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Broken Bear
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Posted - 2006.04.18 07:18:00 -
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i've read a lot of vague remarks about m0o in the forums lately. so who are/were these guys? just looking for a bit of info or some thread links i might have missed. much thanks!
general consensus from what i've read m0o = 
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.04.18 07:20:00 -
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They were pirate corp. Helped shape what eve is today. Go back to the begining of these forums and you'll find a ton of threads about them. The closed down perhaps a year ago.
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Fabster
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Posted - 2006.04.18 07:21:00 -
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Old feared pirate corp in the early days.
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Sevarus James
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Posted - 2006.04.18 07:25:00 -
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That question made me feel verry.......veryyyy old.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.04.18 07:26:00 -
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I remember Eve empire space as much more exciting when those guys were around. Always fun with pirates that have a reputation.
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Mned Graydroggen
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Posted - 2006.04.18 08:48:00 -
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First and only player terror squad. Kill on sight for all who wherent in corp.
After beeing evicted from empire they eventualy turned to alliance bashing and where masters of the craft.
The name insipred fear in any local it appeared once. Now they seem dormant,
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.18 08:50:00 -
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They were also the only player corp in the entire game to be incorporated into an agent's talktree.
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Exelsior
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Posted - 2006.04.18 09:29:00 -
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 Originally by: Dark Shikari
They were also the only player corp in the entire game to be incorporated into an agent's talktree.
Yep, that's pretty amazing tbh, nice tribute.
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2006.04.18 09:31:00 -
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MoO...Band of pirates.
I meet them while in Period Basis, when CFS was still existing.
I was part of DSMA at that time...Old times :p
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Chain Gang
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Posted - 2006.04.18 09:34:00 -
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Old and buried .......
A pirate corp in the easy days of Eve, when the game was fun.
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Thryr Merim
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Posted - 2006.04.18 09:35:00 -
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Most of us m0o guys still play the game, many are in Band of Brothers, like myself ... many others are in Finite Horizon, incidentally the pvp corp with most averate skillpoints ingame (EON spoiler  )
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Flyyn
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Posted - 2006.04.18 11:34:00 -
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Edited by: Flyyn on 18/04/2006 11:35:07
m0o gave the true meaning to the word "griefing" They are the ones that have made the following...
1. Gate Camping...
2. Sentry guns...
3. Unbeatable Concord...
4. Concord Swat...
And many many more...Before their crap I was able to be a true pirate...Now reduced to slight of hand tricks to get, folks to pay up....
EDIT: (just for fun) Oh and most are or were the alts of the DEV's and GM's
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.04.18 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Thryr Merim
Most of us m0o guys still play the game, many are in Band of Brothers, like myself ... many others are in Finite Horizon, incidentally the pvp corp with most averate skillpoints ingame (EON spoiler )
BOB resets everyone to neutral and goes on a killing spree across eve - MOO has return with a titan this time. BOB is the new MOO long live the new uber pirates
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Chain Gang
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Posted - 2006.04.18 12:02:00 -
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Most of us m0o guys still play the game, many are in Band of Brothers, like myself ... many others are in Finite Horizon, incidentally the pvp corp with most averate skillpoints ingame (EON spoiler )
No I think the orginal M0o before version 57 when they let everyone in.
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.04.18 12:05:00 -
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ok then goonfleet - they have the potnetial to get up and start roaming around.
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2006.04.18 12:08:00 -
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m0o are a legend (and yes, that is the correct spelling)
As for who is like m0o now? no-one. They are inimitable.
Oh, and you can find ex-members in most of the top corps in eve, not just the pvp ones either 
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VaNessa Oney
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Posted - 2006.04.18 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Chain Gang
No I think the orginal M0o before version 57 when they let everyone in.
And next time when you wonder what you have done to deserve the ganking, think back to this post. 
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.04.18 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Omber Zombie
m0o are a legend (and yes, that is the correct spelling)
As for who is like m0o now? no-one. They are inimitable.
Oh, and you can find ex-members in most of the top corps in eve, not just the pvp ones either
m0o was evil. OZ was in m0o. He is evil.
True story.
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.04.18 12:45:00 -
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ebil ebil ebil
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2006.04.18 12:49:00 -
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A lot of the people in m0o were ok, a lot of them were exploiters, greiferes etc. Unfortunately the game was very new, so they got away with a lot of what they did. Main reason they can't be imitated is that people would be banned if they did the same thing today. 
Somehow I find it typical that one of the most (in)famous corporations in EVE's history has (had) such a silly name. 
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MarkyP
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Posted - 2006.04.18 13:09:00 -
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M0o were indeed the original "Bad Boys" on tranquility. Being the long term gamer that I am, along with most others in that grouping, some of my earliest "Gankings" were at the hands of m0o members.
Still thinking back to late summer 2003, jumping through a stargate to 0.4 space and having my Bestower locked and blitzed before I could even do anything about it. If I remember correctly, this was around the time of the "Mines" sploit that reduced framerates for the victims to 1 per minute as well.
These guys were'nt in the business of getting involved in fights they could possibly lose, they stacked the odds massively in their own favour, and then stacked them a bit more just in case.
That being said, for what is one of *THE* most paranoid filled MMORPG's, most of my paranoia habits were drilled into me from m0o encounters. Those who paid no heed, lost ships. Simple as that.
As someone else noted, there will never be another m0o, as any imitators would no doubt be sploit banned. In their defence however, most of what they done was just pushing the absolute boundary limit of what you could and could not do in game, at a time when there were no real "rules" as such. The greatest irony is that their legacy is a slightly less lawless space.
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Somehow I find it typical that one of the most (in)famous corporations in EVE's history has (had) such a silly name.
Indeed, and if I remember correctly from the posts on the board from a few years back, I think it stood for "Masters 0f (P?)Ownage".
Shame they have disbanded. I might never get the chance now to enact my long burning revenge. ;)
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Brunis
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Posted - 2006.04.18 13:39:00 -
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It stands for masters of ownage yes. Dont like the name but like the tricker 
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.04.18 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: MarkyP
Indeed, and if I remember correctly from the posts on the board from a few years back, I think it stood for "Masters 0f (P?)Ownage".
and becasue 'm0p' would have been a rubbish ticker.
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Liisa
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Posted - 2006.04.18 13:53:00 -
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The list of exploits that corp is so long that it would probably need multiple posts just to cover the basics.
What made them legendary was their willingness to use them, along with the general ruthlessness they had.
Indeed, they probably are the ones who made present day eve more idiot friendly than it was back then.
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dazedandconfused
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Posted - 2006.04.18 13:56:00 -
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Old rat corp.
I remember getting podded over and over by Lord Zapp, fun times
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2006.04.18 13:56:00 -
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masters of ownage is a bit silly, but the part that annoys me is m0o, because it's the sound cows make.. and cows are really dumb animals.
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.04.18 13:59:00 -
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Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 18/04/2006 13:59:32
m0o Art
When I was bored I would do art for them... These were done the months before they broke up and went dormant.
They were actually a good lot of folk that were more mature then the people they would kill believe it or not.
Originally by: "Oveur"
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delta2zero
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Posted - 2006.04.18 14:04:00 -
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Edited by: delta2zero on 18/04/2006 14:05:28
they were masters of finding exploits and overpowered mods.
when a laser heatsink was stupidly overpowered they all had them and could totally pwn other people in seconds.
they were first to know of the grid exploit aswell :@ i got an apoc replaced because of that one lol.
they were a bunch of good pvpers though and caused complete mayhem.
sentry guns were put at gates because of them , concord were made more powerful because of them ,they camped a gate in mara at one point and killed thousands of people a day ,devs got annoyed and took a bunch of uber BS down to kill them 
i think mo0 managed to kill one of those BS aswell.
they were better when they were a small bunch of guys from beta ,there corp kinda went downhill when they started to let alot of people in.
stavr0s was my favorite member of mo0 his smack talk in local always made me laugh
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.04.18 14:08:00 -
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They were also the originator of the invite_a_nub_to_gang_and_warp_to_pwn them too iirc.
