I will keep repeating this because of the hotfix from today. If CCP can fix mechanics in the span of DAYS because incursion bears had a modicum of risk injected into their runaway ISK faucet why can't CCP fix glaring problems with mechanics in the same swoop. Case in point is logi not inheriting a session penalty for RR allowing logi to remain effectively invincible on station and star gates.

If they can do that to the aggression mechanics that fast why are people allowed to dock ships with aggro into carriers and play worthless games. It would seem the writing is on the wall as far as the fact that CCP is going to turn this game into dumbed down candy land where knowledge of mechanics is usurped by hand holding and faceted with bullshit loopholes that let the risk adverse have their cake and eat it too.

Ganking someone for the lulz is pointless. It still is possible, but Soundwave won't be holding your hands any longer.

If you want to gank someone, do it right. Patrol the choking points, organize a gang and talk with them via teamspeak.. use passive targeters, cargo scanners and ship scanners.

You'd be surprised by the amount of T1 indies carrying over 500m in goods through some of the less known choking points. I, for one, won't tell you where it is because i don't want competition (and don't bother looking at this toon battleclinic, i use an off-alliance alt)


The point is, ganks should happen to people who deserve it. It est, those who do stupid things.


EVE has had a rule since launch. It ain't griefing if you're turning a profit. Point is, for over 70% of the ganks nobody was turning any kind of profit. Don't insult my intelligence by telling me that killing a random retriever with a thrasher gave you profits. You were just being a jerk to random people.

Cold and harsh != chaotic and pointless.


Now stop crying and learn 2 play the game.

Seems that gankers are more concerned with accumulating tears then actual isk profits. Theres plenty of opportunities to both ruin someones day AND collect a nice profit, but i guess that takes too much work and patience for some people.

Carebears in highsec pay as much as you do without pissing others off ...

I'm down with this - but only if CCP increases the cost of Strip miners to about 70 or 80M each.
That way, you can gank a Hulk and make a profit. Shouldn't have to take a loss every time I kill a Hulk or Mackinaw.

Or are you trying to say that people should ONLY be ganking Haulers with huge payloads, or Officer fit CNRs?

Or is this a better way to blow up Hulks and earn a profit?

Find a miner in a Hulk.
Kill the Hulk.
Add the miner to your addressbook.
Demand a ransom. Threaten to gank them again in the future.
Miner pays, you win.
If miner doesn't pay, you use a locator agent and blow them up again, and again. Either way, you win.
Its not griefing, because all the victim has to do to stop the pain is pay you 200M or so.

Random Hulk ganking is fun.

Ganking the same miner over and over until they quit. Priceless. That is REAL PVP.

That's griefing and you can be banned for that... just saying

I'm gonna go dig up the calculations that were done about how nullsec would run out of ammo-replacement production capacity after an hour or two of a hundred-odd Maelstroms firing. And CCP wonders why nobody builds out there and everyone builds in highsec...

Please lock for no content.

You'd look cooler if you didn't post this in every thread.

Do i care how people perceive me ?

Hell no.



Do threads like this, which only repeat the same **** over and over again, deserve it ?

Hell yeah.

words

Douche

Anomalies are being buffed for Winter.
IIRC, they'll get extra value, but not spawn more often. More bang for your buck. Or is it buck for your bang?

No, its my choice to do so.

And no running lvl IVs is less profitable then belt ratting. Not to mention that for running lvl IVs you need two accounts / one in noctis. And even then is less profitable then belt ratting just for bounty.

Just my experience about how much i can make...

two accounts doing lvl IVs roughly 60-70 mil per hour at best. LP change is now 0,5 isk per LP or even less, thanks to incursions.

one account ratting in regular PvP hurricane / well - point + LSE. is round 40 mil per hour just on bounties with occasional faction drop worth 20-460 mil.

Anomalies will come back in greater number, or at least thats what i read.

Doing sanctums nets round 60 mil per hour in drake/tengu with occasional maze bookmark nets 80-1000 mil. and faction drop worth as stated above.

Maybe you should ditch your noctis and make 50M/h on one account instead of 60-70M/h on two. 40M/h on bounties in belts seems a bit steep to be sustainable with a PvP cane, but maybe you can do it if chaining (but then you don't get the faction loot). And don't forget to factor in a few random hot-drops and ganks on your cane as well as downtime when local is a little too hot for belt ratting.

lol u so dumb

I'm down with this - but only if CCP increases the cost of Strip miners to about 70 or 80M each.
That way, you can gank a Hulk and make a profit. Shouldn't have to take a loss every time I kill a Hulk or Mackinaw.

/facepalm.