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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2006.04.12 15:25:00 -
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Edited by: Kaleeb on 12/04/2006 15:27:52 So recently I left my old corp GUC and moved back home to the Lonetrek area and after a few weeks back there i`m ashamed of the pirates inhabitating the area that was once our stomping grounds.
I`ve travelled around a few regions Genesis, Molden Heath, Lonetrek, Citadel, Aridia etc etc and all I can say is where have the good pirates gone?
(Angel Deep, ATUF and HUFF not included in this)
For example I just asked a few pirates for a fight since we were camping them in the station. There were 5-6 of them in system (not afk) with at least 3 battleships, cerb and I were each in bs's (no EW). So I challenged them to fight at a planet and all I got was i`ll 1vs1 u to hull 
I guess what i`m trying to say is -10 used to mean something now it seems most people just either stab up or snipe 
The new generation of pirates need to step up and fill the old pirates boots
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Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2006.04.12 15:48:00 -
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Edited by: Berak FalCheran on 12/04/2006 15:51:50 There's still good ones left... Not egotistical enough to suggest that I'm one of them, but I point to my corp mates proudly.
Edit: and yeah, last time I saw low-sec Genesis/Aridia it made me sad. It's more empty then full of bad-pirates... but still fills my heart with sadness. And to see people mining in Gonditsa :( :(
In short: Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
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Slink Grinsdikild
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Posted - 2006.04.12 15:52:00 -
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Its not easy being green. I can't help being new, honest. 
If someone old, leet and -10.0 were to challenge me to a duel i'd start making excuses too. ^^
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2006.04.12 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Berak FalCheran
There's still good ones left... Not egotistical enough to suggest that I'm one of them, but I point to my corp mates proudly.
Forgot about my Gallente biatch Verone sorry mate!
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dailyhazard
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Posted - 2006.04.12 16:02:00 -
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Tbh i agree, i found that also only gank and when jumped by a ship of the same type fitted for pvp as they are, they run with stabs(OMG), pretty pathetic really, i know that being a pirate is abou making profit and losing a ship isnt, but they have a chance of killing your ship and making profit of your loot. Although kaleeb im guessing your talking about system lords, who really do suck... ________________________________
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2006.04.12 16:25:00 -
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I'm still around and still on the chain a few times a week.
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Mangold
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Posted - 2006.04.12 16:45:00 -
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There are still a few good pirates out there.
S******dly and Veto would be the ones that stand out.
The "omgletsgankatthegatewith10+BS"-pirates aren't that impressive.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.04.12 16:53:00 -
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Welcome to stabville
Die, die, die. |

dailyhazard
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Posted - 2006.04.12 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC Welcome to stabville
i love you ________________________________
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2006.04.12 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleeb Edited by: Kaleeb on 12/04/2006 15:27:52 So recently I left my old corp GUC and moved back home to the Lonetrek area and after a few weeks back there i`m ashamed of the pirates inhabitating the area that was once our stomping grounds.
I`ve travelled around a few regions Genesis, Molden Heath, Lonetrek, Citadel, Aridia etc etc and all I can say is where have the good pirates gone?
(Angel Deep, ATUF and HUFF not included in this)
For example I just asked a few pirates for a fight since we were camping them in the station. There were 5-6 of them in system (not afk) with at least 3 battleships, cerb and I were each in bs's (no EW). So I challenged them to fight at a planet and all I got was i`ll 1vs1 u to hull 
I guess what i`m trying to say is -10 used to mean something now it seems most people just either stab up or snipe 
The new generation of pirates need to step up and fill the old pirates boots
You came to Molden heath and you never visited it us?
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CEO of teh Jenny Spitfire Fanclub. Wanna Join? Convo meh IG. |

Zysco
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Posted - 2006.04.12 17:42:00 -
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Edited by: Zysco on 12/04/2006 17:44:27
Originally by: dailyhazard Tbh i agree, i found that also only gank and when jumped by a ship of the same type fitted for pvp as they are, they run with stabs(OMG), pretty pathetic really, i know that being a pirate is abou making profit and losing a ship isnt, but they have a chance of killing your ship and making profit of your loot. Although kaleeb im guessing your talking about system lords, who really do suck...
How about those "pirates" we ran into the other day daily?
Was like 20 of them at a gate, like 11-12 bs and a buncha cruisers, i watched them all gank some poor guy in a BS, then we jump in with 10 people and they all ran to a safespot and said "we are outlaws we wont fight at gates."
What happened next is in the new petition inc vid due out later today!
Shameless self promotion 4tw.
Originally by: Ginger Magician
I have the fingerspeed of a teenager the brains of a rocket scientist and the tactical nous of a 5 star general. Why do u think I'm so freaking good?
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Bentguru
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Posted - 2006.04.12 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Zysco Edited by: Zysco on 12/04/2006 17:44:27
Originally by: dailyhazard Tbh i agree, i found that also only gank and when jumped by a ship of the same type fitted for pvp as they are, they run with stabs(OMG), pretty pathetic really, i know that being a pirate is abou making profit and losing a ship isnt, but they have a chance of killing your ship and making profit of your loot. Although kaleeb im guessing your talking about system lords, who really do suck...
How about those "pirates" we ran into the other day daily?
Was like 20 of them at a gate, like 11-12 bs and a buncha cruisers, i watched them all gank some poor guy in a BS, then we jump in with 10 people and they all ran to a safespot and said "we are outlaws we wont fight at gates."
What happened next is in the new petition inc vid due out later today!
Shameless self promotion 4tw.
great drunk, thanks, no pressure on me at all.  I don't have a sig :( |

Lady Ariness
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Posted - 2006.04.12 18:05:00 -
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When I go out hunting other pirates (as I frequently do) I usually end up either being ganked or them running with stabs. Unless they have a 100% chance of winning, or have stabs, they will never engage. Even 2v1.
But I guess that's what piracy is thesedays: Killing others and getting away. It sucks.
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.04.12 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Ariness When I go out hunting other pirates (as I frequently do) I usually end up either being ganked or them running with stabs. Unless they have a 100% chance of winning, or have stabs, they will never engage. Even 2v1.
But I guess that's what piracy is thesedays: Killing others and getting away. It sucks.
wow thats like identical to this post i just made right after you without seeing yours lol. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=322574&page=2#31
Originally by: Ginger Magician
I have the fingerspeed of a teenager the brains of a rocket scientist and the tactical nous of a 5 star general. Why do u think I'm so freaking good?
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2006.04.12 18:43:00 -
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No point asking on here, only forum warriors and fanboys.
There, i just contributed nothing to your thread |

Shafty
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Posted - 2006.04.12 18:46:00 -
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Brings a tear to the eye tbh, time for some lowsec mining seeing as its safe now 
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Fuglife
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Posted - 2006.04.12 18:50:00 -
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Im still alive and kicking 
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Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2006.04.12 19:19:00 -
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Long time long seen Kaleeb
Feel free to drop by Heimatar if you want a fight
Killing the Minmatars since 22480 AD |

Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2006.04.12 19:22:00 -
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Edited by: Slaveabuser on 12/04/2006 19:23:08
Originally by: Lady Ariness When I go out hunting other pirates (as I frequently do) I usually end up either being ganked or them running with stabs. Unless they have a 100% chance of winning, or have stabs, they will never engage. Even 2v1.
But I guess that's what piracy is thesedays: Killing others and getting away. It sucks.
Ehhh. What a load or rubbish. Im a pirate and I DONT USE STABS.
However what you describe about not fighting unless a 100% chance of victory applies for EVERY GOD DAMN SINGLE ALLIANCE out there.
Im sure SNUGUDY use that tactics as well.
Killing the Minmatars since 22480 AD |