Originally by: "Oveur"
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MarkyP
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Posted - 2006.04.18 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Usul Faust
and becasue 'm0p' would have been a rubbish ticker.
Goes to show how long ago it was though. Back then "Pwnage" was spelled with an "O"!!!!
I dunno about the ticker though, m0p Corp sounds pretty cool.
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Lord Slater
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Posted - 2006.04.18 14:20:00 -
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Moo were the ones who introduced sentry gate turrets to 0.4 - 0.1
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.04.18 14:34:00 -
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Edited by: Kurren on 18/04/2006 14:35:22
They once invited a guy into corp. Asked to check his Raven's set-up and stole the Raven from him... podded him... and then kicked him from the corp.
I've met people in Eve much worse than any mOo. Simply because they weren't around in Beta doesn't make them any less dangerous.
mOo was just a bunch of 'sploiters. Of course, sploit all you want... if you kick the crap of the Shattered Star Confederation (then in the Fountain Alliance) you're as cool as you can be with me! That corp was the worsed mistake I ever made...
edit- I also think mOo alts go around asking who mOo was just to hear about themselves =P
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Athren Soulsteal
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Posted - 2006.04.18 14:38:00 -
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so they got away with a lot of what they did. Main reason they can't be imitated is that people would be banned if they did the same thing today.
MOo used ever exploit you can imagine because ôthey couldö.
MOo had broken every law in the game so that most were -10 by the third month. This meant that they would rampage through 1.0 space slaughtering everyone and concord would not respond. Back then when you were at -10 you could not take a sec hit so if you podded 50 noobs it didnÆt matter or flag the police, once you at the bottom of the barrel there is no place else to go.
MOo were the laziest bunch of lamers ever see in a game, ruined EVE by switching the focus from Corp wars and team play by embedding the idea ôwhy work for any thing when CCP will provide everything to meö yes CCP was in trouble at that time so instead of nipping this in the bud they rewarded MOo by starting the Prat welfare program. You have to keep in mind that we are talking about a group that were billionaires 1 month into the game using such exploits as that ôtrist insurance bugö. so while most people playing EVE as advertised they were in BS rampaging through systems on killing sprees. They were at ôend gameö status so had nothing better to do but make life miserable ôbecause they couldö.
MOo and the ensuing Grifer bears not the so called ôcare bearsö are the reasons you have guns and guards at the gates, 0 tolerance from concord, etcà. Every modification such as a timer on jettison a can, nerf from the amount of drones you can control, well actually almost everything to can imagine was a response to MOo and the following ilk.
The ruined the game, not so much for what they did but because they forced the dev team focus on Prats. Think of it this way, all of you have been to the grocery store and seen that mom trying shop while that bratty kid is throwing a fit thus forcing mom to take the focus away from her task. Well with the upcoming Kali patch we will finally have where EVE was headed before MOo derailed the train.
Next time you are in public and see a bratty kid throwing a fit and acting badly (because he can) demanding they should have things their way, that is MOo and most of the games Griefers.
They should have been Banned the first time they bragged to a GM (and showed the GM the exploit) instead, like the mom that gives in, they were rewarded. Luckily I live in a state that allows spanking in public, so you will only see bratty kids act up once. The funny part is that when we have been in other states we have actually had strangers come up and complement us on how well mannered our kids are. I tell them thatÆs because our kids understand the risk of misbehaving. Risk vrs reward is a universal ideal to bad its no longer implemented in EVE.
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Psyrex
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Posted - 2006.04.18 14:50:00 -
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Ah m0o, now thatÆs a ticker IÆve not heard of in a long time.
The days where they all came into empire space to defend a World Event Character against all the Minmatar that were sitting around with twitchy trigger fingers.
They definitely helped shape the world of Eve.
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Tekka
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Posted - 2006.04.18 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
masters of ownage is a bit silly, but the part that annoys me is m0o, because it's the sound cows make.. and cows are really dumb animals.
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Aziza
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Posted - 2006.04.18 15:07:00 -
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mOo is no more. It's a pathetic history of Eve with 5k players. So, who cares?
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.04.18 15:29:00 -
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m0o was actually their Counter-Strike clan name. They aren't just famous in EVE-Online. If you don't know where m0o came from... well now you do.
Originally by: "Oveur"
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.04.18 15:40:00 -
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moo are dead, who would want to imitate that?
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.18 16:08:00 -
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A corp that included a lot of "exploiters" and "griefers" wnen the game had 800-3000 people online.
To get somewhere by cheating doesn't mean you ebil, just means your losers.
When they goin got tough and they had to play by the rules they quit.
Eves better off without the bad apples....
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2006.04.18 16:10:00 -
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m0o were the original cool.
as for them exploiting, search up older threads where that has been discussed, I cba to repeat it all.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2006.04.18 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Athren Soulsteal
MOo were the laziest bunch of lamers ever see in a game, ruined EVE by switching the focus from Corp wars and team play by embedding the idea ôwhy work for any thing when CCP will provide everything to meö yes CCP was in trouble at that time so instead of nipping this in the bud they rewarded MOo by starting the Prat welfare program. You have to keep in mind that we are talking about a group that were billionaires 1 month into the game using such exploits as that ôtrist insurance bugö. so while most people playing EVE as advertised they were in BS rampaging through systems on killing sprees. They were at ôend gameö status so had nothing better to do but make life miserable ôbecause they couldö.
Most of this is wrong.
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nails
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Posted - 2006.04.18 16:19:00 -
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<3 m0o 4evar!
m0o1
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R Dan
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Posted - 2006.04.18 16:27:00 -
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m0o were about when i first started eve (when we were excited that 7500 people were on at once), so i dont remember them all that well - was too busy being nooby for the most part....didnt they have ties to c0w as well?
I do know that they ended up fighting each other for a bit but i thought to start with c0w was like a training corp or something?
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Riddari
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Posted - 2006.04.18 16:38:00 -
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A list of and link to several videos from m0o in this thread. Worth a watch.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.04.18 16:41:00 -
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m0o...
...had the first battleship in EVE (Dominix)
...had the first battleship kill in EVE (Scorpion)
...put up a blockade in Mara/Passari that now has become legendary
...were once attacked by devs in CONCORD battleships, to clear them out
...destroyed the Gold Magnate
...got the first Imperial Issue Apocalypse kill
...sold a region to Techell
...roamed around pretty much uncontested for a while
...and, the coup de grace...
...probably sold more ships in the beginning of the game than most (or was that just Stavros?)
I used to love to hate them.
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fisho
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Posted - 2006.04.18 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
A lot of the people in m0o were ok, a lot of them were exploiters, greiferes etc. Unfortunately the game was very new, so they got away with a lot of what they did. Main reason they can't be imitated is that people would be banned if they did the same thing today.
Somehow I find it typical that one of the most (in)famous corporations in EVE's history has (had) such a silly name.
Bull****
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Malena
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Posted - 2006.04.18 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Athren Soulsteal
MOo were the laziest bunch of lamers ever see in a game, ruined EVE by switching the focus from Corp wars and team play by embedding the idea ôwhy work for any thing when CCP will provide everything to meö yes CCP was in trouble at that time so instead of nipping this in the bud they rewarded MOo by starting the Prat welfare program. You have to keep in mind that we are talking about a group that were billionaires 1 month into the game using such exploits as that ôtrist insurance bugö. so while most people playing EVE as advertised they were in BS rampaging through systems on killing sprees. They were at ôend gameö status so had nothing better to do but make life miserable ôbecause they couldö.
