It's highly likely you just didn't live long enough to see them die.

If they podded you, that's definitely the case.

Either way, you are not giving enough information to determine the cause.

Isn't it considered rude to post kill mail on EVE forums?

Just out of curiosity, how many shots did you get off onto his mobile tractor unit before he blasted you??

Farming likes? Has your life come down to this?

People are trying to help you solve the mystery, be nice.

You came to GD for help. We are here to help you.

Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com

Looked at your km. Your attacker is an obvious ganker with many ships lost to CONCORD. I'm sure this one was as well. Your mistake is thinking CONCORD is there to protect you. They aren't. Like the RL cops, they show up, eventually, to punish the bad guy, not save you. They even right a nice report for you and send it to the killboards.

No, I understand concord is not there to protect me. There must be something about sentry drones interaction in highsec , concord, and PVP.

I just remember the day I smartbombed somebody out during a mission and got punished in no time flat. This one was rather sad as I never saw Concord. Just my hull melt.

No, I understand concord is not there to protect me. There must be something about sentry drones interaction in highsec , concord, and PVP.

I just remember the day I smartbombed somebody out during a mission and got punished in no time flat. This one was rather sad as I never saw Concord. Just my hull melt.

You're bound and determined to remain ignorant of this, aren't you?

You were in a 0.5 system in a negative tanked ship.

I could kill you and pod you in a 4 week old alt before CONCORD got there, this guy probably had time to smoke a cigarette and kill somebody else.

1/2 a billion isk in a ship made of toilet tissue.... I'm surprised OP made it more than 1 jump into a highsec pipe tbh.

You'd be surprised how many people straight up get away with crap like that.

i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling - such an activity is wrong on every front lol

Use the Nereus from now on. Iteron, Tayra, Mammoth and Bestower cannot fit a respectable tank. Sigil/Wreathe/Badger can work too, but aren't as solid overall.


[Nereus, Tanked]

2x Large Shield Extender II
3x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Damage Control II
4x Local Hull Conversion Expanded Cargo I

3x Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


[Nereus, Cargo]

2x Large Shield Extender II
3x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Damage Control II
4x Local Hull Conversion Expanded Cargo I

3x Medium Cargohold Optimization I

I got killed in hisec, therefore something is wrong.

I didn't see him get concorded, therefore he did not get concorded.

I have been away and then this happened, therefore the game has changed by removing concord and not in other ways like crimewatch.

I sbed someone in hisec once and remember I was concorded in "no time flat", therefore he should have been too.

I can fly ships that the requirements say I shouldn't be able to fly, and I can't figure out the self-explanatory primary, secondary, tertiary requirements.

Nope, nothing is wrong with highsec, unless you were a valid target via crimewatch or wardec then he got concorded, if you feel that he evaded Concord via an exploit report it to CCP.

Nothings changed, Concord have not been removed, the gank happened in a 0.5, he's got 20ish seconds to do the job before Concord roll up. If it'd been in a 1.0 then instant concordokken would have indeed happened.

If your skills allowed you to fly it before any of the skill changes took effect you still can, the prerequisites for those ships don't apply in the case of "grandfather rights".

Looked at your km. Your attacker is an obvious ganker with many ships lost to CONCORD. I'm sure this one was as well. Your mistake is thinking CONCORD is there to protect you. They aren't. Like the RL cops, they show up, eventually, to punish the bad guy, not save you. They even write a nice report for you and send it to the killboards.

Here in Toronto, the cops are the bad guys...


I was duel boxing one day and forgot my anti-psychotic meds. I was so mad at the ganker until I realized I ganked my own alt...

In real life in most countries the police are liable to **** and/or murder you and get away scott free. Luckily in New Eden the CONCORD service is beyond reproach.

I'm not sure why someone would use sentry drones to do that job but CONCORD would have destroyed the ganker.

The main issue though is that you being suicide ganked was entirely your fault. T1 industrials should NOT be used to transport cargo valued at more than twenty million ISK. No exceptions to this rule. T1 industrials cannot be tanked sufficiently and really should only be used to empty PI at customs office, to ferry ore for small scale mining ops, or to do lvl 4 distribution missions. There is no other viable use for them.

You're bound and determined to remain ignorant of this, aren't you?

You were in a 0.5 system in a negative tanked ship.

I could kill you and pod you in a 4 week old alt before CONCORD got there, this guy probably had time to smoke a cigarette and kill somebody else.

I got killed in hisec, therefore something is wrong.

I didn't see him get concorded, therefore he did not get concorded.

I have been away and then this happened, therefore the game has changed by removing concord and not in other ways like crimewatch.

I sbed someone in hisec once and remember I was concorded in "no time flat", therefore he should have been too.

"There must be something about sentry drones interaction in highsec , concord, and PVP", therefore there must be something wrong.

I can fly ships that the requirements say I shouldn't be able to fly, and I can't figure out the self-explanatory primary, secondary, tertiary requirements.




Are you sure this is the game for you?

