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Zabrina
Half Moon Bay Ventures
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Posted - 2014.03.08 19:37:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Its threads like these that make me continue to camp trade hub pipe routes. Remember to send your ganker some lovely hate mail. We love adding it to our collection.
OR you could do what I did. Convo'ed him, said GJ and asked him for the Kill mail since I didn't fire at him, I wasn't sent a copy. He dropped in the kiil mail and I said TY and ended it. Then I put $100,000 isk bounty on him just to insult him. (his bounty is over a billion already). I then read up on how to give kill rights and put my kill rights on him for 1sk.
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Aaaarrgg
Pod-Goo Repo Men
Jazz Club
11
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Posted - 2014.03.08 20:13:00 -
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Zabrina wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Its threads like these that make me continue to camp trade hub pipe routes. Remember to send your ganker some lovely hate mail. We love adding it to our collection.
OR you could do what I did. Convo'ed him, said GJ and asked him for the Kill mail since I didn't fire at him, I wasn't sent a copy. He dropped in the kiil mail and I said TY and ended it. Then I put $100,000 isk bounty on him just to insult him. (his bounty is over a billion already). I then read up on how to give kill rights and put my kill rights on him for 1sk.
This is the proper way to deal with gankers .
putting a bounty on them definitely lets them know you are insulting them , a small bounty will do don't want to go overboard
as a result you get a notification the next time they die so you can gloat over their loss
and I usually advise a 0 isk KR on the ganker ,that's much more likely to be activated
:)
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
4150
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Posted - 2014.03.08 21:15:00 -
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Geez, $100k worth of isk seems mighty generous. Please tip the bounties of everyone here who also tried to help.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
405
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Posted - 2014.03.08 21:19:00 -
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Zabrina wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Zabrina wrote:Nah, I'm not ignorant of it, I'm rather pragmatic about. AFK hauling happens. Yea I'm going to alt tab out to research new game stuff and switch from between 3 active toons
So I'll get a macro bot that will automatically warp me to zero, jump, align, and warp to 0 to the next gate, repeat repeat repeat. As people have explained several times, your fit was asking to be ganked. Since you were supposedly AFK hauling its no surprise you didn't see it happen. Concord response time vary, but if he ganked you with no circumstances that make it legal, even using sentries, concord would kill him. Now you can either suck it up, learn from it and move on, or you can log off and never come back. Spouting off on the forum, telling everyone else that they simply don't understand, demanding some kind of change to protect you, or worst of all stating that you will use EULA violating methods to avoid is it going to get you nowhere. At best, you've just painted an enormous target on yourself. Chill people. This is my 'I'm baaaaaak' post. Don't be so serious. It's just a game. I got no pleasure from having my hauler shot while afk hauling in hi-sec. But this thread and the responses are reaching even equity on what I lost. Eve is about having fun any way you can and there are many many ways to have fun. Just don't get caught 
If you must AFK use a full fledged freighter and keep value below about 800 mill . Even then there is still a slight risk that some 'nado gang doing their last gank for the night will take you out just for the killmail.
If your not trained for freighters a better solution than industrials is this:
http://red-frog.org/jumps.php
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voetius
BITB Support Services
195
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Posted - 2014.03.08 21:23:00 -
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Zabrina wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Its threads like these that make me continue to camp trade hub pipe routes. Remember to send your ganker some lovely hate mail. We love adding it to our collection.
OR you could do what I did. Convo'ed him, said GJ and asked him for the Kill mail since I didn't fire at him, I wasn't sent a copy. He dropped in the kiil mail and I said TY and ended it. Then I put $100,000 isk bounty on him just to insult him. (his bounty is over a billion already). I then read up on how to give kill rights and put my kill rights on him for 1sk.
If it's one of those Vexor guys that is always in the Balle to Hek pipe the killrights are a bit pointless. If you set them low he just ganks himself in a shuttle using an alt, if you set them too high they won't get taken up. If you try and set them somewhere around the price of the minerbumping standard T1 Vexor sentry gank fit he may well just clear them using his alt anyway for convenience.