Most of this is wrong.
How is opinion wrong? Not saying I agree one way or the other, I was active at the time, but I was still struggling in my probe to be able to afford a hoarder so that I could eventually work up to a rupture. (Pretty sad that I consider a rupture somewhat "disposable" now.)
How about your version to back it up? Yes, I have watched the videos, but they don't seem to address the part you state is wrong.
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Posted - 2006.04.18 17:37:00 -
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m0o was actually their Counter-Strike clan name.
Says a bit about the way they used to behave.
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Sphalerite
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Posted - 2006.04.18 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: MarkyP
These guys were'nt in the business of getting involved in fights they could possibly lose, they stacked the odds massively in their own favour, and then stacked them a bit more just in case.
I remember being in a fleet of 30+ cruisers and a couple battleships going to go fight 6-7 m0o battleships in HED. We still managed to lose terribly.
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Shame they have disbanded. I might never get the chance now to enact my long burning revenge. ;)
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Posted - 2006.04.18 20:39:00 -
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Hahaha, so many abused nublars in this thread. Half of the claims here are utter bullcrap. Wrote up something long but I'd rather not argue with the likes of Wrangler and Bhaal about the stupidity of morality in online gaming.
Maybe one day, someone will get a hold of Stav and make him talk. m0o didn't build a rep over exploiting, they did it by slapping everyone mercilessly without regard for their feelings (and being the first to do everything ofc). Until then, flame on lamers :p
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.18 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Hahaha, so many abused nublars in this thread. Half of the claims here are utter bullcrap. Wrote up something long but I'd rather not argue with the likes of Wrangler and Bhaal about the stupidity of morality in online gaming.
Maybe one day, someone will get a hold of Stav and make him talk. m0o didn't build a rep over exploiting, they did it by slapping everyone mercilessly without regard for their feelings (and being the first to do everything ofc). Until then, flame on lamers :p
Glorify them if you must, but they were mostly players who tried to find ways to cheat.
At least in the very early days, they seemed to fill up with nubs later on, wanna-be bad guys if you will...
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.04.18 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Bentguru
Few corrections:
No, m0o did not have the 1st battleship. One of the corps that routinely fought against them had it... honestly the name slips my mind atm.
Oh, yeah...Cornexant, I think.
j0rt's Dominix followed it pretty closely, as I recall. But yes, Cornexant were first.
I also remember m0o losing two Domis (Ywev and j0rt, iircc) to RUS's two Armageddons. First time more than one BS was destroyed?
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MarkyP
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Posted - 2006.04.18 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sphalerite[:roll:
I remember being in a fleet of 30+ cruisers and a couple battleships going to go fight 6-7 m0o battleships in HED. We still managed to lose terribly.
That may well of been your experience. Mine however, along with a *LOT* of other relatively innocent pilots experience, was multiple battleships tanking each other whilst taking out industrial ships. And to make sure the advantage was complete, frigged the game mechanics by lagging the victims load time using mines.
Guess its a YMMV issue, hence the many posts on the subject.
And BTW, about your offer, its actually THANKS to the exeriences I had with m0o operations that I tend to generally avoid the whole business of people "relieving" me of my ships. Lessons hard learnt, but learnt all the same
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
Glorify them if you must, but they were mostly players who tried to find ways to cheat.
Not glorifying anything, CCP did plenty of that. m0o didn't exist to cheat, or because of cheating and thats the simple truth.
Until everyone who played EVE during those times quits or dies you won't succeed in rewriting history. Sorry, nice try
But you can start by explaining in detail how many m0o members were banned, and why if you like!
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Tbone
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:11:00 -
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Lots of bitter people in this thread. Hell before I joined m0o, they scored my first BS loss. (thank you fairlane, omni, miz, and doctorstrangelove ) I was never bitter at them. They were good at what they did. I got the chance to join them and never turned back. They were honestly some of the best guys i ever met, and still chat to the ones i see, not in my corp.
As what thryr said, most are in BoB or FZN. Some others are in other corps. Some of the oldies are long gone now.
I may be mistaken, but if I rem right, Ywev did something of importance too. Cant rem exactly. 
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nails
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:25:00 -
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I like to remember Stavros more as a big anime fan. His favorite series were Sailor Moon and Princess Tu Tu.
(just kidding)
He is an anime fan though :)
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Pothead Eve
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:26:00 -
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Ywev podded himself or killed his own ship, or something like that, me thinks. others had to bring him a new one and he was the joke of the month, if i remember right...
but then again, its ages ago
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Tbone
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Pothead Eve
Ywev podded himself or killed his own ship, or something like that, me thinks. others had to bring him a new one and he was the joke of the month, if i remember right...
but then again, its ages ago
Ywev was and still is a nublar though.
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Sochin
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Posted - 2006.04.18 22:11:00 -
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All this "m0o were lame exploiters" is just people we owned trying to rationalize it.
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.18 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Bhaal
Glorify them if you must, but they were mostly players who tried to find ways to cheat.
Not glorifying anything, CCP did plenty of that. m0o didn't exist to cheat, or because of cheating and thats the simple truth.
Until everyone who played EVE during those times quits or dies you won't succeed in rewriting history. Sorry, nice try
But you can start by explaining in detail how many m0o members were banned, and why if you like!
I honestly don't care, as it seems all the real ****heads have moved on to cheat in other MMO's...
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Posted - 2006.04.18 22:16:00 -
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more cowbell
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Posted - 2006.04.18 22:19:00 -
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m0o are the original Eve legends even bigger than TankCEO and Jade rolled into one...
Bosie.
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Posted - 2006.04.18 22:52:00 -
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There be cows in the fields carrying guns.
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Posted - 2006.04.18 22:55:00 -
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This thread really takes me back.
Those guys were so bad you really had to love them
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2006.04.18 23:10:00 -
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man this thread makes me feel old...
anyway, AFAIK:
- m0o became infamous for camping Mara, and killing everybody, which forced GM's to jump into CONCORD battleships and kill them (m0o had cruisers).
- in beta, m0o were not in TAOSP, TAOSP = Evolution
- Ywev became a celebrity by podding a GM (first one to do so) and looting his corpse. They teleported him to Polaris space or some such and demanded corpse back. Quite amusing to read about it on forums =)
- The guy that podded himself with torps was sutty. I am sure he was not the only one, I managed that one myself once
- The talk about "creating lag" was created because after killing 100 ppl in Mara or some such, there were cans everywhere. Since we all know that nubs in every game since internet are quite creative when it comes to crying "HAX!", the crap kinda stuck. Now consider that m0o were never banned, and I am sure as hell they are the most petitioned corp out there. 1+1=54?
Just cool bunch, hehe, must have been a blast to be in early m0o
Funny how some nubs are still crying about m0o, what, 1 year since they disbanded?
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.04.18 23:12:00 -
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i was a m0o member after their hayday when they invaded fa.
ofc they were very active and very efficient killers before that. stavros and some one else once charged me 80k to go through a gate on my very first day in eve.
when i was a member had alot of fun with twd sass and zap as well as tibor and some other nasties.
was a very fun month when i was m0o.
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Shiner BockBeer
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Posted - 2006.04.18 23:31:00 -
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m0o were a bunch of stand-up players.
You knew exactly what you would get from them. You knew exactly what they stood for. And they made this game a better place.
They podded me twice in the early days and I don't hold any grudges.
As for the name..
Hold up your right hand, back facing away from you.
Make a fist.
Extend your middle finger.
Compare with m0o ticker name.
Notice stylistic similarity.
Chortle quietly to yourself.
