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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: HippoKing on 07/04/2006 16:14:31 Oh God No!
edit: more censorship
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:13:00 -
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I think that ship is the Serpentis mothership, a Nyx.
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Marcsen
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: Marcsen on 07/04/2006 16:13:08 heh, posted on the other thread already and just noticed the **** is loosing a carrier to a stupid mission with a dread next to him :))
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Sovy Kurosei I think that ship is the Serpentis mothership, a Nyx.
Gallante. And no its not. Seems to be a Caldari one. ---------------------------------
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:14:00 -
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What exactly are you tryin to point out here ?
That it was a particuler nasty dictator from the mid 20th century replacing the char portraits or that the ship was about to die? ---------------------------------
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: mirel yirrin What exactly are you tryin to point out here ?
That it was a particuler nasty dictator from the mid 20th century replacing the char portraits or that the ship was about to die?
that it appears someone (remedial) lost a carrier to a lvl3 mission
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: mirel yirrin What exactly are you tryin to point out here ?
That it was a particuler nasty dictator from the mid 20th century replacing the char portraits or that the ship was about to die?
that it appears someone (remedial) lost a carrier to a lvl3 mission
well, no, not really. If you look, the carrier is about to warp, literally half a second away from entering warp.
Probly didn't lose it. ---------------------------------
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: mirel yirrin What exactly are you tryin to point out here ?
That it was a particuler nasty dictator from the mid 20th century replacing the char portraits or that the ship was about to die?
that it appears someone (remedial) lost a carrier to a lvl3 mission
Since when did level three missions have that many battleships?
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sovy Kurosei Since when did level three missions have that many battleships?
since "Sabotaged!" was introduced, exodus at least.
no, you aren't meant to kill them
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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Bazman
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:18:00 -
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LOL
is all i can say -----
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D'onryu Shoqui
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: D''onryu Shoqui on 07/04/2006 16:20:31 looks like the level 3 mission that has the massive amarr fleet of like 20BS + loads of other smaller ships that you arent suposed to kill 
if its the mission im thinking of you are suposed to enter the gate of the last stage and kill a little frig then the mission is over and theres an amarr fleet sat 300km away.
heres a pic of the fleet your not suposed to kill http://snoop1050.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/amarrfleet.jpg
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Sovy Kurosei Since when did level three missions have that many battleships?
since "Sabotaged!" was introduced, exodus at least.
no, you aren't meant to kill them
Is that the mission where you only have to kill the lil' friggie at the warp in point, and not the armarda 160km away? ---------------------------------
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Pesadel0
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing Edited by: HippoKing on 07/04/2006 16:14:31 Oh God No!
edit: more censorship
 .That is so funny lol
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The TX
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:20:00 -
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ooooo, HK got a thread locked.... I don't remember Dark Shikari getting one locked.... :-P
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:20:00 -
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Edited by: HippoKing on 07/04/2006 16:21:23
Originally by: mirel yirrin Is that the mission where you only have to kill the lil' friggie at the warp in point, and not the armarda 160km away?
no, its the one with the friendly 3 battleship + support spawn at the beginning, with the warning reading: Do not attack the friendly convoy in the first encounter unless you are prepared for a confrontation with multiple battleships.
edit: caldari one is 3 BSs. this one looks like more
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Sovy Kurosei Since when did level three missions have that many battleships?
since "Sabotaged!" was introduced, exodus at least.
no, you aren't meant to kill them
Yeah, that is right now that I remember.
Always thought it funny that the Amarr armada loses their precious artifact and they send some guy in a punisher to hunt down the bad NPCs that done it.
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui Edited by: D''onryu Shoqui on 07/04/2006 16:20:04 looks like the level 3 mission that has the massive amarr fleet of like 20BS + loads of other smaller ships that you arent suposed to kill 
if its the mission im thinking of you are suposed to enter the gate of the last stage and kill a little frig then the mission is over and theres an amarr fleet sat 300km away.
heres a pic of the fleet your not suposed to kill http://snoop1050.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/amarrfleet.jpghttp://snoop1050.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/amarrfleet.jpg
Made you a linki
http://snoop1050.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/amarrfleet.jpghttp://snoop1050.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/amarrfleet.jpghttp://snoop1050.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/amarrfleet.jpg |

Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:22:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 07/04/2006 16:23:19
It LOOKs like the Amarr Navy fleet that show up in soem missions like level 2 Human Cattle and Level 3 Portal to War. My corp have beaten it. With a HAC, a BS and a cruiser.... Could be something different, though.
Is that a player in a dread in the background, too? Poor goonfleet, they all mined for that carrier.
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Stahlregen
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:22:00 -
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There was a bug and he lost the carrier but CCP has since replaced it so its all cool.
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:24:00 -
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 ôThe harder the battle, the sweeter the victory.ö
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:26:00 -
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Yes, its is relatively common knowledege that most people in goonfleet have modded clients with icons for other SA members - in corp or not.
And yes, Remedial is an idiot.
Does that answer your question?
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:27:00 -
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Ha.
Ahahaha.
And it isn't a bug... So surprised if it did actually get replaced... -------- Shinra Director
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 07/04/2006 16:34:28
From the edge of the screen and what I can see, I count at least 8 BS, 7 frigs, 3 cruisers. I'd imagine it's the standard 10-10-10 fleet that we've beaten before.
The pic someone linked to earlier shows a lot more frigs than I've seen in the level 3 amarr fleets that you're not supposed to fight. Is that a level 4, by any chance? Oh, and it's a bug if they all aggro you at once, which I'm guessing is what happend since he's using drones and drones are notorious for doing that. He still shouldn't get it replaced for that, but I'm not a GM so I don't really know about that ^^;.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur From the edge of the screen and what I can see, I count at least 8 BS, 7 frigs, 3 cruisers. I'd imagine it's the standard 10-10-10 fleet that we've beaten before.
fair enough. i'll defer to you on this one
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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Stahlregen
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Nyphur From the edge of the screen and what I can see, I count at least 8 BS, 7 frigs, 3 cruisers. I'd imagine it's the standard 10-10-10 fleet that we've beaten before.
fair enough. i'll defer to you on this one
Originally by: Stahlregen Edited by: Stahlregen on 07/04/2006 16:29:17 There was a bug and he lost the carrier but CCP has since replaced it so its all cool.
Also, Your all wrong, It was a cosmos mission he was doing for a friend who let the timer run out and had something insane like 20 Navy Jakars warp in and another 50 or so cruisers. We later finished the mission.
Am i that hard to miss?
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Celes'Tis
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver Ha.
Ahahaha.
And it isn't a bug... So surprised if it did actually get replaced...
The warp bug where a ship is unable to enter warp despite being aligned and at full speed, and then being unable to cancel warp is however a bug.. from the looks of the screenshot that's what happened and I'd imagine that's why it was replaced.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Stahlregen Am i that hard to miss?
when i read the post, the mission info wasn't there
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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Selak Zorander
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: mirel yirrin
Originally by: Sovy Kurosei I think that ship is the Serpentis mothership, a Nyx.
