I wonder why a similar thread in General Discussion got locked down, the moderator stating that threads holding a player up to derision is against the rules and will be locked down.

Now, back to avoiding the forums again. Every time I look at the behavior here, I have an incredibly strong urge to leave this game for good. Knowing there's a new game coming where I wouldn't have to think about ganking or take part in non-consensual pvp is pretty attractive after four and half years of association with players like the posters here.

While I see your point, I disagree. CCP shouldn't completely hold your hand through everything. They provide the resources, it's up to you whether you choose to read up or not. Besides, the client is going to take a while to install, you have time to read.

I think the tutorial has a few problems, but it shouldn't be a replacement to laziness.

Edit: Oh and about the constant highsec nerfs, yeah they're a right PITA. This pandering to stupidity / laziness / AFKness is frustrating.

I wonder why a similar thread in General Discussion got locked down, the moderator stating that threads holding a player up to derision is against the rules and will be locked down.

I wonder why so many people feel that trashing this guy in personal terms is just dandy but his rage-threat to get back at his gankers is not. Who cares whether you think this guy would be a good lawyer or not? You're just expelling gas anyway, what do you actually know about him? You want to judge him in terms of how his behavior in the game reflects on his actual real life self. But I thought there was no connection to be made that way? Gankers are actually decent joes in the world beyond Eve, isn't that what we're supposed to believe?

I wonder why so many people think this is any of their business; beginning with the article that focused attention on this incident and turned this guy's bad day into a public spectacle outside the game.

Otherwise this is the same old tired evil-is-the-new-good crap one expects from forum experts.

Great advertisement for the game here. You really think this kind of incident attracts floods of people to Eve? If that were really the case, this game would be a lot bigger than it is.

WoW gained 200,000 new players at the end of 2013, reportedly in a month, if what I read is correct. That's half this player base in a month. This game is indeed a niche game, and it's a nasty little niche.

I played The Elder Scrolls Online over the weekend and have been studying those forums to learn about the game and the people who might play it. So far, compared to the Eve forums, TESO players are model citizens, and their moderators lock down threads and hand out bans for the kinds of personal insults that are traded here.

I accepted Eve for what it is a while back, and I wouldn't suggest this game should become like TESO or WoW. But that's the game. When somebody's mistake gets reported on a news site, and when a significant portion of the player base starts to pile onto the fellow and administer vigilante punishment, there's something really nasty at work. That goes beyond the game.

The fact that he has an avatar means that trashing him and bullying him does not reach the person? That doesn't even make sense. And yet the same people are performing outrage that he made a rage-threat in the game?

If I were somebody looking to join a game and I read about this, I'd surely give this one a pass.

Now, back to avoiding the forums again. Every time I look at the behavior here, I have an incredibly strong urge to leave this game for good. Knowing there's a new game coming where I wouldn't have to think about ganking or take part in non-consensual pvp is pretty attractive after four and half years of association with players like the posters here.

Even at rough estimates 30$ per 2 plex makes it only $600 to get 40bill, and if he lost another 40 bill to a scam that would only put the total at $1200. Where is the other $1300 comming from?

I have spoken to this dude in game and does seem like a nice guy, I know he got scammed and blown up but that should be the end really> But for him its not as he is now getting hassle from others saying if he undocks they will hunt him down, lots of insalt's surely there should be a line between what is legal in eve and cyber bullying as i would class the hassle he is getting now as cyber bullying.
CCP needs to draw a line some were and i hope they will stop all the added agro he is getting.

Came in thread hoping for a quality Oiras post similar to snorting broken glass, left satisfied.

Finally it's ISK but it's a difference if the source was time for the gameplay or just money. You simply can't fly a 60 bil ship as a beginner if you have to make ISK ingame. You will learn EVE by the normal way with some hard lessons and that a 60 bil ship is totally senseless to fly for missions in hi-sec. At the end you might learn that joining a null-sec corp will open you some fast ways to make billions in a few days or weeks in a simple t2 fitted Ishtar. It doesn't matter here that it's insane to invest $2600 in a spaceship game. Fact is that CCP doesn't warn these people that they will risk their money doing it this way and inform them about the usual mechanics like getting ganked or scammed. I am pretty sure that this is an interesting case for a lawyer.

I predict the record will be shattered when Jim comes back, perhaps with a new character. He'll read about multiboxing and decide that if he had 2 ships just like what he lost, he will be unstoppable.

I predict the record will be shattered when Jim comes back, perhaps with a new character. He'll read about multiboxing and decide that if he had 2 ships just like what he lost, he will be unstoppable.

The failing here isn't just Raven-WoW-reject's alone....its a tutorial or new user intro that doesn't clearly demonstrate to every new EvE player that they can (and will)...

be ganked
be pirate-blapped when stepping into losec
be trade scammed
be tricked into entering a limited engagement with a pwnboat
be awoxed
be recruitment scammed
etc...

All of which can happen non-consensually, if they dont learn to protect themselves

They should be told this up front, in clear terms.

Hmm...blog post in there somewhere....

T2s are better than purple for that reason.

I don't use T2 for that same reason.

(Except when the cost efficiency is better than the loot /enemy value ratio, which is most of the time.
T2s are mostly more expensive anyways, and will not provide a way to destroy the enemy before being ganked.

They can be good versus NPC if there is enough security from groups, which I don't get.)



Most of the time while grouping, I get backstabbed (which means treason), or left for enemies to get killmail.
It seems more organized to get me killed than other.

So, T2 are pretty useless to me unless I want to further fill pirates pocket without benefit.

(Most fleetmates are more friendly towards the enemy or pirates than towards me.)

On a regular account (+/- $1,300 x2) + a 24 hour Biomass schedule (+/- time)

that is equal to 2 other potential pod pilot character.
That is also equal to a 3rd new pod pilot character for a new total of 4 (minus the first biomass).

Btw, an Attack Battleship had to come from the Character Bazaar unless .?.

I don't think he trained it, although it'd take less than 1 month to do that.

He most likely trained to BS and trying to test Dreads Titan super caps.
Just get ready for tech support.!!

Am sad that he biomassed. I wonder if he is still walking amongst us.

Out of curiousity how do you know if a character is biomassed? I'm relatively new to the game.