploit. The modification of what portraits shown is not permitted by the EULA. I have on good authority that it is not and in fact many corporations do this. Just thought I'd chime in here and settle this. Modifying the game files, client or client operation in any way is a violation of the EULA. Yes, that includes portraits. It can be met with anything up to and including permanant game bans. forum rules \| [email protected]
Anna Dia	Posted - 2006.04.07 18:04:00 - [52] Originally by: JP Beauregard Originally by: Zyncast Originally by: Ithildin * The pilot who took this screenshot revealed himself to be using a portrait exploit. The modification of what portraits shown is not permitted by the EULA. I have on good authority that it is not and in fact many corporations do this. Nonsense. This very topic came up in Help this afternoon and quickly drew GM Xhagen's attention. He actually confirmed that having the client execute your own Python scripts is not permitted: Quote: [ 2006.04.07 14:22:47 ] cletus snow > Does anyone have that thing that shows portraits in local with Alliance name and stuff [ 2006.04.07 14:22:54 ] Safron Zy > if your frigate skill is high enough some of the frigates have decent capacity [ 2006.04.07 14:23:05 ] JP Beauregard > Huh? [ 2006.04.07 14:23:13 ] cletus snow > kestrel has 300m3, which is good for mineral transporting [ 2006.04.07 14:23:25 ] Kharq > Probe get over 500 easily. [ 2006.04.07 14:23:27 ] cletus snow > some python file you paste into eve [ 2006.04.07 14:23:30 ] Kharq > gets [ 2006.04.07 14:23:46 ] Crucigrl > I got around 430m3 capacity right now, and looking for more [ 2006.04.07 14:23:48 ] JP Beauregard > Oh, you mean like an illegal change to the code? [ 2006.04.07 14:23:57 ] JP Beauregard > /emote rings the seal bell. [ 2006.04.07 14:24:09 ] cletus snow > Supposedly its not "illegal" [ 2006.04.07 14:24:14 ] cletus snow > this particular thingy [ 2006.04.07 14:24:33 ] Rincey > exequror gallente [ 2006.04.07 14:24:33 ] Safron Zy > crucigrl: you could also try putting a medium container in there, that would give you a bit more space [ 2006.04.07 14:24:38 ] JP Beauregard > Says who? [ 2006.04.07 14:24:46 ] Crucigrl > I could do [ 2006.04.07 14:25:06 ] cletus snow > "Supposedly" a GM said it was ok [ 2006.04.07 14:25:14 ] cletus snow > thast why i am saking [ 2006.04.07 14:25:18 ] JP Beauregard > Uhuh. And you got that straight from your dealer? [ 2006.04.07 14:25:20 ] cletus snow > asking [ 2006.04.07 14:25:29 ] cletus snow > im just asking [ 2006.04.07 14:25:34 ] cletus snow > i dont have it [ 2006.04.07 14:26:16 ] Crucigrl > What's the name of the medium cargoholders? [ 2006.04.07 14:26:20 ] JP Beauregard > Seriously, you actually believed adding code to be executed bby the client is permissible? My own memory of the intricacies of the EULA is faint but, no.... [ 2006.04.07 14:26:36 ] cletus snow > Thats what i assumed [ 2006.04.07 14:27:24 ] cletus snow > But CCP are hypocrits [ 2006.04.07 14:27:29 ] Kharq > Crucigrl, cargo expanders? They only come in one size, offer a percentage expansion. [ 2006.04.07 14:27:39 ] GM Xhagen > cletus snow: explain please :) [ 2006.04.07 14:27:53 ] Barbarosa > rut ro [ 2006.04.07 14:27:54 ] Prospero 1 > Red Type = GM [ 2006.04.07 14:27:55 ] GM Xhagen > and the answer to your question is, no, it is not allowed to change the client in this way Yeah, I know. I too was shocked. Not. It's not a script at all, nor does it take any data from the game itself or anything like that, it's a simple edit of the cache, and was OKed.
Zyncast	Posted - 2006.04.07 18:04:00 - [53] Edited by: Zyncast on 07/04/2006 18:04:39
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.04.07 18:05:00 - [54] "* The pilot who took this screenshot revealed himself to be using a portrait exploit. The modification of what portraits shown is not permitted by the EULA. (Otherwise this would have been a simple way of spotting enemies in Jita local, just scroll down and look at portraits)" Uhmm would there be a point to such modification, really? Since portraits appear to have limited 'time to live' and expire after few days or so, at which point they're back to the "!" mark, especially if one switches between characters. So it seems like one would need to edit lot of files often for that? o.O;
Calenth	Posted - 2006.04.07 18:19:00 - [55] Edited by: Calenth on 07/04/2006 18:21:32 Originally by: Teblin Just thought I'd chime in here and settle this. Modifying the game files, client or client operation in any way is a violation of the EULA. Yes, that includes portraits. It can be met with anything up to and including permanant game bans. Ok, we have a conflicting report then from in-game GM's. Quote: snip The guy who got that GM response was someone we later had to kick from the corp for other reasons, so I guess it's theoretically possible he fabricated it to trick us, but that would be a bit of a stretch. Removed private communication with GMs as per the forum rules - Teblin
ElCoCo	Posted - 2006.04.07 18:26:00 - [56] Surely swoosh must remember the 2year old uproar that occured when some ppl "edited" the game textures to decrease lag and stuff. heh It's obvious it should not be permitted. A 3yr old could realize that and if you disagree I dunno... are you kidding yourself?
ElCoCo	Posted - 2006.04.07 18:33:00 - [57] Originally by: j0sephine edit: btw, the topic says "Please say this was photoshopped before I blanked the portraits" so it really doesn't sound like it's any sort of exploit going? ^^;; If there was an exploit going, the remedial portraits would be identical which they're not... which lead us to another Q... why would you blank them in that screenshot... are they that ugly?
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.04.07 18:37:00 - [58] i posted this before, and it was removed because remedial's portrait was showing that of a man famous for his poor taste in moustaches and genocide. i blanked the portraits myself in order to allow the picture to be posted. Win a Cerberus!! sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:\|. - Teblin
JP Beauregard	Posted - 2006.04.07 18:46:00 - [59] Edited by: JP Beauregard on 07/04/2006 18:48:23 Originally by: HippoKing i posted this before, and it was removed because remedial's portrait was showing that of a man famous for his poor taste in moustaches and genocide. i blanked the portraits myself in order to allow the picture to be posted. Which begs the question why he (and his defender Stahlregen, obviously a reference to "In Stahlgewittern", Ernst Jnnger's autobiographical book on combat in WW I and an often uncritically read favorite of the militaristic maroonish crowd) are tolerated here at all. But we disgress. My, what a cans of worms one inept pilot and his unwisely taken screenshots have opened... Edit: Oh, and I still want to know why the guy uses an overview setting that is worse than any nubtards. Being German, I should get to use the obvious cabbage pun, thank you. JP Beauregard ============================== Please stop treating me like you were an idiot.
Anti Derivative	Posted - 2006.04.07 18:54:00 - [60] Edited by: Anti Derivative on 07/04/2006 18:54:47 Originally by: mirel yirrin Originally by: HippoKing i posted this before, and it was removed because remedial's portrait was showing that of a man famous for his poor taste in moustaches and genocide. i blanked the portraits myself in order to allow the picture to be posted. Infamous. like el guapo http://www.freelanceninjas.com/gallery/d/1183-1/threeamigos.jpg Post links rather than images, please - Teblin

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