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D'onryu Shoqui
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Posted - 2006.04.13 11:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Admiral Pieg
What about the people who simply dont want to spend 15 bucks just for the pictures of the graphical overhaul? Why arent they included in some dev-blog or something?
think it was the main selling point of this issue 
guess you gotta pay to find out about the development of the game your playing around here. subscription to the game dont count for much 
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Jenna Fear
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Posted - 2006.04.13 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui
Originally by: Admiral Pieg
What about the people who simply dont want to spend 15 bucks just for the pictures of the graphical overhaul? Why arent they included in some dev-blog or something?
think it was the main selling point of this issue
guess you gotta pay to find out about the development of the game your playing around here. subscription to the game dont count for much
Exactly... Plus, I don't care to wait 62 years for the magazine to arrive.
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Minsc
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Posted - 2006.04.13 14:45:00 -
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That would kind of defeat the purpose of having the magazine in the first place now wouldn't it.
I'm sure they'll release pics in some form or another, If we're lucky we'll even get some video from E3 this year of the new graphics in action.
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D'onryu Shoqui
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Posted - 2006.04.13 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Minsc
That would kind of defeat the purpose of having the magazine in the first place now wouldn't it.
I'm sure they'll release pics in some form or another, If we're lucky we'll even get some video from E3 this year of the new graphics in action.
i thought it was suposed to be a magazine about whats been going on in the EVE universe.
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Minsc
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Posted - 2006.04.13 15:39:00 -
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They are, the graphics engine update is part of what's going on in the EVE universe, even if it is in an OOC context.
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D'onryu Shoqui
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Posted - 2006.04.13 15:43:00 -
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the graphicsx engine update is part of the devlopment of eve not whats going on inside the eve universe so there should have been atleast some kind of devblog about it rather than everything about it beeing in a magazine you have to buy.
whats next patch notes only for eon subscribers?
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2006.04.13 15:48:00 -
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Gonna read it now!
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Minsc
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Posted - 2006.04.13 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui
the graphicsx engine update is part of the devlopment of eve not whats going on inside the eve universe so there should have been atleast some kind of devblog about it rather than everything about it beeing in a magazine you have to buy.
whats next patch notes only for eon subscribers?
The trinity update is an upcoming feature in the game and is part of a mini-expansion as far as we can tell. I'm sure they will post some pictures up in a blog or screens at some point but EON subscribers just get an earlier look. It adds value to the magazine for subscribers so they can get thier money's worth.
As far as I'm concerned the the magazine is worth it for the dev interviews anc chronicles alone, everything else is gravy. If it is not worth it to you then all you have to do is wait till they release some images in another format.
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Soratah
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Posted - 2006.04.13 16:16:00 -
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Trinity will give us high polygon modules with new skins. The DX10 components which include HDR, and shadow mapping will be something that you'll have to get DX10 to use. Of course unless people release drivers for current graphics cards (those with redundant pipelines) can use.
It'll look snazzy, but not super-sexy snazzy.
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illm
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Posted - 2006.04.13 16:34:00 -
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Question:
How do you find your E-ON #3 in your bookshelf?
Answer:
It's the black/dark green spine, next to the blue and red one.
This post has a hint
Don't forget to use the area on the spine to mention things like, oh what magazine it is, and preferably what issue. 
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2006.04.13 16:44:00 -
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'Discorporation: Member of Evol since beta bla bla bla still hasn't undocked'
<3 E-on
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Lacero Callrisian
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Posted - 2006.04.13 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
IIRC it's mostly due to triangles being mathematically guaranteed to be planar -- you can always calculate a plane that goes through any 3 points in space, but for any polygon with more vertices this is no longer true... meaning such polygon can wind up being 'not flat' which can generate inconsistences with shading, bits of geometry disappearing at some angles because it's wrongly determined to be facing the other way... and other such niceties.
