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Alexander Cachapero
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.17 06:23:00 -
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Thanks alot for the adivce all, im working on the set of basic skills that were outlined to me now. Hope i can learn this game fairly fast! |
Anize Oramara
S T R A T C O M
Critical-Mass
144
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Posted - 2014.02.17 12:27:00 -
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Do not fit your mission boat with more than 500mill in modules. there is no need for it and that is asking for someone to gank you. spend the isk on your pod and jumpclone pods so you have pvp pods.
this game is about one thing and one thing only. blowing up spaceships, yours included. do not ever forget that. |
Orlacc
610
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Posted - 2014.02.17 23:52:00 -
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Go towards a Maelstrom first and learn to fly that before a Mach.
"Measure Twice, Cut Once." |
Alexander Cachapero
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.18 04:39:00 -
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Can someone explain to me how jump clones work? And thx for the 500mil warning..........was flying around in a 1.3bil vigilant for a while and didnt think it was a bad idea.....(cuz you know.....noob thinks highsec is safe) |
Victoria Thorne
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2014.02.18 05:12:00 -
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500 million would be reasonable for a missioning battleship with 50K+ EHP. I personally wouldn't go over 100 million on a Vigilant. (And for most things, I would probably end up going much lower than that, but I'm personally not fond of blinging out a ship unless I have a very good reason to do so - I do have a semi-blingy Legion fit I'm fond of, but it's a pvp setup, and I keep spares - I consider it lost when I fly it, when I don't lose it, that's a plus.)
Jump clones let you move yourself instantly to a station where you have a jump clone. The same functionality allows you to switch out implants. (You jump from an implanted clone into one without when planning on a dangerous activity, or switch to a clone with implants set up for a specific ship, or fit. I have a Mach clone & a Legion clone, for instance.)
You have to have high (8.0, if memory serves) standings with a corp with medical centers in their stations. You can clone jump once every 24 hours, and there is now a skill which decreases that cooldown. You can keep one clone per level of the infomorph psychology skill.
Oh, and be careful, as there are things called locator agents. (Which allow you to locate a character's location in the game.) Mentioning that you are flying a 1.3 billion Vigilant is a good way to attract some attention, and not necessarily the kind of attention you would enjoy. |
Alexander Cachapero
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:25:00 -
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So ive been training up abit and practicing on normal ships, I decided to take my nice ship out today and WOW.......everything in level two missions dies in one hit.......huge improvement |
Goldensaver
Lom Corporation
Brothers of Tangra
368
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Posted - 2014.02.19 09:35:00 -
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Alexander Cachapero wrote:So ive been training up abit and practicing on normal ships, I decided to take my nice ship out today and WOW.......everything in level two missions dies in one hit.......huge improvement
Aren't skills the greatest?
You won't see quite the same improvements over time as you'll see initially here, but you'll still find that skilling up still brings some nice benefits.
Just keep at it, get your cores, and most importantly, fly cheap at first. Keep this up and you'll hopefully be something people won't call a scrub in no time. |
Bea Love
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.02.19 10:51:00 -
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Alexander Cachapero wrote:Thanks alot for the adivce all, im working on the set of basic skills that were outlined to me now. Hope i can learn this game fairly fast!
Well you can check out the RvB Community - Here you can easily learn small scale PvP and the mechanics of gates, stations etc. And every Saturday Mangala Solaris leads the "Ganked" public roam to 0.0 space - where we engage other groups and larger fleets. In my opinion small gang PvP is much more efficient for learning PvP then trying it solo. RvB is a newbe friendly alliance and you will get some helping hand for your first steps. Also we have prefit ships on cheap contracts for the members. Believe me or not - ive learned more on manually piloting and PvP micromanagement in here then in the large CFC 0.0 Battles.
oh... and we are based near Jita in Highsec - so you can easily join :)
Have fun.
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Chimay
Release The Kraken Architecture
11
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:26:00 -
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Alexander Cachapero wrote:I just started playing EVE a little over a week ago and have been training a bit to get into a nice big battleship and ORE ship....I think I will find both fun to fly and on that note I was looking at a Machariel as a battleship and the Retriever as a mining. I want the battleship to be able to fight other players well so I will be able to just go on my merry way if someone decides to attack me because im flying a fancy ship and on that note I would like the mining ship to be able to not die horribly if suicide ganked (its never leaving hi-sec) Reccomendations? I have about two weeks left to have "enough" skill to fly the mach in missions......
Once upon a time,
I started playing eve. I was up to level 3 missions, I wasn't very old at the time. I was tired of doing the same old thing and wanted to go to level 4's where I though the real money is! Thus I purchase a Raven and fitted heavy's because that's all I had the skills for. Lost it shortly after because I lacked the tanking skills and DPS to effectively fly the thing.
Not learning my lesson I bought two more, lost it again, last one I lost in lowsec because I didn't have the skills to fly the ship.
If I could do it over again this is what I would do.
Get the current frigate load out to T2
Cap support skills. Moving forward you now have the ground work laid to be in a good postion in any ship you fly.
Navision, Engineering, Shield, Tank, Weapon support skills, all looking good!
You can now skill in another ship and have the skills needed.
Wouldn't take it past Battle Cruiser for now. Play catch up first. You'll thank yourself later.
Or you can suck at everything you fly and loose Ships left and right like I did till you learn. It's really worth the time investment, trust me! |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1875
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Posted - 2014.02.19 22:40:00 -
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Alexander Cachapero wrote:"enough" skill to fly the mach in missions......
Wow. You're gonna lose that expensive toy in glorious fashion!!