Gallante. And no its not. Seems to be a Caldari one.
actually it is the Gallante Thanatos. it is just rocked up on its side in that shot (or the camera view is from below.)
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Selak Zorander
Originally by: mirel yirrin
Originally by: Sovy Kurosei I think that ship is the Serpentis mothership, a Nyx.
Gallante. And no its not. Seems to be a Caldari one.
actually it is the Gallante Thanatos. it is just rocked up on its side in that shot (or the camera view is from below.)
Right, my eyes must be going bad. I thought that dreadnaught in the background was a megathron. 
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:53:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 07/04/2006 16:54:05
Originally by: Stahlregen
Originally by: Stahlregen Also, Your all wrong, It was a cosmos mission he was doing for a friend who let the timer run out and had something insane like 20 Navy Jakars warp in and another 50 or so cruisers. We later finished the mission.
Am i that hard to miss?
Well you DID just edit that in. 20 Jakars, eh? *thinks* I could handle that. Maybe not if they all warped in on us, though. We'd probably have to warp and come back.
So what was the bug?
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BobZumda
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Sovy Kurosei
Originally by: Selak Zorander
Originally by: mirel yirrin
Originally by: Sovy Kurosei I think that ship is the Serpentis mothership, a Nyx.
Gallante. And no its not. Seems to be a Caldari one.
actually it is the Gallante Thanatos. it is just rocked up on its side in that shot (or the camera view is from below.)
Right, my eyes must be going bad. I thought that dreadnaught in the background was a megathron. 
I think what you mean to say is that you confused that Brutix with a Dread naught with a Megathron.
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Stahlregen
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Posted - 2006.04.07 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 07/04/2006 16:54:05
Originally by: Stahlregen
Originally by: Stahlregen Also, Your all wrong, It was a cosmos mission he was doing for a friend who let the timer run out and had something insane like 20 Navy Jakars warp in and another 50 or so cruisers. We later finished the mission.
Am i that hard to miss?
Well you DID just edit that in. 20 Jakars, eh? *thinks* I could handle that. Maybe not if they all warped in on us, though. We'd probably have to warp and come back.
So what was the bug?
It was the warp bug already stated above by someone.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.07 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur So what was the bug?
he hit undock with a good setup, and ended up with 3 reppers 
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.04.07 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 07/04/2006 17:03:03
Originally by: Stahlregen It was the warp bug already stated above by someone.
Ah, right. That's one the GMs can confirm, I guess. Glad to see everything worked out.
If you have it handy, is there any proof that there's a level 3 cosmos mission in existance in which 20 navy Jakars and over 50 cruisers will warp in? Ever? The BS I can believe but I've never heard of missions, even cosmos ones, spawning 50 of something. Over 70 ships is more than most levels of a 10/10 will throw at you.
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Nyphur So what was the bug?
he hit undock with a good setup, and ended up with 3 reppers 
Ooh, burned ^^;
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Sadayiel
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Posted - 2006.04.07 17:03:00 -
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there is only 4 ships u can recognize in that pic.
1st is a Thanatos from Below Yes they seems to fly backwards. 2nd 2 apoc Smacking the Carrier just up and down 3rd The last ship in the pic also in gang with the guy is a frigging Brutix!!! Dreadnoughts neither have wings at the rear side or such shapped front side.
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.04.07 17:09:00 -
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The heck, I thought it was a Moros. 
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.04.07 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Sovy Kurosei The heck, I thought it was a Moros. 
Same. The designs are quite similar from a distance.
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JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2006.04.07 17:20:00 -
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Is anyone else looking at the overview in sheer disbelief? Where do you start?
Btw, since when are there Cosmos missions in Covryn? I'll assume the gentleman with the reprehensible name meant RMR mission (as in new, omg, we're clueless, ruuuuun) and wasn't looking to give the impression that any pilot would have been overpowered like this by design...
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.04.07 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: JP Beauregard Is anyone else looking at the overview in sheer disbelief? Where do you start?
Btw, since when are there Cosmos missions in Covryn? I'll assume the gentleman with the reprehensible name meant RMR mission (as in new, omg, we're clueless, ruuuuun) and wasn't looking to give the impression that any pilot would have been overpowered like this by design...
Hah! I didn't even pick up on the system name. The only thing in Covryn is a Serpentis Phi Outpost, which is clearly 6.2AU away. In the text, they talk about level 3 missions and a control tower. In Portal to War level 3, there final area has two cathedrals and a control tower. I made the mistake of thinking I had to blow up the control tower, but it was the cathedral we had to blow up. If you don't do it in time, a fleet of 10 BS, 10 cruisers and 10 frigs warp in. The screenshot shows roughly that fleet minus a few ships.
I call bull****.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.04.07 17:37:00 -
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Edited by: Ithildin on 07/04/2006 17:38:36 Let's see.
* As has been pointed out, that's a Thanatos, nothing else. * That is Placid, meaning the mission rats are probably from a level 3 mission where there's a timer before the rats in the mission get "reinforcements". Notice how this timer was increased in a recent patch. * The pilot who took this screenshot revealed himself to be using a portrait exploit. The modification of what portraits shown is not permitted by the EULA. (Otherwise this would have been a simple way of spotting enemies in Jita local, just scroll down and look at portraits) * The blacked-out images with a light blue background are, in the original screenshot, actually portraits of (forum sensor) the third reich's leader. * I have no idea if it was photoshopped or not.
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2006.04.07 17:43:00 -
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On a completely different note how did they get that shield hitpoints 0.0/26.400 number to show? I never get that on my ships. What option am I missing? _________________________________________________ Nominate famous people in Eve who had an impact on you. |

HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.07 17:45:00 -
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@pottsey: rclick the little arrow that shows/hides modules. hit "show readout"
@ithildan: if you really want to be a sleuth, you should have noticed that i toned down one of the words in the chat 
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2006.04.07 17:47:00 -
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Great, I owe you one of that tip. You know one of these days I have to make a website full of all those hidden away options and tips. In fact I am going make a tread on it now. _________________________________________________ Nominate famous people in Eve who had an impact on you. |

Zyncast
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Posted - 2006.04.07 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ithildin
* The pilot who took this screenshot revealed himself to be using a portrait exploit. The modification of what portraits shown is not permitted by the EULA.
I have on good authority that it is not and in fact many corporations do this. |

ElCoCo
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Posted - 2006.04.07 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Zyncast
Originally by: Ithildin
* The pilot who took this screenshot revealed himself to be using a portrait exploit. The modification of what portraits shown is not permitted by the EULA.
I have on good authority that it is not and in fact many corporations do this.
BS.
