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Irwin
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Posted - 2006.04.24 19:26:00 -
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Edited by: Irwin on 24/04/2006 19:29:41
Ok heres the deal...
I buy a BPO for 1.1billion, am happy and when i come to collect i find out the num-nut has put it on escrow for 110mill (right plonker :P) so i collect quickly before my net crashes again.
I log back on after food and was about to transfer the difference in isk when i noticed the guy has a sec status of -7.5!
Now i have a problem.. i want to keep the cash (doesn't everyone) though my conscience said pay up! Yet when noticeing the sec status and guessing what he has done to others i have second thoughts...
Am i being naive in thinking i should pay up and not lower myself to the pirates level.... or should i keep the money knowing he would prob do the same thing in the tides where reversed?
HELP!
Irwin
P.s I am posting with my main and welcome the guy to defend himself, this is a genuine plea for help and honestly believe if the tides where turned he would keep the cash (have sterotyped him as a pirate).
edit: have not been able to log in a speak with him as my net is ammazingly unstable atm.. thought a new router would have fixed it
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Vurg
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Posted - 2006.04.24 19:29:00 -
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I'd keep it. It's purely his fault for making such a mistake, and mistakes like that don't happen often. 
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.04.24 19:32:00 -
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Edited by: Kel Shek on 24/04/2006 19:33:50
personally I'd quadruple check that it indeed was a original not a copy and such, get the print into high sec... and assuming all was kosher, (the BP was as expected) once back in high sec,(of course, that only applies if the transfer wasnt' already in high sec) I'd pay the rest.
might jerk their chain a little, but the intent would always be ultimately to give the proper amount.
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xeom
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Posted - 2006.04.24 19:32:00 -
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If you're gana do it do it becuase you want to.Not becuase hes pirate.You're just trying to find a crutch to stand-on,and the fact that hes a pirate is not one.If you want to go ahead and be 'ebil' and take it then go ahead.But don't use the 'he was a pirate defence' if you would have given a carebear the rest of the money.
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Irwin
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Posted - 2006.04.24 19:35:00 -
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Yes in a way i am trying to justify keeping teh cash.. your right. In situations like this thats always the prob.
Thought i honestly would have given him the cash had he not been a pirate, i've always tried to keep myself above board on the conscience side of things.
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Tatiana JInMei
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Posted - 2006.04.24 19:35:00 -
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Well I probably would not to a unstable client but would for a stable one.
Do you plan on long term with the guy? no screw him or get something in exchange for it.
a 2nd copy maybe?
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Irwin
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Posted - 2006.04.24 19:37:00 -
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Edited by: Irwin on 24/04/2006 19:37:48
It is a BPO.. check that before i claim any escrow
This is just a 1 off trade... not met the guy before and prob wont meet him again (unless i fall asleep while on autopilot :D)
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Arkanor
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Posted - 2006.04.24 19:42:00 -
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 Originally by: Vurg
I'd keep it. It's purely his fault for making such a mistake, and mistakes like that don't happen often.
His mistake opened an interesting opportunity, keep it. Sell your conscience on escrow  .
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Irwin
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Posted - 2006.04.24 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Arkanor
Originally by: Vurg
I'd keep it. It's purely his fault for making such a mistake, and mistakes like that don't happen often.
His mistake opened an interesting opportunity, keep it. Sell your conscience on escrow .
LoL.. could prob get a fair bit for my conscience... though considering you can sell your friendship on ebay i proberbly could do it!
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Dimitri Chandler
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Posted - 2006.04.24 19:50:00 -
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I admire the honesty, and have been in this situation myself.
Treble check
It is likely to be a tech1 missile / ammo bpo masquerading as a tech 2 one.
And if it is real, you got lucky - keep it and don't pay it back.
Justification: - There are 900 other people just waiting for this type of mistake to occur and if it was you who made the mistake you would never get the isk. There are plenty of mechanisms in the escrow system that make it almost impossible to make this kind of mistake. Sadly, people still do.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.24 19:55:00 -
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It has nothing to do with whether he's a pirate or not.
You either do the right thing, or you do the wrong thing. However, the "wrong" thing can be very profitable in this case. Decide your morals for yourself.
Him "being a pirate" is not a justification.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.04.24 19:58:00 -
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If it's someone I'd know, I'd pay up. After telling everyone about it.
If it is someone random on escrow who's made a mistake? Their problem, not mine.
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Idara
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Posted - 2006.04.24 20:00:00 -
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Frack 'em! Keep that cash! I would...
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Irwin
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Posted - 2006.04.24 20:00:00 -
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Edited by: Irwin on 24/04/2006 20:01:59
umm "him being a pirate" is a justification..
I work in a local scout troop, if one of my fellow leaders dropped his wallet i would give it back.. i know they are kind people and it isn't fair on them... however i have never encountered the problem in real life where a know repetitive burglar drops his wallet..
edit: btw like the sig, ghost in the shell was great :D
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pyr8t
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Posted - 2006.04.24 20:11:00 -
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Irwin, you're the typical carebear.
"I feel guilty" whaaa!
I'll defend this supposed pirate. I think you should give him his ISK back, not doing so makes YOU a bad person. God forbid you become a bad person...
In fact, i'll go one step further... you become a griefer by not giving him his money back! hahah! That's right, a Griefer!
Irwin = Griefer. Everyone will know to avoid you and your reputation will be ruined.
Give the pirate his ISK back so he can, in turn, use it to buy battleships to gate snipe you with. Not doing so would be griefing on your part. You don't want to be known a griefer now do you?