Magic Trev
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Posted - 2006.04.12 19:48:00 -
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Edited by: Magic Trev on 12/04/2006 19:51:02
Originally by: Slaveabuser Edited by: Slaveabuser on 12/04/2006 19:23:08
Originally by: Lady Ariness When I go out hunting other pirates (as I frequently do) I usually end up either being ganked or them running with stabs. Unless they have a 100% chance of winning, or have stabs, they will never engage. Even 2v1.
But I guess that's what piracy is thesedays: Killing others and getting away. It sucks.
Ehhh. What a load or rubbish. Im a pirate and I DONT USE STABS.
However what you describe about not fighting unless a 100% chance of victory applies for EVERY GOD DAMN SINGLE ALLIANCE out there.
Im sure SNUGUDY use that tactics as well.
what ariness said is actually true and if you read again he/she said "usually" which is the key word so dont hop onto the defensive bandwaggon staright away 
but i agree with everythnig said about the "new generation pirates" and to proove the point veto. even has its no stab corp policy in place... seeing so many 'pirates' warping off unable to finish the fights they start makes me sad.
as to Kaleeb i think you'll find us in bleak lands/ heimatar alot though we do enjoy our trips to amamake even if mangold does try to touch us   --------------------
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:09:00 -
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Oh and hello slave didnt realise you were pirating again 
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: mirel yirrin
You came to Molden heath and you never visited it us?

I`ve only ever seen your guys in frigs or tier I cruisers so not much point chasing them.
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Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:58:00 -
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Meh, I've spendt alot of time thinking about it. And theres no way Im going to be ANYTHING but the bad guy 

Killing the Minmatars since 22480 AD |

LordAmarus
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Posted - 2006.04.12 21:51:00 -
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euhm what i dislike the most bout player rats is the fact that nowadays they r cowards for 99%
i personally do some very noob pirating in lowsec systems. meaning i check scanner, see food and engage and try ransomming.
2days ago i was engaging a celestis in a rupture and rasomin he stalled me 30 sec and then i blew him up and there it comes a -6.7 player in a thorax and i go like omfg this is gonna turn out bad....he engages me (my shields r gone from celestis fight) and we go fairly even. at one pt i warp out (no stabs tq i just got out of range) so he has won the fight you could say....
lateron i look for him to engage knowing i could 60% take him....and he flies around in a condor saying losing a rax is to expensive... eventho he "won" the last engagement....
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Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2006.04.12 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: LordAmarus euhm what i dislike the most bout player rats is the fact that nowadays they r cowards for 99%
i personally do some very noob pirating in lowsec systems. meaning i check scanner, see food and engage and try ransomming.
2days ago i was engaging a celestis in a rupture and rasomin he stalled me 30 sec and then i blew him up and there it comes a -6.7 player in a thorax and i go like omfg this is gonna turn out bad....he engages me (my shields r gone from celestis fight) and we go fairly even. at one pt i warp out (no stabs tq i just got out of range) so he has won the fight you could say....
lateron i look for him to engage knowing i could 60% take him....and he flies around in a condor saying losing a rax is to expensive... eventho he "won" the last engagement....
I didnt understand a word of what you said.
Whats your point?
Killing the Minmatars since 22480 AD |

Acid Pimp
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Posted - 2006.04.12 22:17:00 -
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Edited by: Acid Pimp on 12/04/2006 22:17:23 omg pirates dont fight?
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.04.12 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Neon Genesis No point asking on here, only forum warriors and fanboys.
Liez, we are not forum warriors we are forum pirates, here to steal your threads!
I will go on topic and say...there are a fair few pirates out there who want to fight a good fight, but the job is finding them.
A nice -10 list with an easier way to find them other than an agent grind would be good.
Lately Im finding it hard to get past the undocking stage, its finally dawned on me (taken a while) that piracey is awful and just aint what it used to be.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.04.12 22:24:00 -
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Do -8.8 alliance carbears count aswell?
Jawas are lousy carebears :(
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LordAmarus
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Posted - 2006.04.12 22:41:00 -
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what I was essentialy saying was that I find it extremely lame if a socalled player pirate with an advantage even doesn't dare to fight other player rats. they they only pick on noobs or miners or snipe at gates -_-
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Tousaka Langley
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Posted - 2006.04.12 22:43:00 -
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Edited by: Tousaka Langley on 12/04/2006 22:43:35 Pirates? Cowards? No, why, I never heard of such a thing!
Few Pirates become Pirates to PvP fairly against equal skills. Hell, I could never be a rat. Something about ganking a month old character seems wrong.
Though I do wish CCP would change back warp scramblers to the way they were :(
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Psycarne
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Posted - 2006.04.12 22:46:00 -
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Quote: The new generation of pirates need to step up and fill the old pirates boots
Most of the old pirates started whining about how pirating had been nerfed and quit to play wow. ------------- Order of the Wombles: Recycling those untidy modules on your ship.
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Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2006.04.12 22:55:00 -
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Edited by: Slaveabuser on 12/04/2006 22:56:00
Originally by: LordAmarus what I was essentialy saying was that I find it extremely lame if a socalled player pirate with an advantage even doesn't dare to fight other player rats. they they only pick on noobs or miners or snipe at gates -_-
Fair enough. Tbh I hate snipers as well. Personally I do it the old fashion way....up close and personal.
I see your point, but your point applies to about every entity in EVE. Pirates, mercs, and 0.0 gankers.
To say pirates is any worse is just wrong. Though I know of some areas in space that are 'infected' with these people you speak of. Even though they are fellow pirates I would kill them without thinking twice.
Killing the Minmatars since 22480 AD |

Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.04.12 23:01:00 -
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/emote Stands up.
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Rasitiln
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Posted - 2006.04.12 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz /emote Stands up.
I think you have to login in order to stand up. 
That 1% was enough - Wrangler |

Verone
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Posted - 2006.04.12 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Neon Genesis No point asking on here, only forum warriors and fanboys.
Nice to see you've finally developed the coconuts to post with your main, Mr "Amarr Citizen 105". 
As for the -10 stuff... I'm only -9.998 so I'll stay seated for now... 
Still, over recent weeks, I've seen a few of the old school pirate names returning to the fray... and it's looking GOOD for the future. Hopefully it'll weed out the weaker ones who're just playing flavour of the month and send them back to empire.
Nice to see you're coming back to the Dark Side Kal... 
VETO MEMBER MOVIES
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.04.12 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Rasitiln
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz /emote Stands up.
I think you have to login in order to stand up. 
haha pwnt
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Guth
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Posted - 2006.04.12 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Ariness When I go out hunting other pirates (as I frequently do) I usually end up either being ganked or them running with stabs. Unless they have a 100% chance of winning, or have stabs, they will never engage. Even 2v1.
But I guess that's what piracy is thesedays: Killing others and getting away. It sucks.
Sorry, i agree that stabs are wimpy and blobs suck and all, but i just couldnt help myself:
"Killing others and getting away." why YES!!! that is what pirating is about? how else CAN you do it and profit from it? Its not that fact that is my problem. i mean of COURSE i try to get away if i am gonna die. Im a pirat, not a kamikaze pilot after all..
The problem is the way you go about it. Fitting stabs and blobbing is not the way.
(start mad rambling).... But then i dont like instas either... Using something the head developer of EVE hates, and is basically an exploit so widespread that they cannot take it away without giving a viable option nowadays is still an exploit in my opinion. ... (stop mad rambling...) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2006.04.13 00:06:00 -
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Guth, your sig makes me very, very happy.
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2006.04.13 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tenacha Khan
Originally by: Neon Genesis No point asking on here, only forum warriors and fanboys.
Liez, we are not forum warriors we are forum pirates, here to steal your threads!
I will go on topic and say...there are a fair few pirates out there who want to fight a good fight, but the job is finding them.
A nice -10 list with an easier way to find them other than an agent grind would be good.
Lately Im finding it hard to get past the undocking stage, its finally dawned on me (taken a while) that piracey is awful and just aint what it used to be.
I was not refering to you sir, respect to tdg.
I have no forum alts.
There, i just contributed nothing to your thread |

