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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
964
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Posted - 2014.02.26 04:46:00 -
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I was sitting in space in highsec when my mail icon flashed at the same time as some ships on my overview went red, and they started shooting at me. I check the mail, and they wardecced my alliance and were able to shoot immediately without the 24 hour notice.
How is this possible? Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
10427
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Posted - 2014.02.26 04:48:00 -
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Instant Wardec, just add water.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
1469
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Posted - 2014.02.26 05:04:00 -
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Are you sure it was a war target that killed you?
Looking at your war history your only in one war, and according to the war report there has been no kills or losses yet. That can be bugged tho. Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
964
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Posted - 2014.02.26 05:06:00 -
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NightCrawler 85 wrote:Are you sure it was a war target that killed you?
Looking at your war history your only in one war, and according to the war report there has been no kills or losses yet. That can be bugged tho. I never said they destroyed my ship. They didn't. I did have to dock up, and yes it was war targets shooting me. They had the red star icon on the overview. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |

NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
1469
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Posted - 2014.02.26 05:19:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:NightCrawler 85 wrote:Are you sure it was a war target that killed you?
Looking at your war history your only in one war, and according to the war report there has been no kills or losses yet. That can be bugged tho. I never said they destroyed my ship. They didn't. I did have to dock up, and yes it was war targets shooting me. They had the red star icon on the overview.
Well if it was the new war targets then you might want to petition it because the war should not have gone live instantly so it must be some sort of strange bug.
Not much else you can do sadly 
Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
620
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Posted - 2014.02.26 05:24:00 -
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i got war dec just few days ago it said something like "bla bla bla and if one of you join alliance war start immediately" or something along those lines.... http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
1469
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Posted - 2014.02.26 05:29:00 -
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Mina Sebiestar wrote:i got war dec just few days ago it said something like "bla bla bla and if one of you join alliance war start immediately" or something along those lines....
Checked for things like that. Been in the alliance for a while, been in the corp for a while so thats not it 
Yea i will admit im curious my self now 
Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Graabeerd Khagah
ImaNicePirate.com Ideal Society
105
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Posted - 2014.02.26 05:37:00 -
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I too have wondered about the 24 hour time before a war dec goes into effect. And then again I have always thought if you got wardecced it should be immediate, not dragging on like it does. My line of thought on this that instead of waiting around that if you or I were wardecced, then we should have the rights to immediately engage the war deccing corp. or alliance But as it stands now a 24 waiting period is..well...required.
That's plenty of time for a corp/alliance to disband and reorganize under a different name/banner. Just for my corp alone I can't afford the price to actually war dec anyone and I can care less, BUT in the same process due to the size of my corp alone would hardly be worth the costs involved. |

NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
1469
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Posted - 2014.02.26 05:52:00 -
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Graabeerd Khagah wrote:I too have wondered about the 24 hour time before a war dec goes into effect. And then again I have always thought if you got wardecced it should be immediate, not dragging on like it does. My line of thought on this that instead of waiting around that if you or I were wardecced, then we should have the rights to immediately engage the war deccing corp. or alliance But as it stands now a 24 waiting period is..well...required. That's plenty of time for a corp/alliance to disband and reorganize under a different name/banner. Just for my corp alone I can't afford the price to actually war dec anyone and I can care less, BUT in the same process due to the size of my corp alone would hardly be worth the costs involved. 
The timer allows time to prepare so (at least for me) it makes sense.
Besides i think that they changed it so that now you cant join an alliance if your in a war? And even if you leave an alliance the war follows you so disbanding the alliance does little to get away from the war.
Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
798
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Posted - 2014.02.26 05:58:00 -
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Graabeerd Khagah wrote:I too have wondered about the 24 hour time before a war dec goes into effect. And then again I have always thought if you got wardecced it should be immediate, not dragging on like it does. My line of thought on this that instead of waiting around that if you or I were wardecced, then we should have the rights to immediately engage the war deccing corp. or alliance But as it stands now a 24 waiting period is..well...required. That's plenty of time for a corp/alliance to disband and reorganize under a different name/banner. Just for my corp alone I can't afford the price to actually war dec anyone and I can care less, BUT in the same process due to the size of my corp alone would hardly be worth the costs involved. 
If we had instant wardecs we could get rid of concord and wardecs. Both are superflous at that point.
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Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse Cannibal Empire
3292
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Posted - 2014.02.26 06:09:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:I was sitting in space in highsec when my mail icon flashed at the same time as some ships on my overview went red, and they started shooting at me. I check the mail, and they wardecced my alliance and were able to shoot immediately without the 24 hour notice.
How is this possible?
If a corp that is at war (Defender) join an alliance. The war is instantly transferred to the entire alliance. No 24 hour wait. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS |

Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
964
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Posted - 2014.02.26 06:14:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:If a corp that is at war (Defender) join an alliance. The war is instantly transferred to the entire alliance. No 24 hour wait. How do I check if a corp joined my alliance? Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |

Django Askulf
Black Rebel Death Squad GekkoState.
7
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Posted - 2014.02.26 06:19:00 -
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http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Test_Alliance_Please_Ignore/events ? |

Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
451
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Posted - 2014.02.26 06:20:00 -
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NightCrawler 85 wrote:Are you sure it was a war target that killed you?
Looking at your war history your only in one war, and according to the war report there has been no kills or losses yet. That can be bugged tho.
If it was red it was a pirate. Flashy orange is a war target. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2805
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Posted - 2014.02.26 06:23:00 -
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Not sure if we're being elaborately trolled, or if the stars aligned against the OP for some obscure mechanic interaction. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
451
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Posted - 2014.02.26 06:29:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Not sure if we're being elaborately trolled, or if the stars aligned against the OP for some obscure mechanic interaction.
I'm going with troll. After a look at some killboards. The last loss he shows is back on 2013-10-24 in Dodixie. |

Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
964
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Posted - 2014.02.26 06:45:00 -
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04:34 Corporation Dark Mason Society has joined alliance Test Alliance Please Ignore
The Marmite Collective Declares War Against Test Alliance Please Ignore From: CONCORD Sent: 2014.02.26 04:34
The Marmite Collective has declared war on Test Alliance Please Ignore. Fighting can legally occur between those involved.
That explains it then. They shot me when Dark Mason Society joined TEST. I just happened to be the one outside Amarr station when it happened. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |

Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
964
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Posted - 2014.02.26 06:49:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:If it was red it was a pirate. Flashy orange is a war target. Flashy orange is opposing faction militia. Pirates are red skull, war targets are red star. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2805
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Posted - 2014.02.26 07:00:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:04:34 Corporation Dark Mason Society has joined alliance Test Alliance Please Ignore
The Marmite Collective Declares War Against Test Alliance Please Ignore From: CONCORD Sent: 2014.02.26 04:34
The Marmite Collective has declared war on Test Alliance Please Ignore. Fighting can legally occur between those involved.
That explains it then. They shot me when Dark Mason Society joined TEST. I just happened to be the one outside Amarr station when it happened.
Ah, Amarr. The birthplace of station fuckery. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Lyelle Wolf
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.02.26 09:01:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Not sure if we're being elaborately trolled, or if the stars aligned against the OP for some obscure mechanic interaction. I'm going with troll. After a look at some killboards. The last loss he shows is back on 2013-10-24 in Dodixie.
Again, OP never stated that he lost his ship and even stated in a later post, about two or three down, that they never killed him.
//LW |

Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
107
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Posted - 2014.02.26 11:51:00 -
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Lyelle Wolf wrote:Caviar Liberta wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Not sure if we're being elaborately trolled, or if the stars aligned against the OP for some obscure mechanic interaction. I'm going with troll. After a look at some killboards. The last loss he shows is back on 2013-10-24 in Dodixie. Again, OP never stated that he lost his ship and even stated in a later post, about two or three down, that they never killed him. //LW
OP is clearly an informed source, though, judging by the fact his corporation join TEST and he wasn't even smart enough to track that happening. |

Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
529
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Posted - 2014.02.26 12:29:00 -
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This shouldn't actually happen when you're in space, no?
Usually, when a person joins a corp in space with a WT right next to him, the WT doesn't even see them as flashy red and that's petitionable. Now you say you where in space and they suddenly turned into WTs, without you going through a session change. Sounds rather weird to me...
- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You are at it from day 0! |

Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
549
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Posted - 2014.02.26 13:57:00 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:This shouldn't actually happen when you're in space, no?
Usually, when a person joins a corp in space with a WT right next to him, the WT doesn't even see them as flashy red and that's petitionable. Now you say you where in space and they suddenly turned into WTs, without you going through a session change. Sounds rather weird to me... You cant join a corp while in space, you have to dock to accept the final part of the application.
As for instant wardecs; When a corp joins an alliance while said corp is at war no message regarding the war is sent out to the alliance. 24 hours after joining the alliance the corporation will actually transfer into the alliance upon which the wardec instantly becomes active and a mail is sent out.
Coreli Corporation: Small gang PVP & Drug Production, Apply now! |

E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
500
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Posted - 2014.02.26 14:06:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:I was sitting in space in highsec when my mail icon flashed at the same time as some ships on my overview went red, and they started shooting at me. I check the mail, and they wardecced my alliance and were able to shoot immediately without the 24 hour notice.
How is this possible? Could have been a corp joined and you inherited their wardec? I am not that familar with wardec mechanics. |

Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
49
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Posted - 2014.02.26 14:47:00 -
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Graabeerd Khagah wrote:I too have wondered about the 24 hour time before a war dec goes into effect. And then again I have always thought if you got wardecced it should be immediate, not dragging on like it does. My line of thought on this that instead of waiting around that if you or I were wardecced, then we should have the rights to immediately engage the war deccing corp. or alliance But as it stands now a 24 waiting period is..well...required. That's plenty of time for a corp/alliance to disband and reorganize under a different name/banner. Just for my corp alone I can't afford the price to actually war dec anyone and I can care less, BUT in the same process due to the size of my corp alone would hardly be worth the costs involved. 
If there was instant war decs it would become highly abused and there would be a lot more people in npc corps
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mine" -Dr. Smith |

Batelle
HOMELE55
1914
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Posted - 2014.02.26 14:50:00 -
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And no one in TEST knew the answer to this? "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3885
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Posted - 2014.02.26 16:03:00 -
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So I can find a blingy ship running a mission, come alongside him with a few buddies, then if the conditions are right, dec him immediately and blow him up?
Neat! See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Batelle
HOMELE55
1917
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Posted - 2014.02.26 16:30:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:So I can find a blingy ship running a mission, come alongside him with a few buddies, then if the conditions are right, dec him immediately and blow him up?
Neat!
I wouldn't rely on every alliance leadership to be as good as TEST's. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Gregor Parud
261
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Posted - 2014.02.26 16:40:00 -
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People keep missing the FACTS the OP himself realised and verified in this thread;
A corp that was already wardecced joined his alliance and such the alliance as a whole was instantly pulled into that war. |

Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance
127
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Posted - 2014.02.26 16:56:00 -
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The color of flashy ships [WT, suspect etc] is dependent on your Overview settings... http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb |
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