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Uncauzi
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Posted - 2006.04.08 08:27:00 -
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Edited by: Uncauzi on 08/04/2006 08:31:37
Seems to me the problem is the concept of the zerg, for all sides, not that any one side is invincible.
Could IRON/G have stood up to BOB? Could others? Sure, why not, but zerg fights aren't as cool for most people as smaller group fights, so maybe that's the real reason this thread was started?
I like large and small fights, just throwing out this thought 'fore I hit the sack..
Personally, I think it's both reasons. Little bit of cowardice, and a little hatred of zerg/blob wars that's causing this lack of resistance to bob.
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Lag Fest
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Posted - 2006.04.08 08:31:00 -
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totally agree on that m8... instead of coming here and forcing me to activate my "forum warrior" mode u could instead try ato assemble that crap members of ur crappy corp and actually come and give us a fight.. u don't have to win but put up an fight and u'll earn out respect.. just like G did once upon a time...
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Gothmog
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Posted - 2006.04.08 08:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Excentrica Gallumbits
Not far from today Bob will have several "I-win"-buttons (also known as Titans with Doomsday-Weapons) and will be able to hold down anyone else in the game. Noone else gets an "I-win"-button (and don't tell me just to hide, big alliances have options to find even top-secret-shipyards) and if noone else gets the I-win button then they will chain whole fleets with their I-win-Button: "oh, 1500 ships attacking our Outpost? Well, three I-win-buttons and even the pots of their tanked capitals are gone."
BoB actually is known up in the North as the "70% aliance" because they control more or less 70% of all Zerospace. Everyone is allied or befriended to them more or less, maybe except RA and V and those two are too humping each other. Oh, and there is the shadow formerly known as Stain Alliance (I heared Bob-Academy improved them from "training-targets" to "drops mediocre loot") and Tribal Souls - an alliance which would be a good match maybe for ISS but not for Bob.
Obviously they don't go for a 100% domination of Zerospace because THAT would be thwarted by CCP, indirectly at least. But if you see that 70% of Eve comes because Bob demands and ganks 4% of Eve and not only once but thrice then this is an alliance. Just because they don't share the same ally-ticker they still may share common command-levels, maybe even the same directors of their corps.
They are not out for fair fights but for ganking weaklings and letting noone rise against their "I-win" buttons. And they will have a waggonload of I-win buttons til end of the year.
u actually read any of other threads?
or your bitter hate of Bob just blind u..?
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Draximus Prime
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Posted - 2006.04.08 08:46:00 -
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The sky is falling!!
The sky is falling!!
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PainBall
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Posted - 2006.04.08 09:06:00 -
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LOL @ slothe :)) If i was bitter i would say : cry me a river. But lets get realistic and i`ll tell u this : if Ronaldinho its so good at football that doesnt meant the others have to quit playing mmk? Role models should be good and inspire the other ppl to be like them or better. And tell ure npcers to dont fit stabs on npc ships thats outrageous. ^_^
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Mortuus
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Posted - 2006.04.08 09:13:00 -
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Well Painball, you know I'm not one to give up, no matter the odds. But I even have a hard time justifying trying to fight a force that is this superior in numbers and logistics.
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Calmity Jayne
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Posted - 2006.04.08 09:27:00 -
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Eve is a game. BOB play the game much much better than anyone else at the moment. If the rest of EVE wants to beat BOB, they have to play the game better. Moaning about how good BOB is all the time is a waste of breath.
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Darth Hammer
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Posted - 2006.04.08 09:29:00 -
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The rest of the alliances should wake up and set their petty differences aside.I have seen server wars before and this looks no different.What I heard was going on to the ppl that were trying to get out of pure blind disgusts me.That and the knowledge that the attack on EC happened before the mention of war.Its time for the remaining alliances to band together to remove the menace.
The longer you sit in silence the more chance you wont survive the coming storm.
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Koval
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Posted - 2006.04.08 09:38:00 -
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Edited by: Koval on 08/04/2006 09:43:56
Originally by: Darth Hammer
The rest of the alliances should wake up and set their petty differences aside.I have seen server wars before and this looks no different.What I heard was going on to the ppl that were trying to get out of pure blind disgusts me.That and the knowledge that the attack on EC happened before the mention of war.Its time for the remaining alliances to band together to remove the menace.
The longer you sit in silence the more chance you wont survive the coming storm.
you see, there are 2 things that makes it impossible =]
1. 90% of these wretched entities would rather nap bob instead of fighting
2. If bob see any threat they will choose to recruit the strongest friendly pvp force, until there is no threat again.
Challenge my ass..
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Ostor LightDust
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Posted - 2006.04.08 09:44:00 -
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your all a bunch of freaking noobs
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2006.04.08 09:45:00 -
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Instead of fighting, everyone whining here. Its very funny.