Kind of, I think it's more the fact that when you mix values from the corners of a triangle it's easy to work out what the mixture in the middle is, for example each vertex has a colour and so the centre is a mixture of the three colours in proportion to how far away they are. This always gives smooth shading.
If you do this with aquares you can end up with wierd artifacts like you say.
The other reason is that it's very easy to project a triangle onto a flat surface, and work out which pixels it covers. I guess you could argue that mathematically both of these reasons are true because the triangle is planar, but hopefully it helps people understand :)
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Phoenix Lord
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Posted - 2006.04.13 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Pieg
What about the people who simply dont want to spend 15 bucks just for the pictures of the graphical overhaul? Why arent they included in some dev-blog or something?
The EON 3 magazine is a nice insiders sort of thing. If you want the info, you have to buy EON 3 or wait until CCP goes to E3.
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2006.04.13 19:48:00 -
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I have one complaint.
There are a couple of ads in there where resolution of the supplied copy is clearly insufficient. There isn't really an excuse for printing crap resolution ad copy tbh. p61 and 65 are the real culprits.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.04.13 19:53:00 -
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Triangles: DX10 will directly support processing of triangles on a massive scale.
(Yes, that's software, not hardware ... and hardware supporting DX10 isn't available atm. Earliest test boards will be available to devs in maybe 5-10 weeks if my guesstimation is correct. The specs for DX10 have just been finalized.)
I just hope my copy wont arrive on saturday as I wont be at home for the long weekend. Would be a pitty having to hunt it down at the post offices in the area.
The first two issues had very nice stories and some nice interviews along with some pretty but useless parts..
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Kylania
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Posted - 2006.04.13 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Pieg
What about the people who simply dont want to spend 15 bucks just for the pictures of the graphical overhaul? Why arent they included in some dev-blog or something?
Well, you can support the game you play and enjoy great new information in a well produced magazine, or you can complain about it. I signed up for a year, seems you've made your choice too. 
EON is, as the kids say, "omg so worth it, yo!"
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2006.04.13 23:57:00 -
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In New Zealand, haven't got anything yet *cry*
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.04.14 01:42:00 -
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Serves ya right for being down under!
Got mine today.
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Honneamise
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Posted - 2006.04.14 07:38:00 -
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nothing in north Italy at the moment
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M3ta7h3ad
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Posted - 2006.04.14 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenix Lord
Originally by: Admiral Pieg
What about the people who simply dont want to spend 15 bucks just for the pictures of the graphical overhaul? Why arent they included in some dev-blog or something?
The EON 3 magazine is a nice insiders sort of thing. If you want the info, you have to buy EON 3 or wait until CCP goes to E3.
"insiders sort of thing" When the magazine was first brought up it was said that the info would be freely available on the website. Yet I've seen posts where Nyphur has been denied rights to posting his own article on here by none other than a Dev (Zapetero).
I personally think that zap's continuous spamming of "buy eon" or just little links to the EON shop page is damn annoying in reply to someones question. Its worse than that of course however as I've seen posts by kieron and Tuxford (pretty sure it was Tux..) saying the same "buy eon".
THE INFORMATION WAS MEANT TO BE FREELY AVAILABLE ON THIS WEBSITE. so stop spamming links to a damn expensive magazine if we could/wanted to buy it... we would of already.
Lots of people simply want the odd article in there, they dont want access to the competitions just the odd article. EVERY other magazine known to myself gaming or computing or otherwise, posts its articles a week later on the net for free. Granted the free articles may not include pretty pretty pictures, or you wont have rights to enter the competitions and prize draws. But its still done.
Heck... even if we had to pay for a PDF version of the magazine, I'd do it. Granted I'd expect a discount as no postage is needed and no paper or ink is used but I'd gladly pay a subscription for access to it in an electronic format.
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Kaaii
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Posted - 2006.04.14 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: M3ta7h3ad
Originally by: Phoenix Lord
Originally by: Admiral Pieg
What about the people who simply dont want to spend 15 bucks just for the pictures of the graphical overhaul? Why arent they included in some dev-blog or something?
