That's not what CCP want, the shot callers are just stupid and think these changes will make eve more new player friendly.

That's not what CCP want, the shot callers are just stupid and think these changes will make eve more new player friendly.

The answer, of course, is yes. That's why running level 4 missions is better than running anomalies. That's why gank-protection keeps being increased. That's why scamming keeps getting nerfed, whether it's through contract changes or MOTD changes on in-game communication channels. That's why highsec's production slots are a thousand times cheaper and a thousand times more plentiful than nullsec's. That's why wardec rules keep being changed. That's why shooting TCUs is like punching your own 'nads repeatedly. That's why corporations like Ivy League Poopnuggets keep getting special exceptions made for their newbie members even though a large part of the group has been in that corporation for over six months. That's why remote repair GCC was removed. That's why highsec incursions basically spout ISK.

I could go on, but you get the point.

Eve is supposed to be a cold, harsh universe. It's looking more and more like Puppies and Hugs Online every day. Unfortunately for CCP, the main selling point of the game is being a cold harsh universe. So as it keeps switching from the category on which it built its reputation to the World of Borecraft model, people are looking at Eve more and more saying "Really? What makes your game so different that I should play it? Is it the fascinating PvE? The highsec production system? The fantastic and interactive mining system?"

I'm sorry, I couldn't keep a straight face typing that last sentence.

Anyway, my point is this: stop catering to players who are unwilling to risk things. It's really starting to make Eve just another MMO in the crowd. And it can't compete there.

The biggest way I've seen subscriptions get made is through word of mouth. Mostly it was me telling my friends that Eve was pretty sweet, and they tried it out. Some of them, like the roleplayer who still runs raids on WoW, didn't get it or didn't like it. They left. Others have stayed for years, because of the vicious struggles going on out of sight of CONCORD's ever-watching lameness. People who want an easy-mode game aren't going to stick with Eve, so don't nerf the game trying to make them like it. It won't work, and it'll ruin things for everyone else. Nay, it IS ruining things for everyone else.

I thought they wanted us to live in nullsec.

Eve is a cold harsh universe.
CCP clearly want players to have environments where they stand a decent chance of learning the game and joining groups of other players without be driven out. A new player who has everything scammed away or is repeatedly targeted for ganks before learning how to get along on their own is going to leave the game whether they would have otherwise enjoyed it or not. If eve were a happy-rainbow-pony-filled place, they wouldn't feel the need to step in.
Missions and incursions pay more in low/null than they do in high. If you think that the safety afforded by highsec allows them to be exploited to greatly, then show those running them how unsafe eve really is. You have the capability, or should. One of the ways you could use concord to do the job is gone, but then I could never get concord to attack ninja salvagers so I call it even. What is happening to stop goon sponsored blue ice interdiction or any of the other ganks for fun and profit? Nothing. It will be made less profitable, but do you think they care? If these little changes are enough to stop players from making eve a cold harsh place, and the players are the only thing even remotely harsh in this game, then it was never really all that bad to begin with. All the mechanics still exist, just a few restrictions on using them to help the game grow.

We all have the same choice here: HTFU and adapt or GTFO

Because scamming "new" players out of 500 million ISK is totally wrong and unacceptable from a business standpoint. (it isn't)

Because making ganking harder by making the best current ship choices (i.e. battleships) not usable in most circumstances is "doing nothing."

Because Eve isn't supposed to be a happy-rainbow-pony-filled place and they aren't supposed to step in BECAUSE it's not supposed to be that way.

Because the risk versus reward is horribly skewed towards highsec at the moment.
And because (some of) the players are pretty much the only thing that makes Eve a cold harsh place.

Ganking someone for the lulz is pointless. It still is possible, but Soundwave won't be holding your hands any longer.

If you want to gank someone, do it right. Patrol the choking points, organize a gang and talk with them via teamspeak.. use passive targeters, cargo scanners and ship scanners.

You'd be surprised by the amount of T1 indies carrying over 500m in goods through some of the less known choking points. I, for one, won't tell you where it is because i don't want competition (and don't bother looking at this toon battleclinic, i use an off-alliance alt)


The point is, ganks should happen to people who deserve it. It est, those who do stupid things.


EVE has had a rule since launch. It ain't griefing if you're turning a profit. Point is, for over 70% of the ganks nobody was turning any kind of profit. Don't insult my intelligence by telling me that killing a random retriever with a thrasher gave you profits. You were just being a jerk to random people.

Cold and harsh != chaotic and pointless.


Now stop crying and learn 2 play the game.

You say I'm wrong and then agree with me (like when saying highsec is more profitable than anything else)

And by god or whatever deity you do or do not hold sacred, a newbie is not someone with 500 million ISK.

Who is this CCP you keep writing about?

There's also

Couldn't Care less about the Players

but since Hilmar's message where he basically bent over and grabbed his ankles we can't use that one anymore.

That's not what CCP want, the shot callers are just stupid and think these changes will make eve more new player friendly.

Dont you think thats a tad cruel, given that CCP sure has made some lets say "non influential" decisions in the past and its affecting our future sure, but in context it is nothing more than a tactic to bring in new blood for the bloodsuckers out there and creating a meal fit for an army? I mean we all talk about how ruthless it can be and even with me playing as a carebear at the moment until I am more comfortable with a covert ops position which i am learning about ( but thats besides the point) but in short we are stating that CCP doesnt care about the players all because their priorities changed. I dont think we should be slamming the developers for doing something that might change the way the game is interpreted as. Sure the PVP content is lacking in some aspects but lets look at it from its basic foundation... Without the PvE content or as you guys call "carebears" the game would simply be one huge bloodbath and there would be no one to guide you along the path, you would be thrown into the abyss with no hopes of getting out.. Life is more than this.... "EVE" is a game nothing more, nothing less, it is not a religion, we are not going "hell" by playing the way we like... So sure we can talk about the developers and cry like whining spoiled rich children who dont get their way, but in the end do we see any of the financial reports? No.... we just see pretty words and promises in text... Instead of chastizing the developers and each other perhaps we need to just be the sitting ducks for awhile and wait to see what really happens in the next few months before starting another shitstorm. EVE is meant to be a place for everyone to do what they see it no matter what it is... its not Hilmar's fault... its not our fault... if anything the fault should lie dead with no one and just disappear. This is pointless to point the finger as in the end its only the players who are going to suffer from it.

Ganking someone for the lulz is pointless. It still is possible, but Soundwave won't be holding your hands any longer.

If you want to gank someone, do it right. Patrol the choking points, organize a gang and talk with them via teamspeak.. use passive targeters, cargo scanners and ship scanners.

You'd be surprised by the amount of T1 indies carrying over 500m in goods through some of the less known choking points. I, for one, won't tell you where it is because i don't want competition (and don't bother looking at this toon battleclinic, i use an off-alliance alt)


The point is, ganks should happen to people who deserve it. It est, those who do stupid things.


EVE has had a rule since launch. It ain't griefing if you're turning a profit. Point is, for over 70% of the ganks nobody was turning any kind of profit. Don't insult my intelligence by telling me that killing a random retriever with a thrasher gave you profits. You were just being a jerk to random people.

Cold and harsh != chaotic and pointless.


Now stop crying and learn 2 play the game.