Kaleeb
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Posted - 2006.04.13 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Nice to see you're coming back to the Dark Side Kal... 
Sadly there isnt anything to do in eve anymore but this 
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duffmantt
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Posted - 2006.04.13 01:12:00 -
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Edited by: duffmantt on 13/04/2006 01:12:33 Kaleeb...this is the info i got from my end.
5 of us were in system but 2 afk. (me included) the tempest you challenged didnt actually have a setup on. how can he fight with no setup? so that leaves 2 bs, 1 unfitted, versus 2 bs and sentry guns.
oh, and apparently saltire agreed, and said 'not at the station, at a planet' ecven tho he didnt have a setup.
he undocked, and you engaged him, at the station.
to be fair, my guys werent happy with engaging you at the time. does this mean there not 'good pvpers' or 'proper pirates'
no.
I Love Primarch Currently recruiting! |

Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2006.04.13 01:34:00 -
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Its a vast universe. Strange things happen.
Lets just focus on killing idiots, its out common goal.
Killing the Minmatars since 22480 AD |

Aariss
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Posted - 2006.04.13 04:54:00 -
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Hey Kal. Glad to see you're having fun. I wonder what would happen if the stab system blew up *scratches head* guess pirates are just going to have to form uber tackler squads 4 ceptors to tackle 1-2 BSs to pummle.
or ccp can make interdictor bubbles in low sec non aggressive acts that would be cool.
anyway when you hit -10 you need to let us know.. :P havn;'t been a pirate yet but it sounds fun.. tech 1 cruisers ftw... Some people are like slinkies... good for nothing but fun to push down the stairs |

Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.04.13 05:09:00 -
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It doesn't mean anything because piracy is to easy now. I think I would be -10 if I would stop going to 0.0 but then again I only goto 0.0 because it's not as easy.
So where have the good pirates gone you say? Do you have eyes? I mean if your whole def of a good pirate is someone who will fight you, not snipe you, not wear stabs, and pretty much allow you to be "even". Then I think you got the whole piracy thing twisted. Sure Angel Deep, ATUF, HUFF, Veto, and whoever else might be good pirates but if they still do what they do with stabs, snipe, and even it up for you then they're not "good pirates"?
I really don't understand most of you forum guys. You all sit there and cry about how piracy is dead or there is no good pirates yet people are out there smacking people around, taking there isk, straight up ganking them for there loot, and all you can say is "There is no good pirates who arn't cheap and weak!". Hate to break it to you. Most of us are in empire killing easy targets for a reason. Sure some of us can really fight if we need to but really do you think Veto is all good pvp combat pilots? Do you think people would fear a bunch of empire guys who made a name for them selves on the forums compared to umm some alliance sheep hoard? (Using Veto as an example)
Get real already. Kill or be killed. Ransom or be ransomed. There is no limitions here in our sandbox known as eve. Piracy is very much alive and there is a number of good pirates still out there.
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2006.04.13 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri It doesn't mean anything because piracy is to easy now. I think I would be -10 if I would stop going to 0.0 but then again I only goto 0.0 because it's not as easy.
So where have the good pirates gone you say? Do you have eyes? I mean if your whole def of a good pirate is someone who will fight you, not snipe you, not wear stabs, and pretty much allow you to be "even". Then I think you got the whole piracy thing twisted. Sure Angel Deep, ATUF, HUFF, Veto, and whoever else might be good pirates but if they still do what they do with stabs, snipe, and even it up for you then they're not "good pirates"?
I really don't understand most of you forum guys. You all sit there and cry about how piracy is dead or there is no good pirates yet people are out there smacking people around, taking there isk, straight up ganking them for there loot, and all you can say is "There is no good pirates who arn't cheap and weak!". Hate to break it to you. Most of us are in empire killing easy targets for a reason. Sure some of us can really fight if we need to but really do you think Veto is all good pvp combat pilots? Do you think people would fear a bunch of empire guys who made a name for them selves on the forums compared to umm some alliance sheep hoard? (Using Veto as an example)
Get real already. Kill or be killed. Ransom or be ransomed. There is no limitions here in our sandbox known as eve. Piracy is very much alive and there is a number of good pirates still out there.
Personally, my problem is not with people who fit stabs, snipe or whatever. I consider all that fair. My problem is with the people who simply have bad attitudes.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.04.13 06:38:00 -
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Im just poo... I'l engage things and then just lose horribly I think running away is probably wiser on my isk situation. Sadly when drunk that theory dissapears 
For instance Tenacha ^ Owes me 2 tech II fitted battleships Stupid black megathron !!!!!!!
Alliaanna
Official Follower of =-= Royal Hiigaran Navy =-= |