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nails
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Posted - 2006.04.19 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: Luc Boye
- Ywev became a celebrity by podding a GM (first one to do so) and looting his corpse. They teleported him to Polaris space or some such and demanded corpse back. Quite amusing to read about it on forums =)
I still have the pics of this. (as I'm sure many other do as well).
Originally by: Luc Boye
- The talk about "creating lag" was created because after killing 100 ppl in Mara or some such, there were cans everywhere. Since we all know that nubs in every game since internet are quite creative when it comes to crying "HAX!", the crap kinda stuck. Now consider that m0o were never banned, and I am sure as hell they are the most petitioned corp out there. 1+1=54?
I have pics of this as well.. Gate cans loaded instant for me, but that's just cause I had a $600 video card back then.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 00:44:00 -
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Didn't Sutty pod himself by fighting in a Raven, boarding the ship of the guy he was fighting, eat his own torps and watch his Raven sail away at full speed or am i getting someone else mixed up with that one? |
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Posted - 2006.04.19 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
I honestly don't care, as it seems all the real ****heads have moved on to cheat in other MMO's...
Oh but you do care, and all your posts reek of sweaty effort. You're like a fat kid with pie crust on his face trying to repeatedly deny eating it. Well I know your dirty little secret WD, you love m0o. You wish you were m0o. The whole of EVE has adopted m0o style tactics and policies, including you, but you keep denying their sheer awesomeness as if you'd have to admit they were right and you were wrong.
Btw, here is a hint so read carefully or you will miss it; if you can't prove m0o cheated in EVE, what makes you think you know anything of their activities in other games? The whole of m0o combined does not deserve a ban as much as you do for Ebaying your original character, and ignoring the very simple .advice you were given by the citizens of this fine game.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 00:55:00 -
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Yeah, Cornexant was it. I remember because there was a thread about a fight where m0o retreated when it showed up.
Also i'm pretty sure a few m0o members were in TAOSP, I know for a fact that there were many evolution members in it, but that was in beta. TAOSP split up and it's members went into many corps after launch.
Mainly, other than a dim memory about it, i'm pretty sure because we beta testers had a massive advantage over people who weren't in beta in the first week of the game (read: mining massive amounts of ark in .4 systems), and m0o would have had to have taken advantage of that to get their equipement so quickly. Especially since everything was expensive as hell back then, you think we have a bottleneck now? Shoulda seen it when thorax's were going for over 20mil...
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Posted - 2006.04.19 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
A lot of the people in m0o were ok, a lot of them were exploiters, greiferes etc. Unfortunately the game was very new, so they got away with a lot of what they did. Main reason they can't be imitated is that people would be banned if they did the same thing today.
Somehow I find it typical that one of the most (in)famous corporations in EVE's history has (had) such a silly name.
*self edited*
Using a flawed game mechanic is not cheating until the GMs or devs say it is.
Who are you to judge their actions and make such accusations?
If you want to say stuff like that, use a normal character.
*self edited*
There are times for alt posts, and that was one of them.
They had a very good understanding of exactly how the game mechanics worked, clearly much better than the devs at times, and they used that to their advantage.
Until you are told that using a tactic is exploiting, it is completely legitimate.
The reason they can't be imitated is not because people would be banned now, but because their actions lead to important modifications and fixes to the game mechanics. If anything, love them or hate them, m0o saved Eve by pointing out how easy it would be to destroy any balance that was thought to exist.
I'm shocked at you Wranglypoos, seriously.
Very, very, not cool post.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
They were also the only player corp in the entire game to be incorporated into an agent's talktree.
Which agent type? I ***** mission a good bit and I don't think I've seen m0o mentioned in one...
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined.
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D'onryu Shoqui
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Posted - 2006.04.19 00:59:00 -
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lol @ the guy seeing moo didnt try to cheat, what was all those cans in mara for that time
moo tried to make out they were loot cans but nearly all of them contained 1trit
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Posted - 2006.04.19 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 19/04/2006 01:03:03
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Omber Zombie
m0o are a legend (and yes, that is the correct spelling)
As for who is like m0o now? no-one. They are inimitable.
Oh, and you can find ex-members in most of the top corps in eve, not just the pvp ones either
m0o was evil. OZ was in m0o. He is evil.
True story.
But look at that sad puppy dog face OZ makes...
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 18/04/2006 13:59:32
m0o Art
http://gametek.us/m0ocorp/gallery/m0o10.jpg
That one rules.
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Omber Zombie
m0o are a legend (and yes, that is the correct spelling)
As for who is like m0o now? no-one. They are inimitable.
Oh, and you can find ex-members in most of the top corps in eve, not just the pvp ones either
For some reason I can't picture you yelling "Kill the ******* miner".
Oh how things change.
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.04.19 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui
lol @ the guy seeing moo didnt try to cheat, what was all those cans in mara for that time
moo tried to make out they were loot cans but nearly all of them contained 1trit
... but it wasn't cheating until it was declared as such.
Lag traps continued long after that. Hell, I remember using them until it was declared cheating.
(That tactic was also responsible for the timer on creating jet-cans - a much needed game mechanic tweak)
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Posted - 2006.04.19 01:10:00 -
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Edited by: betazero on 19/04/2006 01:11:53
i think some of the people who founded moo were also in black re1gn or whatever that corp was in beta who i remember as beeing pirates.
i forgot all about ywev ,he seemed a pretty decent bloke and would always spare 10mins or so for a chat even though i didnt know the guy
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aggiedog
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Posted - 2006.04.19 01:38:00 -
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Hmm, can't believe the GM wanted his corpse back. Seems like Ywev was wrongfully punished. Any links to the GM response? I am sure the backlash was terrible.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 01:47:00 -
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Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 19/04/2006 01:47:38
Originally by: Athren Soulsteal
MOo used ever exploit you can imagine because ôthey couldö.
[more]
I do like reading long passages of decently written text, but sometimes, you can say it a bit shorter:
m0o PWNED. Hail m0o, may your glory days be restored.
Oh and will you whine when someone with more guns then you spanks you for looking at him funny? After all, you are a bratt in his eyes.
To all those sploit crieers in this thread:
The highest compliment you can give to someone is to accuse him of using aimbot / h4xploits, no?
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.19 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Bhaal
I honestly don't care, as it seems all the real ****heads have moved on to cheat in other MMO's...
Oh but you do care, and all your posts reek of sweaty effort. You're like a fat kid with pie crust on his face trying to repeatedly deny eating it. Well I know your dirty little secret WD, you love m0o. You wish you were m0o. The whole of EVE has adopted m0o style tactics and policies, including you, but you keep denying their sheer awesomeness as if you'd have to admit they were right and you were wrong.
Btw, here is a hint so read carefully or you will miss it; if you can't prove m0o cheated in EVE, what makes you think you know anything of their activities in other games? The whole of m0o combined does not deserve a ban as much as you do for Ebaying your original character, and ignoring the very simple .advice you were given by the citizens of this fine game.
Actually I don't...
And plz don't lie and tell everyone I eBay'ed my original character.
I gave him away for free to a corp mate, back when CCP allowed you to transfer ownership of accounts.
In any event, no, I'm not like m0o, never was, and never will be...
They have been over-glorified by players who seem to be e-empowered by accomplishments of dirty deeds within an MMO, quite sad I think...
I don't know what's worse, the actual cheaters, or those who worship them...
If they were so right, they would still be around...
I'm glad the DEV's stamped them out; too bad they will live on in some sadistic lore due to their cult-like worshipers...
