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Gunther Hoosler	Posted - 2006.04.20 14:33:00 - [91] Could we get 7 removed please? I know there have been countless flames (and probably more to ensue) about the removel of this 'warzone' but, BoB are posing no threat to the locals of Aridia at this time. The hollow threat from SirMolle is now but a distant memory, but one that still makes me chuckle. had me going for a second or two __________________________________________________ Gunther Hoosler Shiva Director
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.04.20 15:31:00 - [92] Originally by: Gunther Hoosler Could we get 7 removed please? I know there have been countless flames (and probably more to ensue) about the removel of this 'warzone' but, BoB are posing no threat to the locals of Aridia at this time. The hollow threat from SirMolle is now but a distant memory, but one that still makes me chuckle. had me going for a second or two Josh, Just check the BoB killboard. Our killing of aridia locals continues even more now than at anytime previously. In fact, we've killed about 30 VC up there since the beginning of this month alone, without everyone else we have been killing there. The warzone is a warning to new players about our killing in the area and should be left there for this reason. Thanks, dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Gunther Hoosler	Posted - 2006.04.20 16:11:00 - [93] Edited by: Gunther Hoosler on 20/04/2006 16:13:25 Originally by: DB Preacher Josh, Just check the BoB killboard. Our killing of aridia locals continues even more now than at anytime previously. In fact, we've killed about 30 VC up there since the beginning of this month alone, without everyone else we have been killing there. The warzone is a warning to new players about our killing in the area and should be left there for this reason. Thanks, dbp do you guys ever read your posts before you submit or do you just 'use the force' and hope it makes sense? If you're in Aridia, bring it. As you're not, then i expect you to be doing whatever else it is you guys actually do. If anything, i'd say it was "Huff vs Aridia Locals". All this BoB fanboi mallarkey is ridiculous and it puts this "Impartial EvE Map" into total disrepute. BoB don't own EvE and never will, and no amount of forum posting will change that fact. It's just useless propaganda designed to fool the newer players so don't give me all the 'Warning to new players' twoddle I stand by my request, not that Josh 'I love BoB' Foiritain would go against y'all. __________________________________________________ Gunther Hoosler Shiva Director
Kyoko Sakoda	Posted - 2006.04.20 16:16:00 - [94] Originally by: Gunther Hoosler I stand by my request, not that Josh 'I love BoB' Foiritain would go against y'all. This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard all month. Must be the 4/20. As far as I can tell, BoB is, in fact, still making a warzone out of Aridia. I don't speak just from what I see on the killboard; I have sources. Learn what it means to be Caldari - www.omertasyndicate.com
Remedial	Posted - 2006.04.20 16:17:00 - [95] Galactic Aurora have expelled ODN, the chief ally of NBSI/SUPR/BRS, and have emailed me saying that they make no further claim to Lower Syndicate.
Edoo	Posted - 2006.04.20 16:18:00 - [96] I think aridia is safer than low sec elsewhere tbh lol
Gunther Hoosler	Posted - 2006.04.20 16:25:00 - [97] Edited by: Gunther Hoosler on 20/04/2006 16:25:46 Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard all month. Must be the 4/20. As far as I can tell, BoB is, in fact, still making a warzone out of Aridia. I don't speak just from what I see on the killboard; I have sources. Then, I'm afraid, your sources are farcical Come to Aridia and see for yourself is my suggestion. Second-hand info only helps the BoB propaganda machine __________________________________________________ Gunther Hoosler Shiva Director
riggsbie	Posted - 2006.04.20 16:30:00 - [98] Edited by: riggsbie on 20/04/2006 16:36:10 Edited by: riggsbie on 20/04/2006 16:33:38 Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda Originally by: Gunther Hoosler I stand by my request, not that Josh 'I love BoB' Foiritain would go against y'all. This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard all month. Must be the 4/20. As far as I can tell, BoB is, in fact, still making a warzone out of Aridia. I don't speak just from what I see on the killboard; I have sources. your sauce is all wrong - don't remember seeing you in Aridia recently? Suggest you get your tongue out of BoB's arse and come take a look.
