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Anti Derivative	Posted - 2006.04.07 18:59:00 - [61] Edited by: Anti Derivative on 07/04/2006 18:59:25 http://www.punaday.com/images/moreimages/sausagelinks001.JPG mmmm
Celes'Tis	Posted - 2006.04.07 19:24:00 - [62] Originally by: JP Beauregard Which begs the question why he (and his defender Stahlregen, obviously a reference to "In Stahlgewittern", Ernst Jnnger's autobiographical book on combat in WW I and an often uncritically read favorite of the militaristic maroonish crowd*) are tolerated here at all. The only question that needs begging is why you feel the need to drone on and on and on in such a condescending manner and why you seem to be intent on having people banned from the game. Also "nubtard" is offensive to me as it is an obvious reference to the word "retard", the Dictionary's premier insult filed under R and often uncritically read favorite of the intellectual bore crowd...
JP Beauregard	Posted - 2006.04.07 19:34:00 - [63] Originally by: Celes'Tis Originally by: JP Beauregard Which begs the question why he (and his defender Stahlregen, obviously a reference to "In Stahlgewittern", Ernst Jnnger's autobiographical book on combat in WW I and an often uncritically read favorite of the militaristic maroonish crowd*) are tolerated here at all. The only question that needs begging is why you feel the need to drone on and on and on in such a condescending manner and why you seem to be intent on having people banned from the game. Also "nubtard" is offensive to me as it is an obvious reference to the word "retard", the Dictionary's premier insult filed under R and often uncritically read favorite of the intellectual bore crowd... One day, I'll teach you about valueing substance over style. But not today, since you obviously lack an understanding of either. You'll get to edit me when your application for forum moderator has been approved. Until then, you're only trolling, i.e. purposefully distorting other people's posts with the intent of creating a spurious argument for your own gratification. Eat your own bait. JP Beauregard ============================== Please stop treating me like you were an idiot.
fmercury	Posted - 2006.04.07 19:48:00 - [64] Originally by: JP Beauregard Originally by: Zyncast Originally by: Ithildin * The pilot who took this screenshot revealed himself to be using a portrait exploit. The modification of what portraits shown is not permitted by the EULA. I have on good authority that it is not and in fact many corporations do this. Nonsense. This very topic came up in Help this afternoon and quickly drew GM Xhagen's attention. He actually confirmed that having the client execute your own Python scripts is not permitted: Quote: [ 2006.04.07 14:27:55 ] GM Xhagen > and the answer to your question is, no, it is not allowed to change the client in this way Yeah, I know. I too was shocked. Not. Good thing it doesn't change the client in any way then, huh?
Ficus O'Plant	Posted - 2006.04.07 19:56:00 - [65] Damn so you mean when i clear my cache it alters the portraits by removing them i better be banned for this.
Jin Entres	Posted - 2006.04.07 20:05:00 - [66] Man, who would've thought one picture would incite this much discussion?
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.07 20:46:00 - [67] Originally by: fmercury Good thing it doesn't change the client in any way then, huh? How bloody unambiguous must the message be for it to get through? You're modifying the client's operation. It's the same way people used to change models and textures so that they could run at higher FPS and outblob their enemy without lag. Or the time people changed the cloaking sounds so they could hear people cloak at the other side of the grid easilly. It's something you do that changes how things look or work in the client and it's not bloody allowed any more than a maphack is on other games. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Celes'Tis	Posted - 2006.04.07 20:51:00 - [68] Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: fmercury Good thing it doesn't change the client in any way then, huh? How bloody unambiguous must the message be for it to get through? You're modifying the client's operation. It's the same way people used to change models and textures so that they could run at higher FPS and outblob their enemy without lag. Or the time people changed the cloaking sounds so they could hear people cloak at the other side of the grid easilly. It's something you do that changes how things look or work in the client and it's not bloody allowed any more than a maphack is on other games. Just out of interest were you able to read the GM response Calenth posted before it was removed?