klok718
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Posted - 2006.04.13 06:52:00 -
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Yesterday I made about 50 jumps in low sec space. I made instas for an entire constellationà. In a slasher with no stabs. There were no pirates about; as a matter of fact someone was mining in a burst.
The Day before I amused myself by teasing 5 pirates of the same corp by jumping in and out of there gate camp for about an hour without instas.
Noob pirates are a boon to us risk taking carebears. A perfect example is why I made those instas. Noob pirate X camps gate. I watch what happens on scanner. Noob pirate gets a kill but cannot tank sentries at all so he warps out for 15 minutes. I warp in and collect can. WEEEE! Free stuff! This Technique has netted me about 2 mill in usless dookie in one day. Not much I know but I donÆt have to use so much as a single EMP round.
(That corp shall remain nameless seeing as one of their members is posting in this thread)
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tiller
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Posted - 2006.04.13 07:29:00 -
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This whole 'real' pirate thing is crazy. If you think about it, why should someone accept a offer to do a 1 vs 1 to death ?.. I certainly wouldn't, it's simply a waste of isk and much more fun could be had shooting people who don't want to be shot.
People have a go at some 'pirates' coz they run away to quickly, but the urge to stay in the fight longer gets more the longer you've been playing eve. I used to warp out when tank was just about to fail, these days I stay until hull is disappearing. My biggest probem in eve atm is not stabs, they are fine and can be countered, but it's EW ruining the game. With every other ship these days jamming, hunting solo at gates is dam dangerous, dangerous being that I'll lose more isk than I make and won't be able to sustain my style of game play. If I can't sustain my style of game play I'll just quit and return to ganking people in stanglethorn vale (WOW)
At the end of the day if I can make enough isk to pay for the ships I lose, then thats a good balance. If your stock piling isk then you are being to careful. If you get this balance just right however, you'll have a ton of fun whatever your sec status.
/randomness
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V2GBR
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Posted - 2006.04.13 08:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleeb
Originally by: Verone
Nice to see you're coming back to the Dark Side Kal... 
Sadly there isnt anything to do in eve anymore but this 
/me strokes Kaleeb ----------
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Spyres
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Posted - 2006.04.13 08:21:00 -
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These forums are absolutely overburdened with posts decrying the playing style of others. I think it deserves only one response:
Until you pay for the subscription/s of the person or corp you are complaining about, you have no right to utter a word of complaint about their style of play, unless of course it is exploiting some aspect of the game.
What's more, all this sentimental rubbish about real, 'old' pirates and whatever else is laughable. Everything in this game is changeable and context based, so any notion of what a 'real' pirate, or 'real' pvper is will change with the game. Just because some of the more notorious pilots preferred a particular playing style, does not legitimate that style as the only correct one.
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Xeaon
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Posted - 2006.04.13 09:15:00 -
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Yeah Spyres is right, just because some want to camp gates it doesn't make them any less of a pirate, -10 means nothing anyway.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.13 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: klok718 Yesterday I made about 50 jumps in low sec space. I made instas for an entire constellationà. In a slasher with no stabs. There were no pirates about; as a matter of fact someone was mining in a burst.
The Day before I amused myself by teasing 5 pirates of the same corp by jumping in and out of there gate camp for about an hour without instas.
Noob pirates are a boon to us risk taking carebears. A perfect example is why I made those instas. Noob pirate X camps gate. I watch what happens on scanner. Noob pirate gets a kill but cannot tank sentries at all so he warps out for 15 minutes. I warp in and collect can. WEEEE! Free stuff! This Technique has netted me about 2 mill in usless dookie in one day. Not much I know but I donÆt have to use so much as a single EMP round.
(That corp shall remain nameless seeing as one of their members is posting in this thread)
Next time warp in and scramble him when hes aggressed. He might nos you and kill you but it's priceless fun killing a sentry tanker this way
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Ginaz
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Posted - 2006.04.13 11:05:00 -
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1) Pirates/Thiefs 2) Outlaws 3) Terrorists 4) dumbasses/roughnecks
4 different Eve Professions, sadly all of them fall under the term "Pirate".
Most wannabee Pirates would be Number 3) and/or 4). There are only a few Pirates that act like thiefs or outlaws who make a living from stealing, i.e. ransom > kill. It's not hard to be self sufficient from just ransoming people....
But discussing something like that on e-o.com is quite pointless - Veto. ftw!
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.04.13 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ginaz 1) Pirates/Thiefs 2) Outlaws 3) Terrorists 4) dumbasses/roughnecks
4 different Eve Professions, sadly all of them fall under the term "Pirate".
Most wannabee Pirates would be Number 3) and/or 4). There are only a few Pirates that act like thiefs or outlaws who make a living from stealing, i.e. ransom > kill. It's not hard to be self sufficient from just ransoming people....
But discussing something like that on e-o.com is quite pointless
umm ok?
It would be nice to always ransom but most of the time when you're umm solo it's kind of hard to do anything but kill there asses for that loot. Call me a terrorist or a outlaw, still getting that can.
@Necro
We suppost to have good attitudes? Maybe you got pirates confused with Veto.
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2006.04.13 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: duffmantt Edited by: duffmantt on 13/04/2006 01:12:33 Kaleeb...this is the info i got from my end.
5 of us were in system but 2 afk. (me included) the tempest you challenged didnt actually have a setup on. how can he fight with no setup? so that leaves 2 bs, 1 unfitted, versus 2 bs and sentry guns.
oh, and apparently saltire agreed, and said 'not at the station, at a planet' ecven tho he didnt have a setup.
he undocked, and you engaged him, at the station.
to be fair, my guys werent happy with engaging you at the time. does this mean there not 'good pvpers' or 'proper pirates'
no.
The tempest was fitted as he was armour repping.
I didnt ask for a 1vs1 I offered a 5vs2 in the ships you were currently in which I believe was/would have been about 3bs a bc and a ceptor against our 2 bs. I shot the tempest out of frustration knowing he would dock.
But if 2 of you were afk then fair enough 3vs2 would have been a big ask I guess.
Famine you kill npc'rs and haulers in 0.0 no difference between that and empire except u get bigger blobs in 0.0
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.04.13 14:38:00 -
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Quote: Famine you kill npc'rs and haulers in 0.0 no difference between that and empire except u get bigger blobs in 0.0
Don't assume to know what I target. I fly small and well I can only hit other things small (to avoid those blobs). I do try to aim to catch 0.0 indys mostly. They're the easiest targets due to there slow agility (Without using a bubble). Blobs arn't a big deal and I don't know why people fear them but it's more about finding targets than going there because it's 0.0. Lots of pirates out there and a lot of them don't move around. So it's hard to move in those spots they seem to camp. So yes there is a big diffrence.
P.S Killing NPC'ers is harder in 0.0 than in empire. Empire you got morons, most all 0.0 npc'ers will log or SS soon as someone enters who looks hostile. If you're able to snag a npc'er in 0.0. Then consider your self a win because obviously they're braindead like the empire guys =)
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duffmantt
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Posted - 2006.04.13 14:40:00 -
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yah m8 2 of us was afk. so it was a ceptor, a BC and a tempest half fitted with no guns versus 2 BS.
somthing like that
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Bexxly