The EON 3 magazine is a nice insiders sort of thing. If you want the info, you have to buy EON 3 or wait until CCP goes to E3.
THE INFORMATION WAS MEANT TO BE FREELY AVAILABLE ON THIS WEBSITE. so stop spamming links to a damn expensive magazine if we could/wanted to buy it... we would of already.
The articles are contributed by other players, interviews with CCP, and fan submissions.
Who are you to say what these people (re: ME ) meant...
If you don't want to pay for this great resource, fine.
You are free to write, develop, solicite, print, ship and listen to the complainers that didn't get the mag the way "they would do it" too...
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Zap, I got mine, thank you...
Kaaii
"..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, than stand with One thousand sheep.."
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2006.04.14 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kaaii
Originally by: M3ta7h3ad
Originally by: Phoenix Lord
Originally by: Admiral Pieg
What about the people who simply dont want to spend 15 bucks just for the pictures of the graphical overhaul? Why arent they included in some dev-blog or something?
The EON 3 magazine is a nice insiders sort of thing. If you want the info, you have to buy EON 3 or wait until CCP goes to E3.
THE INFORMATION WAS MEANT TO BE FREELY AVAILABLE ON THIS WEBSITE. so stop spamming links to a damn expensive magazine if we could/wanted to buy it... we would of already.
The articles are contributed by other players, interviews with CCP, and fan submissions.
Who are you to say what these people (re: ME ) meant...
If you don't want to pay for this great resource, fine.
You are free to write, develop, solicite, print, ship and listen to the complainers that didn't get the mag the way "they would do it" too...
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Zap, I got mine, thank you...
Kaaii
I couldnt care less about the interviews and articles and all that crap, i just want to see pictures of the new engine. I am entitled to that much thank you.
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Phoenix Lord
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Posted - 2006.04.14 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Pieg
Originally by: Kaaii
Originally by: M3ta7h3ad
Originally by: Phoenix Lord
Originally by: Admiral Pieg
What about the people who simply dont want to spend 15 bucks just for the pictures of the graphical overhaul? Why arent they included in some dev-blog or something?
The EON 3 magazine is a nice insiders sort of thing. If you want the info, you have to buy EON 3 or wait until CCP goes to E3.
THE INFORMATION WAS MEANT TO BE FREELY AVAILABLE ON THIS WEBSITE. so stop spamming links to a damn expensive magazine if we could/wanted to buy it... we would of already.
The articles are contributed by other players, interviews with CCP, and fan submissions.
Who are you to say what these people (re: ME ) meant...
If you don't want to pay for this great resource, fine.
You are free to write, develop, solicite, print, ship and listen to the complainers that didn't get the mag the way "they would do it" too...
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Zap, I got mine, thank you...
Kaaii
I couldnt care less about the interviews and articles and all that crap, i just want to see pictures of the new engine. I am entitled to that much thank you.
You are entitled to whatever the devs think you are entitled to. If you want the info, either WAIT or buy EON3.
EON 3 is so people who want to support CCP more get the info first. The info will eventually become public (at E3).
So either shut up and wait or get the EON 3 magazine.
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Hakera
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Posted - 2006.04.14 16:39:00 -
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Edited by: Hakera on 14/04/2006 16:39:27
Originally by: Admiral Pieg
I couldnt care less about the interviews and articles and all that crap, i just want to see pictures of the new engine. I am entitled to that much thank you.
Your entitled to zero other than the ability to access the game servers and post on the forums.
We have paid extra to get the collectable magazine & all content therin.
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Soratah
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Posted - 2006.04.14 17:32:00 -
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What are the chances of CCP compiling EON into a .PDF format file and allowing people to purchase directly from this site?
Just think it could save shipping costs and save on some of the printing costs for CCP.
Regards
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Phoenix Lord
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Posted - 2006.04.14 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Soratah
What are the chances of CCP compiling EON into a .PDF format file and allowing people to purchase directly from this site?