Where you all have been, during EC-P8R op ? Wait, you bandwagoned around the strong. Now you screaming like a *****s : "omg, client ****** me, and didn`t payed". You just got what you deserved.
As for industrial wing of bob. Bob didn`t played pos chess at all. How can you judge about theyr industry wing ? Try to anchor towers for 36 hours, without sleep, how Goonies did during 5 war vs RA. And you`ll understand what i mean.
Who is able to challenge BoB ?
F-E - dont think so. Atuk alone bring them on theyr knees. Now they have 3 more corps, with same size as atuk.
LV\V\KAOS\CHIMP ? Highly doubt. Since after 2 weeks of war - they`ll just start to shoot each others, and then - run, like they did 5 times allready.
RA ? No. Just no. Don`t ask.
Fix ? I fought theyr elite forces (triad) in HED for almost year. Nothing unusual. Yes, they are good, but alliance warfare is about average skill of alliancemembers. How many active guys triad have ? 50 ? 100 ? Bob have 300 - 400.
ASCN ? I think, that they`ve got highest chance to survive bob invasion. The only danger, is that BoB will start to sucking leaders from ASCN, like they allready did. (KSUDruid - he was one of the leading peeps in ascn. Correct me if i`m wrong).
G\Iron ? I don`t know whats happened here, but i hope, that they`ll regroup in empire, and create nomadic type alliance, like BoB supposed to be.
Personally i think, that EVE should thank BoB for providing challenge. At least my corp will fight them till they exist. Because only fighting strong will make you stronger.
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.04.08 09:53:00 -
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20,000 people online, 200 online in BoB at any given time. If someone could unite the various factions against us, you could stand a chance in beating us.
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Alberta
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Posted - 2006.04.08 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Ziyi Zhang
Edited by: Ziyi Zhang on 08/04/2006 02:05:18
meh not worth the bother.
Here's a nice example.
1) Too spineless to stand up and be counted as your main.
2) Couldn't be bothered to put the effort in to do the job of posting.
If you want to make a difference, you'll have to do better than that.
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Crux Australis
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Posted - 2006.04.08 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki
20,000 people online, 200 online in BoB at any given time.
Amen.
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Bullvar
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Posted - 2006.04.08 10:08:00 -
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Quick set up an I.G.A, called Anti-BoB, with all over alliances joining, that might just make a fair fight lmao
really who gives a ****, play game or leave
/me packs bags for Auto Assualt
Heid
today is a good day to die!!!
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2006.04.08 10:15:00 -
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I'm not here to praise BoB or F-E or anybody. Just to lay out my opinion.
Prophetguru hit it on the nose with his post on page 3 IMO.
Most of EVE has gotten fat and lazy. Since RMR and the cluster upgrade (and even before that for many) people have just gotten complacent. We have all these little microscopic allinces running aorund doing whatever. The days of major alliances is over my friends.
I have a great deal of respect for alliances who have pulled their act together and worked to forge something they feel is important to them ingame. They are going beyond making ISK, buying a Slave Set or agent running to get that Navy Raven.
Sure you may feel threatened by the fourth largest alliance in the game.... but why? Doesn't F-E have almost 500 more members? Cannot ASCN bully them around with more than double their numbers???
It's when people in these large alliances throw in the towel of doubt and make such claims as "they are too damn uber for all of EVE" that you have pretty much lost the battle before you even began to fight.
Unity in your alliance, rallying around a cause is the keys to success. The Mercenary Coalition is one of the smaller alliances in the game at just over 200 members and we do things that alliances 5x our size can't accomplish. We do it because we are a team. If your alliance isn't a team then you have lost against a unified alliance of equal (or much smaller size) for sure.
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Corsair Thunder
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Posted - 2006.04.08 10:15:00 -
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Tbh, more people who join bob = more targets for us non-bob folk \o/
I'm not complaining!
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kaaskop
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Posted - 2006.04.08 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
Edited by: slothe on 08/04/2006 00:46:25
I cant see any other 0.0 alliance realistically fighting BoB and winning.
don't under estimate ascn and axe in there home turf.
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Lag Fest
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Posted - 2006.04.08 10:23:00 -
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the main problems other alliances have is that they are more worried about quantity than quality..
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2006.04.08 10:27:00 -
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Edited by: Snake Jankins on 08/04/2006 10:30:00
For me it's just a standing reset so far.
What does it mean ? Don't know, except that we might shoot eachother.
We'll know more, when BoB does the next move.
Btw. the whole thing is not my problem anyway as a simple alliance member, unless someone asks me of my opinion. I shoot at what I'm told to shoot and if it's BoB, then it's BoB. I feel just a bit dizzy, because of all these announcements. I expected the so called phase4 later, maybe in a few months after our south-east conflict is solved, but that's all.