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Aridia Parker
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Posted - 2006.04.07 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui Edited by: D''onryu Shoqui on 07/04/2006 16:20:31 looks like the level 3 mission that has the massive amarr fleet of like 20BS + loads of other smaller ships that you arent suposed to kill 
if its the mission im thinking of you are suposed to enter the gate of the last stage and kill a little frig then the mission is over and theres an amarr fleet sat 300km away.
heres a pic of the fleet your not suposed to kill http://snoop1050.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/amarrfleet.jpg
I think u are talking about "The human kettle" which is a level 2 mission.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.07 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Aridia Parker I think u are talking about "The human kettle" which is a level 2 mission.
is it just me, or does boiling water inside someone sound mean?
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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Alzaria Lassem
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Posted - 2006.04.07 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: ElCoCo
Originally by: Zyncast
Originally by: Ithildin
* The pilot who took this screenshot revealed himself to be using a portrait exploit. The modification of what portraits shown is not permitted by the EULA.
I have on good authority that it is not and in fact many corporations do this.
BS.
To do that you need to edit gamefiles (the small portraits pics) which is prohibited.
I do believe that a GM disagreed with you when they were asked.
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JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2006.04.07 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Zyncast
Originally by: Ithildin
* The pilot who took this screenshot revealed himself to be using a portrait exploit. The modification of what portraits shown is not permitted by the EULA.
I have on good authority that it is not and in fact many corporations do this.
Nonsense. This very topic came up in Help this afternoon and quickly drew GM Xhagen's attention. He actually confirmed that having the client execute your own Python scripts is not permitted:
Quote:
[ 2006.04.07 14:22:47 ] cletus snow > Does anyone have that thing that shows portraits in local with Alliance name and stuff [ 2006.04.07 14:22:54 ] Safron Zy > if your frigate skill is high enough some of the frigates have decent capacity [ 2006.04.07 14:23:05 ] JP Beauregard > Huh? [ 2006.04.07 14:23:13 ] cletus snow > kestrel has 300m3, which is good for mineral transporting [ 2006.04.07 14:23:25 ] Kharq > Probe get over 500 easily. [ 2006.04.07 14:23:27 ] cletus snow > some python file you paste into eve [ 2006.04.07 14:23:30 ] Kharq > *gets [ 2006.04.07 14:23:46 ] Crucigrl > I got around 430m3 capacity right now, and looking for more [ 2006.04.07 14:23:48 ] JP Beauregard > Oh, you mean like an illegal change to the code? [ 2006.04.07 14:23:57 ] JP Beauregard > /emote rings the seal bell. [ 2006.04.07 14:24:09 ] cletus snow > Supposedly its not "illegal" [ 2006.04.07 14:24:14 ] cletus snow > this particular thingy [ 2006.04.07 14:24:33 ] Rincey > exequror gallente [ 2006.04.07 14:24:33 ] Safron Zy > crucigrl: you could also try putting a medium container in there, that would give you a bit more space [ 2006.04.07 14:24:38 ] JP Beauregard > Says who? [ 2006.04.07 14:24:46 ] Crucigrl > I could do [ 2006.04.07 14:25:06 ] cletus snow > "Supposedly" a GM said it was ok [ 2006.04.07 14:25:14 ] cletus snow > thast why i am saking [ 2006.04.07 14:25:18 ] JP Beauregard > Uhuh. And you got that straight from your dealer? [ 2006.04.07 14:25:20 ] cletus snow > asking* [ 2006.04.07 14:25:29 ] cletus snow > im just asking [ 2006.04.07 14:25:34 ] cletus snow > i dont have it [ 2006.04.07 14:26:16 ] Crucigrl > What's the name of the medium cargoholders? [ 2006.04.07 14:26:20 ] JP Beauregard > Seriously, you actually believed adding code to be executed bby the client is permissible? My own memory of the intricacies of the EULA is faint but, no.... [ 2006.04.07 14:26:36 ] cletus snow > Thats what i assumed [ 2006.04.07 14:27:24 ] cletus snow > But CCP are hypocrits [ 2006.04.07 14:27:29 ] Kharq > Crucigrl, cargo expanders? They only come in one size, offer a percentage expansion. [ 2006.04.07 14:27:39 ] GM Xhagen > cletus snow: explain please :) [ 2006.04.07 14:27:53 ] Barbarosa > rut ro [ 2006.04.07 14:27:54 ] Prospero 1 > Red Type = GM [ 2006.04.07 14:27:55 ] GM Xhagen > and the answer to your question is, no, it is not allowed to change the client in this way
Yeah, I know. I too was shocked. Not.
JP Beauregard
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.04.07 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Aridia Parker
Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui Edited by: D''onryu Shoqui on 07/04/2006 16:20:31 looks like the level 3 mission that has the massive amarr fleet of like 20BS + loads of other smaller ships that you arent suposed to kill 
if its the mission im thinking of you are suposed to enter the gate of the last stage and kill a little frig then the mission is over and theres an amarr fleet sat 300km away.
heres a pic of the fleet your not suposed to kill http://snoop1050.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/amarrfleet.jpg
I think u are talking about "The human kettle" which is a level 2 mission.
"Human Cattle", and the fleet is the same as on "Portal To War" level 3, which I aqm pretty damn sure is what they're doing.
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Teblin
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Posted - 2006.04.07 18:04:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Zyncast
Originally by: Ithildin
* The pilot who took this screenshot revealed himself to be using a portrait exploit. The modification of what portraits shown is not permitted by the EULA.
I have on good authority that it is not and in fact many corporations do this.
Just thought I'd chime in here and settle this. Modifying the game files, client or client operation in any way is a violation of the EULA. Yes, that includes portraits. It can be met with anything up to and including permanant game bans.
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Anna Dia
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Posted - 2006.04.07 18:04:00 -
[52]
Originally by: JP Beauregard
Originally by: Zyncast
Originally by: Ithildin
* The pilot who took this screenshot revealed himself to be using a portrait exploit. The modification of what portraits shown is not permitted by the EULA.
I have on good authority that it is not and in fact many corporations do this.
