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slothe
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:46:00 -
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Edited by: slothe on 08/04/2006 00:46:25
This is also no joke alongside other threads.
Eve for a long time has been balanced by alliances that have fought each other and conflicts have ravaged areas of 0.0 space.
however recent events have shown the balance of power to have shifted in a direction that has balanced the power unevenly in one direction.
this has been prophecised by numerous people. the power was split evenly (imo) between 5 and bob until the surprising breakup of 5 with 5's powerhouse ATUK joining BoB. I never thought this woul happen as (as i quite rightly thought) ATUK would never be let into bob as was. Instead ATUk morphed into another incarnation to enable them to join BoB and others followed.
My concern is this...
I cant see any other 0.0 alliance realistically fighting BoB and winning.
So why bother...?
indeed.
my concern is BoB has grown so strong.. and TOO strong no-one will bother. BoB could, and indeed will dominate 0.0.
BoB could potentially ruin EvE as is.
Dont get me wrong i <3 blacklight and db preacher and fanbois (and i think they know that) BUT no realistic opposition to BoB = the end of eve. Simply noone will be bothered to stop an immovable force. People will move to other games. maybe sell accounts, and try someting different.
Seeing the end of BMC and G and even IRON illustrates that to me. Who else will figt BoB? No-one, thats the problem. eve end game is here. ill kill my character if this continues and i love this game.
slothe out o/
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Destable
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:47:00 -
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Edited by: Destable on 08/04/2006 00:54:19
Cheer up man :) You know I <3 you, but what you're talking about is a long way from happening. People get bored, change, new forces rise up, stuff happens. Nothing is ever the same in EVE in any 6 mos period. Yes, there will always be the strong, defined primarily by quality leaders willing to make the sacrifice to develop the strong....but EVE is big. Until someone gets so big that they can, on a multiple-daily basis control all of the eve territories, things will continue to develop and evolve. Despite the "strong" coming occasionally.
Think of these things like a tornado/earthquake/whatever. Powerful when they sweep through, but then people move on, and each cycle has less of an impact overally as people adapt. Really, it all promotes growth in the game and players. What was good enough 2 years ago, isn't today. Territorial claims that worked a year ago, don't work today. Alliance sizing, requirement, and playstyle that used to be fun, might not be now. So we re-invent the game. Those who don't have fun, leave. Those that discover a new way to have fun, stay, and they cycle starts anew.
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Rael Anshak
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:48:00 -
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 Originally by: slothe
this has been prophecised by numerous people. the power was split evenly (imo) between 5 and bob until the surprising breakup of 5 with 5's powerhouse ATUK joining BoB. I never thought this woul happen as (as i quite rightly thought) ATUK would never be let into bob as was. Instead ATUk morphed into another incarnation to enable them to join BoB and others followed.
ATUK was always part of BoB, whether in the IGA or not. Now they've joined the IGA under DICE.
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OzaLoni
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:49:00 -
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Something to help make you feel better
"Some things in life are bad
They can really make you mad
Other things just make you swear and curse.
When you're chewing on life's gristle
Don't grumble, give a whistle
And this'll help things turn out for the best..."
All together now
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:49:00 -
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Kieron, quick !, nerf BoB !
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Sochin
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:49:00 -
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Thank god!
I had literally just gotten bored with the other 8 BoB threads on the front page.
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slothe
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:50:00 -
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its not nerf bob
i just cant see the ying to the yang?
where is it?
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ponieus
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:51:00 -
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Edited by: ponieus on 08/04/2006 00:51:17
yes nerf the BoB
Originally by: slothe
its not nerf bob
i just cant see the ying to the yang?
where is it?
naw its there jsut isnt public yet ......
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
its not nerf bob
i just cant see the ying to the yang?
where is it?
Cant we be the ying?
I mean, you almost blame us for being what we are.
You want a force that can beat us ? Create it, get people, regroup, train, get tactics, hell, try to get, may be, even some skills!
And beleive me, that would be nice for us too 
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slothe
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:53:00 -
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personally in a game of counterstrike if i found i was on the winning team too often i would join the losing team to even things up. sometimes losing is as profitable as winning. but i guess this attitude is not universal?
bleh dont know why i bother.
you realise if this continues eve will die? you really want that?
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Darth Tater
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:53:00 -
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Quote:
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?
- WOPR aka Joshua 
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Tater 4tw!