Just think it could save shipping costs and save on some of the printing costs for CCP.
Regards
This was discussed in the other thread that announced EON 3.
They said that it wouldnt happen. Mainly because the whole point of EON 3 is to have a real life part of EVE online, and it would kill sales for the real thing and hurt the publisher or something like that.
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Mastoras
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Posted - 2006.04.14 17:48:00 -
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Woot just got it! Live in Michigan USA, so if your US, expect it soon. Its great mag, high quality!
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M3ta7h3ad
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Posted - 2006.04.14 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kaaii
Originally by: M3ta7h3ad
Originally by: Phoenix Lord
Originally by: Admiral Pieg
What about the people who simply dont want to spend 15 bucks just for the pictures of the graphical overhaul? Why arent they included in some dev-blog or something?
The EON 3 magazine is a nice insiders sort of thing. If you want the info, you have to buy EON 3 or wait until CCP goes to E3.
THE INFORMATION WAS MEANT TO BE FREELY AVAILABLE ON THIS WEBSITE. so stop spamming links to a damn expensive magazine if we could/wanted to buy it... we would of already.
The articles are contributed by other players, interviews with CCP, and fan submissions.
Who are you to say what these people (re: ME ) meant...
If you don't want to pay for this great resource, fine.
You are free to write, develop, solicite, print, ship and listen to the complainers that didn't get the mag the way "they would do it" too...
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Zap, I got mine, thank you...
Kaaii
Devs stated that the information contained within the magazine would be released on this website in the form of devblogs/forum entries. This hasnt happened. What has happened is the Devs are now spamming links to the magazine instead of giving us the information and answers they promised previously.
That gives me the right to say what you meant. k...thx...& bai.
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Eve & Linux Woot! |
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Zapatero
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Posted - 2006.04.14 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: M3ta7h3ad
Originally by: Phoenix Lord
Originally by: Soratah
What are the chances of CCP compiling EON into a .PDF format file and allowing people to purchase directly from this site?
Just think it could save shipping costs and save on some of the printing costs for CCP.
Regards
This was discussed in the other thread that announced EON 3.
They said that it wouldnt happen. Mainly because the whole point of EON 3 is to have a real life part of EVE online, and it would kill sales for the real thing and hurt the publisher or something like that.
No... it was discussed your right on that point, but everything that follows after that is wrong.
Zapetero does not want to publish the EON magazine online in a paid for downloadable PDF format as he feels that it would diminish EONs ranking as a collectible item.
FFS... its a gaming magazine. Since when have gaming magazines been "collectables" Beano's yes... Dandy's yes... Marvel Comics... yes. A game specific gaming magazine... Just dont see it happening.
Sales would go up if this was offered. It just doesnt make sense using "collectable" status as a defence.
Actually I have a wall racked with countless gaming mags; every issue of Arcade, Retro Gamer, Games(tm), countless issues of PC Format, Edge, Crash, The One, Sinclair User, Zero, PC Zone (obviously), OPM, ODM.... but this isn't about collectability, it's about EON being a *magazine*. It's a physical thing. It has a feel, a smell, it is something we as physical beings can relate to -- It has permanance, yet it has a place in time. EON will most likely outlive EVE itself: One day EVE will be no more, these forums will have vanished - maybe the Internet itself will have gone - and EVE will only exist in your memory, which itself will fail in time.
You'll be rocking on your porch, dribbling onto the blanket that covers your withered stumps, muttering something about how you used to have this incredible ship that arced across the heavens... how everyone respected you. 'grandad's freaking out again' will say your grandchildren, barely conceiling their laughter.
Now if you only you had that copy of EON. Then they'd understand...
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Phoenix Lord
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Posted - 2006.04.14 21:11:00 -
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WOOOOHOOOOO!!!
JUST RECIEVED MY EON 3 MAGAZINE!
I might be the first person in US to recieve it. O_o
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