Nonsense. This very topic came up in Help this afternoon and quickly drew GM Xhagen's attention. He actually confirmed that having the client execute your own Python scripts is not permitted:
Quote:
[ 2006.04.07 14:22:47 ] cletus snow > Does anyone have that thing that shows portraits in local with Alliance name and stuff [ 2006.04.07 14:22:54 ] Safron Zy > if your frigate skill is high enough some of the frigates have decent capacity [ 2006.04.07 14:23:05 ] JP Beauregard > Huh? [ 2006.04.07 14:23:13 ] cletus snow > kestrel has 300m3, which is good for mineral transporting [ 2006.04.07 14:23:25 ] Kharq > Probe get over 500 easily. [ 2006.04.07 14:23:27 ] cletus snow > some python file you paste into eve [ 2006.04.07 14:23:30 ] Kharq > *gets [ 2006.04.07 14:23:46 ] Crucigrl > I got around 430m3 capacity right now, and looking for more [ 2006.04.07 14:23:48 ] JP Beauregard > Oh, you mean like an illegal change to the code? [ 2006.04.07 14:23:57 ] JP Beauregard > /emote rings the seal bell. [ 2006.04.07 14:24:09 ] cletus snow > Supposedly its not "illegal" [ 2006.04.07 14:24:14 ] cletus snow > this particular thingy [ 2006.04.07 14:24:33 ] Rincey > exequror gallente [ 2006.04.07 14:24:33 ] Safron Zy > crucigrl: you could also try putting a medium container in there, that would give you a bit more space [ 2006.04.07 14:24:38 ] JP Beauregard > Says who? [ 2006.04.07 14:24:46 ] Crucigrl > I could do [ 2006.04.07 14:25:06 ] cletus snow > "Supposedly" a GM said it was ok [ 2006.04.07 14:25:14 ] cletus snow > thast why i am saking [ 2006.04.07 14:25:18 ] JP Beauregard > Uhuh. And you got that straight from your dealer? [ 2006.04.07 14:25:20 ] cletus snow > asking* [ 2006.04.07 14:25:29 ] cletus snow > im just asking [ 2006.04.07 14:25:34 ] cletus snow > i dont have it [ 2006.04.07 14:26:16 ] Crucigrl > What's the name of the medium cargoholders? [ 2006.04.07 14:26:20 ] JP Beauregard > Seriously, you actually believed adding code to be executed bby the client is permissible? My own memory of the intricacies of the EULA is faint but, no.... [ 2006.04.07 14:26:36 ] cletus snow > Thats what i assumed [ 2006.04.07 14:27:24 ] cletus snow > But CCP are hypocrits [ 2006.04.07 14:27:29 ] Kharq > Crucigrl, cargo expanders? They only come in one size, offer a percentage expansion. [ 2006.04.07 14:27:39 ] GM Xhagen > cletus snow: explain please :) [ 2006.04.07 14:27:53 ] Barbarosa > rut ro [ 2006.04.07 14:27:54 ] Prospero 1 > Red Type = GM [ 2006.04.07 14:27:55 ] GM Xhagen > and the answer to your question is, no, it is not allowed to change the client in this way
Yeah, I know. I too was shocked. Not.
It's not a script at all, nor does it take any data from the game itself or anything like that, it's a simple edit of the cache, and was OKed.
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Zyncast
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Posted - 2006.04.07 18:04:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Zyncast on 07/04/2006 18:04:39
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.07 18:05:00 -
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"* The pilot who took this screenshot revealed himself to be using a portrait exploit. The modification of what portraits shown is not permitted by the EULA. (Otherwise this would have been a simple way of spotting enemies in Jita local, just scroll down and look at portraits)"
Uhmm would there be a point to such modification, really? Since portraits appear to have limited 'time to live' and expire after few days or so, at which point they're back to the "!" mark, especially if one switches between characters. So it seems like one would need to edit lot of files often for that? o.O;
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Calenth
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Posted - 2006.04.07 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Calenth on 07/04/2006 18:21:32
Originally by: Teblin
Just thought I'd chime in here and settle this. Modifying the game files, client or client operation in any way is a violation of the EULA. Yes, that includes portraits. It can be met with anything up to and including permanant game bans.
Ok, we have a conflicting report then from in-game GM's.
Quote:
*snip*
The guy who got that GM response was someone we later had to kick from the corp for other reasons, so I guess it's theoretically possible he fabricated it to trick us, but that would be a bit of a stretch.
Removed private communication with GMs as per the forum rules - Teblin
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2006.04.07 18:26:00 -
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Surely swoosh must remember the 2year old uproar that occured when some ppl "edited" the game textures to decrease lag and stuff. heh 
It's obvious it should not be permitted. A 3yr old could realize that and if you disagree I dunno... are you kidding yourself?  |

ElCoCo
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Posted - 2006.04.07 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine edit: btw, the topic says "Please say this was photoshopped before I blanked the portraits" so it really doesn't sound like it's any sort of exploit going? ^^;;
If there was an exploit going, the remedial portraits would be identical which they're not... which lead us to another Q... why would you blank them in that screenshot... are they that ugly?  |

HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.07 18:37:00 -
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i posted this before, and it was removed because remedial's portrait was showing that of a man famous for his poor taste in moustaches and genocide.
i *blanked* the portraits myself in order to allow the picture to be posted.
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2006.04.07 18:46:00 -
[59]
Edited by: JP Beauregard on 07/04/2006 18:48:23
Originally by: HippoKing i posted this before, and it was removed because remedial's portrait was showing that of a man famous for his poor taste in moustaches and genocide.
i *blanked* the portraits myself in order to allow the picture to be posted.
Which begs the question why he (and his defender Stahlregen, obviously a reference to "In Stahlgewittern", Ernst Jnnger's autobiographical book on combat in WW I and an often uncritically read favorite of the militaristic maroonish crowd*) are tolerated here at all.
But we disgress. My, what a cans of worms one inept pilot and his unwisely taken screenshots have opened...
Edit: Oh, and I still want to know why the guy uses an overview setting that is worse than any nubtards.
* Being German, I should get to use the obvious cabbage pun, thank you.
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Anti Derivative
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Posted - 2006.04.07 18:54:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Anti Derivative on 07/04/2006 18:54:47
Originally by: mirel yirrin
Originally by: HippoKing i posted this before, and it was removed because remedial's portrait was showing that of a man famous for his poor taste in moustaches and genocide.
i *blanked* the portraits myself in order to allow the picture to be posted.
Infamous.

like el guapo http://www.freelanceninjas.com/gallery/d/1183-1/threeamigos.jpg
Post links rather than images, please - Teblin
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Anti Derivative
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Posted - 2006.04.07 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Anti Derivative on 07/04/2006 18:59:25 http://www.punaday.com/images/moreimages/sausagelinks001.JPG
mmmm
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Celes'Tis
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Posted - 2006.04.07 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: JP Beauregard
Which begs the question why he (and his defender Stahlregen, obviously a reference to "In Stahlgewittern", Ernst Jnnger's autobiographical book on combat in WW I and an often uncritically read favorite of the militaristic maroonish crowd*) are tolerated here at all.
The only question that needs begging is why you feel the need to drone on and on and on in such a condescending manner and why you seem to be intent on having people banned from the game.
Also "nubtard" is offensive to me as it is an obvious reference to the word "retard", the Dictionary's premier insult filed under R and often uncritically read favorite of the intellectual bore crowd...
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JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2006.04.07 19:34:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Celes'Tis
Originally by: JP Beauregard
Which begs the question why he (and his defender Stahlregen, obviously a reference to "In Stahlgewittern", Ernst Jnnger's autobiographical book on combat in WW I and an often uncritically read favorite of the militaristic maroonish crowd*) are tolerated here at all.