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Zalasar
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:53:00 -
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well atm sure they are a powerhouse in the game.
But sooner or later things ussualy changes in eve.
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Mankind mkII
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:55:00 -
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Cheer up slo the end of eve is still far far away 
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slothe
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: dimensionZ
Originally by: slothe
its not nerf bob
i just cant see the ying to the yang?
where is it?
Cant we be the ying?
I mean, you almost blame us for being what we are.
You want a force that can beat us ? Create it, get people, regroup, train, get tactics, hell, try to get, may be, even some skills!
And beleive me, that would be nice for us too
i dont blame you. you are what you are and i respect that.and i do. but one sided games are not games there excersises. like playing your 5 year old niece at chess. sure you winn. but what satisfaction is that?
sure she can train up and get better, but why repeatedly beat her while shes training for the next ten years?
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:57:00 -
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Oi mate!
I think you and a lot of other people are thinking too much. People seem to be attributing us with so many schemes and hidden plots that I'm amazed at our alleged capabilities.
Just go with the flow, see where it takes you and react to the changing winds. Have fun while on the journey.
It is just that simple.
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Jarek Naumen
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:58:00 -
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All big empires reach a peak period then they decline. I foresee this for BoB as well. If they start taking on the rest of Eve that will be a fight that they cannot win. It might last a long time if they really are so powerful but eventually a fight vs everyone will take it's toll and can't be won.
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2006.04.08 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
Originally by: dimensionZ
Originally by: slothe
its not nerf bob
i just cant see the ying to the yang?
where is it?
Cant we be the ying?
I mean, you almost blame us for being what we are.
You want a force that can beat us ? Create it, get people, regroup, train, get tactics, hell, try to get, may be, even some skills!
And beleive me, that would be nice for us too
i dont blame you. you are what you are and i respect that.and i do. but one sided games are not games there excersises. like playing your 5 year old niece at chess. sure you winn. but what satisfaction is that?
sure she can train up and get better, but why repeatedly beat her while shes training for the next ten years?
Then again, what can we do ? What can ccp do ?
Nothing.
How many times, in eve history, you saw a force that seemt unbeatable and actually got beaten? Well, i guess a lot.
Don't lose hope mate, take a week, relax, may be a little therapy, and come back in game, and start an anti-bob campaign!
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Agent Kenshin
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Posted - 2006.04.08 01:00:00 -
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Its one of the bigger points of the game most of the alliances in the game are still working on the industry backbone to match BoB. We all know ASCN has that industry but not the same pvp. Maybe the numbers but not the expirence. But BoB has both and they work it well. Everyone has always been obsessed with kill ratios and up until RMR and outposts and everything there really hasnt been a reason to come and take your enemies space. There still really isnt a reason to come and take your enemies space as the only thing worth taking space for is either A. Stations and outposts or B. Because of minerals. Or perhaps complexes. But you can find minerals just about anywhere else.
I dont know maybe everyone else is still living in the past with thinking that having fun = blowing up more ships than the enemy. In which case if the other major alliances in the game continue to think that the ways of the old are fun and more fun than now. BoB will only be defeated by themselves... Its sad to see so many alliances crumble for so many reasons. Especially the POS thing. Too many alliances are fighting just to fight and not much else.
Originally by: MAXSuicide
only carebears call pvpers 'greifers'
ehehehh....
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2006.04.08 01:01:00 -
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well slothe,
it started with a ferox.
now see where we are ;)
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slothe
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Posted - 2006.04.08 01:01:00 -
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i dont see bob declining at all they have only grown stronger.
maybe its my perception, but my perception gives me a jon in r/l as well as virtual life.
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.04.08 01:01:00 -
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Edited by: Zysco on 08/04/2006 01:02:41
Originally by: Jarek Naumen
All big empires reach a peak period then they decline. I foresee this for BoB as well. If they start taking on the rest of Eve that will be a fight that they cannot win. It might last a long time if they really are so powerful but eventually a fight vs everyone will take it's toll and can't be won.
I love these predictions of "omgz bob will decline." People thinking that don't understand how BoB, and the individual BoB corps work. Its not like 1 day Galavet is gonna wake up and be like "omg molle is *** im gonna leave bob."
LV/V/Chimp/KOS block can match BoB numbers wise. So can ASCN. Sure, maybe they aren't as skilled individually, or in fleets, but saying that because atuk joined bob they suddenly win eve is retarded. Once the north respawns (BoB has been chaining them for 2 years now) they will be able to field a fleet to challenge BoB again. This isn't "omg the end of eve," or any crap like that. Suck it up biches.