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Posted - 2006.04.13 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: duffmantt yah m8 2 of us was afk. so it was a ceptor, a BC and a tempest half fitted with no guns versus 2 BS.
somthing like that
Make more excuses plz 
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2006.04.13 15:07:00 -
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To make it short: TDG is the last original pirate corp - still with the original members Xpohoc, Tenacha Kahn, Pfffft, Orthan and myself. 3 years! And i will answer your question: the old piracy style died! Even for us its impossible to fly arround with 2 BS in 0.0 - we would get ganked after 5 or 6 jumps by alliance blobs. So we had to adapt and we use evil tactics like sniping, ninja camping, ganking, alt scouting, alliance spys and and and. There is simply no other way to make ISK with PVP. So what you miss is the old days where corps like the Jokers or ours flew arround in 0.0 in groups of 2-4 ships. These days are over! Get over it and get ganked!
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.04.13 17:15:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 13/04/2006 17:16:52
Originally by: Lifewire To make it short: TDG is the last original pirate corp - still with the original members Xpohoc, Tenacha Kahn, Pfffft, Orthan and myself. 3 years! And i will answer your question: the old piracy style died! Even for us its impossible to fly arround with 2 BS in 0.0 - we would get ganked after 5 or 6 jumps by alliance blobs. So we had to adapt and we use evil tactics like sniping, ninja camping, ganking, alt scouting, alliance spys and and and. There is simply no other way to make ISK with PVP. So what you miss is the old days where corps like the Jokers or ours flew arround in 0.0 in groups of 2-4 ships. These days are over! Get over it and get ganked!
hrrrm what? You can't fly in 0.0 without getting blobbed and ganked? I don't understand that at all. I understand what you're saying about people blobbing you. You goto alliance space and cause havok you will get blobbed but umm it's not that complicated to get around. I mean Inty fleets or squads can do a lot of damage. You're pretty much invuln and can move all over hell with the quickness. Same applies to HAC squads or fleets and Cruiser squads or fleets. Anyways, how come corps like Burn Eden can do that, go into 0.0 kill some ships ect possiably even ransom instead of kill and this elite only original pirate corp left can't?
Makes no sense to me...
Look at your tools
-Cloaking Technology -Cloaking Pvp style Ships -WCS's -Instas -Map -Agile ships -Roaming
I think Lorth just posted up a topic on how he can't die ever. He is a 0.0 pilot in a alliance/pvp corp. How come one man can be invuln from all of that and a whole corp can't? 
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Superbus Maximus
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Posted - 2006.04.13 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 13/04/2006 17:16:52
Originally by: Lifewire To make it short: TDG is the last original pirate corp - still with the original members Xpohoc, Tenacha Kahn, Pfffft, Orthan and myself. 3 years! And i will answer your question: the old piracy style died! Even for us its impossible to fly arround with 2 BS in 0.0 - we would get ganked after 5 or 6 jumps by alliance blobs. So we had to adapt and we use evil tactics like sniping, ninja camping, ganking, alt scouting, alliance spys and and and. There is simply no other way to make ISK with PVP. So what you miss is the old days where corps like the Jokers or ours flew arround in 0.0 in groups of 2-4 ships. These days are over! Get over it and get ganked!
hrrrm what? You can't fly in 0.0 without getting blobbed and ganked? I don't understand that at all. I understand what you're saying about people blobbing you. You goto alliance space and cause havok you will get blobbed but umm it's not that complicated to get around. I mean Inty fleets or squads can do a lot of damage. You're pretty much invuln and can move all over hell with the quickness. Same applies to HAC squads or fleets and Cruiser squads or fleets. Anyways, how come corps like Burn Eden can do that, go into 0.0 kill some ships ect possiably even ransom instead of kill and this elite only original pirate corp left can't?
Makes no sense to me...
Look at your tools
-Cloaking Technology -Cloaking Pvp style Ships -WCS's -Instas -Map -Agile ships -Roaming
I think Lorth just posted up a topic on how he can't die ever. He is a 0.0 pilot in a alliance/pvp corp. How come one man can be invuln from all of that and a whole corp can't? 
Lol first your an idiot he was refering to a 2-4 man bs squad going down to 0.0 space and ganking, its suicide dont belive me go try it, he never mentioned anything about cruisers or not going into 0.0.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.04.13 17:32:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 13/04/2006 17:34:19 Oh im sorry, I'll edit my post and put BS squads too if you like?
There is no reason why a 2-4 man BS squad in your suggestion shouldn't do exactly what he said. I used Burn Eden as the example to cover that fact instead of saying "BS squad or fleet" being everyone who knows BE knows they're not all in small to medium ships. They run battleships.
0.0 is very vast. If you can't do what you say is dead. Then there is only one explanation for that. Weak piloting skills. I know it's hard to admit or hard to understand but that's just what it is. Nothing is stopping you in EVE. Not everyone is perfect. I'm a much better HAC and Inty pilot than I am a BS pilot. I'm weak on those skills and tactics... I'll admit that.. But that doesn't mean it's not in my reach as still going into 0.0 with 2-4 man BS gangs and doing exactly what you want. Cloaking is your friend.
To answer your last part of that ignorance. Yes I have tried it and no it's no suicide unless you're a moron. Which is most cases is...
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duffmantt
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Posted - 2006.04.13 17:57:00 -
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Quote: Make more excuses plz
who are you? seriously. go and mine som veldspar
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2006.04.13 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: duffmantt
Quote: Make more excuses plz
who are you? seriously. go and mine som veldspar
KTHNXDIE were one of the original pirate corps in Dantumi/Mara area. Proper pirates.
Who are you?
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Siren Shiva
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Posted - 2006.04.13 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: Siren Shiva on 13/04/2006 20:32:53
Originally by: Kaleeb
Forgot about my Gallente biatch Verone sorry mate!
Verone is MY biatch and cybz0r slave. Keep your grabbing tools to yourself. 
p.s. I committed the biggest theft in Eve history by stealing him from Eris. Sorry, Eris.
Lyticus > I freaking hate you! Siren Shiva > I love you too <3 Trey > Siren sounds like she could kick my ass on Vent
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Magic Trev
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Posted - 2006.04.13 20:53:00 -
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"cybz0r slave"
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.04.13 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleeb
Originally by: duffmantt
Quote: Make more excuses plz
who are you? seriously. go and mine som veldspar
KTHNXDIE were one of the original pirate corps in Dantumi/Mara area. Proper pirates.
Who are you?
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Siren Shiva
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Posted - 2006.04.13 21:20:00 -
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Go to bed Trev.
Kiddo 
Lyticus > I freaking hate you! Siren Shiva > I love you too <3 Trey > Siren sounds like she could kick my ass on Vent
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2006.04.13 22:25:00 -
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We're not pirates, we're murderers.
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Guth
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Posted - 2006.04.13 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: Necrologic Guth, your sig makes me very, very happy.
Thanks. It makes me happy as well.. 
I imagine you're referring to the "STFU" part, not the "League of Ordinary Gentlemen" part  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Guth
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Posted - 2006.04.13 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Necrologic
Personally, my problem is not with people who fit stabs, snipe or whatever. I consider all that fair. My problem is with the people who simply have bad attitudes.
Totally agree Necro. Thats what i was trying to state in my post earlier. Of course.. it kinda turned into a rant about several small issues i have but what the hell.. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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duffmantt
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Posted - 2006.04.13 23:41:00 -
