This sounds like a brilliant idea actually. It's been stated that the only reason anyone plays EVE is for the pvp against other people. Obviously that's what the OP wants, the ability to find more meaningful PvP.

So lets just remove missions, mining, industry, trading, and all that other carebear nonsense straight into the dumpster.

Instead we can Have isk be paid to players for winning in the Arena of Combat! Where when you log in, you purchase the ship you wish to fly, and then you fly around on the pre designated team you've been assigned and fight other combatants.

That's definitely how EVE should be. Is there a petition I can sign? I'm so excited thinking about how EVE is suppose to be that I don't even really want to waste my time with all the other ridiculousness this game provides.


*edit* I'm mining AFK in hi-sec and my clone is outdated.

Harassing CCP to nerf my content creation ruins my sandbox.

EVE needs carebears to function, but their carebearing activities need to more closely resemble playing in an interactive environment with other players who might wish to interact in a manner inconsistent with the carebear's fantasy of a single player game.

EVE needs carebears to function, but their carebearing activities need to more closely resemble playing in an interactive environment with other players who might wish to interact in a manner inconsistent with the carebear's fantasy of a single player game.

1. NPCs need to be DIFFICULT. Make the NPCs fight like a seasoned PvPer would. Neuts, scrams, webs, transversal, and the utilization of range control. These NPCs should only target the aggressors and they should encourage your average carebear to actually learn how combat works.

2. Remove bounties. Rewards should 100% be in the form of a tangible item in the game that one can trade to another player for that players isk (or even, god-forbid, STEAL). Bounties inflate currency and line the lazy-mans pocket as no processing is required to get the value out of their time.

3. Incentivise risk-taking. Whether it be a risky market endevour or a trip to low-sec for those "o so juicy ores" there needs to be incentives that involve risking an engagement with another player for our lovely sandbox to remain as such. Furthermore, the rewards for said endevours need to fall in line with the risk involved.

4. Remove safety nets. The green safety, gate guns in low sec, warp core stabs on ships already small enough to escape almost anything, all need to go. The idea should be to incentivise knowledge of game mechanics, and player interaction, not solo-farming.

TL;DR - Make players have to learn about the game and its mechanics in order to be successful.

I'm still not quite sure how you guys twist my original post into me forcing you to PvP. I do not want to force you to PvP, I did not say that at all. I do however think that actions with inherent risk should be rewarded more than those without, that's my main point. 0 risk is infinitely more safe than even the slightest risk, so risky actions need to be infinitely more profitable or the game will devolve into a whos-MR-battleship-is-shinier e-peen contest with no real depth.

edit: your arguments are a tell as to the level of your intellect, and it is in line with the lack of intellect that I prey on daily. I CANT MAKE COHERENT ARGUE SO IMA JUST PERTEND U SAY WHAT I THINK U SAY AN RESPOND TO DAT HURRDUURRDURR

Harassing CCP to nerf my content creation ruins my sandbox.

Sigh another nerf high sec thread hey ? I knew one was due!

What the op says will never happen. If you look at the map and statics you will see that most of the active playerbase is currently in high sec. Always was and always will be the most active areas of space.

That is a lot of custom to loose by fcking their game and content up and driving them out.

This is a myth.

A huge chunk are null sec alts who are only in high sec for the isk and there will be no mass unsub, high sec bears always threaten to leave but never do. CCP should fix game imbalances and ignore the people who defend said game imbalances.

Bears fill up games like WoW to the tune of millions. Wonder what CCP wants, more paying subs or more ISK for nullsec to RMT away.

Bears fill up games like WoW to the tune of millions. Wonder what CCP wants, more paying subs or more ISK for nullsec to RMT away.

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SKILLS MY PROFESSION REQUIRES THAT PVE DOESN'T:

1. People Skills - the socio-path-like ability to talk someone into doing something completely stupid
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Wanna-be sociopath tears are quite simply the platinum standard of tears, don't you know?

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[...] "pvping" in high-sec, you'd know that this already exists. It's called Sleeper AI, and does everything you've listed above.

I only see independent parties here, who is engaging is sockpuppetry?

NPCs need to be DIFFICULT. Make the NPCs fight like a seasoned PvPer would. Neuts, scrams, webs, transversal, and the utilization of range control. These NPCs should only target the aggressors and they should encourage your average carebear to actually learn how combat works.

2. Remove bounties. Rewards should 100% be in the form of a tangible item in the game that one can trade to another player for that players isk (or even, god-forbid, STEAL). Bounties inflate currency and line the lazy-mans pocket as no processing is required to get the value out of their time.

3. Incentivise risk-taking. Whether it be a risky market endevour or a trip to low-sec for those "o so juicy ores" there needs to be incentives that involve risking an engagement with another player for our lovely sandbox to remain as such. Furthermore, the rewards for said endevours need to fall in line with the risk involved.

4. Remove safety nets. The green safety, gate guns in low sec, warp core stabs on ships already small enough to escape almost anything, all need to go. The idea should be to incentivise knowledge of game mechanics, and player interaction, not solo-farming.

If you share somebody's sentiments you must be an alt!

Because if you are doing it right, you will never lose your ship.

Because if you are doing it right, you will never lose your ship.