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2006.04.07 20:55:00 - [69] Originally by: Jin Entres Man, who would've thought one picture would incite this much discussion? snip I personally have doubts as to the "warp bug" story. That ship aligns like a turd, I think the owner got lucky getting it reimbursed, ofc the point is moot. What is beyond doubt is there are some setups out there that take "creative" to new lows Removed EULA violation - Teblin
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.07 20:56:00 - [70] Originally by: Celes'Tis Just out of interest were you able to read the GM response Calenth posted before it was removed? No but I've seen this happen a lot. From what I remember, you're not allowed to post them because people could just fake them and there's no other witnesses to corroborate them like there are with the help channel or something. Since it's private communication, people can just make it up and nobody can call it into question. At least I'm pretty sure that's why it's not allowed. The rules just say it isn't shrug. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
neccette	Posted - 2006.04.07 22:12:00 - [71] Originally by: Deja Thoris Originally by: Jin Entres Man, who would've thought one picture would incite this much discussion? snip I personally have doubts as to the "warp bug" story. That ship aligns like a turd, I think the owner got lucky getting it reimbursed, ofc the point is moot. What is beyond doubt is there are some setups out there that take "creative" to new lows Removed EULA violation - Teblin So, you don't see that the ship is at full speed with "warping" in the speed bar? he was trying to get out of there. Though it's just my word, I was hanging out on Teamspeak when Rem said he needed to get out of there and was bugged from warping (this is before he started his tank and started using his cap). So I got a gang invite, undocked in cyno ship and popped a field up and listened while he died because he could not get out of warp to jump to my cyno.
Stahlregen	Posted - 2006.04.07 23:58:00 - [72] Edited by: Stahlregen on 08/04/2006 00:01:21 Originally by: JP Beauregard Edited by: JP Beauregard on 07/04/2006 18:48:23 Originally by: HippoKing i posted this before, and it was removed because remedial's portrait was showing that of a man famous for his poor taste in moustaches and genocide. i blanked the portraits myself in order to allow the picture to be posted. Which begs the question why he (and his defender Stahlregen, obviously a reference to "In Stahlgewittern", Ernst Jnnger's autobiographical book on combat in WW I and an often uncritically read favorite of the militaristic maroonish crowd) are tolerated here at all. But we disgress. My, what a cans of worms one inept pilot and his unwisely taken screenshots have opened... Edit: Oh, and I still want to know why the guy uses an overview setting that is worse than any nubtards. Being German, I should get to use the obvious cabbage pun, thank you. I hardly think i was defending him, Infact i think ive been very forthcomming with giving away infomation on what exactly happened. And as for implying that i am a national socialist based upon some vauge reference to some book whos name's prefix matches my own. W-hat. Stahlregen is my surname. Also, we asked rem why he did have such a horrible overview and he explained he was messing with it thinking that he was lagged out by it. One last thing: Quatin' Dis: Quote: Damn so you mean when i clear my cache it alters the portraits by removing them i better be banned for this. "Don't worry, My friend is just admiring the shape of your skull-throne."
Sadayiel	Posted - 2006.04.08 00:13:00 - [73] i never used a carrier or any other capital ship that requires a cyno to warp out but i would like to point several things for major knowdledge. 1st It's a thanatos Aka carrier si it's not inmune to EW mods, and it seems to be running a tank in lows not WCS 2nd check the ships type he got in target, at least 1 of those types may be able to warpscram the target with ease. 3rd even if cynofield open maybe the ships warping bar on capital show at full while they prepare to the jump in. found curious that malevel get SOOO surprised about that, specially if as neccette stated she get the distress call even before the carrier get to armor. Just pointing weird coincidences, TBH all i can wonder it's just theory. P.S: teach Covryn to learn how to use a Nos into enemy ships.... -------------------Sig----------------------- S.S.E. currently recruiting new players. Convo me or leave an eve-mail. Suicide it's man way to tell God. You can't fire me so I quit.
Cmdr Sy	Posted - 2006.04.08 00:34:00 - [74] It's almost certainly L3 Portal to War 2/5 second tier. Objective is destruction of an Amarr Control Tower, as referred to in the convo visible in the screenshot, and retrieval of a Data Chip. The ships shown are consistent with the reinforcements which spawn after an hour and a half have elapsed since entry into 2/5 first tier. I believe there are 3 waves in the respawn, and the victims either: 1) Took too long clearing out the Caldari Navy in the first tier, 2) Tried to chain the Amarr Navy reinforcements, 3) Found themselves with a spawn ahead of schedule as a result of a game bug For comparison, 5 guys vs L4 Enemies Abound 5/5, all waves already present, not chained: 175MB
nahtoh	Posted - 2006.04.08 01:05:00 - [75] Just a couple of questions... 1. Assuming your using fighters why do you only have frigs locked when BS are present? 2. Why does a cap ship have a autopilot set? ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Stahlregen	Posted - 2006.04.08 01:28:00 - [76] Originally by: nahtoh Just a couple of questions... 1. Assuming your using fighters why do you only have frigs locked when BS are present? 2. Why does a cap ship have a autopilot set? I havent even asked him this but from just reading the thread you could assume 1. He was trying to kill frigates incase they were warp scrambling him 2. He was trying to use autopilot to warp him out and get around the bug How could you not figure this out yourself? "Don't worry, My friend is just admiring the shape of your skull-throne."