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.04.20 17:03:00 - [99] Please mark Branch as D2 territory. All stations belong to us, no resitance met, since ERA retreated from the area. We also have full Sov in all relevant systems. --------------------------------
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.04.20 17:06:00 - [100] huh? Not really sure why this is under discussion especially considering this is the map thread and not a discussion thread. Are we or are we not killing in aridia on a daily basis? Yes. Are we "bringing" it against VC in aridia? I don't see VC mentioned anywhere on marker No. 7. It's simply a warning for people who think it will be safe to visit the area. It won't be. Not really sure why VC feel they have to argue about every single thing every single time there is a clean up in the map thread but keep blowing off steam and calling the mapmaker names if it makes you feel better. Thanks, dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.

Kyoko Sakoda	Posted - 2006.04.20 17:57:00 - [101] Originally by: riggsbie your sauce is all wrong - don't remember seeing you in Aridia recently? I do not have to be in Aridia to know what's going on down there. Certainly it's not impossible to have friends living in different regions telling you what's up? Anyway, like DB said, it's not really up for discussion. The name calling doesn't help. If it makes the anti-BoB evangelists feel better (sigh), Josh can replace #7 with a marker similar to #1 without BoB's name on it. Fact remains that it is a danger zone. Learn what it means to be Caldari - www.omertasyndicate.com
Mr SunTzu	Posted - 2006.04.20 18:03:00 - [102] Edited by: Mr SunTzu on 20/04/2006 18:04:15 Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda Fact remains that it is a danger zone. In this case u could set a marker in nearly every 0.0 region. A war marker should do exactly that, marking an area where a war is going on and not just some ganking. Nobody can honestly say that there is a real war going on in aridia so no need for a war marker, quite simple.
Gunther Hoosler	Posted - 2006.04.20 18:41:00 - [103] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 20/04/2006 17:14:50 huh? Not really sure why this is under discussion especially considering this is the map thread and not a discussion thread. Are we or are we not killing in aridia on a daily basis? Yes, we are killing on a daily basis, in fact, except our brief time in EC-P8R at the very start of the month, we have killed something in aridia every single day this month. Are we "bringing" it against VC in aridia? I don't see VC mentioned anywhere on marker No. 7. It's simply a warning for people who think it will be safe to visit the area. It won't be. Not really sure why VC feel they have to argue about every single thing every single time there is a clean up in the map thread but keep blowing off steam and calling the mapmaker names if it makes you feel better. In future, perhaps it would be best if you let someone with a cooler temperament like Coug make the VC map announcements. Thanks, dbp Apologies DB, you got me wrong. I spoke as an Aridian Local. However, in my defense, i never mentioned VC or you killing VC or anything about VC. This 'warzone' just seems a bit past it IMO As for calling the mapmaker names, i am not the only one to think that this map is ever-so slightly biased. However, i respect your comments and would now call for EVERY fringe-empire region to be classed as a warzone. Aridia is no different to any other low-sec region so i'm a little unsure as to why Aridia gets any special treatment __________________________________________________ Gunther Hoosler Shiva Director
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.04.20 19:10:00 - [104] It's a warzone because we, an official alliance, actively patrol and engage non-friendly targets in it. In the last 20 days we've destroyed 134 ships, including 47 battleships and lost a total of 39, including 4 battleships. That's a dangerzone. As we're a bit more "present" than pirates, a pirate infestation is not applicable. A warzone marker certainly is. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
Righteous Fury	Posted - 2006.04.20 19:26:00 - [105] Originally by: Gunther Hoosler As for calling the mapmaker names, i am not the only one to think that this map is ever-so slightly biased. Because remember children, when someone doesn't see things your way, its obviously bias. I think the Fountain region is taking its toll again.
Edoo	Posted - 2006.04.20 20:40:00 - [106] Originally by: Dianabolic It's a warzone because we, an official alliance, actively patrol and engage non-friendly targets in it. In the last 20 days we've destroyed 134 ships, including 47 battleships and lost a total of 39, including 4 battleships. That's a dangerzone. As we're a bit more "present" than pirates, a pirate infestation is not applicable. A warzone marker certainly is. Ok then if we are following this logic, for the sake of warning nubs lets make Amamake, Mara, and all the other systems where pirates kill way more than you every day a warzone.