The only question that needs begging is why you feel the need to drone on and on and on in such a condescending manner and why you seem to be intent on having people banned from the game.
Also "nubtard" is offensive to me as it is an obvious reference to the word "retard", the Dictionary's premier insult filed under R and often uncritically read favorite of the intellectual bore crowd...
One day, I'll teach you about valueing substance over style. But not today, since you obviously lack an understanding of either.
You'll get to edit me when your application for forum moderator has been approved. Until then, you're only trolling, i.e. purposefully distorting other people's posts with the intent of creating a spurious argument for your own gratification.
Eat your own bait.
JP Beauregard
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fmercury
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Posted - 2006.04.07 19:48:00 -
[64]
Originally by: JP Beauregard
Originally by: Zyncast
Originally by: Ithildin
* The pilot who took this screenshot revealed himself to be using a portrait exploit. The modification of what portraits shown is not permitted by the EULA.
I have on good authority that it is not and in fact many corporations do this.
Nonsense. This very topic came up in Help this afternoon and quickly drew GM Xhagen's attention. He actually confirmed that having the client execute your own Python scripts is not permitted:
Quote:
[ 2006.04.07 14:27:55 ] GM Xhagen > and the answer to your question is, no, it is not allowed to change the client in this way
Yeah, I know. I too was shocked. Not.
Good thing it doesn't change the client in any way then, huh?
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Ficus O'Plant
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Posted - 2006.04.07 19:56:00 -
[65]
Damn so you mean when i clear my cache it alters the portraits by removing them i better be banned for this. |

Jin Entres
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Posted - 2006.04.07 20:05:00 -
[66]
Man, who would've thought one picture would incite this much discussion?
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.04.07 20:46:00 -
[67]
Originally by: fmercury Good thing it doesn't change the client in any way then, huh?
How bloody unambiguous must the message be for it to get through? You're modifying the client's operation. It's the same way people used to change models and textures so that they could run at higher FPS and outblob their enemy without lag. Or the time people changed the cloaking sounds so they could hear people cloak at the other side of the grid easilly. It's something you do that changes how things look or work in the client and it's not bloody allowed any more than a maphack is on other games.
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Celes'Tis
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Posted - 2006.04.07 20:51:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: fmercury Good thing it doesn't change the client in any way then, huh?
How bloody unambiguous must the message be for it to get through? You're modifying the client's operation. It's the same way people used to change models and textures so that they could run at higher FPS and outblob their enemy without lag. Or the time people changed the cloaking sounds so they could hear people cloak at the other side of the grid easilly. It's something you do that changes how things look or work in the client and it's not bloody allowed any more than a maphack is on other games.
Just out of interest were you able to read the GM response Calenth posted before it was removed?
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.07 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Entres Man, who would've thought one picture would incite this much discussion?
*snip*
I personally have doubts as to the "warp bug" story. That ship aligns like a turd, I think the owner got lucky getting it reimbursed, ofc the point is moot.
What is beyond doubt is there are some setups out there that take "creative" to new lows
Removed EULA violation - Teblin
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.04.07 20:56:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Celes'Tis Just out of interest were you able to read the GM response Calenth posted before it was removed?
No but I've seen this happen a lot. From what I remember, you're not allowed to post them because people could just fake them and there's no other witnesses to corroborate them like there are with the help channel or something. Since it's private communication, people can just make it up and nobody can call it into question.
At least I'm pretty sure that's why it's not allowed. The rules just say it isn't *shrug*.
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neccette
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:12:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Jin Entres Man, who would've thought one picture would incite this much discussion?
*snip*
I personally have doubts as to the "warp bug" story. That ship aligns like a turd, I think the owner got lucky getting it reimbursed, ofc the point is moot.
What is beyond doubt is there are some setups out there that take "creative" to new lows
Removed EULA violation - Teblin
So, you don't see that the ship is at full speed with "warping" in the speed bar? he was trying to get out of there.
Though it's just my word, I was hanging out on Teamspeak when Rem said he needed to get out of there and was bugged from warping (this is before he started his tank and started using his cap). So I got a gang invite, undocked in cyno ship and popped a field up and listened while he died because he could not get out of warp to jump to my cyno.
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Stahlregen
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Posted - 2006.04.07 23:58:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Stahlregen on 08/04/2006 00:01:21
Originally by: JP Beauregard Edited by: JP Beauregard on 07/04/2006 18:48:23
Originally by: HippoKing i posted this before, and it was removed because remedial's portrait was showing that of a man famous for his poor taste in moustaches and genocide.
i *blanked* the portraits myself in order to allow the picture to be posted.
Which begs the question why he (and his defender Stahlregen, obviously a reference to "In Stahlgewittern", Ernst Jnnger's autobiographical book on combat in WW I and an often uncritically read favorite of the militaristic maroonish crowd*) are tolerated here at all.
But we disgress. My, what a cans of worms one inept pilot and his unwisely taken screenshots have opened...
Edit: Oh, and I still want to know why the guy uses an overview setting that is worse than any nubtards.
* Being German, I should get to use the obvious cabbage pun, thank you.
I hardly think i was defending him, Infact i think ive been very forthcomming with giving away infomation on what exactly happened.
And as for implying that i am a national socialist based upon some vauge reference to some book whos name's prefix matches my own. W-hat. Stahlregen is my surname.
Also, we asked rem why he did have such a horrible overview and he explained he was messing with it thinking that he was lagged out by it.
One last thing: Quatin' Dis:
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Damn so you mean when i clear my cache it alters the portraits by removing them i better be banned for this.
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Sadayiel
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:13:00 -
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i never used a carrier or any other capital ship that requires a cyno to warp out but i would like to point several things for major knowdledge.
1st It's a thanatos Aka carrier si it's not inmune to EW mods, and it seems to be running a tank in lows not WCS
2nd check the ships type he got in target, at least 1 of those types may be able to warpscram the target with ease.
3rd even if cynofield open maybe the ships warping bar on capital show at full while they prepare to the jump in.
found curious that malevel get SOOO surprised about that, specially if as neccette stated she get the distress call even before the carrier get to armor.
Just pointing weird coincidences, TBH all i can wonder it's just theory.
P.S: teach Covryn to learn how to use a Nos into enemy ships.... -------------------Sig----------------------- S.S.E. currently recruiting new players. Convo me or leave an eve-mail.
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Cmdr Sy
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:34:00 -
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It's almost certainly L3 Portal to War 2/5 second tier.
Objective is destruction of an Amarr Control Tower, as referred to in the convo visible in the screenshot, and retrieval of a Data Chip. The ships shown are consistent with the reinforcements which spawn after an hour and a half have elapsed since entry into 2/5 first tier. I believe there are 3 waves in the respawn, and the victims either:
1) Took too long clearing out the Caldari Navy in the first tier, 2) Tried to chain the Amarr Navy reinforcements, 3) Found themselves with a spawn ahead of schedule as a result of a game bug
For comparison, 5 guys vs L4 Enemies Abound 5/5, all waves already present, not chained: 175MB
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2006.04.08 01:05:00 -
[75]
Just a couple of questions...