Nah, I'm not ignorant of it, I'm rather pragmatic about. AFK hauling happens. Yea I'm going to alt tab out to research new game stuff and switch from between 3 active toons

So I'll get a macro bot that will automatically warp me to zero, jump, align, and warp to 0 to the next gate, repeat repeat repeat.

Nah, I'm not ignorant of it, I'm rather pragmatic about. [GǪ]

So I'll get a macro bot that will automatically warp me to zero, jump, align, and warp to 0 to the next gate, repeat repeat repeat.

Nah, I'm not ignorant of it, I'm rather pragmatic about. AFK hauling happens. Yea I'm going to alt tab out to research new game stuff and switch from between 3 active toons

So I'll get a macro bot that will automatically warp me to zero, jump, align, and warp to 0 to the next gate, repeat repeat repeat.

Nah, I'm not ignorant of it, I'm rather pragmatic about. AFK hauling happens. Yea I'm going to alt tab out to research new game stuff and switch from between 3 active toons

So I'll get a macro bot that will automatically warp me to zero, jump, align, and warp to 0 to the next gate, repeat repeat repeat.

why? because 1) you can and 2) the guy doing the hauling for you knows what he's doing otherwise he wouldn't be paying a billion in collateral to make a couple million

Not empty quoting.

Once you hit a certain isk ceiling, it is merely good business to pay others to do it.

Use Red Frog.

They are your friends.

They are like space-FedEx.

Or if they are insignificant hauls....

Get a team together...

And do the obvious...

Gank industrials.

Hi guys, I have a story:

Once upon a time, I was drunk at mardi gras, and I really needed to ****, so depite the heavy police presence I whipped it out right there and started going. It was about two seconds in that I felt a hand clap on my shoulder, and in 30 more seconds I was walking away with a $200 citation.
....

Wow, I'm getting bad at writing these sarcastic stories...

That's not being pragmatic. That's being defeatist. If that's the way you're going and thereby intend to be stopped from playing the game, can I have your stuff?

Nah, I'm not ignorant of it, I'm rather pragmatic about. AFK hauling happens. Yea I'm going to alt tab out to research new game stuff and switch from between 3 active toons

So I'll get a macro bot that will automatically warp me to zero, jump, align, and warp to 0 to the next gate, repeat repeat repeat.

As people have explained several times, your fit was asking to be ganked. Since you were supposedly AFK hauling its no surprise you didn't see it happen. Concord response time vary, but if he ganked you with no circumstances that make it legal, even using sentries, concord would kill him.

Now you can either suck it up, learn from it and move on, or you can log off and never come back. Spouting off on the forum, telling everyone else that they simply don't understand, demanding some kind of change to protect you, or worst of all stating that you will use EULA violating methods to avoid is it going to get you nowhere. At best, you've just painted an enormous target on yourself.

Its threads like these that make me continue to camp trade hub pipe routes. Remember to send your ganker some lovely hate mail. We love adding it to our collection.

OR you could do what I did. Convo'ed him, said GJ and asked him for the Kill mail since I didn't fire at him, I wasn't sent a copy. He dropped in the kiil mail and I said TY and ended it. Then I put $100,000 isk bounty on him just to insult him. (his bounty is over a billion already). I then read up on how to give kill rights and put my kill rights on him for 1sk.

Chill people. This is my 'I'm baaaaaak' post. Don't be so serious. It's just a game. I got no pleasure from having my hauler shot while afk hauling in hi-sec. But this thread and the responses are reaching even equity on what I lost.

Eve is about having fun any way you can and there are many many ways to have fun. Just don't get caught

OR you could do what I did. Convo'ed him, said GJ and asked him for the Kill mail since I didn't fire at him, I wasn't sent a copy. He dropped in the kiil mail and I said TY and ended it. Then I put $100,000 isk bounty on him just to insult him. (his bounty is over a billion already). I then read up on how to give kill rights and put my kill rights on him for 1sk.

Lets see.

1. Misquote poster several time on some key points.
2. Maintain the vernacular as if they're direct quotes from OP.
3. Berate OP.

That's like so '90's mmorpg.

I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.

Lets just say that posts promoting EULA breaking actions and/or activities are not tolerated.

Lets see.

1. Misquote poster several time on some key points.
2. Maintain the vernacular as if they're direct quotes from OP.
3. Berate OP.

That's like so '90's mmorpg.

/facepalm

Okay, just wondering what part of AFK hauling you missed.

i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling -

Okay, just wondering what part of AFK hauling you missed. I've been back a week. Havn't even killed a rat yet. You know how much you forget after 3 years?

I come back, I can fly ships that according to the skill requirements say I can't. My cyno alt has about 7 days of training again andI get ganked by a solo player with sentry drones.

What's in store for my Obelisk, Orca?

Oh yes there is ... www.minerbumping.com

Oh yes there is ... www.minerbumping.com

Now they are just getting silly.

It's been silly pretty much the entire time.