I'm not saying that killrights are useless, they are actually very good but they are situational, see the post in C&P where people linked lots of killmails of people in CNRs etc getting killed.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
982
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Posted - 2014.03.08 22:13:00 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
Lets just say that posts promoting EULA breaking actions and/or activities are not tolerated.
ISD Ezwal
Commander
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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Gregor Parud
287
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Posted - 2014.03.08 22:46:00 -
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Zabrina wrote:Tul Breetai wrote:I got killed in hisec, therefore something is wrong.
I didn't see him get concorded, therefore he did not get concorded.
I have been away and then this happened, therefore the game has changed by removing concord and not in other ways like crimewatch.
I sbed someone in hisec once and remember I was concorded in "no time flat", therefore he should have been too.
"There must be something about sentry drones interaction in highsec , concord, and PVP", therefore there must be something wrong.
I can fly ships that the requirements say I shouldn't be able to fly, and I can't figure out the self-explanatory primary, secondary, tertiary requirements.
Are you sure this is the game for you? Lets see. 1. Misquote poster several time on some key points. 2. Maintain the vernacular as if they're direct quotes from OP. 3. Berate OP. That's like so '90's mmorpg.
Yet on all points he's correct, you state that you didn't see him die and so he didn't according to you and the thread title. You lack knowledge, which is fine, and then state stuff youdon't understand and even when explained you stick to your statements.
So yes people are going to "berate" you based on your attitude and reactions, if you don't like that then perhaps you should change your tone or, you know, deal with it.
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
4151
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Posted - 2014.03.08 23:00:00 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
Lets just say that posts promoting EULA breaking actions and/or activities are not tolerated.
Keep up the good work, officer.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
724
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Posted - 2014.03.08 23:33:00 -
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Zabrina wrote:
Lets see.
1. Misquote poster several time on some key points.
2. Maintain the vernacular as if they're direct quotes from OP.
3. Berate OP.
That's like so '90's mmorpg.
Are you capable of replying point by point? Because you're full of ****.
There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17036
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:02:00 -
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Tul Breetai wrote:/facepalm
oops that's what I get for posting when knackered, I herped a derp and misunderstood the post  |
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Nicolai Serkanner
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
76
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:08:00 -
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]Zabrina wrote:
Okay, just wondering what part of AFK hauling you missed.
 ... lol ... play the game AT your keyboard next time.
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Nicolai Serkanner
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
76
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:10:00 -
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Aramatheia wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling -
Oh yes there is ... www.minerbumping.com
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hellokittyonline
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
88
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:14:00 -
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Zabrina wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Zabrina wrote:Noddy Comet wrote:Just out of curiosity, how many shots did you get off onto his mobile tractor unit before he blasted you?? Farming likes? Has your life come down to this? People are trying to help you solve the mystery, be nice. You came to GD for help. We are here to help you. Okay, just wondering what part of AFK hauling you missed. I've been back a week. Havn't even killed a rat yet. You know how much you forget after 3 years? I come back, I can fly ships that according to the skill requirements say I can't. My cyno alt has about 7 days of training again andI get ganked by a solo player with sentry drones. What's in store for my Obelisk, Orca?
Immersion at its finest. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
407
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Posted - 2014.03.09 03:08:00 -
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Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Aramatheia wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling - Oh yes there is ... www.minerbumping.com
Now they are just getting silly. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1266
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Posted - 2014.03.09 07:57:00 -
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Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Aramatheia wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling - Oh yes there is ... www.minerbumping.com
There is a permit which comes with the requirement to follow the Code. The Code is, if anything, kind of anti-AFK. We're not fans.
I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Kiryen O'Bannon
Thrall Nation
Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.03.09 08:11:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Aramatheia wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling - Oh yes there is ... www.minerbumping.com Now they are just getting silly.