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Quote: KTHNXDIE were one of the original pirate corps in Dantumi/Mara area. Proper pirates, Who are you?
Were the T2 version m8
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2006.04.13 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Guth
Originally by: Necrologic Guth, your sig makes me very, very happy.
Thanks. It makes me happy as well.. 
I imagine you're referring to the "STFU" part, not the "League of Ordinary Gentlemen" part 
Yeah, my favorite forum pic.
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duffmantt
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Posted - 2006.04.13 23:45:00 -
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is that a .gif of Oveur Nerfing missles.
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2006.04.14 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: duffmantt
Quote: KTHNXDIE were one of the original pirate corps in Dantumi/Mara area. Proper pirates, Who are you?
Were the T2 version m8
lol never in a million years, infact i will ask Carth and Ali If I can resurect KTHNXDIE. It would be the biggest honour ever. (yes beeen pub/club tonight)
p.s drunk is ben still playing? if so tell him to answer his mail, if not let me know p;s¼
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2006.04.14 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleeb
Originally by: duffmantt
Quote: KTHNXDIE were one of the original pirate corps in Dantumi/Mara area. Proper pirates, Who are you?
Were the T2 version m8
lol never in a million years, infact i will ask Carth and Ali If I can resurect KTHNXDIE. It would be the biggest honour ever. (yes beeen pub/club tonight)
p.s drunk is ben still playing? if so tell him to answer his mail, if not let me know p;s¼
Though, ressurecting KTHNXDIE would be a trip. It just wouldnt be the same without Neb, Alindyar, Carth, Mad Darkness, Bexxly and Jebidus Skari running around Lonetrek killing people.
Ah, the days when anti-pirates fought, killed, died. Pirates fought, stayed, died or killed, didnt fit warp core stabs or hang 160km off the gate. People were not entranced by level-4 missions and preferred low security npcing and mining. Pirates were fun fights, win or lose.
Well, those days are gone.
Sadly, Noone really knows who KTHNXDIE is/was, this is pretty obvious. They were some/or probably was the best pirates and I enjoyed every minute fighting them and fighting with them.
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raVn666
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Posted - 2006.04.14 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleeb Edited by: Kaleeb on 12/04/2006 15:27:52 So recently I left my old corp GUC and moved back home to the Lonetrek area and after a few weeks back there i`m ashamed of the pirates inhabitating the area that was once our stomping grounds.
I`ve travelled around a few regions Genesis, Molden Heath, Lonetrek, Citadel, Aridia etc etc and all I can say is where have the good pirates gone?
(Angel Deep, ATUF and HUFF not included in this)
For example I just asked a few pirates for a fight since we were camping them in the station. There were 5-6 of them in system (not afk) with at least 3 battleships, cerb and I were each in bs's (no EW). So I challenged them to fight at a planet and all I got was i`ll 1vs1 u to hull 
I guess what i`m trying to say is -10 used to mean something now it seems most people just either stab up or snipe 
The new generation of pirates need to step up and fill the old pirates boots
First ...take a roadtrip to Syndicate , there are pirates here that drewl's after getting an old fashion fair fight 
second... I thin U should requestion and rather ask where have the good pvp'ers gone. To get a fair fight this days is almost impossible , people dont seem to fight if they are not sure they have the 'I win button' and heavily outnumbers theyr pray. Examply , last night we had a 11 pilot gang going , and we ran into a gang with 15 pilots , and they even had 2 more battleships than us , and we where ready to fight , infact we wanted to get a good fight with them , but what did they do , they safespotted... Why ... because they didnt outnumber us heavily , they could loose ships  And btw , this was a pvp corp ... not pirates
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merc999
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Posted - 2006.04.14 11:57:00 -
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Quote: Pirates were fun fights, win or lose
sorry... but im not a pirate to lose isk...
i do all the objectionable tactics mentioned in this thread..
Why.. simply it makes me isk.. loot I sell or recycle Ransoms are nice..
Noobies in the systems I rat in are popped to stop them taking my rats..
I had a nice set up selling skill books that noobie pilots dropped to other noobs.. then popping them at the gate back to high sec.. and collecting the skill book outta the can and putting it back on market
1 skill book was sold and collcted outta can 4 times
I am not a pirate to uphold a warped sense of honour... I kill cos I actually like it.. and it makes me isk and all tactics "nice" or not i will use if it means my ship and pod have a better chance of surviving
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Rheinkraft
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Posted - 2006.04.14 12:01:00 -
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Something that has ruined solo piracy in this game for me has got to be the god damn WARP CORR STABS!!!! I have 3x 20km warp disruptors fitted to my raven and yes ppl still manage to warp out, even a fellow raven i engaged just a couple of days ago managed to warp out?? its so f**king anoying and its got to the stage where im looking for another pvp fused game. The only way to pirate now is to have multiple ships sat at gate with gazillions of warp disruptors on. RIP piracy. Respect to the -10 keeping it real 
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2006.04.14 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rheinkraft Something that has ruined solo piracy in this game for me has got to be the god damn WARP CORR STABS!!!! I have 3x 20km warp disruptors fitted to my raven and yes ppl still manage to warp out, even a fellow raven i engaged just a couple of days ago managed to warp out?? its so f**king anoying and its got to the stage where im looking for another pvp fused game. The only way to pirate now is to have multiple ships sat at gate with gazillions of warp disruptors on. RIP piracy. Respect to the -10 keeping it real 
I like how they say, 'Don't complain about WCS's, just get more tacklers.', then when you do, and you kill them, they say, 'All you can do is blob and outnumber someone.'. --------
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Magic Trev
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Posted - 2006.04.14 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: Rheinkraft Something that has ruined solo piracy in this game for me has got to be the god damn WARP CORR STABS!!!! I have 3x 20km warp disruptors fitted to my raven and yes ppl still manage to warp out, even a fellow raven i engaged just a couple of days ago managed to warp out?? its so f**king anoying and its got to the stage where im looking for another pvp fused game. The only way to pirate now is to have multiple ships sat at gate with gazillions of warp disruptors on. RIP piracy. Respect to the -10 keeping it real 
I like how they say, 'Don't complain about WCS's, just get more tacklers.', then when you do, and you kill them, they say, 'All you can do is blob and outnumber someone.'.
i agree with you there. though i also agree more with whoever it was that said its not the method of palying thats the problem anymore as thats just development but the attitude of some of thoose playing.
For example earlier myself and two other veto members where flying around in our ceptors looking for some people to ransom when 3 ravens started camping a gate we needed to go through... so we went to the gate mwd'd through and continued on our way... all three then jumped in behind us and proceeded to say we were "no fun" and "chickens"...
this being despite the fact i had sat on the gate for a good 20 seconds waiting for the other two to arrive with out being attacked (im -10 so no sentry fire would of come from it). so essentialy what is being suggested is that 3 frigs should take on 3 BS's... whilst under sentry fire in order to not have abuse shouted at them in local...  --------------------
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.04.14 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleeb
Originally by: duffmantt
Quote: KTHNXDIE were one of the original pirate corps in Dantumi/Mara area. Proper pirates, Who are you?
Were the T2 version m8
lol never in a million years, infact i will ask Carth and Ali If I can resurect KTHNXDIE. It would be the biggest honour ever. (yes beeen pub/club tonight)
p.s drunk is ben still playing? if so tell him to answer his mail, if not let me know p;s¼
He sold benwallace, his new char is b3nwallace. Or join channel tlsc ingame, petition inc public. Hes been pretty inactive lately being pakki or something. New Petition Inc Vid |