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Posted - 2006.04.19 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Maybe one day, someone will get a hold of Stav and make him talk. m0o didn't build a rep over exploiting, they did it by slapping everyone mercilessly without regard for their feelings (and being the first to do everything ofc). Until then, flame on lamers :p
But who cares? Soon, your abused "nublars" will re-write Eve history and you, together with your m0o stigma will be nothing more but historical garbage. Because legends never live.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 03:03:00 -
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So either
A. m0o exploited holes in the system that CCP had to fix in order to get the game to work properly
-or-
B. They were the first super-pirate corp.
Either way, that deserves props and both views are supported.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2006.04.19 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
They have been over-glorified by players who seem to be e-empowered by accomplishments of dirty deeds within an MMO, quite sad I think...
I don't know what's worse, the actual cheaters, or those who worship them...
If they were so right, they would still be around...
I'm glad the DEV's stamped them out; too bad they will live on in some sadistic lore due to their cult-like worshipers...
You keep prattling on about cheaters like you know something, but have yet to prove or cite an actual case of m0o exploiting. EVE is probably the most mature MMO community out there, which is why I find it quite funny you would bother to repeat a lie so much. Do you expect it to work? How many opinions can you safely say you've swayed with your incessant trolling in the past years?
Please, humour me.
If CCP "stamped out" m0o like you said, they wouldn't have adapted for close to three years, surpassing the seven month average stay of subscribers. Nor would they have "glorified" their legendary status ingame.
What I don't understand is why you're even pretending to hate m0o so much, when you've got certifiable fanboy status (note the number of times you reply in any such threads). If you hadn't ebayed your character, it would of made more sense cause I could imply you're just keeping up appearances.
It must be the greatest shame for you to spend so much effort when all things are said and done, m0o will go down as one of the top 3 influencial corporations in EVE the day servers shut down. Buhu :'[
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Posted - 2006.04.19 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Bhaal
They have been over-glorified by players who seem to be e-empowered by accomplishments of dirty deeds within an MMO, quite sad I think...
I don't know what's worse, the actual cheaters, or those who worship them...
If they were so right, they would still be around...
I'm glad the DEV's stamped them out; too bad they will live on in some sadistic lore due to their cult-like worshipers...
You keep prattling on about cheaters like you know something, but have yet to prove or cite an actual case of m0o exploiting. EVE is probably the most mature MMO community out there, which is why I find it quite funny you would bother to repeat a lie so much. Do you expect it to work? How many opinions can you safely say you've swayed with your incessant trolling in the past years?
Please, humour me.
If CCP "stamped out" m0o like you said, they wouldn't have adapted for close to three years, surpassing the seven month average stay of subscribers. Nor would they have "glorified" their legendary status ingame.
What I don't understand is why you're even pretending to hate m0o so much, when you've got certifiable fanboy status (note the number of times you reply in any such threads). If you hadn't ebayed your character, it would of made more sense cause I could imply you're just keeping up appearances.
It must be the greatest shame for you to spend so much effort when all things are said and done, m0o will go down as one of the top 3 influencial corporations in EVE the day servers shut down. Buhu :'[
I like m0o, but I want more 'Remember the Jokers' threads.
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PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2006.04.19 03:35:00 -
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It's hard for the new guys to understand Digi, they never lived the legend, never participated in the era where the word m0o was synonymous to the fear that a person would feel when staring down the end of a barrel of a BFG.
Make no mistake... no corporation will ever again make such a huge impression on the structure of the eve-universe as what m0o have done. Through their efforts the Dev's themselves were pushed to balance, to create and to destroy things that otherwise would have remained stagnant for much longer.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 03:52:00 -
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I was gonna hop on here and go on a bit about wrangler having his head inserted in certain places it shouldn't be, however given his position I will hold back a bit, as being who he is he will likely make this post go poof and throw me a ban rather then back up his sorry excuse of a post.
I will say however, that m0o pushed the boundries of the game in the early days, and pushed ccp to change/modify/develop this game in ways that, when it went retail, were probably not envisioned.
People who work for ccp probably should refrain from talking smack about former and current PAYING CUSTOMERS.
Don't worry Wrangler, all the other noobs used to cry exploit/griefer on the forums too.....
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.04.19 04:30:00 -
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Originally by: Aziza
Because legends never live.
Is that why there's an extremely common saying that goes:
"Legends never die"?
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined.
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Aziza
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Posted - 2006.04.19 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Aziza
Because legends never live.
Is that why there's an extremely common saying that goes:
"Legends never die"?
Every MMO had it's own heroes and legends from the Beta times. And there are heroes not because they ubber or awesome like Digi trying to claim, and not because they are evil or cheaters, like many trying to put it, but simply because they were first. It's easy to be a hero when game just started and total players base is somewhere between modern large corp and small alliance size. Eventually, all these "heroes" consumed by growing player base or they simply quit because they can't stand loosing their status. So, suck it up, but legends never live and nobody care about m0o today.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 05:22:00 -
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I miss m0o tbh. With Zap,Sass,Digi,Stained,Omni,Stavros and pretty much the whole old crew. I hope they come back,Eve needs a good shot of fear in its system.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 05:28:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
In any event, no, I'm not like m0o, never was, and never will be...
They have been over-glorified by players who seem to be e-empowered by accomplishments of dirty deeds within an MMO, quite sad I think...
I don't know what's worse, the actual cheaters, or those who worship them...
If they were so right, they would still be around...
I'm glad the DEV's stamped them out; too bad they will live on in some sadistic lore due to their cult-like worshipers...
You sound really bitter, Sir. Is it because m0o are famous for being feared in-game and you are famous for whining on the forums?
It's okies mate, I haven't done anything people would know about in-game either, forums are great!
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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Posted - 2006.04.19 05:32:00 -
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Quote:
who is this m0o?
never thought I'd see that 
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Posted - 2006.04.19 05:36:00 -
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this is how much I care about m0o
I'm sure all the ex m0o guys are enjoying having their egos inflated a bit more by this thread
and for the record, I've never lost a ship to them, so ya can't call me bitter, I joined the game after a lot of this happened. I just couldn't give a s**t about m0o is all
(yeah, recycled that link from another thread, still good tho)
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2006.04.19 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Aziza
Every MMO had it's own heroes and legends from the Beta times. And there are heroes not because they ubber or awesome like Digi trying to claim, and not because they are evil or cheaters, like many trying to put it, but simply because they were first. It's easy to be a hero when game just started and total players base is somewhere between modern large corp and small alliance size. Eventually, all these "heroes" consumed by growing player base or they simply quit because they can't stand loosing their status. So, suck it up, but legends never live and nobody care about m0o today.
Except EVE isn't like every other MMO, and m0o isn't famous for being first. There were pirate corps and evil people before m0o. What you utterly fail to realize is that we're on one server, where losses aren't meaningless and skill doesn't equate to the value of your gear. The people they killed and allied with is a large part of political standing today. There are maybe a dozen corporations, whose removal from history would alter its entire course.
I can see why some people who joined the game after wouldn't care, but all you need to do is undock from a station, jump to another system, fit some modules, wave at concord, hug some sentries or pvp to by touched by their influence.
It doesn't really stroke my ego, nor am I defending it for my sake. Things would have turned out quite the same if I was never a member. I realized the impact of what they did even before I created my character on Tranquility. Being ex-m0o is nothing, many people were accepted and subsequently booted. Either for being idiots or caring only for the corptag, I'm just happy I got to participate before things went to ****.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 05:52:00 -
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Edited by: Aitrus on 19/04/2006 05:53:53
Originally by: Sensor Error
Edited by: Sensor Error on 18/04/2006 19:31:19
Originally by: Various
m0o got Concord pimped
That was zombie with the Yulai incident...
Learn your history young one. m0o was the subject of a GM-Concord intervention LONG before Zombie existed. This was back in mid-2004 I think.
I must be old when I consider the yulai thing 'recent'
Ah, and even though someone beat me to it: Stavros for Emperor!