It's been silly pretty much the entire time. |
Gregor Parud
287
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Posted - 2014.03.09 10:54:00 -
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Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Aramatheia wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling - Oh yes there is ... www.minerbumping.com Now they are just getting silly. It's been silly pretty much the entire time.
Unfunny, over used ****** memes tend to be like that. |
Boomhaur
197
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Posted - 2014.03.09 12:29:00 -
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Don't AFK haul in an untanked ship. If you autopilot do it in something make sure it's stupidly overtanked and fits these requirements at bare minium. Or better yet don't autopilot with goods.
1) You are not profitable to kill under any circumstances.
2) Extracting your tears is not profitable.
3) You have such a stupidly high EHP on your lowest resist it's unlikely to encounter a gang with the firepower.
4) Split your freaking cargo if you even think Tears + Cargo + Ship/Fitting/Implants loss would be worth it to someone else to pop you just for laughs
For me I think autopilot ships with or without goods in it should have at least 100k EHP. My standard pod mover is well over that amount. Why I do this is quite simple, I don't like waiting for someone to haul the goods for me when I have stupidly high EHP ships that can "safely" do this for me in the coarse of a few hours of Eve running in the background to make all those jumps.
For 225mil worth of cargo you don't only need a ship that is unprofitable to kill, but also a ship they know is not profitable to kill. If it's a low volume good, don't bother taking the industrial. Take out a combat ship with high EHP, industrialists are known for not knowing how to fit a freaking ship. Though a guy in say a Damnation hauling goods I would assume has an insane EHP tank before even ship scanning him, industrial on the other hand I half expect to see no tank.
Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you. |
Senfora Anophis
An Errant Venture
5
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Posted - 2014.03.09 17:23:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Aramatheia wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling - Oh yes there is ... www.minerbumping.com Now they are just getting silly.
I quite agree.
10 Million? For a YEAR?
That's far too low. |
Zabrina
Half Moon Bay Ventures
5
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Posted - 2014.03.10 00:38:00 -
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Tul Breetai wrote:Zabrina wrote:
Lets see.
1. Misquote poster several time on some key points.
2. Maintain the vernacular as if they're direct quotes from OP.
3. Berate OP.
That's like so '90's mmorpg.
Are you capable of replying point by point? *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.
I don't don't have to point by point rebut. Just pull up the post and your post and compare them side by side. Duh!
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Grunanca
Doughboys
Shadow Cartel
161
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Posted - 2014.03.10 07:05:00 -
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Zabrina wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Zabrina wrote:Noddy Comet wrote:Just out of curiosity, how many shots did you get off onto his mobile tractor unit before he blasted you?? Farming likes? Has your life come down to this? People are trying to help you solve the mystery, be nice. You came to GD for help. We are here to help you. Okay, just wondering what part of AFK hauling you missed. I've been back a week. Havn't even killed a rat yet. You know how much you forget after 3 years? I come back, I can fly ships that according to the skill requirements say I can't. My cyno alt has about 7 days of training again andI get ganked by a solo player with sentry drones. What's in store for my Obelisk, Orca?
Depends on what you put in your cargohold before undocking... |
Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
270
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Posted - 2014.03.10 08:23:00 -
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Zabrina wrote:There must be something about sentry drones interaction in highsec , concord, and PVP.
Due to the horrible bugs in the drone coding, oftentimes they will continue to fight even after their controlling ship has been destroyed.
The sound of the Amarrian heart |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
3019
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Posted - 2014.03.10 08:29:00 -
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Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:
And this is why you were ganked. Forget everything else, that was their target. The value of a T2 BPO is immeasurable. CCP has been trying to eliminate them from the game for years. To that end, it would not surprise me that CONCORD managed to mysteriously not show up when a ship carrying T2 BPOs was attacked. What a coincidence! And I am guessing that they did not drop, either, correct?