Once you start down that path... there's no telling how far you'll fall Irwin.
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Irwin
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Posted - 2006.04.24 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: pyr8t
Irwin, you're the typical carebear.
"I feel guilty" whaaa!
I'll defend this supposed pirate. I think you should give him his ISK back, not doing so makes YOU a bad person. God forbid you become a bad person...
In fact, i'll go one step further... you become a griefer by not giving him his money back! hahah! That's right, a Griefer!
Irwin = Griefer. Everyone will know to avoid you and your reputation will be ruined.
Give the pirate his ISK back so he can, in turn, use it to buy battleships to gate snipe you with. Not doing so would be griefing on your part. You don't want to be known a griefer now do you?
Once you start down that path... there's no telling how far you'll fall Irwin.
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Lol!
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Cipher7
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Posted - 2006.04.24 20:21:00 -
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If you make a deal, you should honor your word.
Live above the board and don't look back.
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GLi7ch
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Posted - 2006.04.24 20:21:00 -
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which would u rather walk away with, your integrety or 900mil? Personally i say his loss but then again im also a vile murderer
If he has been around eve for any significant amount of time he's prolly already written if off as a big fat stupid expensive mistake and if he hasnt then hes tha one beeing naive
you hear stories liek this every once and a while and typically the general feeling is not one of sympathy for tha guy who didnt double triple and quadruple check his escrow
its been said many times before eve is a highly competative game and you got a decent break
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.04.24 20:25:00 -
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If you keep it, it's entire;ly up to you but you must accept the consequences. -7.5 sec status means he'll hunt you down any time you're in low sec for at least a few months.
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Toksin
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Posted - 2006.04.24 20:31:00 -
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If you want to keep the money, then keep it. If not, give him his ISK. But don't **** around by justifying that you're keeping it because he's a pirate. I don't have a problem with escrow scammers, besides the fact that they spam escrow, but in all aspects, if you don't give him your ISK, you are now a bad guy. A villian. But don't try to justify it with false pretenses we all know aren't true.
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Valium Summer
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Posted - 2006.04.24 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dimitri Chandler
And if it is real, you got lucky - keep it and don't pay it back.
Justification: - There are 900 other people just waiting for this type of mistake to occur and if it was you who made the mistake you would never get the isk. There are plenty of mechanisms in the escrow system that make it almost impossible to make this kind of mistake. Sadly, people still do.
I personally would not make my decision based on what I thought other people would do. I always feel a person is lucky to have me find his stuff because he will get everything I find.
EXCEPT FOR PIRATE SCUM. Keep the loot, make a bed of it and roll around and frollick in it knowing this guy has made a living of taking from others.
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ArtemisEntreri
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Posted - 2006.04.24 20:47:00 -
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Edited by: ArtemisEntreri on 24/04/2006 20:47:09
I have to say that you should give him the money, because when I was 5.0 I was doing exactly the same things as when I was -10.0 but in low-sec, griefing innocent little carebears mining / npc hunting.
edit : my point being sec status doesn't matter
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Brem Watson
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Posted - 2006.04.24 20:53:00 -
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Well talking about it on an open forum didn't help the situation. Just pay it back now.
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.04.24 21:01:00 -
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Something else to consider:
Where did he get this? It is possible to be -7.5 and NOT be a griefing pirate scumbag (anti-pirate etc). It is POSSIBLE that he is simply selling off a corp asset that isn't needed anymore (change in direction, can get production done cheaper/ less hastle etc etc)
it is also POSSIBLE that the guy picked it up from someone that he popped...
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MrTripps
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Posted - 2006.04.24 21:06:00 -
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Everything in EVE, even trade, is PVP. A player who doesn't take advantage of another player's mistakes isn't playing to win. The real question is weather or not your relationship with the other character is worth the ISK. The movie where John Cusack is chased relentlessly by a paperboy for $2 comes to mind.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.24 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sensor Error
Something else to consider:
Where did he get this? It is possible to be -7.5 and NOT be a griefing pirate scumbag (anti-pirate etc). It is POSSIBLE that he is simply selling off a corp asset that isn't needed anymore (change in direction, can get production done cheaper/ less hastle etc etc)
it is also POSSIBLE that the guy picked it up from someone that he popped...
Piracy is just as valid a profession as mining.
It is not an excuse to violate your honor.
Thus, you either keep your honor and lose 900 million, or lose some honor but keep 900 million. Its a choice. There's no justification.
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James Don
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Posted - 2006.04.24 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: James Don on 24/04/2006 21:13:39
Originally by: Irwin
Edited by: Irwin on 24/04/2006 19:29:41
Ok heres the deal...
I buy a BPO for 1.1billion, am happy and when i come to collect i find out the num-nut has put it on escrow for 110mill (right plonker :P) so i collect quickly before my net crashes again.
I did a deal for x2 Deimos's a while back for 123mil ea the bloke escrowed them for 0 Isk to me only by mistake, it didnt even cross my mind not to send him the cash but thats just me!
Lots of ppl since said flip no I'd have taken them and not paid but my honor means more ot me than that.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2006.04.24 21:12:00 -
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Nimie
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Posted - 2006.04.24 21:17:00 -
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just whatever you feel like doing. no point asking anyone other than yourself what you should do.
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Posted - 2006.04.24 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Arkanor
Originally by: Vurg
I'd keep it. It's purely his fault for making such a mistake, and mistakes like that don't happen often.
His mistake opened an interesting opportunity, keep it. Sell your conscience on escrow .
people PAY for them?!?!?!
Damn, and I threw mine out with the trash...
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