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PERCYDAMAN
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Posted - 2003.09.16 16:34:00 -
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I think that if they had just implemented ONE of the promised content then it would have given most of the people complaining about the lack of it some hope. I like bug fixes...man are they needed. But even one content addition and I would be jumping for joy 
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.16 20:09:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Jim Raynor on 16/09/2003 09:02:44
Quote: yep keep increasing the powergrid reqs of large lasers! ill be able to equip 3 with engineering 5!!! weee...
Apocolypse can equip up to five. Their regular hits inflict uhm 450-500 dmg.. yeah, they use a lot of energy but how much do you need when you're hitting that hard? Not much. They******you. I lost half my shields instantly (my raven has close to 6,000 shields btw). Shield hardeners reduced it to like uhm.. maybe 250ish dmg? That's still quite a bit.
All I can say is don't expect to go up against tachyons and win unless you have way some to 'neutralize' their lasers. You will lose, no turret dishes out so much damage. Quite insane, tachyon > *.
And we all thought this patch didn't add content because it concentrated solely on balancing

What a *****.
Anyone get the feeling CCP's definition of balancing means "to rotate a best setup every 4 weeks to promote sales of various ship types"?
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.09.16 20:22:00 -
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Then again, the best you can realistically hope to fit are two, three Tachs.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.16 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 16/09/2003 20:29:30 We'll see.
I'm stuck with projectiles for the time being.
Well, not really stuck, but I can't be arsed to spend a week or so training a Large turret skill to level 4 when I don't really know whether it will be any good.
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Benco97
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Posted - 2003.09.16 20:36:00 -
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Personally I am very happy with the patch. My biggest annoyance was the cargo can updates :( But now they will update correctly I am happy. All the people who are talking about the lack of content are correct, Right now there is little to do if you are part of a big corp or a powerful freelancer (Is there such a thing?:)) BUT WAIT! Belive in CCP, Changes to the program like people are asking for aren't to be taken lightly. I realize that, Like myself, Several people who play EVE do regularly use programing languages, SURELY these people should stand up and say just how difficult it is to figure out why something doesn't work when you rush, for example Boss: "Why do you think the main menu background is now being displayed in pink and several pixel too far to the right?" Benco97: "Errr...Because you told me to put some new options on it and they are now conflicting with the previous code." Boss : "FIX IT YOU DUMBASS!"  This happened not too long ago....Don't tell anyone ;) -------------------------------------------- NEW! 1/1 scale assembled plastic model benco97, Six different poses, Buy one NOW!*
*not suitable for people under 21, May include some small parts and/or traces of nut
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.09.16 20:36:00 -
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Quote: Then again, the best you can realistically hope to fit are two, three Tachs.
2003.09.16 20:26:58 ----- Warping to PF-346 VIII - Asteroid Belt 1 2003.09.16 20:28:07 ----- Your Tachyon Beam Laser I is well aimed at Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 346.6 damage. 2003.09.16 20:28:11 ----- Your Tachyon Beam Laser I places an excellent hit on Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 372.1 damage. 2003.09.16 20:28:15 ----- Your Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Sentinel, wrecking for 745.2 damage. 2003.09.16 20:28:19 ----- For participating in the kill of a Serpentis Chief Sentinel your security status has been adjusted by 0.0001. 2003.09.16 20:28:20 ----- Your Tachyon Beam Laser I lightly hits Serpentis Chief Sentinel, doing 17.3 damage. 2003.09.16 20:28:28 ----- Your Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Sentinel, wrecking for 882.0 damage. 2003.09.16 20:28:34 ----- For participating in the kill of a Serpentis Chief Sentinel your security status has been adjusted by 0.0001. 2003.09.16 20:28:34 ----- Your Tachyon Beam Laser I places an excellent hit on Serpentis Chief Sentinel, inflicting 372.7 damage.
Hehe 
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.16 21:02:00 -
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Two perfect strikes in 6 shots.
Where did I put that nerf bat...........
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BlackVenom
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Posted - 2003.09.16 21:18:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: So get a bs u say then? Whell would really love to but how?
Join a big corp? Neh i want to do it on my own with my 2 real life buddy's.
So go mine? Cant there's just NO good or large amount of ore in the surrounding 4 systems ( about 16 in totaal ).
So kill npc? Yeah done that for 2 weeks... BORING!
The amount of ore that ships need is MASSIVE and we cant even GET tritanium! LOL! Hell not to think about megacyte cause we cant mine it and no money to buy it soooo WHAT THEN!? Wait until CCP ''notice'' there doing stupid thinges and not the improvement of the life spane or gameplay issue's. We pay so much but we get almost nothing..
Ummm, yeah... It's really impossible to mine for a battleship on your own, in fact it's so impossible that I did it just 2 weeks ago ON MY OWN 