Trepkos
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Posted - 2006.04.14 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Magic Trev
Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: Rheinkraft Something that has ruined solo piracy in this game for me has got to be the god damn WARP CORR STABS!!!! I have 3x 20km warp disruptors fitted to my raven and yes ppl still manage to warp out, even a fellow raven i engaged just a couple of days ago managed to warp out?? its so f**king anoying and its got to the stage where im looking for another pvp fused game. The only way to pirate now is to have multiple ships sat at gate with gazillions of warp disruptors on. RIP piracy. Respect to the -10 keeping it real 
I like how they say, 'Don't complain about WCS's, just get more tacklers.', then when you do, and you kill them, they say, 'All you can do is blob and outnumber someone.'.
i agree with you there. though i also agree more with whoever it was that said its not the method of palying thats the problem anymore as thats just development but the attitude of some of thoose playing.
For example earlier myself and two other veto members where flying around in our ceptors looking for some people to ransom when 3 ravens started camping a gate we needed to go through... so we went to the gate mwd'd through and continued on our way... all three then jumped in behind us and proceeded to say we were "no fun" and "chickens"...
this being despite the fact i had sat on the gate for a good 20 seconds waiting for the other two to arrive with out being attacked (im -10 so no sentry fire would of come from it). so essentialy what is being suggested is that 3 frigs should take on 3 BS's... whilst under sentry fire in order to not have abuse shouted at them in local... 
And I detest the fact that alot of people do not pirate in battleships anymore(Belt Piracy that is).
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.04.14 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Superbus Maximus
Lol first your an idiot he was refering to a 2-4 man bs squad going down to 0.0 space and ganking, its suicide dont belive me go try it, he never mentioned anything about cruisers or not going into 0.0.
You really need to come out with me sometime super...It's doable, and its fun. 
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.04.14 20:34:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Superbus Maximus
Lol first your an idiot he was refering to a 2-4 man bs squad going down to 0.0 space and ganking, its suicide dont belive me go try it, he never mentioned anything about cruisers or not going into 0.0.
You really need to come out with me sometime super...It's doable, and its fun. 
We do it almost every day 
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Magic Trev
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Posted - 2006.04.14 20:46:00 -
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.04.14 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Superbus Maximus
Lol first your an idiot he was refering to a 2-4 man bs squad going down to 0.0 space and ganking, its suicide dont belive me go try it, he never mentioned anything about cruisers or not going into 0.0.
You really need to come out with me sometime super...It's doable, and its fun. 
It's always been douable. It's not like there is only one choke point anymore. There is many points to slip into 0.0 and do something. I've seen Sniggy in 0.0 and I've seen Veto heading to 0.0. I don't know if they were always in BS's but yeah, those are small squads going into 0.0 to do something. It's not suicidale unless you have poor leaders or a bunch of retards :P
It's obviously a lot harder to claim gates and ect (Gate camping in 0.0). If people want to clear you out they can unless you out blob them but speaking on a small squad point of view you will be pushed out by some form of alliance around the area. Other than that, everything should be fine. If you plan it correctly and execute a good plan and fly with decent pilots. You can go into 0.0 with any style ship and have success. I find it much more fun but that's just me im solo anyways.
Originally by: whoever And I detest the fact that alot of people do not pirate in battleships anymore(Belt Piracy that is).
I'm not downing belt piracy with battleships but umm why? Reason why smaller ships are better are obviously for the facts there more agile. Megathrons and others with MWD setups are more of a exception but even those who fly mega's/speed BS's will tell you it's still hard. Not to mention the fact you pretty much have to stack warp disruptors compared to just using warp scramblers.
If I had my choice of the perfect ship. It would be a HAC, Cruiser or Battlecruiser for both a agile ship to catch people before the warp, tanking sentry, and well faster roaming without Insta's.
vaga 4tw!
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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
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Posted - 2006.04.14 21:28:00 -
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1. This thread is..... 2. I agree with Tiller and Famine and Tung corp 3. Pirates are pirateing to make isk they dont need to ask u how they are going to kill you. 4. Not everyone is going to waste 4 Clicks to warp in to Tackle a shuttle when they can sniper it same for frigs. 5. Pirates Kill Frigs and shuttles and Newbs ships cause sometimes they are hauling implants and skills. Ive got multiple full +3 implant sets from them. 6. Pirate make there isk by pirateing why bother risking the chance that youll have friends jump in. in a 1vs1 when he doesnt have to. 7. The only pirates considered the *good pirates* are those who are forum trolls and seem to be up here advertising there 1 good deed or some other stupid thing. 8. There are plenty of good pirates out there but people will make threads like this Constantly Because no matter how bad you kill someone they will have something to complain about u.
*Oh sure u hit me for 2,100 Im not impressed ive been killed for 2,101 before *you only killed me cause i was afk *Only thing you can kill is a hauler! ?but we blew up ur raven yesturday *My comp Glitched thats only reason u killed me
Etc Etc Etc. Dont think you need other peoples approval of how you killed them.
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Fuglife
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Posted - 2006.04.14 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN 1. This thread is..... 2. I agree with Tiller and Famine and Tung corp 3. Pirates are pirateing to make isk they dont need to ask u how they are going to kill you. 4. Not everyone is going to waste 4 Clicks to warp in to Tackle a shuttle when they can sniper it same for frigs. 5. Pirates Kill Frigs and shuttles and Newbs ships cause sometimes they are hauling implants and skills. Ive got multiple full +3 implant sets from them. 6. Pirate make there isk by pirateing why bother risking the chance that youll have friends jump in. in a 1vs1 when he doesnt have to. 7. The only pirates considered the *good pirates* are those who are forum trolls and seem to be up here advertising there 1 good deed or some other stupid thing. 8. There are plenty of good pirates out there but people will make threads like this Constantly Because no matter how bad you kill someone they will have something to complain about u.
*Oh sure u hit me for 2,100 Im not impressed ive been killed for 2,101 before *you only killed me cause i was afk *Only thing you can kill is a hauler! ?but we blew up ur raven yesturday *My comp Glitched thats only reason u killed me
Etc Etc Etc. Dont think you need other peoples approval of how you killed them.
agreed!
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duffmantt
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Posted - 2006.04.14 21:46:00 -
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Quote: 1. This thread is..... 2. I agree with Tiller and Famine and Tung corp 3. Pirates are pirateing to make isk they dont need to ask u how they are going to kill you. 4. Not everyone is going to waste 4 Clicks to warp in to Tackle a shuttle when they can sniper it same for frigs. 5. Pirates Kill Frigs and shuttles and Newbs ships cause sometimes they are hauling implants and skills. Ive got multiple full +3 implant sets from them. 6. Pirate make there isk by pirateing why bother risking the chance that youll have friends jump in. in a 1vs1 when he doesnt have to. 7. The only pirates considered the *good pirates* are those who are forum trolls and seem to be up here advertising there 1 good deed or some other stupid thing. 8. There are plenty of good pirates out there but people will make threads like this Constantly Because no matter how bad you kill someone they will have something to complain about u.
*Oh sure u hit me for 2,100 Im not impressed ive been killed for 2,101 before *you only killed me cause i was afk *Only thing you can kill is a hauler! ?but we blew up ur raven yesturday *My comp Glitched thats only reason u killed me
Etc Etc Etc. Dont think you need other peoples approval of how you killed them.
QFT m8, QFT
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2006.04.14 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN 1. This thread is..... 2. I agree with Tiller and Famine and Tung corp 3. Pirates are pirateing to make isk they dont need to ask u how they are going to kill you. 4. Not everyone is going to waste 4 Clicks to warp in to Tackle a shuttle when they can sniper it same for frigs. 5. Pirates Kill Frigs and shuttles and Newbs ships cause sometimes they are hauling implants and skills. Ive got multiple full +3 implant sets from them. 6. Pirate make there isk by pirateing why bother risking the chance that youll have friends jump in. in a 1vs1 when he doesnt have to. 7. The only pirates considered the *good pirates* are those who are forum trolls and seem to be up here advertising there 1 good deed or some other stupid thing. 8. There are plenty of good pirates out there but people will make threads like this Constantly Because no matter how bad you kill someone they will have something to complain about u.
*Oh sure u hit me for 2,100 Im not impressed ive been killed for 2,101 before *you only killed me cause i was afk *Only thing you can kill is a hauler! ?but we blew up ur raven yesturday *My comp Glitched thats only reason u killed me
Etc Etc Etc. Dont think you need other peoples approval of how you killed them.
I dont really understand much of what your on about i`m afraid 
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cpskatan
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Posted - 2006.04.14 22:39:00 -
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Edited by: cpskatan on 14/04/2006 22:39:47 The reason everone uses stabs nowadays is couse everyone started talking about them at the forum. Stabs are for a fact the reason real pirates died. I get like one out of ten fights that will come to an end, in both low sec and 0.0. I think when u get in a fight u better die or survive, everyone in eve should be ready for a fight any time be it there mining be it they rating. Stabs got to go!.