1. Assuming your using fighters why do you only have frigs locked when BS are present?
2. Why does a cap ship have a autopilot set? ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |

Stahlregen
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Posted - 2006.04.08 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: nahtoh Just a couple of questions...
1. Assuming your using fighters why do you only have frigs locked when BS are present?
2. Why does a cap ship have a autopilot set?
I havent even asked him this but from just reading the thread you could assume
1. He was trying to kill frigates incase they were warp scrambling him
2. He was trying to use autopilot to warp him out and get around the bug
How could you not figure this out yourself?
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Kurtz
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Posted - 2006.04.08 02:14:00 -
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JP, your in fine form today. The ôStahlgewitternö reference was a bit of a stretch though. Not every use of that historical figureÆs likeness is indicative of wanting to see a come back tour. Sometimes it is used playfully for representing a forceful leader.
I am kind of hoping Kilrock drops by this thread.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.04.08 02:16:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Nyphur on 08/04/2006 02:16:31
Originally by: Stahlregen 20 Navy Jakars warp in and another 50 or so cruisers.
Care to comment on that, Stahlregen? Since you're posting.
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2006.04.08 02:29:00 -
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Edited by: Jaabaa Prime on 08/04/2006 02:30:48 As Wrangler already stated in another locked thread "We haven't set up a lot of different forums just so you can link a thread in one of them to a thread in another one." So post this in the Missions forum.
YAWN .....
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Stahlregen
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Posted - 2006.04.08 02:34:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 08/04/2006 02:16:31
Originally by: Stahlregen 20 Navy Jakars warp in and another 50 or so cruisers.
Care to comment on that, Stahlregen? Since you're posting.
When we ran the mission we had to do much warping out upon being targetted as they were one shotting our frigates. Im sure someone who has done it before could give you a more accurate number you probably shouldnt take my estimate (exaggeration) literaly. All i can say for certain is that there were ****loads.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.04.08 02:39:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Stahlregen
Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 08/04/2006 02:16:31
Originally by: Stahlregen 20 Navy Jakars warp in and another 50 or so cruisers.
Care to comment on that, Stahlregen? Since you're posting.
When we ran the mission we had to do much warping out upon being targetted as they were one shotting our frigates. Im sure someone who has done it before could give you a more accurate number you probably shouldnt take my estimate (exaggeration) literaly. All i can say for certain is that there were ****loads.
I've done it before. 10 BS, 10 cruisers, 10 frigs. Bit of a stretch from 20bs and 50 or so cruisers...
And it's a normal mission, not a cosmos one.
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Stahlregen
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Posted - 2006.04.08 02:42:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Stahlregen
Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 08/04/2006 02:16:31
Originally by: Stahlregen 20 Navy Jakars warp in and another 50 or so cruisers.
Care to comment on that, Stahlregen? Since you're posting.
When we ran the mission we had to do much warping out upon being targetted as they were one shotting our frigates. Im sure someone who has done it before could give you a more accurate number you probably shouldnt take my estimate (exaggeration) literaly. All i can say for certain is that there were ****loads.
I've done it before. 10 BS, 10 cruisers, 10 frigs. Bit of a stretch from 20bs and 50 or so cruisers...
And it's a normal mission, not a cosmos one.
No, You are wrong, It is a cosmos mission. So obviously you havent done it before.
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Makhan
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Posted - 2006.04.08 02:47:00 -
[83]
Flame wars [X] Gross pictures []
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.04.08 02:50:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Nyphur on 08/04/2006 02:51:30
Originally by: Stahlregen No, You are wrong, It is a cosmos mission. So obviously you havent done it before.
COSMOS consists of four separate constellations, one for each race. You won't find cosmos stuff outside of these except for a few agents in space that I'm told are hidden around 0.0. Covryn is not in a COSMOS constellation. If it has anything COSMOS related, it'd be a hidden complex since all COSMOS missions are static, but the only place you'll find the complexes are inside the constellation itself. If you're not satisfied with that, I can go scan for hidden complexes in the system just to disprove the notion that it's there. To reiterate, COSMOS missions don't spawn complexes and give you bookmarks like normal missions. They are static and use static complexes, hidden or otherwise.
Not to mention that the image shows a little under 10 BS and 10 frigs with a few cruisers, which would be consistent with the 10-10-10 fleet in level 3 Portal to War, a normal deadspace mission in which the target is a control tower (or there's a control tower there and the target is one of the cathedrals next to it, I think). Which fits conveniently in with the chat text and mission level as well as the fleet spawn depicted in the screenshot.
Want to recheck the info you have or will I break out the scan probes and show that Covryn is empty?
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2006.04.08 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: Stahlregen
Originally by: nahtoh Just a couple of questions...
1. Assuming your using fighters why do you only have frigs locked when BS are present?
2. Why does a cap ship have a autopilot set?
I havent even asked him this but from just reading the thread you could assume
1. He was trying to kill frigates incase they were warp scrambling him
2. He was trying to use autopilot to warp him out and get around the bug
How could you not figure this out yourself?
Well as his warp bar is almost full the scram thing is crap...
and it would have been a lot better to pre-align to planet/station whatever...
with the brutix there in the background of the screenshot its a pretty crap targeting piroity I would say...
I trying not to assume anything... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |

Cmdr Sy
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Posted - 2006.04.08 03:31:00 -
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Covryn does however contain Havrylallin Eurt, a III+10 Internal Security agent for Duvolle Laboratories at Covryn VI - M12, whom the non-blanked-out pilot in the convo uses. He is also the one talking about mission objectives. The others do not have the right standings.
I have also never had Portal to War spawn outside the agent's home system.
Thus, well, not only is the spawn a give-away, but here is the name of the agent who spawned it. And those frigs scramble. So I don't see how there could have been a 'warp bug'.
My guess is, the 2.5 month old NPCer got owned by the Caldari Navy in the first tier of the 2/5, the timer expired and the Amarr Navy spawned in the second tier before the tower could be destroyed and the data chip retrieved, and the unfortunate Goonfleet people decided to lend a hand.
Sometimes a picture truly speaks a thousand words, when each clue can be looked up in a database.
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Makhan
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Posted - 2006.04.08 03:36:00 -
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Edited by: Makhan on 08/04/2006 03:37:33
Originally by: nahtoh
Originally by: Stahlregen
Originally by: nahtoh Just a couple of questions...
1. Assuming your using fighters why do you only have frigs locked when BS are present?
2. Why does a cap ship have a autopilot set?
I havent even asked him this but from just reading the thread you could assume
1. He was trying to kill frigates incase they were warp scrambling him
2. He was trying to use autopilot to warp him out and get around the bug
How could you not figure this out yourself?