Gypsy Djinn	Posted - 2006.04.20 20:50:00 - [107] c.D.c make no claim to any region or systems, nor do we contest any space with anyone, we go where we want when we want and certainly aren't tied down to a specfic region and/or systems. If the time ever comes when we decide to take space as our own we will make that claim in-game with our guns, not on a map in the forums V I R I I HeadQuarters http://virii.homeip.net V I R I I - We Are Here For Your Daughters
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:09:00 - [108] Originally by: Dianabolic It's a warzone because we, an official alliance, actively patrol and engage non-friendly targets in it. In the last 20 days we've destroyed 134 ships, including 47 battleships and lost a total of 39, including 4 battleships. That's a dangerzone. Sorry, have to disagree here, 134 destroyed ships in 20 days in a whole region is rly not much, diana.... --------------------------------
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:09:00 - [109] Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 20/04/2006 21:09:17 delete plz --------------------------------
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:21:00 - [110] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Dianabolic It's a warzone because we, an official alliance, actively patrol and engage non-friendly targets in it. In the last 20 days we've destroyed 134 ships, including 47 battleships and lost a total of 39, including 4 battleships. That's a dangerzone. Sorry, have to disagree here, 134 destroyed ships in 20 days in a whole region is rly not much, diana.... I agree Woodie, but what can you do? We patrol that region every single day, you can't kill ships that insta-dock / log / run off at every opportunity - and even then that's only if u get past the Huff camps in Vehan / udianoor. But hey, if u wanna just base that marker on ships destroyed you can do that, by removing the marker it'll probably give us more targets anyway, so tbh it'll probably benefit us anyway. /me shrugs. Crux of the matter is, we try to be as honest as possible in this thread, and in doing so we believe a warzone marker is appropriate (or other associated: Don't go here if ur not friendly with x, y or z). We also believe that the only reason anyone would try to change that status is to score cheap political points. It's all gravy. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither

Naytaliak	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:34:00 - [111] Edited by: Naytaliak on 20/04/2006 21:34:49 Originally by: AvanCade Edited by: AvanCade on 20/04/2006 02:23:26 Originally by: Smokemon update from Catch: FAT and all systems west including 4-07 are now under Huzzah control, Fix has withdrawn any remaining POS's (that we know of) into querious so it should no longer be contested. Querious/Catch should continue to have warzone markers. Querious as of right now is not contested yet (4-18-06). People fighting in Querious/Catch (as per my knowledge) HF/SA/SMASH/TSDS vs. Fix BoB is also around shooting everyone and their presence is often enough it should be noted. CHIMP / LV have paid visits to Catch but aren't around enough to be added to the warzone marker (IMO) but if you have questions on that you can contact Hans Roaming (HF) or someone from Shinra or CHIMP. -Smokemon, GSY, HF When we want to be noted we will post about it, till then go about your lil buisness. Sorry but you do not get to dictate what gets reported. If the map maker has any questions he knows where to ask. P.S. all the egotistical garbage in this thread is disgusting. Just report to the best of your ability and dont worry about it, gesh. EDIT: This is Smokemon, sorry for alt post.
Angry Dan	Posted - 2006.04.20 23:45:00 - [112] Originally by: AvanCade Edited by: AvanCade on 20/04/2006 02:23:26 Originally by: Smokemon update from Catch: FAT and all systems west including 4-07 are now under Huzzah control, Fix has withdrawn any remaining POS's (that we know of) into querious so it should no longer be contested. Querious/Catch should continue to have warzone markers. Querious as of right now is not contested yet (4-18-06). People fighting in Querious/Catch (as per my knowledge) HF/SA/SMASH/TSDS vs. Fix BoB is also around shooting everyone and their presence is often enough it should be noted. CHIMP / LV have paid visits to Catch but aren't around enough to be added to the warzone marker (IMO) but if you have questions on that you can contact Hans Roaming (HF) or someone from Shinra or CHIMP. -Smokemon, GSY, HF When we want to be noted we will post about it, till then go about your lil buisness. We have given a perfectly reasonable and balanced assesment of the situation. Should the situation change, a GSY director, a Bank of Huzzah director or myself will supply information relating to our space. Whether we are winning or losing, I promise it will be a fair and accurate assesment. ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
AvanCade	Posted - 2006.04.21 00:10:00 - [113] Edited by: AvanCade on 21/04/2006 00:10:00 Do you even read why i replied to the post your alliance chap made...he mentioned about marking bob as well with the named alliances shooting fix, and such i replied if we need to be noted we will make a point of it.