pirate coalition = nooblars
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Psycarne
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Posted - 2006.04.14 22:47:00 -
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The reason why so many people are using stabs is because, firstly they were changed from med slot modules to low slot.
Then due to the stacking changes, more low slots were freed up to fit stabs. Also the the EW changes mean that it is harder to guage wether you enemy can jam you, hence it often makes sense to fit stabs because you can go into fight after fight and be jammed by ships with like 3 med slots. Which gets very, very frustrating. ------------- Order of the Wombles: Recycling those untidy modules on your ship.
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yaaarrrr
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Posted - 2006.04.15 03:46:00 -
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just my 2 isk worth... Mind you im only a noob But hey i have a opinion also// :)
This game is what you make of it.. If you are board it is your own fault. I see nothing wrong with any tactics imployed by people in this game.. If you dont like the fact someone is using stabs then learn how to counter it.
If you dont like something find ways to get arround the problem. I see too many people on these forums complaining about stuff.. When what they should be doing is learning as much about how to counter these things they are whining about.
as to pirats.. I look at it this way.. If you A. Make money from your actions. B. Have fun doing it. You are a good Pirate. Regardless what others think or say. Your here to have fun.. make a little isk and blow some ships up.. Not care about what others think.
In the art of war there are no rule. cept for 1.. "Their are no rules" That said. I will use any and all means at my disposal to take my target out.. If i can't take my target out i will not fight. Plain and simple.
(Side note: i am not a pirate nor thinking of becoming one any time soon)
/end 2 isk worth
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2006.04.15 06:50:00 -
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The question is not if its doable or not - the question is: does it make sense???
For my part my answer is: no!
- high risk - low ISK
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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
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Posted - 2006.04.15 08:05:00 -
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duffmantt QTF? whats that mean? 
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duffmantt
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Posted - 2006.04.15 10:57:00 -
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Cranberry, QFT means 'Quoted for truth' its the apparent l33t speak version of saying , 'i agree'
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.04.15 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Lifewire The question is not if its doable or not - the question is: does it make sense???
For my part my answer is: no!
- high risk - low ISK
agreed
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.04.19 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Trepkos We're not pirates, we're murderers.
*Looks at Sicex*
qft. --------------
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Guth
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Posted - 2006.04.19 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Magic Trev
Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: Rheinkraft Something that has ruined solo piracy in this game for me has got to be the god damn WARP CORR STABS!!!! I have 3x 20km warp disruptors fitted to my raven and yes ppl still manage to warp out, even a fellow raven i engaged just a couple of days ago managed to warp out?? its so f**king anoying and its got to the stage where im looking for another pvp fused game. The only way to pirate now is to have multiple ships sat at gate with gazillions of warp disruptors on. RIP piracy. Respect to the -10 keeping it real 
I like how they say, 'Don't complain about WCS's, just get more tacklers.', then when you do, and you kill them, they say, 'All you can do is blob and outnumber someone.'.
i agree with you there. though i also agree more with whoever it was that said its not the method of palying thats the problem anymore as thats just development but the attitude of some of thoose playing.
That would be me, your nice neighbourhood ex-Veto 
Originally by: Magic Trev
For example earlier myself and two other veto members where flying around in our ceptors looking for some people to ransom when 3 ravens started camping a gate we needed to go through... so we went to the gate mwd'd through and continued on our way... all three then jumped in behind us and proceeded to say we were "no fun" and "chickens"...
this being despite the fact i had sat on the gate for a good 20 seconds waiting for the other two to arrive with out being attacked (im -10 so no sentry fire would of come from it). so essentialy what is being suggested is that 3 frigs should take on 3 BS's... whilst under sentry fire in order to not have abuse shouted at them in local... 
There will always be people who I (for one) would prefer to have in other games, any other game as long as I'm not playing it... Those raven pilots are that kind of people..
Its sad, but it seems that since EVE has gotten more popular, its gotten more of this kind of people. The ex-WOW crowd or something like that.
I might be generalizing but it seems to me many of the problems in eve that look unrelated are all actually related. By the attitude of those people using them. Its the morons who like to smacktalk in local, who have no respect for fellow players and try to gank and grief as much as possible for their own "fun", that probably are the ones buying isk as well.. I mean they have no respect for their fellow players or the hard work and vision of CCP.
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Guth
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Posted - 2006.04.19 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN 1. This thread is..... 2. I agree with Tiller and Famine and Tung corp 3. Pirates are pirateing to make isk they dont need to ask u how they are going to kill you. 4. Not everyone is going to waste 4 Clicks to warp in to Tackle a shuttle when they can sniper it same for frigs. 5. Pirates Kill Frigs and shuttles and Newbs ships cause sometimes they are hauling implants and skills. Ive got multiple full +3 implant sets from them. 6. Pirate make there isk by pirateing why bother risking the chance that youll have friends jump in. in a 1vs1 when he doesnt have to. 7. The only pirates considered the *good pirates* are those who are forum trolls and seem to be up here advertising there 1 good deed or some other stupid thing. 8. There are plenty of good pirates out there but people will make threads like this Constantly Because no matter how bad you kill someone they will have something to complain about u.
*Oh sure u hit me for 2,100 Im not impressed ive been killed for 2,101 before *you only killed me cause i was afk *Only thing you can kill is a hauler! ?but we blew up ur raven yesturday *My comp Glitched thats only reason u killed me
Etc Etc Etc. Dont think you need other peoples approval of how you killed them.
RIGHT on the money. Exactly. We (as in pirates) are here to make ISK, not cuddle you into a lullaby while we blast you away.
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Rheinkraft
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Posted - 2006.04.21 12:11:00 -
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Bring on the WCS stacking penalty!! 
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iCrusher
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Posted - 2006.04.23 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleeb
I guess what i`m trying to say is -10 used to mean something now it seems most people just either stab up or snipe 
The new generation of pirates need to step up and fill the old pirates boots
SoonÖ , dont you worry 
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ArtemisEntreri
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Posted - 2006.04.23 16:10:00 -
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Edited by: ArtemisEntreri on 23/04/2006 16:10:21
Originally by: Mangold There are still a few good pirates out there.
S******dly and Veto would be the ones that stand out.
The "omgletsgankatthegatewith10+BS"-pirates aren't that impressive.
since when did "omgletsgankatthegatewith10+bs" not apply to snigg?
edit spelling error
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Koba Kyogen
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Posted - 2006.04.23 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Spyres These forums are absolutely overburdened with posts decrying the playing style of others. I think it deserves only one response:
Until you pay for the subscription/s of the person or corp you are complaining about, you have no right to utter a word of complaint about their style of play, unless of course it is exploiting some aspect of the game.
What's more, all this sentimental rubbish about real, 'old' pirates and whatever else is laughable. Everything in this game is changeable and context based, so any notion of what a 'real' pirate, or 'real' pvper is will change with the game. Just because some of the more notorious pilots preferred a particular playing style, does not legitimate that style as the only correct one.
/yawn
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Psycarne
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Posted - 2006.04.23 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: ArtemisEntreri Edited by: ArtemisEntreri on 23/04/2006 16:10:21
Originally by: Mangold There are still a few good pirates out there.
S******dly and Veto would be the ones that stand out.
The "omgletsgankatthegatewith10+BS"-pirates aren't that impressive.
since when did "omgletsgankatthegatewith10+bs" not apply to snigg?
edit spelling error
In a magical fantasy world it dosen't apparantly. ------------- Order of the Wombles: Recycling those untidy modules on your ship.
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Twilight Moon
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Posted - 2006.04.23 16:42:00 -
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Oooh...this entire thread will have to go on my "OMFG...its Them...RUN!" list. 
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.04.23 16:52:00 -
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New-gen yaaaaarates == Bullies.
Old-gen pirates == /me hides under the bed. ----------------
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