I started with 7 million ISK, goal 1 battleship. End result: 1 battleship, 5 miner 2's, 2 425mm Rails, 10 million in skills, some damage mods, better cargo expanders, nanofibres, overdrives, better MWD's with 70 million ISK to spare for my lvl 2 battleship.
I mined all that in 1 (one) system, 4 jumps from a newbie system.
Please put in some effort 
Ur not reading my post the 16 systems surrounding me are DEPLEATED! the 0.0 next to us is kinda depleated to and overwelmed by pc pirates. I can offcourse mine a bs with belts that arent depleated 
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Dalaq
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Posted - 2003.09.16 21:24:00 -
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There is just no pleasing some people. Take a chill pill guys!
This is a huge patch! Any more in it and it's sure to crash
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Serak Tur
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Posted - 2003.09.16 21:24:00 -
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Edited by: Serak Tur on 16/09/2003 21:25:56 Am I the only one that sees something fishy in the weapon upgrades change?
Sorry didn't see the post above this one:)
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Koda
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Posted - 2003.09.16 21:27:00 -
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Edited by: Koda on 16/09/2003 21:28:25 Tis a good day for the Caldari nation. Missles won't cost so damn much to make and take up so much room in the cargo hold.
Leaves more room for goodies.
Oh and my 425's will now track faster and do more damage. Me likey. --------------
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.16 22:19:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Koda on 16/09/2003 21:28:25 Tis a good day for the Caldari nation. Missles won't cost so damn much to make and take up so much room in the cargo hold.
Leaves more room for goodies.
Oh and my 425's will now track faster and do more damage. Me likey.
But they don't track as well or do as much dmg as a tachyon.
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Worlocke
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Posted - 2003.09.16 22:20:00 -
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Whine, Whine, Whine, Whine.... is that all that all of you know how to do?
Yes, I understand that new skills are needed badly, I agree. Yes, the game gets monotonous at times.
However, several key things have been addressed and fixed.
Yes pirates are harder to kill, and they should be, but I also guess you missed the part that says it was done due to weapons being made more powerful as well.
Insurance is actually worthwhile now and people will be taking greater risks, the more risk = more ships lost and a boost to all the markets.
I have never seen a greater bunch of whiners in my life. Yes you pay a WHOLE 13 DOLLARS to play every month, and that is a damn bargain, hell I spend at least that much going to watch a movie, and that is only for 2 hours! you get a whole 690 hours of play time per month.
Quit yer crying, if you wanna help them move along faster, play on the test server and help catch all the bugs. "No beast so fierce knows but some touch of pity. But I know none and therefore am no beast." |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.16 22:24:00 -
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Quote: Whine, Whine, Whine, Whine.... is that all that all of you know how to do?
Yes, I understand that new skills are needed badly, I agree. Yes, the game gets monotonous at times.
However, several key things have been addressed and fixed.
Yes pirates are harder to kill, and they should be, but I also guess you missed the part that says it was done due to weapons being made more powerful as well.
Insurance is actually worthwhile now and people will be taking greater risks, the more risk = more ships lost and a boost to all the markets.
I have never seen a greater bunch of whiners in my life. Yes you pay a WHOLE 13 DOLLARS to play every month, and that is a damn bargain, hell I spend at least that much going to watch a movie, and that is only for 2 hours! you get a whole 690 hours of play time per month.
Quit yer crying, if you wanna help them move along faster, play on the test server and help catch all the bugs.
[/insert smarmy retort about whining about whining here]
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BlackVenom
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Posted - 2003.09.16 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: BlackVenom on 16/09/2003 22:31:54 I dont get why asking what u pay for is whining. Not all people have as much money as u! What i do want is the auto pilote fixed god i needed to jump 15 jumps so i thouth hell iam not going to wait here behind my pc to watch 15 jumps so i did autopilote and watched something on tv, so i return 1 hour later... 15 jumps to go! WENT OFF AGAIN.. I dont care if u all find me a cry baby i just want to get what i pay for.
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DJvGalen
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Posted - 2003.09.16 22:46:00 -
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Quote: Ur not reading my post the 16 systems surrounding me are DEPLEATED! the 0.0 next to us is kinda depleated to and overwelmed by pc pirates. I can offcourse mine a bs with belts that arent depleated 
Then move to a area that has ore, I don't see the problem, I traveled 2 regions today and the ore is the same there as here. Go mine in Placid 0.1 or something, kill the pirates pick up the armor repairers, i got 14 of those in 3 hours of killing pirates today, and recycle them for your mega.
You got your battleship and the dev's will soon fix that roid problem that starts with jaspet and everything above that. ------------------------------------------------ CCP please fix your patch so I can play with my corpmates again soon. |