Kurtz	Posted - 2006.04.08 02:14:00 - [77] JP, your in fine form today. The ôStahlgewitternö reference was a bit of a stretch though. Not every use of that historical figureÆs likeness is indicative of wanting to see a come back tour. Sometimes it is used playfully for representing a forceful leader. I am kind of hoping Kilrock drops by this thread.
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.08 02:16:00 - [78] Edited by: Nyphur on 08/04/2006 02:16:31 Originally by: Stahlregen 20 Navy Jakars warp in and another 50 or so cruisers. Care to comment on that, Stahlregen? Since you're posting. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Jaabaa Prime	Posted - 2006.04.08 02:29:00 - [79] Edited by: Jaabaa Prime on 08/04/2006 02:30:48 As Wrangler already stated in another locked thread "We haven't set up a lot of different forums just so you can link a thread in one of them to a thread in another one." So post this in the Missions forum. YAWN ..... -- Mini Skill Planner
Stahlregen	Posted - 2006.04.08 02:34:00 - [80] Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 08/04/2006 02:16:31 Originally by: Stahlregen 20 Navy Jakars warp in and another 50 or so cruisers. Care to comment on that, Stahlregen? Since you're posting. When we ran the mission we had to do much warping out upon being targetted as they were one shotting our frigates. Im sure someone who has done it before could give you a more accurate number you probably shouldnt take my estimate (exaggeration) literaly. All i can say for certain is that there were ****loads. "Don't worry, My friend is just admiring the shape of your skull-throne."
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.08 02:39:00 - [81] Originally by: Stahlregen Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 08/04/2006 02:16:31 Originally by: Stahlregen 20 Navy Jakars warp in and another 50 or so cruisers. Care to comment on that, Stahlregen? Since you're posting. When we ran the mission we had to do much warping out upon being targetted as they were one shotting our frigates. Im sure someone who has done it before could give you a more accurate number you probably shouldnt take my estimate (exaggeration) literaly. All i can say for certain is that there were ****loads. I've done it before. 10 BS, 10 cruisers, 10 frigs. Bit of a stretch from 20bs and 50 or so cruisers... And it's a normal mission, not a cosmos one. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Stahlregen	Posted - 2006.04.08 02:42:00 - [82] Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: Stahlregen Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 08/04/2006 02:16:31 Originally by: Stahlregen 20 Navy Jakars warp in and another 50 or so cruisers. Care to comment on that, Stahlregen? Since you're posting. When we ran the mission we had to do much warping out upon being targetted as they were one shotting our frigates. Im sure someone who has done it before could give you a more accurate number you probably shouldnt take my estimate (exaggeration) literaly. All i can say for certain is that there were ****loads. I've done it before. 10 BS, 10 cruisers, 10 frigs. Bit of a stretch from 20bs and 50 or so cruisers... And it's a normal mission, not a cosmos one. No, You are wrong, It is a cosmos mission. So obviously you havent done it before. "Don't worry, My friend is just admiring the shape of your skull-throne."
Makhan	Posted - 2006.04.08 02:47:00 - [83] Flame wars [X] Gross pictures []
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.08 02:50:00 - [84] Edited by: Nyphur on 08/04/2006 02:51:30 Originally by: Stahlregen No, You are wrong, It is a cosmos mission. So obviously you havent done it before. COSMOS consists of four separate constellations, one for each race. You won't find cosmos stuff outside of these except for a few agents in space that I'm told are hidden around 0.0. Covryn is not in a COSMOS constellation. If it has anything COSMOS related, it'd be a hidden complex since all COSMOS missions are static, but the only place you'll find the complexes are inside the constellation itself. If you're not satisfied with that, I can go scan for hidden complexes in the system just to disprove the notion that it's there. To reiterate, COSMOS missions don't spawn complexes and give you bookmarks like normal missions. They are static and use static complexes, hidden or otherwise. Not to mention that the image shows a little under 10 BS and 10 frigs with a few cruisers, which would be consistent with the 10-10-10 fleet in level 3 Portal to War, a normal deadspace mission in which the target is a control tower (or there's a control tower there and the target is one of the cathedrals next to it, I think). Which fits conveniently in with the chat text and mission level as well as the fleet spawn depicted in the screenshot. Want to recheck the info you have or will I break out the scan probes and show that Covryn is empty? Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
nahtoh	Posted - 2006.04.08 03:29:00 - [85] Originally by: Stahlregen Originally by: nahtoh Just a couple of questions... 1. Assuming your using fighters why do you only have frigs locked when BS are present? 2. Why does a cap ship have a autopilot set? I havent even asked him this but from just reading the thread you could assume 1. He was trying to kill frigates incase they were warp scrambling him 2. He was trying to use autopilot to warp him out and get around the bug How could you not figure this out yourself? Well as his warp bar is almost full the scram thing is crap... and it would have been a lot better to pre-align to planet/station whatever... with the brutix there in the background of the screenshot its a pretty crap targeting piroity I would say... I trying not to assume anything... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Cmdr Sy	Posted - 2006.04.08 03:31:00 - [86] Covryn does however contain Havrylallin Eurt, a III+10 Internal Security agent for Duvolle Laboratories at Covryn VI - M12, whom the non-blanked-out pilot in the convo uses. He is also the one talking about mission objectives. The others do not have the right standings. I have also never had Portal to War spawn outside the agent's home system. Thus, well, not only is the spawn a give-away, but here is the name of the agent who spawned it. And those frigs scramble. So I don't see how there could have been a 'warp bug'. My guess is, the 2.5 month old NPCer got owned by the Caldari Navy in the first tier of the 2/5, the timer expired and the Amarr Navy spawned in the second tier before the tower could be destroyed and the data chip retrieved, and the unfortunate Goonfleet people decided to lend a hand. Sometimes a picture truly speaks a thousand words, when each clue can be looked up in a database.