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Posted - 2006.04.19 06:07:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui
lol @ the guy seeing moo didnt try to cheat, what was all those cans in mara for that time
moo tried to make out they were loot cans but nearly all of them contained 1trit
... but it wasn't cheating until it was declared as such.
Lag traps continued long after that. Hell, I remember using them until it was declared cheating.
(That tactic was also responsible for the timer on creating jet-cans - a much needed game mechanic tweak)
Kill 50 newbieship... omg theres suddenly 50 cans with 1 trit in it, you must be cheating.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 06:13:00 -
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m0o wasnt all that , your just n00bs even that isd guy , he's only upset because he was owned so hard he became a isd dude to avoid being ganked ;)..
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2006.04.19 07:45:00 -
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Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui
it was still abusing the games mechanics for an unfair advantage which is classed as an exploit.
2 fleets on the opposite side of gate, 1 has drones out. Exploit?
Here's the veldspar mining laser for you.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2006.04.19 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: Aziza
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Maybe one day, someone will get a hold of Stav and make him talk. m0o didn't build a rep over exploiting, they did it by slapping everyone mercilessly without regard for their feelings (and being the first to do everything ofc). Until then, flame on lamers :p
But who cares? Soon, your abused "nublars" will re-write Eve history and you, together with your m0o stigma will be nothing more but historical garbage. Because legends never live.
And people wonder why like-minded group together in BoB? What should I perhaps apply for your corp? Thx I think I'll pass.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
masters of ownage is a bit silly, but the part that annoys me is m0o, because it's the sound cows make.. and cows are really dumb animals.
And how does that make you feel when being owned by really dumb animals?
extremely .... ?
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Posted - 2006.04.19 07:59:00 -
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Okay, a slight dig at DigitalCommunist (sorry, but I just had to)...
Before m0o: clicky
Once upon a time, Digi (as a part of the JGR) made fun of m0o for having large egos. I think I have a similar link somewhere regarding Evol as well.
Yes, looong time ago. I just think it's funny.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Flyyn
Edited by: Flyyn on 18/04/2006 11:35:07
m0o gave the true meaning to the word "griefing" They are the ones that have made the following...
1. Gate Camping...
2. Sentry guns...
3. Unbeatable Concord...
4. Concord Swat...
And many many more...Before their crap I was able to be a true pirate...Now reduced to slight of hand tricks to get, folks to pay up....
EDIT: (just for fun) Oh and most are or were the alts of the DEV's and GM's
Yes, m0o has had the greatest impact on Eve of any single corp. I doubt anyone will be able to top them.
PS Many m0o are, or have been, in CLS. We're just that cool.
Originally by: Bl4zer
But, cmon, this is the Eve forums, we don't let facts get in the way of pointless speculation.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 08:11:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog
PS Many m0o are, or have been, in CLS. We're just that cool.
Err yeah, to teach you the ropes of pvp
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Posted - 2006.04.19 09:05:00 -
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sutty and poxys post used to really make my day
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Posted - 2006.04.19 09:15:00 -
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m0o must hav been quiet something if a thread about them reaches 4 pages when the corp is already long gone.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 09:16:00 -
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MY ex corp.
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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.04.19 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
A lot of the people in m0o were ok, a lot of them were exploiters, greiferes etc. Unfortunately the game was very new, so they got away with a lot of what they did. Main reason they can't be imitated is that people would be banned if they did the same thing today.
Somehow I find it typical that one of the most (in)famous corporations in EVE's history has (had) such a silly name.
Obvieslt Wranglers alt was shot donw by m0o 6 heatsink maller.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:21:00 -
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Edited by: Bhaal on 19/04/2006 10:22:41
Edited by: Bhaal on 19/04/2006 10:21:15
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Bhaal
They have been over-glorified by players who seem to be e-empowered by accomplishments of dirty deeds within an MMO, quite sad I think...
I don't know what's worse, the actual cheaters, or those who worship them...
If they were so right, they would still be around...
I'm glad the DEV's stamped them out; too bad they will live on in some sadistic lore due to their cult-like worshipers...
You keep prattling on about cheaters like you know something, but have yet to prove or cite an actual case of m0o exploiting. EVE is probably the most mature MMO community out there, which is why I find it quite funny you would bother to repeat a lie so much. Do you expect it to work? How many opinions can you safely say you've swayed with your incessant trolling in the past years?
Please, humour me.
If CCP "stamped out" m0o like you said, they wouldn't have adapted for close to three years, surpassing the seven month average stay of subscribers. Nor would they have "glorified" their legendary status ingame.
What I don't understand is why you're even pretending to hate m0o so much, when you've got certifiable fanboy status (note the number of times you reply in any such threads). If you hadn't ebayed your character, it would of made more sense cause I could imply you're just keeping up appearances.
It must be the greatest shame for you to spend so much effort when all things are said and done, m0o will go down as one of the top 3 influencial corporations in EVE the day servers shut down. Buhu :'[
It's not a shame at all. I voice my opinion, and that is that.
In my opinion, guys playing an MMO who continue to use a dmg mod stacking exploit to grief noobs in mara/passari even though they have been told to stop, and then get teleported across the EVE universe because they are too immature to stop does not evoke hero status IMO.
Ywev coming onto the forums to beg for ISK as his wallet is at -1 bill ISK due to the fact that he cheated, does not make him a hero in my eyes. It makes him an immature cheater who got what he deserved when the GM gave him that ISK penalty...
I'm sure there are many more examples of their heroic actions which can be had via the new forum search function.
I for one am glad they are gone.
I wonder how much they eBay'ed their characters for? I gave mine up for free, but that's just the kind of player I am. I bet they made enough RL cash to go exploit & grief in some other MMO for years to come...
You m0o fanbois are like neo-****Æs who think ****** was the best thing since sliced bread...
Believe me, it's not hard work to share my opinion on this, and I have no agenda other than the fact that I think they were immature asshats who tried to ruin the game for as many players as possible, and I for one am glad they are gone, and do not look upon their exploits as heroic, but sad and lame, and glad the GM's & DEV's dealt with them as they had...
And no, I'm not bitter, as it's not my game, I did not create it. If I was a DEV, then yes, maybe that could be true...
So if you want to continue to try to deface me by saying I eBay'ed my character for RL cash when in reality I GAVE him away for free, go ahead and rattle that sabre till your hearts content. You won't change the image of m0o in doing so, you will only solidify the fact that m0o followers are like those who follow any radical or extremist group... Brainwashed...
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:33:00 -
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bhall loose nah dont think so
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Sphalerite
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
You m0o fanbois are like neo-****Æs who think ****** was the best thing since sliced bread...
Wow. Quoted for WTF. Don't you automatically lose now?
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Riddari
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:44:00 -
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During my time I've fought with m0o guys before m0o, against m0o and then with m0o. In fact I was more often on the other side of the guns to m0o than flying with them.
I played with Stavros and tekforce in beta, joined up with them and the others on Day 1 in retail and yes, we did mine ark in 0.4 for the first days.
In our Impairors and Velators with basic mining lasers. Painful. We were Shadow Freetrading Corp.
Stavros, tekforce and others split from SFC to create End of Eve, a pirating corporation terrorizing Amarr space, I flew with them under my SFC tag several times. We heard about m0o who were then terrorizing other parts of EVE and Stavros was full of praise for their style. End of Eve merged into m0o, Shadow Freetrade died and I moved onto other things while Falhofnir went to Cult of Cthulu (SFC had a nice bunch of beta veterans!).
In Fountain I found myself fighting my old beta and retail buddies often. They were all nice guys and no grudges were held over killing and being killed by friends and good buddies. As a quote I saw put it succintly, it's a game with internet spaceships, sums it up well.