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Lag Fest
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Posted - 2006.04.08 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: Snake Jankins
Btw. the whole thing is not my problem anyway as a simple alliance member, unless someone asks me of my opinion. I shoot at what I'm told to shoot and if it's BoB, then it's BoB.
that's what i call a soldier.. respect m8
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Ixchebel
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Posted - 2006.04.08 10:44:00 -
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 Slothe, quit posting when you're drunk 
You know that when balance shifts one way order is pretty quickly restored, one way or the other. The game play has to change as there is so much beginning to evolve, and it will. If things were still the same as they were 2 years ago most of us would have left. It keeps it interesting. For now we wait, we watch, and we kill stuff. 
Besides.../me waits for the next uber patch announcement that'll change everything anyway
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Wuubaa
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Posted - 2006.04.08 10:46:00 -
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adapt or shhhh.
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2006.04.08 10:53:00 -
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Edited by: Darko1107 on 08/04/2006 10:54:12
BoB wont dominate 0.0
I think we should all make a pact. If bob get more than 6 regions, everyone else Naps together, goes to jita, and makes a superfleet with everyone in local, split it in 2, like send 800 people each way, and attack a seperate part of BoB space each.
BoB will have fun, we'll have fun \o/.
Instead i think half of you will just keep yourselves to yourselves so that your time of death is just delayed. Most of you only have yourself to blame for BoB's current status.
I still thinks its guna be fun.
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Shar Gath
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Posted - 2006.04.08 10:55:00 -
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the BoB dudes really has to have fun reading all this **** on the forums. reroll WoW if u cant handle what is going on in EVE.
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2006.04.08 10:55:00 -
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Just step back and look at yourselves.
You are already defeated before you even begin.
I will tell you how to beat BOB. It's to do what we did.
Long before this all began, in a time only few people remember these days, there were 2 entities in EVE: Endless Corporation with Hellgremlin as one of its leaders and Taggart Transdimensional Incorporated with Ragnar as its head. EVE was polarized into camps of one or the other, but 13 people had their own vision. With 13 people, only 7 of which knew how to fly ships properly they declared war on Endless. They went on to be at the center of every conflict from then onwards and remain so until this day.
We remember all of these things in thanks to those that have given us something to strive against.
BOB has never "risen" to its position of strength from any vaccum created when old powers leave. We have always been on the road, taking each step towards our goals. We are still as we have always been and we have in no way reached the heights that are possible for any corporation or alliance in EVE.
Do not speak of impossibilities because it is defeatist. It does not matter what you have, it does not matter what you are up against. What matters is what you do to achieve your dreams, the choices you make in that journey, and whether or not you are able to be true to who you are.
If you fail, let it not be because you have forgotten how to dream.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2006.04.08 11:01:00 -
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"When walking through the "valley of shadows," remember, a shadow is cast by a Light.."
"We brake for nobody"
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Tyto
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Posted - 2006.04.08 11:04:00 -
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Edited by: Tyto on 08/04/2006 11:04:44
I don't think there is a problem.
Throughout history (real and Eve) Empires rise and fall. Who in the ancient world would have stepped up to defeat Rome or The British Empire?
If there isn't an enemy to do it, Empires tend to collapse from internal divisions and along comes another Empire that will last a thousand years.
It's all part of the rich tapestry.
Roman Empire, British Empire, Mo0, Curse Alliance, PA, now BoB. In a year you'll be saying the same about someone else.
I'm sure there are some clever political theories explaining this.
Meantime, good luck BoB, ride the wave, write your legends.
T
(Bah please ignore sig, not JF anymore!)
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darth solo
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Posted - 2006.04.08 11:08:00 -
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like iv always said slothe.. ppl join them because most of eve players are cowards.. thats why i was as annoyed when u guys teamed up with the winning team and decided not to fight them..
Ill never move to the so called winning side, my EVE fun is in fighting the big boys... but u are correct in that ppl will either move to BOB or just leave EVE, i know a few ppl that are already thinking about it... The reason BOB do so good is they have a shockingly high % of forum users.. they are all over threads as soon as they start... this intimidates alot of EVE users... thats a shame.
A while ago some powerfull eve players were looking to get together(Alliance leaders and corp leaders) and take on the superpower at the time.. i think it was 5.... but it never came to...
Id be happy to throw away old grudges to fight BOB united for the sake of EVE. But is really that many good pvpers left that arnt in BOB that would be prepared to work together?.. prob not.
PPL need to grow some balls.
d solo.
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Elendar
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Posted - 2006.04.08 11:09:00 -
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time for fe to betray their current allies and go napping again i fear
Originally by: Derith
not even jesus loves you
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