Well as his warp bar is almost full the scram thing is crap...
and it would have been a lot better to pre-align to planet/station whatever...
with the brutix there in the background of the screenshot its a pretty crap targeting piroity I would say...
I trying not to assume anything...
Clearly you know nothing than about missions, or reading threads for that matter.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.04.08 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Cmdr Sy And those frigs scramble. So I don't see how there could have been a 'warp bug'. Sometimes a picture truly speaks a thousand words, when each clue can be looked up in a database.
Well the frigs DO scramble but it wasn't showing as such on his computer. Eitehr it was a display bug, which you don't get reimbured for, or the infamous warp bug, where your ship never aligns to warp. Given the fact it's a capital ship, I'd believe that it's not a warp bug but it's just slow getting to warp. Those things take ages to align and missiles can knock it off. But if a GM reinbursed them, that means they confirmed a bug server-side, I guess.
Also, the setup on that ship was probably designed to fight the caldari navy and it's a bad setup to begin with so it's perfectly understandable that the Portal to War fleet could destroy the carrier. It's just sad to see people have to exaggerate the odds they lost against to justify it, especially considering the fact that goonfleet can pay for a carrier by collectively mining for a single day. It's no big loss.
(Good detective work. We need a TV show where we solve crimes).
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2006.04.08 04:23:00 -
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regardless of anything else :| omgwtf setup is that :| ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p)
the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2006.04.08 05:08:00 -
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Originally by: Makhan Edited by: Makhan on 08/04/2006 03:37:33
Originally by: nahtoh
Originally by: Stahlregen
Originally by: nahtoh Just a couple of questions...
1. Assuming your using fighters why do you only have frigs locked when BS are present?
2. Why does a cap ship have a autopilot set?
I havent even asked him this but from just reading the thread you could assume
1. He was trying to kill frigates incase they were warp scrambling him
2. He was trying to use autopilot to warp him out and get around the bug
How could you not figure this out yourself?
Well as his warp bar is almost full the scram thing is crap...
and it would have been a lot better to pre-align to planet/station whatever...
with the brutix there in the background of the screenshot its a pretty crap targeting piroity I would say...
I trying not to assume anything...
Clearly you know nothing than about missions, or reading threads for that matter.
Goonfleet alt?
Sorry dumbass but I used to run a lot of missions and I still help my corp mbrs out on theirs even though I no longer run em solo.
Now unless that brutix in teh back ground has has rails and no web it should be able to take those frigs down very fast, thats not counting its drones...
Its more likley that its crap co-ordination that killed that carrier more than anything else. keep the brtix in close to kill frigs fast use the fighters to take the BS then kill the cruisers as a mop up...
Or I don't know wait till DT when the respwan timer for the ammar fleet to reset?
theres 4 pilots in that gang I refuse to belive none of them were set for frig killing... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |

JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2006.04.08 09:00:00 -
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Edited by: JP Beauregard on 08/04/2006 09:02:56
Originally by: Kurtz JP, your in fine form today. The “Stahlgewittern” reference was a bit of a stretch though. Not every use of that historical figure’s likeness is indicative of wanting to see a come back tour. Sometimes it is used playfully for representing a forceful leader.
I am kind of hoping Kilrock drops by this thread.
Well, Hippo got me thinking and I admit I AM sensitive to the issue of a certain kind of people in certain kinds of MMOGs, especially having met them before. They, shall we say, cast a certain light on the rest of us with whom they share a passport and they're none too subtle about that.
Originally by: Stahlregen And as for implying that i am a national socialist based upon some vauge reference to some book whos name's prefix matches my own. W-hat. Stahlregen is my surname.
If I got this wrong with regard to "Stahlregen", I apologize.
A surname, you say? Neither the German nor the Austrian telephone directory lists even one entry. I'd like to believe your assertion, but one might see why that is difficult. And the connection between "Stahlgewitter" (thunderstorm of steel, for those who don't speak German) and "Stahlregen" (rain of steel) should be obvious enough to make your name a bad choice for a game nick anywhere otuside of hardcore CS in the company of like-minded individuals.
In any case, thanks for answering my question concerning one aspect to Remedial's piloting skills, and if I did cast you in a wrong light, I again apologize.
JP Beauregard
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Fortior
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Posted - 2006.04.08 10:57:00 -
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Sweet jesus! I expect a mod to come 'a clickin' any minute now. Meanwhile, I can start selling tickets to the "JP vs Stahl" Fight Night. Come see two forum goers duke it out on the internet! ONLY ONE CAN BE THE CHAMPION!
*click*
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Stahlregen
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Posted - 2006.04.08 11:06:00 -
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Edited by: Stahlregen on 08/04/2006 11:08:57
Originally by: JP Beauregard Edited by: JP Beauregard on 08/04/2006 09:02:56
Originally by: Kurtz JP, your in fine form today. The ôStahlgewitternö reference was a bit of a stretch though. Not every use of that historical figureÆs likeness is indicative of wanting to see a come back tour. Sometimes it is used playfully for representing a forceful leader.
I am kind of hoping Kilrock drops by this thread.
Well, Hippo got me thinking and I admit I AM sensitive to the issue of a certain kind of people in certain kinds of MMOGs, especially having met them before. They, shall we say, cast a certain light on the rest of us with whom they share a passport and they're none too subtle about that.
Originally by: Stahlregen And as for implying that i am a national socialist based upon some vauge reference to some book whos name's prefix matches my own. W-hat. Stahlregen is my surname.
If I got this wrong with regard to "Stahlregen", I apologize.
A surname, you say? Neither the German nor the Austrian telephone directory lists even one entry. I'd like to believe your assertion, but one might see why that is difficult. And the connection between "Stahlgewitter" (thunderstorm of steel, for those who don't speak German) and "Stahlregen" (rain of steel) should be obvious enough to make your name a bad choice for a game nick anywhere otuside of hardcore CS in the company of like-minded individuals.
In any case, thanks for answering my question concerning one aspect to Remedial's piloting skills, and if I did cast you in a wrong light, I again apologize.
Well to be honest and precise, My surname is Stahlschmidt. Adding regen onto the end just sounds 100x more badass. I didnt really want to be talking about my surname on the internet for a couple hundred thousand people, you know? But it seems like you want me to elaborate and im fine with that if your that interested.
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2006.04.08 11:20:00 -
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Deserved to lose it with a setup like that  Signature Removed, please mail us [email protected] for more information -Armetheus |

Alyth
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Posted - 2006.04.08 11:43:00 -
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Ouch on the setup there man...
With regards to the portrait thing...EvE is not WoW, therefore no UI mods. Never have been permitted afaik, never will be.
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Stahlregen
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Posted - 2006.04.08 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Alyth Ouch on the setup there man...
With regards to the portrait thing...EvE is not WoW, therefore no UI mods. Never have been permitted afaik, never will be.