I always found it good fun to rile up the newer m0o members (hi Kurenin) in local
Having fought against them for a long time, one day I was wondering what to do next in EVE? The pirating aspect of EVE has never appealed to me, ganking miners, indies or npc-ers just doesn't push my buttons. But at that time m0o were focusing on harassing alliances up north, outnumbered but using their tactics to overcome the odds.
I liked that part, so I joined up with them and found that not only were my old buddies still great chaps, but the other members were also cool people. These players believed in "one for all, all for one" and no one had to undock with sub-standard equipment because someone with ISK or equipment would loan or give it without a question asked.
Who would not want to fly with a group of good people who watch each other backs and who excell in balls to the walls fights and come out on top against the odds by using their skills and tactics to the max?
So I had a good few weeks before m0o was disbanded, flying with former buddies and opponents, and even one who broke my old Tycho Heavy Corporation with a giant corptheft (at the time it was well over a billion isk, in those days a serious sum).
m0o was a bunch of some of EVE's coolest people who knew they were playing a game and were damn good at it. Games are tools to enable you to have fun.
That was what m0o was about.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
A lot of the people in m0o were ok, a lot of them were exploiters, greiferes etc. Unfortunately the game was very new, so they got away with a lot of what they did. Main reason they can't be imitated is that people would be banned if they did the same thing today.
Somehow I find it typical that one of the most (in)famous corporations in EVE's history has (had) such a silly name.
Amazing input from a supposedly unbiased moderator really.
Alot of us were exploiters? OH REALLY I MUST OF MISSED ALL THE BANS THAT WE HAD THEN OBEVIOUSLY
We were greifers? HELL YES BUT HELLLLOOO, THATS NOT A BANNABLE OFFENSE
Unfortunately we got away with what we did? THE GAME STILL HAD THE SAME GM TEAM, STILL THE SAME ISD, SO HOW DID THE GAME BEING 'NEW' AID US IN GETTING AWAY WITH WHAT WE DID?
This post from a supposedly 'neutral' 'proffesional' ISD member (also one of the most senior) is one of the biggest jokes I have ever seen. Although it is all I came to expect from the 'Pann' (may she rest in pie) era ISD/Polaris.
You wanna talk about the game being new and people getting away with things? Lets talk about an ISD member flying around in his polaris frig in FD-MLJ so we would let him in to the corp.
m0o were m0o
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.04.19 10:54:00 -
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yes its part of the history and currently history is being written with BOB et all going hard across eve.
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turnschuh
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:22:00 -
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link to the thread where sentry guns where added to gates:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=32514
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Double TaP
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sphalerite
Originally by: Bhaal
You m0o fanbois are like neo-****Æs who think ****** was the best thing since sliced bread...
Wow. Quoted for WTF. Don't you automatically lose now?
LoL Quoted for WTF again. N a z i's? Thats a little overboard. And by a little I mean wayyyyyy overboard.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:33:00 -
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this thread has gone a bit wrong.
OP: i think it's safe to say, oppinion on m0o is divided.
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Alpha Centauri
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:36:00 -
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m0o are a lot like marmite... or is that m0omite
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: turnschuh
link to the thread where sentry guns where added to gates:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=32514
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Posted - 2006.04.19 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: Logi3 on 19/04/2006 11:52:25
Wow this thread stinks of BS.
only two people have talk any sense really and thats DigitalCommunist and Stavros.
My Original charater was in Cornexant and at the time i joined, i had to pass through the deadly Passari gate to get to Torrinos where we were based doing alot of mining to build the first Scorp ingame. I belive, this was with the help of Bladerunners who helped us by the BPO. I honestly cant remember to clearly as that was hell of a long time ago, July 2003 i think...
I cant really remember the fight either, but i remember m0o were the first to do alot of things and when your the first. Your normally called hax0r, cheater, lamer,**** etc etc. Armageddons with x7 damage mods and x7 250 protos were the daddies back in the day. Super damage and ROF of 1.5 secs was it?
I remember when we moved to Fountain. And the many battles. the big battle of the north vs TTI and M3G4, i think some m0o came up? Maybe not, was along time ago.
I'm trying to remember who was flying the Scorp from Cornexant.. Cant remember....
I remember being a m0o wannabie and not asshamed to admit it, when i had the chance to join. It was in the decline of the original hard core m0o.
IMO m0o just found out alot of things first and used them to there advantage, plain and simple.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 12:03:00 -
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You just got a lot of bitter people here.
Whining because they've not been as 'famous'(or infamous) as m0o, and never will be.
I can see thses same people in a year or 2 crying that BoB used exploit to WTFpwn eve 0.0  .
Oh and as for the whining nublet claiming that 'eve history will be rewritten blah blah'.
Well it wont, We WILL ALWAYS remember the early corps and the early days, our single universe may not last forever but the stories will. Hell i was never in m0o or BoB (early bob when u guys raped my first alliance (NSA + FU)) and i will always remember them and give them props for PLAYING the game, thats what its all about right.
I salute you m0o and curse the fact i never had a chance to join.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 12:09:00 -
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Good post Laythun,
But! There will never be anything like m0o again. Yea BOB will go down as a fierce alliance, but what about IRON?
After reading this, i've just realised how much the game has changed since when i was in Cornexant Corp, which then and for a while was a top corporation! BS were very rare, well non existant untill we start building them! Now, what ship is uncommon too see?
Anyone from Cornexant Corp days convo me. I won't put down my character i was then here.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 12:17:00 -
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Quote:
You keep prattling on about cheaters like you know something, but have yet to prove or cite an actual case of m0o exploiting.
moo + rus (thnink it was rus anwway) vs FA in YZ-LQL ,GRID BUG EXPLOIT USED , about 10 of us got our ships replaced and was the first time grid exploit was mentioned in eves ingame news.
OK?
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.04.19 12:20:00 -
[123]
Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui
Quote:
You keep prattling on about cheaters like you know something, but have yet to prove or cite an actual case of m0o exploiting.
moo + rus (thnink it was rus anwway) vs FA in YZ-LQL ,GRID BUG EXPLOIT USED , about 10 of us got our ships replaced and was the first time grid exploit was mentioned in eves ingame news.
OK?
dude, its only and exploit AFTER its been found and used. dont be stupid Blame someone for pushing the game to the limits.
If they CONTINUED to use it then its an exploit.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.04.19 12:26:00 -
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So many bitter people, so long after the fact.
gg m0o, u will always be one of the games legends.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.19 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Double TaP
Originally by: Sphalerite
Originally by: Bhaal
You m0o fanbois are like neo-****Æs who think ****** was the best thing since sliced bread...
Wow. Quoted for WTF. Don't you automatically lose now?
LoL Quoted for WTF again. N a z i's? Thats a little overboard. And by a little I mean wayyyyyy overboard.
Yes it was, I'm sorry...
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Posted - 2006.04.19 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: Noluck Ned on 19/04/2006 12:41:35
Edited by: Noluck Ned on 19/04/2006 12:41:03
Well.....
M0o may be gone, but judging from the emotions unleashed in this thread, they are definately not forgotten.
It's not much of a problem for me since all this took place before my time.
We should in fact thank m0o for making the game what it is today: Less full of issues which could be used to stack the odds in your favour.
Were they cheaters? Dont know, cant prove anything.
Did they use the yet to be ironed out Kinks in the game to their advantage? Seems like it, I have a friend whom I trust who used to play in those days and he seemed to think so. I cant prove anything one way or the other.
Bear with me...this post does have a point.
Its this: The Eve-verse(and the world at large) consists of both(many more types as well but right now they are not important) of the following types of people.
Type one: This is a player who, once he has identified a way to use the ingame rules to his advantage(even if its a grey area/borderline exploit)
will immediately start using his discovery to gain advantage over others in the game. This player sees nothing at all wrong with what he is doing, he feels that it is his right to use every advantage he can get.