Baun	Posted - 2006.04.21 05:22:00 - [114] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Dianabolic It's a warzone because we, an official alliance, actively patrol and engage non-friendly targets in it. In the last 20 days we've destroyed 134 ships, including 47 battleships and lost a total of 39, including 4 battleships. That's a dangerzone. Sorry, have to disagree here, 134 destroyed ships in 20 days in a whole region is rly not much, diana.... I agree Woodie, but what can you do? We patrol that region every single day, you can't kill ships that insta-dock / log / run off at every opportunity - and even then that's only if u get past the Huff camps in Vehan / udianoor. But hey, if u wanna just base that marker on ships destroyed you can do that, by removing the marker it'll probably give us more targets anyway, so tbh it'll probably benefit us anyway. /me shrugs. Crux of the matter is, we try to be as honest as possible in this thread, and in doing so we believe a warzone marker is appropriate (or other associated: Don't go here if ur not friendly with x, y or z). We also believe that the only reason anyone would try to change that status is to score cheap political points. It's all gravy. I think that there are more reasons to consider it that to "score cheap political points". If the map maker goes to the region and thinks it really needs a war marker, fine but it shouldn't simply be left there if its been forgotten. (I really haven't seen the threads the Shiva member referenced concerning that war marker so perhaps my notion that is been forgotten is misguided). Even if this map is neccesarily political charged because it helps some people define who owns what, given that no one can own an empire region, that shouldn't really enter into the discussion. I think that the criticism is that the marker is primarily based on an announcement that was a fair bit in the past, is in empire and because the idea of having a war between an alliance and an amorphous group of "local residents" is just odd. I am sure that BoB has killed alot more people in areas where they have no war marker than they have in aridia and I am possitive that single corps like Snigg have slaughtered 10 times as many pilots in single empire systems. Yet, I think that few people would support placing war markers every place that an alliance has been fighting or in every empire hotspot. Its the probably the least active war marker and the only one in Empire. So I think people just want some assurance from Josh that he is confirming the existence of the war rather than forgetting to remove it. Feel free to flame away even though ive been completely fair ....... at this point one just has to expect it. The Enemy's Gate is Down
King Leonidas	Posted - 2006.04.21 06:38:00 - [115] I didn't realise Celestial Apoc were claiming space now King
riggsbie	Posted - 2006.04.21 08:39:00 - [116] Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda Originally by: riggsbie your sauce is all wrong - don't remember seeing you in Aridia recently? I do not have to be in Aridia to know what's going on down there. Certainly it's not impossible to have friends living in different regions telling you what's up? Anyway, like DB said, it's not really up for discussion. The name calling doesn't help. If it makes the anti-BoB evangelists feel better (sigh), Josh can replace #7 with a marker similar to #1 without BoB's name on it. Fact remains that it is a danger zone. Stick to commenting on a region you are actualy involved in rather than gobbing off about something you have 3rd hand information on. Comments from BoB, whilst inaccurate, are legitimate. (you see, BoB actualy come down to Aridia)
Jowen Datloran	Posted - 2006.04.21 09:34:00 - [117] Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 21/04/2006 09:40:34 Being a neutral reader of the map I must agree that the continues marking of BOB in Aridia does indeed smell of favourism big time. Just who are they fighting? Me, if I passes through? How is that different from any low sec ganking? And if it's ment as a warning for rookies, then why are many other and much more dangerous locations inside empire controlled space then not market? I bet more people get killed in Amamake in a week than in the whole of Aridia in a month. ---------------- Main as main can be.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.04.21 10:58:00 - [118] Originally by: Jowen Datloran Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 21/04/2006 09:40:34 Being a neutral reader of the map I must agree that the continues marking of BOB in Aridia does indeed smell of favourism big time. Just who are they fighting? Me, if I passes through? How is that different from any low sec ganking? And if it's ment as a warning for rookies, then why are many other and much more dangerous locations inside empire controlled space then not market? I bet more people get killed in Amamake in a week than in the whole of Aridia in a month. Hell mr science and trade institute. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
O Thief	Posted - 2006.04.21 11:34:00 - [119] Marginis Imports now claims all of Providence, please update your map accordingly http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=326919
MickeyFinn	Posted - 2006.04.21 11:44:00 - [120] Originally by: O Thief Marginis Imports now claims all of Providence, please update your map accordingly http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=326919 Eve Underground Radio - Flashback - Sundays @ 20.00 GMT



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