Now they are just getting silly.

Are you capable of replying point by point? *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

Okay, just wondering what part of AFK hauling you missed. I've been back a week. Havn't even killed a rat yet. You know how much you forget after 3 years?

I come back, I can fly ships that according to the skill requirements say I can't. My cyno alt has about 7 days of training again andI get ganked by a solo player with sentry drones.

What's in store for my Obelisk, Orca?

There must be something about sentry drones interaction in highsec , concord, and PVP.

And this is why you were ganked. Forget everything else, that was their target. The value of a T2 BPO is immeasurable. CCP has been trying to eliminate them from the game for years. To that end, it would not surprise me that CONCORD managed to mysteriously not show up when a ship carrying T2 BPOs was attacked. What a coincidence! And I am guessing that they did not drop, either, correct?

Items that the CCP wishes to see destroyed always find a way to become so. For reference, look up the drop rates for PLEX (i.e. 0%)

...225m lost total in cargo and ship...

Iteron Mark V
Security: 0.5
Damage Taken: 1706

No, I understand concord is not there to protect me. There must be something about sentry drones interaction in highsec , concord, and PVP.

I just remember the day I smartbombed somebody out during a mission and got punished in no time flat. This one was rather sad as I never saw Concord. Just my hull melt.

Why would you fly something like this?

This, ladies and gentlemen, is what a persecution complex looks like.

Why would you fly something like this?

As a returning player they are probably unaware how badly the Itty V was nerfed in terms of tank in recent patches and how common T1 ganking has become :D

Because after a decade of on again off again playing, I'm still a noob care bear and I like to AFK haul. It's ******** I know..

T1 ganking hasnt changed and you could always kill them this easily if they fit a very poor tank with a full rack of cargo expanders.

My opinion, the Mark V is just a gank waiting to happen.

I primarily fly the Epithal or Badger while moving stuff around Highsec. They are tanked; and while the Epithal is the weakest... it still has about 25K - 30K hitpoints (overheat). As long as I am not too stupid in what I carry, I might be scanned, but only on extreme rare occasion will anyone try to gank me.

I hate to say it, but there seem to be a lot of players out there are giving the gankers very easy and lucrative targets.... which make my ships less attractive and less likely to be ganked.

Schadenfreude.

I haven't played for years and I've been back a week turning mu 3 tunes, emptying obsolete hangers and ramping up production on with my T2 BPOs when I was solo ganked by by 1 player with sentry drones. Is this the new OP? Tto rub it in, they didn't get concorded. I though people are always concorded in empire?

About 225m lost total in cargo and ship and I dropped around 150m items / gear.

The only thing I'm sad about is I just turned in LP for about 50k rounds of faction medium projectile (Fusion M) ( Fusion S)


Victim: Zabrina
Corp: Half Moon Bay Ventures
Alliance: Unknown
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Iteron Mark V
System: Colelie
Security: 0.5
Damage Taken: 1706

Involved parties:

Name: Nordika (laid the final blow)
Security: -0.20
Corp: Ganked And T Bagged
Alliance: None
Faction: None
Ship: Vexor
Weapon: Garde II
Damage Done: 1706

Destroyed items:

I presume you mean Nereus. The Epithal is the Gallante hauler with the PI hold.

Because after a decade of on again off again playing, I'm still a noob care bear and I like to AFK haul. It's ******** I know. If there is a kill mail archive, I think 5 years ago I was ganked afk hauling 900,000,000 ISK in datacores.

I wonder if an MTU will self deploy from your cargo if somebody ganks you. Have it loot your wreck and cargo before they can get to it. lol.

Due to the horrible bugs in the drone coding, oftentimes they will continue to fight even after their controlling ship has been destroyed.



And this is why you were ganked. Forget everything else, that was their target. The value of a T2 BPO is immeasurable. CCP has been trying to eliminate them from the game for years. To that end, it would not surprise me that CONCORD managed to mysteriously not show up when a ship carrying T2 BPOs was attacked. What a coincidence! And I am guessing that they did not drop, either, correct?

Items that the CCP wishes to see destroyed always find a way to become so. For reference, look up the drop rates for PLEX (i.e. 0%)

i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling - such an activity is wrong on every front lol

I presume you mean Nereus. The Epithal is the Gallante hauler with the PI hold.

[quote=Erotica 1][quote=Zabrina][quote=Noddy Comet]What's in store for my Obelisk, Orca?

Due to the horrible bugs in the drone coding, oftentimes they will continue to fight even after their controlling ship has been destroyed.



And this is why you were ganked. Forget everything else, that was their target. The value of a T2 BPO is immeasurable. CCP has been trying to eliminate them from the game for years. To that end, it would not surprise me that CONCORD managed to mysteriously not show up when a ship carrying T2 BPOs was attacked. What a coincidence! And I am guessing that they did not drop, either, correct?

Items that the CCP wishes to see destroyed always find a way to become so. For reference, look up the drop rates for PLEX (i.e. 0%)