Makhan	Posted - 2006.04.08 03:36:00 - [87] Edited by: Makhan on 08/04/2006 03:37:33 Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: Stahlregen Originally by: nahtoh Just a couple of questions... 1. Assuming your using fighters why do you only have frigs locked when BS are present? 2. Why does a cap ship have a autopilot set? I havent even asked him this but from just reading the thread you could assume 1. He was trying to kill frigates incase they were warp scrambling him 2. He was trying to use autopilot to warp him out and get around the bug How could you not figure this out yourself? Well as his warp bar is almost full the scram thing is crap... and it would have been a lot better to pre-align to planet/station whatever... with the brutix there in the background of the screenshot its a pretty crap targeting piroity I would say... I trying not to assume anything... Clearly you know nothing than about missions, or reading threads for that matter.
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.08 03:44:00 - [88] Originally by: Cmdr Sy And those frigs scramble. So I don't see how there could have been a 'warp bug'. Sometimes a picture truly speaks a thousand words, when each clue can be looked up in a database. Well the frigs DO scramble but it wasn't showing as such on his computer. Eitehr it was a display bug, which you don't get reimbured for, or the infamous warp bug, where your ship never aligns to warp. Given the fact it's a capital ship, I'd believe that it's not a warp bug but it's just slow getting to warp. Those things take ages to align and missiles can knock it off. But if a GM reinbursed them, that means they confirmed a bug server-side, I guess. Also, the setup on that ship was probably designed to fight the caldari navy and it's a bad setup to begin with so it's perfectly understandable that the Portal to War fleet could destroy the carrier. It's just sad to see people have to exaggerate the odds they lost against to justify it, especially considering the fact that goonfleet can pay for a carrier by collectively mining for a single day. It's no big loss. (Good detective work. We need a TV show where we solve crimes). Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.04.08 04:23:00 - [89] regardless of anything else :\| omgwtf setup is that :\| ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
nahtoh	Posted - 2006.04.08 05:08:00 - [90] Originally by: Makhan Edited by: Makhan on 08/04/2006 03:37:33 Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: Stahlregen Originally by: nahtoh Just a couple of questions... 1. Assuming your using fighters why do you only have frigs locked when BS are present? 2. Why does a cap ship have a autopilot set? I havent even asked him this but from just reading the thread you could assume 1. He was trying to kill frigates incase they were warp scrambling him 2. He was trying to use autopilot to warp him out and get around the bug How could you not figure this out yourself? Well as his warp bar is almost full the scram thing is crap... and it would have been a lot better to pre-align to planet/station whatever... with the brutix there in the background of the screenshot its a pretty crap targeting piroity I would say... I trying not to assume anything... Clearly you know nothing than about missions, or reading threads for that matter. Goonfleet alt? Sorry dumbass but I used to run a lot of missions and I still help my corp mbrs out on theirs even though I no longer run em solo. Now unless that brutix in teh back ground has has rails and no web it should be able to take those frigs down very fast, thats not counting its drones... Its more likley that its crap co-ordination that killed that carrier more than anything else. keep the brtix in close to kill frigs fast use the fighters to take the BS then kill the cruisers as a mop up... Or I don't know wait till DT when the respwan timer for the ammar fleet to reset? theres 4 pilots in that gang I refuse to belive none of them were set for frig killing... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self

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