Type two: The player who identifies the same possible advantage from the dodgy tactic, but who then refuses to use it out of a sense of honour/fairness.
(Type 3: People who never know whats going on, but they are not important cause it doesent affect them at all one way or the other)
Type one will pwn type two almost every day, laughing happily to himself at his own percieved cleverness.
Type two will become more and more frustrated by being pwned daily by a tactic which he/she considers an exploit, this does nothing but cause a sense of moral outrage.
This is something which pure griefers can never understand: How being the victim of exploits can be experienced as a personal attack on ones own values and standards as a human being. The victim is left with a real sense of moral outrage, they have encountered someone diameterically opposed to what they feel is "Right". In short; an exploiter is symbolic of all that is wrong with the world in general, the fact that some people refuse to stick to the rules that others depend on to keep everything reasonably sane.(The knowledge that others are getting their jollies from your misfortune tends to bring out the worst in people)
Like every single game ever invented by man, EVE revolves around conflict. Not one single aspect of EVE does not relate to PVP in some way or another.
People look to the developers and GM's to keep the playing field even. When a phenomenon like m0o washes over a community its a sure bet that controversy will be the result.
It also seems as though m0o was no different than any other group consisting of a majority of player type one: the left hand didnt know what the right hand was doing, just because you never exploited does not mean your corp mates did not.
And I am very sorry, but I am going to have to believe Wrangler when he says that they did in fact use tactics which are NOW considered as exploits. I have no reason to think that he would lie about that in a public forum.
Phew...ran out of rant before running out of space.
And yes...I may publish all these theories one day
Soon as I can prove to myself that I am never wrong.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 13:04:00 -
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Ahah. I was just thinking "I'm not going to post unless Bhaal compares us to ****s/communists/rapists" and WHAM.
Good job WD, you have really proven that you are not a bitter little man with his panties in a twist over a computer game, crying and moaning because secretly he knows that he always wanted to be what m0o was; a significant impact on this game. Sorry but your impact will never go beyond endless whimpering and nonsensicle posting about self-righteous moral standards and how they should apply to EVE, and how it is such a great tragedy that CCP refuses to embrace your silly little candyworld fantasy.
Funny thing is, most of the bitter little people are just crying not because m0o were huge griefers or exploiters (puhleease btw) but because they know that m0o was simply better than them back in the day, and they don't want this fact to be acknowledged. Tough cookies my little bears, m0o became a legend a long time ago, and you can be sure that when EVE ends, m0o will still be remembered.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 13:08:00 -
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"Good job WD (..)"
Wait wait waaait, Bhaal is WhiteDwarf? ^^;;
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2006.04.19 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: Viceroy on 19/04/2006 13:11:28
Originally by: j0sephine
Wait wait waaait, Bhaal is WhiteDwarf? ^^;;
It all makes sense now doesn't it?
Bhaal was WhiteDwarf before he "gave away his account for free" to a certain internet auction site that he claims to be his "best friend".
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Posted - 2006.04.19 13:16:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Stavros
hilarity
Oh, my lord stav, how I have missed ye
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Posted - 2006.04.19 13:19:00 -
[131]
Originally by: j0sephine
"Good job WD (..)"
Wait wait waaait, Bhaal is WhiteDwarf? ^^;;
You didn't know that?
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Posted - 2006.04.19 13:21:00 -
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anyone have the little dancing cow? I just love the cow
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.19 13:21:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Viceroy
Edited by: Viceroy on 19/04/2006 13:11:28
Originally by: j0sephine
Wait wait waaait, Bhaal is WhiteDwarf? ^^;;
It all makes sense now doesn't it?
Bhaal was WhiteDwarf before he "gave away his account for free" to a certain internet auction site that he claims to be his "best friend".
LOL, well I've given my true opinions on the matter, and you have given your opinions of me...
Kind of the way it always plays out...
Whether ppl believe me, or care to believe me, I did not receive RL cash for that account.
I gave it to the first Infinicorp corp mate who responded... (It was b4 CCP had the official character transfer)
In any event, if I did illegally transfer that account through eBay or the like, CCP would have banned me I'm sure...
I'm sorry if I have offended anyone with my comments and opinions, I won't apologize for how I feel on these issues, but will do so if I have offended anyone regarding the manner in which I displayed them.
Honestly, it's a game, and it is fun.
I do enjoy the fights on the forums as well...
In any event, a lot of you love m0o, and I don't...
I guess that's what's important.
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Aziza
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Posted - 2006.04.19 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Aziza on 19/04/2006 14:14:27
Originally by: Laythun
Oh and as for the whining nublet claiming that 'eve history will be rewritten blah blah'.
Learn to read. Nobody care, not whining. And I will ignore pathetic nublet remark though.
Originally by: Laythun
Well it wont, We WILL ALWAYS remember the early corps and the early days
And who are you exactly?
Originally by: Laythun
our single universe may not last forever but the stories will.
It's not your universe. Never was and never will be. You also have no story or at least your strory suck big time.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Until you are told that using a tactic is exploiting, it is completely legitimate.
No, its not. Grow up.
If you KNOW its an unintended behaviour of the game mechanic and you use it to your advantage, its an exploit. Plain and simple. It does not require for anyone to tell you so beforehand. As long as you know.
And for all I know of m0o they knew that on a lot of occasions.
And for all I know they also made the best of the intended game mechanics.
Then we can debate on totally separate level whether exploiting does the game some good.
But if noone exploited exploits, they would not have to be countered, would they? Its like saying that the escaping prisoner invented maximum security prisons and should be praised for it.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 14:37:00 -
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I can't believe people still seem to be sore.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 15:13:00 -
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A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer. - Bruce Lee |
j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.19 15:20:00 -
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"You didn't know that? "
Nope, think i was on the EVE break when/if that became public knowledge so i missed it ^^;
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Keta Min
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Posted - 2006.04.19 15:21:00 -
[139]
lol @ "OMGSPLOIT!!11"-crew
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Kular
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Posted - 2006.04.19 15:28:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 18/04/2006 13:59:32
m0o Art
When I was bored I would do art for them... These were done the months before they broke up and went dormant.
They were actually a good lot of folk that were more mature then the people they would kill believe it or not.
lol I got half way through those pics when I saw the one of the Supersafespot Buster!
That was one of the best jokes m0o ever played on people! Mm0o was one of the greatest corps in Eve, I did have the pleasure of fighting one of their last remnants a year ago before they dissappeared forever. They we're bastards, but damn good at it and much respect for that!
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Posted - 2006.04.19 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Laythun
Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui
Quote:
You keep prattling on about cheaters like you know something, but have yet to prove or cite an actual case of m0o exploiting.
moo + rus (thnink it was rus anwway) vs FA in YZ-LQL ,GRID BUG EXPLOIT USED , about 10 of us got our ships replaced and was the first time grid exploit was mentioned in eves ingame news.
OK?
dude, its only and exploit AFTER its been found and used. dont be stupid Blame someone for pushing the game to the limits.
If they CONTINUED to use it then its an exploit.
sorry mate, but that's utter bollox.
its an 'exploit' becsause it's exploiting a weakness in the game's rules. It dosen't make any difference how many people klnow about it.
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DoctorDanny
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Posted - 2006.04.19 15:55:00 -
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Funny thread this. Shows how many idiots fly around in Eve forgetting that they're playing a game.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 16:30:00 -
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I once had an R2 droid in Star Wars Galaxies that I christened: Lord Zap.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 16:44:00 -
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Oh, I stopped reading this at the first page, had to read it all now, seems there was a bit of an overreaction here.
One advice for the future, don't troll a moderator, we warn for that too, not just if you troll or flame a player. Next time I won't be so nice and just lock it.
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