Should CCP also allow capital escalations in c1-c4 space? That would buff the isk.

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Noooo. Make C3s that i dont want dual statics in my C4

Could you elaborate?

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I like only having one static in my c4 it makes scouting and such easier. as im more likely to run into people in the c3. Basically its just realy selfish reasons :)

However if you dare to suggest C5 and C6's get a dual static (thus massively increasing the interaction) you get nayed, ignored, told to shut up etc. .........

This is the only area of contention I really have. I don't have a problem with C4's getting another static but let's face it, it's the C5 corps that want it and veil it behind the term "greater interaction"

However if you dare to suggest C5 and C6's get a dual static (thus massively increasing the interaction) you get nayed, ignored, told to shut up etc. .........

I know it increases the security risks in the C5 (Lets face it one guy in a cov ops can really open a can of worms by gridding both) but isn't that the whole point?

The greater interaction is not going to come with increasing statics in C4's. If the corp inside sees a new sig they may still pos up or log off and they'll keep their statics ungridded for as long as they need to now.

I would suggest concentrating on things that got broken and making a case for them to be re-established rather than going straight at C4's. Instasigs are what has really dented WH pew in a huge way and that's where you need to start in my never humble opinion.

I might be in the minority, but I would love to have 2 statics in my c5.

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2 bil mass WHs. This means it takes 7 BS to close/crit. them. Very tough to maintain WH-control even against a mildly pvp oriented C5 or C6 static, donGÇÖt you think?

Also stepping down to a Drake or somesuch doesn't lower the main risk with running sites anywhere for small groups. The risk of getting podded. For larger groups, this isn't a big deal, it's 15mins to a couple of days in HS. There's enough actives and alts aroundt o safely get back in. For smaller groups, this can mean losing the entire POS if you're down on actives or enough of you get podded out at a time. As I mentioned in the other thread around, I'd like to see an emergency limited number way to jumpclone back in. Something that's expensive enough that you don't want it to be the main way of travelling back in, but still low enough that if the worst happens, you can get back in and fight still.

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If you lose your pos you are a moron. Everyone has 3 char slots. On those character slots you can have backups most people use them for just PI but taking the extra time to train them into a basic scanning frig should be a requirement for all wormholers but there is no excuse for Ceos and Directors. You dont even need to take the time out anymore pay 600 mill and youve got 2 covops scan pilots.

Interesting... I wonder if we could get a few C5/C6 residents to provide some insight and a response to your point.

[quote=Noxisia Arkana]C2 Resident.

Why I won't live in a C4, C5, or C6.
1. I don't want to spend 2-3 days getting to HS. If I want to sponser a destroyer / cruiser roam for my corpmates, I don't want to have to roll out of the hole a week earlier. If we lose 20 ships and only kill 1? #winning.
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this is a big misconception among the lower class WH dwellers. they think the higher they go the logistics become harder and farther from HS they get.

Right now my current chain from my home system is this: C6 > C6 static > C3 > HS. Yep...only 3 jumps through WH's and I'm in HS.

Its not always this close but on average were usually only 4-8 jumps from green safety land.

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I agree with some of this but still must point out thats its REALLY easy to access KSpace from C5> C5/6.

I agree with some of this but still must point out thats its REALLY easy to access KSpace from C5> C5/6. This was something that took A LOT of discussion time in my alliance. Some of the more prominent bears were worried about logistics to and from KSpace. In fact it was easier to do because we could fit freighters through the holes and not make 50 itty 5 jumps.

Reducing income from any class of WH is a bad idea. The isk amounts are based on the difficulty of the space your in. Escalations will nuke capitals if people aren't paying attention. I wouldn't mind seeing an increase to the isk amounts in lower class holes even. ISK is really one of the biggest draws to WSpace, but getting that isk needs to ALWAYS remain as full of risk as possible. Risk of both player ganking and having sleepers slap you around like a b*tch. If safe is what your looking for, I choose you high sec!

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You put the caps on the line because you'll make amazing ISK. The question comes down to, are escalations balanced in terms of risk vs reward?

Having not experienced the risks and rewards of escalations, I am certainly not one to say whether the risk vs rewards are balanced. But I can ask the question of higher wormhole dwellers: are they? Furthermore, how do the risks and rewards of escalations compare to other risk vs reward situations in Eve? If the risk is the same but the rewards are higher, what justifies them being so?

Another option would be compare the average capital escalation fleet with the average incursion fleet or average C3-4 fleet. We would assume that all fleets were wiped out and then calculate how long it would take to replace the ISK value of those fleets by doing the same activity, respectively. If they are all require about the same amount of time, then perhaps the risk vs rewards of escalations are balanced. If replacing the capital escalation fleet would require a significantly shorter amount of time, then perhaps escalations need to have their rewards reduced. (And, of course, this method of comparison could be argued against as well).

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