Ka'loor
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Posted - 2003.09.16 22:49:00 -
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If this is the last big balance patch, its ok with me......little bits and pieces will always crop up hehe.......if they focus on Storyline now im happy :)
Oh yeah, i go to .2 and can only find baby omber, soon we will go 10 jumps into .0 to get omber, yes. i think the mobile refineries are going to help us there :)
Attack without mercy, until blood is gone, until life is gone, until the light is gone, unto the shadow itself.
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DJvGalen
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Posted - 2003.09.16 22:51:00 -
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Quote: Oh yeah, i go to .2 and can only find baby omber, soon we will go 10 jumps into .0 to get omber, yes. i think the mobile refineries are going to help us there :)
What do you call baby omber ?
Plenty of 180m radius rocks that yield 20-30k omber each in this area of EVE. ------------------------------------------------ CCP please fix your patch so I can play with my corpmates again soon. |

Deadmetal
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Posted - 2003.09.16 23:39:00 -
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Quote: No new skills... No new ore... No new mineral...
Everything must be in another patch.
Wellllll.... I'd have to agree that it's not overly constructive to ***** about these issues... after it's rather minor compared to some of the other things we've been experiencing.. but the patch shows that the Devs have actually listened... and implemented a lot of player suggestions.. and while nothing is or EVEr *heh* will be perfect.. they have really taken a whack at cleaning up some odds N sods in game. I for one applaud their efforts and heartily encourage them to keep up the good work...
"Human Nature - If someone put a big red button in a remote mountain cave with a sign on it 'End of the world button!! Do not push!!.. the paint wouldn't have a chance to dry." |

High Priestess
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Posted - 2003.09.16 23:44:00 -
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Much of this patch is good news but I'm sad to see niether Deep Core Mining nor the Miner II Blueprints are being added to the market.
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Deadmetal
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Posted - 2003.09.16 23:49:00 -
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Quote: Much of this patch is good news but I'm sad to see niether Deep Core Mining nor the Miner II Blueprints are being added to the market.
HEAR HEAR!!! yes please.. MINER 2's and DeepCore.. can the Devs add a quick "Patch" to the Patch?  "Human Nature - If someone put a big red button in a remote mountain cave with a sign on it 'End of the world button!! Do not push!!.. the paint wouldn't have a chance to dry." |

Worlocke
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Posted - 2003.09.17 00:50:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: BlackVenom on 16/09/2003 22:31:54 I dont get why asking what u pay for is whining. Not all people have as much money as u! What i do want is the auto pilote fixed god i needed to jump 15 jumps so i thouth hell iam not going to wait here behind my pc to watch 15 jumps so i did autopilote and watched something on tv, so i return 1 hour later... 15 jumps to go! WENT OFF AGAIN.. I dont care if u all find me a cry baby i just want to get what i pay for.
ROFLMAO
You are kidding right? Not as much money as me? roflmao IT IS ONLY 13 DOLLARS, that is less than 2 cents per hour!
You are pathetic. "No beast so fierce knows but some touch of pity. But I know none and therefore am no beast." |

redOctober
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Posted - 2003.09.17 02:09:00 -
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Edited by: redOctober on 17/09/2003 02:15:40 Allways look on the bright side of life that should have been added to the play list of the jukebox ,maybe next patch?
hmm are ccp stuck in a black hole or somthing time tunnel say 1 thing and actually doesnt happen for a month or two later ill point out 1 point sentry guns deployable these was mentioned two months ago in patch notes ok i understand you needed certain skills to aquire deploy use hmm i dont know what to think after reading over at the test patch forum past weeks then reading patch notes are we all playing the same game ? im definatly
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BlackVenom
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Posted - 2003.09.17 06:49:00 -
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Edited by: BlackVenom on 17/09/2003 06:50:06 Iam maby pethatic but i dont swear against people or hurt em. I respect everyones opinion and i know i could move to another region for mining but i want to stay for once where i am, u all can understand that i hope. This is my opinion nothing more. And yes 13 dollars IS alote for some people!
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Ertai Vodalion
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Posted - 2003.09.17 10:52:00 -
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will the "win game" and "set all skills to level 5" buttons be implemented this patch or will it take till the next one ?
I hope at least they managed to put the "add 999 million ISK to my Wallet" button.
best regards
Ertai Vodalion
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Koda
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Posted - 2003.09.17 14:31:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Koda on 16/09/2003 21:28:25 Tis a good day for the Caldari nation. Missles won't cost so damn much to make and take up so much room in the cargo hold.
Leaves more room for goodies.
Oh and my 425's will now track faster and do more damage. Me likey.
But they don't track as well or do as much dmg as a tachyon.
Haven't used beams much as 250's hit my cap pretty hard. And I've never seen tachyons before. Pirate loot drops maybe?
I'm new to roaming in 0.0 and still tinkering with my loadout. --------------
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