My portrait is Admiral Ackbar
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.08 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Stahlregen
Originally by: Alyth Ouch on the setup there man...
With regards to the portrait thing...EvE is not WoW, therefore no UI mods. Never have been permitted afaik, never will be.
My portrait is Admiral Ackbar
ah yes, i forgot. the EULA clearly states "no UI mods unless they include admiral ackbar"
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2006.04.08 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Stahlregen
Well to be honest and precise, My surname is Stahlschmidt. Adding regen onto the end just sounds 100x more badass. I didnt really want to be talking about my surname on the internet for a couple hundred thousand people, you know? But it seems like you want me to elaborate and im fine with that if your that interested.
Nope, didn't want you to elaborate, a simple "It's a variation that I thought sounded more badass" would have been credible enough 
Anyway, it's still an unfortunate way to be "badass" but you're not the first guy to make that mistake. Topic closed.
On a brighter note: I'm still chuckling whenever I look at that screenshot. Maybe a wallpaper is in order  |

Makhan
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Posted - 2006.04.08 14:20:00 -
[99]
Originally by: nahtoh
Originally by: Makhan Edited by: Makhan on 08/04/2006 03:37:33
Originally by: nahtoh
Originally by: Stahlregen
Originally by: nahtoh Just a couple of questions...
1. Assuming your using fighters why do you only have frigs locked when BS are present?
2. Why does a cap ship have a autopilot set?
I havent even asked him this but from just reading the thread you could assume
1. He was trying to kill frigates incase they were warp scrambling him
2. He was trying to use autopilot to warp him out and get around the bug
How could you not figure this out yourself?
Well as his warp bar is almost full the scram thing is crap...
and it would have been a lot better to pre-align to planet/station whatever...
with the brutix there in the background of the screenshot its a pretty crap targeting piroity I would say...
I trying not to assume anything...
Clearly you know nothing than about missions, or reading threads for that matter.
Goonfleet alt?
Sorry dumbass but I used to run a lot of missions and I still help my corp mbrs out on theirs even though I no longer run em solo.
Now unless that brutix in teh back ground has has rails and no web it should be able to take those frigs down very fast, thats not counting its drones...
Its more likley that its crap co-ordination that killed that carrier more than anything else. keep the brtix in close to kill frigs fast use the fighters to take the BS then kill the cruisers as a mop up...
Or I don't know wait till DT when the respwan timer for the ammar fleet to reset?
theres 4 pilots in that gang I refuse to belive none of them were set for frig killing...
I am not in goonfleet, but I am a goon.
I take it back, not only do you know little of mission running and reading threads. You also know very little of how to spell words correctly.
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Bozl1n
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Posted - 2006.04.09 11:52:00 -
[100]
Originally by: JP Beauregard
Originally by: Celes'Tis
Originally by: JP Beauregard
Which begs the question why he (and his defender Stahlregen, obviously a reference to "In Stahlgewittern", Ernst Jnnger's autobiographical book on combat in WW I and an often uncritically read favorite of the militaristic maroonish crowd*) are tolerated here at all.
The only question that needs begging is why you feel the need to drone on and on and on in such a condescending manner and why you seem to be intent on having people banned from the game.
Also "nubtard" is offensive to me as it is an obvious reference to the word "retard", the Dictionary's premier insult filed under R and often uncritically read favorite of the intellectual bore crowd...
One day, I'll teach you about valueing substance over style. But not today, since you obviously lack an understanding of either.
You'll get to edit me when your application for forum moderator has been approved. Until then, you're only trolling, i.e. purposefully distorting other people's posts with the intent of creating a spurious argument for your own gratification.
Eat your own bait.
Nice to see your still making frends and are as popular as ever JP
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2006.04.09 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Makhan I am not in goonfleet, but I am a goon.
I take it back, not only do you know little of mission running and reading threads. You also know very little of how to spell words correctly.
Wow a spelling flame...how lame?
And even better Mr one line reply himself whos solution of record for the lvl 1 worlds collide mission is "assault fig or friends" is telling me I don't know anything about mission running... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |

Makhan
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Posted - 2006.04.09 13:31:00 -
[102]
Originally by: nahtoh
Originally by: Makhan I am not in goonfleet, but I am a goon.
I take it back, not only do you know little of mission running and reading threads. You also know very little of how to spell words correctly.
Wow a spelling flame...how lame?
And even better Mr one line reply himself whos solution of record for the lvl 1 worlds collide mission is "assault fig or friends" is telling me I don't know anything about mission running...
well isn't it 
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2006.04.09 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Stahlregen
Originally by: Alyth With regards to the portrait thing...EvE is not WoW, therefore no UI mods. Never have been permitted afaik, never will be.
My portrait is Admiral Ackbar
We had some ideas about the whole modifying portrait thing ourselves. We asked a GM if we could modify portraits - he initially said yes, but when it was upped to a senior GM, it was deemed an exploit and not allowed. We've had this confirmed from several GM's since and won't be exploiting using a portrait change, despite the many ideas we've had for it.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Alessia Charm
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Posted - 2006.04.09 16:57:00 -
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This thread is so full of stupidity it makes my brain hurt. Illiteracy is far too common on the internet.
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Xeios
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Posted - 2006.04.09 17:06:00 -
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Oki ladies and gentalmen be honest now. Hands up those of you that can remember that this is a game.
Ammusing read but time for a reality check methinks.
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2006.04.09 17:53:00 -
[106]
khihi
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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Meeko Gloom
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Posted - 2006.04.09 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Meeko Gloom on 09/04/2006 18:11:14
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: mirel yirrin What exactly are you tryin to point out here ?
That it was a particuler nasty dictator from the mid 20th century replacing the char portraits or that the ship was about to die?
that it appears someone (remedial) lost a carrier to a lvl3 mission
First off thats a lvl 2 mission called human cattle 5 of 5, the dumbass tried to take on the amarr fleet to go beyond the extra gate, to see the prize
Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui Edited by: D''onryu Shoqui on 07/04/2006 16:20:31 looks like the level 3 mission that has the massive amarr fleet of like 20BS + loads of other smaller ships that you arent suposed to kill 
if its the mission im thinking of you are suposed to enter the gate of the last stage and kill a little frig then the mission is over and theres an amarr fleet sat 300km away.
heres a pic of the fleet your not suposed to kill http://snoop1050.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/amarrfleet.jpg
and second a sheild tanked brutix WTF --------------------------
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Teblin
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Posted - 2006.04.09 18:58:00 -
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This thread has degraded into flames and I beleive exhausted all constructive conversation that's to be had on the topic. I'm locking this.
To those that are discussing modification of portraits in-game, it is an exploit. It has been said many times and confirmed by GMs and senior GMs that any game mechanic or UI modification not availible through the game's standard interface is an exploit. Don't be surprised if you get caught - punishments for violating the EULA include anything up to and including permanant game bans.
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