Originally by: Ginger Magician
I have the fingerspeed of a teenager the brains of a rocket scientist and the tactical nous of a 5 star general.
Why do u think I'm so freaking good?
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Roule
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Posted - 2006.04.08 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
its not nerf bob
i just cant see the ying to the yang?
where is it?
Cheer up Slothe we shall prevail and nobody has the strengh to control all of 0.0, not unless they treble there numbers.
BoB will fall sooner or later, coz we all know that where there is a beginning there is an end, and in the mean time there shall be plenty of fun on the fields of space
GL to all
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slothe
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Posted - 2006.04.08 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Zysco
Originally by: Jarek Naumen
All big empires reach a peak period then they decline. I foresee this for BoB as well. If they start taking on the rest of Eve that will be a fight that they cannot win. It might last a long time if they really are so powerful but eventually a fight vs everyone will take it's toll and can't be won.
I love these predictions of "omgz bob will decline." People thinking that don't understand how BoB, and the individual BoB corps work. Its not like 1 day Galavet is gonna wake up and be like "omg molle is *** im gonna leave bob."
LV/V/Chimp/KOS block can match BoB. So can ASCN. Once the north respawns (BoB has been chaining them for 2 years now) they will be able to field a fleet to match BoB again. This isn't "omg the end of eve," or any **** like that. Suck it up biches.
i hope that is the case. but im not convinced. i cant see the south fighting bob and vice versa, they are both not stupid.
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Agent Kenshin
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Posted - 2006.04.08 01:07:00 -
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It may be just me but you have to match BoB first on industrial power and numbers/skill. If you cant match the industrial side of things your in for a long campaign.. I think that might be why most alliances end up crumbling in the end. They exhuast their resources and just cant keep up with it... But this all could be just me...
Originally by: MAXSuicide
only carebears call pvpers 'greifers'
ehehehh....
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KayaYautja
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Posted - 2006.04.08 01:07:00 -
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I'll sign up on that anti-bob campaign...... DEATH TO THE EBIL POWERHOUSE THAT BE BOB!.
But really, they will fall eventually, i hope. Just look at what happened to Curse and PA, sure it took a while but they fell I mean PA had what, 4000 members or something at one point? Could be wrong but thats a lot and they died. It will happen.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2006.04.08 01:09:00 -
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certainly not the end of eve,
but the end of the known alliance landscape and a new beginning for many.
lets see what the future holds for us, as im sure only a few can guess whatll happen,
and tbh - to end eve wed have to fight the gms as last bastion and their gms are stronger then ours ;)
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2006.04.08 01:13:00 -
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The problem with BoB is that they soak up all the good people from the alliances they fight....
I know a lot of people who were fighting bob a year ago are trusted members now.
That shifts especially the experience towards BoB, and it *can* be dangerous for the eve cluster, because it is true that not many other alliances can even hope to match bob's power.
However, even they can't spread themselves too thin, so untill BoB has 4000 members, i wouldn't worry too much.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2006.04.08 01:14:00 -
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Speaking for myself I wouldn't worry too much.
Simple fact is if an alliance gets too large to the point it has no one to fight, people will get bored (pvpers especially). Over time people may leave and a new power will grow and things will bounce back to the way they were.
Nothing in 0.0 and EvE politics is very stable and power always shifts, example would be this G and Iron thing. For me they looked like a very solid force that was going to put up a fight for a long time. Suddenly stuffs happening and we get a post that G is closing etc (I'm not gonna pretend I know why).
Best just to keep going on, make your plans, react to the changes and just enjoy the game. Personally I've found stuff like this makes EvE more interesting, better than having the same old alliances fighting the same wars forever.
Anywho, I've had enough of this political *censcored* and I'm off to bed.
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slothe
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Posted - 2006.04.08 01:14:00 -
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perception > reality.
your own propaganda may be too good.
if people think theres no point anymore then they will leave.
exodus may be the right name for eve soon as everyone leaves.
im not being funny but if one llliance is seen as too powerful noone else will bother = less players = eve dead.
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.04.08 01:15:00 -
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In EVE there is a saying: "There is always a bigger dog."
...no matter how good someone will be, there will always be someone better.
...Question is: who the hell will step up to the plate and grasp the title, and then defend it against the rest of EVE?
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