Good on ya!!!!
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Eaphod
Divided Unity
The Night Crew Alliance
41
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Posted - 2014.02.19 22:48:00 -
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Alexander Cachapero wrote:I have a 6 billion budget for the BS and 500 mill for the miner
Three week old toon that has a 6 billion ISK budget for a Mach? It sounds like you think you can buy your way to success in EVE.
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Alexander Cachapero
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.19 23:09:00 -
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Thanks for all the helpful and constuctive replys everyone! Cleared up alot of questions and misconceptions that I had about this game........and no doubt save me some major rage by fail flying something that is way too big for me to use yet  |
Dato Koppla
PillowFighters Inc
Stealth Wear Inc.
494
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Posted - 2014.02.20 01:39:00 -
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Alexander Cachapero wrote:Thanks for all the helpful and constuctive replys everyone! Cleared up alot of questions and misconceptions that I had about this game........and no doubt save me some major rage by fail flying something that is way too big for me to use yet
Yeah you should stick to cheaper ships while you learn, I actually just gave some advice to a new guy in a similar position as you who wanted to use a Mach to run L4s while he was quite new, I convinced him to fly a Maelstrom instead and he lost the Mael on the second mission he run, which would have been his Mach. There's nothing wrong with using expensive ships but you should know what you're doing first. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
6299
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Posted - 2014.02.20 22:13:00 -
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One time bump to fix forum. |
Alexander Cachapero
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.25 03:50:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:One time bump to fix forum.
What does this mean? |
Alexander Cachapero
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.25 03:54:00 -
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Out of wonder is the mach still a good ship? It seems that the price has gone down quite abit from last year.......is this because its not as good as it once was? |
Victoria Thorne
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2014.02.25 04:00:00 -
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To your first question, the forum had some issues a few days ago. Someone went in and gave all the threads which had recently been replied too a bump to make them visible again.
To your second, the price dropped when Marauders were rebalanced. It's still the same ship its always been. (A fair number of people switched to the Vargur.) The Mach is extremely good for mission blitzing & overall awesomeness. The Vargur is a good alternative though. |
Alexander Cachapero
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.25 04:13:00 -
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So.......its not because it was nerfed or anything? So it is just because there are now other ships that can compare to it for mission running? Im asking cuz I dont want to buy something that is still fairly expensive if there is something more suited for what i have in mind(small gang work and L4s) Thanks for the explaination on the bump btw. |
Victoria Thorne
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2014.02.25 04:18:00 -
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That is correct. It has not been nerfed. All of the pirate faction BS's have had a drop in price, as Marauders went from being largely novelty ships into being worth using for mission running.
At some point, there will a rebalance of the Pirate Battleships, but I haven't heard when, or what the specifics will be. They'll still be strong, I'm sure. |
Alexander Cachapero
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.25 04:22:00 -
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Ah, well thanks for calming my fears lol! I personaly love the mach for its looks and awsome speed and power and would be very sad to see it (or any of the pirate ships on that note) fall from their place of "glory" cuz it is after all kinda hard to get them in the first place. |
Victoria Thorne
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2014.02.25 04:28:00 -
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It's an awesome ship. Just make sure that you're skilled for it before you use it. It's strong & fast, but you should know what you're doing before trying to use it. Use a Maelstrom or Tempest first... Once you can do level 4's in a Mael without issues, the Mach will make them a breeze. |
Alexander Cachapero
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.25 04:40:00 -
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I'm honestly partial to the tempest myself, looks sleek and I like the "nest" of guns it has. I currently have one waiting for my skills to be good enough next to my other ships......guess I should park a Mach next to it too huh? |
Victoria Thorne
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2014.02.25 04:44:00 -
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Personally, I'd wait until you're ready to fly it. (Or at least get it home safely - fit it with T2, not faction if you are going to buy one and move it somewhere with low skills...)
No real harm in buying one & parking it, if you have billions available. They are really nice to look at. |
Alexander Cachapero
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.25 04:55:00 -
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My home is only two jumps from the place I plan to buy one so I "think" I can get it to my my main hanger safely.....or is it not worth the risk you think? I would be flying its modules over one by one to minimize risk of loss. (Same thing I did for my vigilant) |
Victoria Thorne
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2014.02.25 05:01:00 -
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It's unlikely that anything would happen, just properly tank it (T2 or Meta 4). (No faction, officer or deadspace stuff on it either - that would make it worth killing.)
Once you are skilled up for it, then you can bling it out a bit. You'll want Republic Fleet Gyro's & AB (if you go with an AB over a microwarp drive) to start. The Mach doesn't really need much expensive stuff beyond that - it's quite powerful. |
Alexander Cachapero
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.25 05:05:00 -
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So just run a nice set of meta 4 if I'm comfortable with taking it for a ride so that noone gets any "interesting" ideas? |
Victoria Thorne
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2014.02.25 05:12:00 -
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Yes. And make sure you know how to fit it properly before doing so. (For a 800 million ISK ship, it's best to look into fittings before you take it out for a spin.) |
Alexander Cachapero
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.25 05:53:00 -
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Will do, thanks for the help and advice! O how do you give a person a like or something for being helpful? I'm not familiar with the process on this site.... |
Victoria Thorne
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2014.02.25 06:02:00 -
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You're welcome. There is a like button on the upper right side of each posting. |
Gnadolin
Space Pioneers
23
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Posted - 2014.02.25 17:52:00 -
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Am I the only one wondering what i did wrong when reading that a 3weeks old toon has 6bil budget?
Seriously... how?! |
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