Items that the CCP wishes to see destroyed always find a way to become so. For reference, look up the drop rates for PLEX (i.e. 0%)
This, ladies and gentlemen, is what a persecution complex looks like.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Bi-Mi Lansatha
HIFI INDUSTRIAL
The Kadeshi
284
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Posted - 2014.03.10 08:58:00 -
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Zabrina wrote:...225m lost total in cargo and ship...
Iteron Mark V
Security: 0.5
Damage Taken: 1706
Why would you fly something like this?
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Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
79
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Posted - 2014.03.10 14:06:00 -
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Zabrina wrote:
No, I understand concord is not there to protect me. There must be something about sentry drones interaction in highsec , concord, and PVP.
I just remember the day I smartbombed somebody out during a mission and got punished in no time flat. This one was rather sad as I never saw Concord. Just my hull melt.
As others have said, 20 seconds is more than enough time to kill an anti-tanked T1 industrial and your pod before they get blapped by Concord, but this quote makes me wonder if maybe someone had a kill right on you for your smartbombing incident, and made it publicly available. He could have bought the kill right, making it a legal kill with no Concord response. If not, *someone* has a kill right on you, and you may lose another, more expensive ship if it wasn't used there. Better check your kill rights before you fly anything expensive.
Welcome back! |
Zabrina
Half Moon Bay Ventures
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Posted - 2014.03.11 04:51:00 -
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Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:Zabrina wrote:...225m lost total in cargo and ship...
Iteron Mark V
Security: 0.5
Damage Taken: 1706
Why would you fly something like this?
Because after a decade of on again off again playing, I'm still a noob care bear and I like to AFK haul. It's ******** I know. If there is a kill mail archive, I think 5 years ago I was ganked afk hauling 900,000,000 ISK in datacores.
I wonder if an MTU will self deploy from your cargo if somebody ganks you. Have it loot your wreck and cargo before they can get to it. lol. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1278
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Posted - 2014.03.11 06:07:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:
And this is why you were ganked. Forget everything else, that was their target. The value of a T2 BPO is immeasurable. CCP has been trying to eliminate them from the game for years. To that end, it would not surprise me that CONCORD managed to mysteriously not show up when a ship carrying T2 BPOs was attacked. What a coincidence! And I am guessing that they did not drop, either, correct?
Items that the CCP wishes to see destroyed always find a way to become so. For reference, look up the drop rates for PLEX (i.e. 0%)
This, ladies and gentlemen, is what a persecution complex looks like.
And what not properly maintaining your tin foil hat will get you.
I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
409
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Posted - 2014.03.11 06:11:00 -
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Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:Zabrina wrote:...225m lost total in cargo and ship...
Iteron Mark V
Security: 0.5
Damage Taken: 1706
Why would you fly something like this?
As a returning player they are probably unaware how badly the Itty V was nerfed in terms of tank in recent patches and how common T1 ganking has become :D |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
10333
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Posted - 2014.03.11 06:35:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:Zabrina wrote:...225m lost total in cargo and ship...
Iteron Mark V
Security: 0.5
Damage Taken: 1706
Why would you fly something like this? As a returning player they are probably unaware how badly the Itty V was nerfed in terms of tank in recent patches and how common T1 ganking has become :D
T1 ganking hasnt changed and you could always kill them this easily if they fit a very poor tank with a full rack of cargo expanders.
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Bi-Mi Lansatha
HIFI INDUSTRIAL
The Kadeshi
284
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Posted - 2014.03.11 07:46:00 -
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Zabrina wrote:Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:Zabrina wrote:...225m lost total in cargo and ship...
Iteron Mark V
Security: 0.5
Damage Taken: 1706
Why would you fly something like this? Because after a decade of on again off again playing, I'm still a noob care bear and I like to AFK haul. It's ******** I know.. The T1 were adjusted awhile back, with some of them getting really nice adjustments to tank. The Mark V wasn't one of those. I often fly to Jita or Amaar with 200M ISK in cargo and get scanned a lot, but only once did they actually try to gank me... it didn't go well for them.
My opinion, the Mark V is just a gank waiting to happen.
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