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James Robinton
Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Ocularis Inferno
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Posted - 2014.03.12 04:43:00 -
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I've lived in a wormhole for the better part of the last year or more after coming back from a long break. I was brought back because of wormholes - because I was told that it was PVP that ranged from small gang to fleet fights, and that wormholers had one, sacred, Sworn-Unto-Bob, code.
You always fight. Space bushido, yo.
In the last year I've been dropped on by some many people - some because they got lucky, some because I was doing some amazingly dumb. Blood Union. Hard Knocks. Last Chance. Boris Johnson, and on and on and on.
So imagine my surprise when, at the head of a 30 man t3 fleet as we're diving into wormholes, that my scouts report back some sign of Last Chance.
Me and my fleet *parked* ourselves on the doorstep of their C6. We might as well have been standing in the shadow of Mount-Freaking-Doom. My scout reports that there is an archon, two guardians, and a whole batch of t3's and nuet geddons on their side of the wormhole.
I looked to my alliance and asked our tradition question - "Do you want to die tonight?" to when Ocularis Inferno, the land of "We give no fucks" all agreed. I look to EOL who was running with us and ask them to same - to their credit, the field where they grow their fucks is also barren.
So we jump into Last Chance's Cap Fleet and put their carrier into half armor before he goes triage and we jump back out. We've followed the Code of Bob. Surely, they will jump and engage us here - our logi to their logi, our t3's to theirs.
Seconds turned into minutes. Nothing. Suddeny! An activation! They've decided to honor the Code of Bob!
No, wait. That's their archon combat rolling their wormhole.
Yes, kids. My fleet went home with balls of blue because Last Chance didn't want to come out and play.
Lame. Just... lame. That could've been a really cool fight.
JR |
Karen Avioras
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
279
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Posted - 2014.03.12 04:46:00 -
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So this is a story about no kills? |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10344
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Posted - 2014.03.12 04:47:00 -
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They won, thats all that matters. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
James Robinton
Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Ocularis Inferno
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Posted - 2014.03.12 04:50:00 -
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Karen Avioras wrote:So this is a story about no kills?
A tragedy, I tell you! |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
572
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Posted - 2014.03.12 05:14:00 -
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Karen Avioras wrote:So this is a story about no kills? Not just a story, a long story.
In this World of short attention spans, where's my LT;DR?
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4418
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Posted - 2014.03.12 05:40:00 -
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The nerve of some people not engaging in combat. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Bruce Kemp
Suddenly taken over
104
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Posted - 2014.03.12 06:01:00 -
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Karen Avioras wrote:So this is a story about no kills?
Worst story ever. |
Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
29
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Posted - 2014.03.12 06:13:00 -
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James Robinton wrote:"We give no fucks"
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
2723
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Posted - 2014.03.12 06:18:00 -
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I can't find the care to even shrug. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
culo duro
EveryoneVersusEveryone.com
619
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Posted - 2014.03.12 10:33:00 -
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Wait so because you couldn't beat their fleet you jumped out and expected them to jumo out to fight with less? wat Do you want to learn how to pvp? Take a look at www.everyoneversuseveryone.com (Heavily WIP) |
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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
1059
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Posted - 2014.03.12 10:47:00 -
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Maybe they didn't deem you a worthy adversary and decided not to waste ammo on you. |
Tanuki Kittybeta
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
26
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Posted - 2014.03.12 11:08:00 -
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Maybe they decided to give you guys a... Last Chance... LOLolOlLolLOLOllol |
Jynxx Dragon
Lets Be Bad Guys
1
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Posted - 2014.03.12 11:11:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Karen Avioras wrote:So this is a story about no kills? Not just a story, a long story. In this World of short attention spans, where's my TL;DR?
TL;DR: We jumped into wormhole, they beat us back through wormhole. They are honorless. |
Mildew Wolf
133
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Posted - 2014.03.12 11:12:00 -
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James Robinton wrote:I've lived in a wormhole for the better part of the last year or more after coming back from a long break. I was brought back because of wormholes - because I was told that it was PVP that ranged from small gang to fleet fights, and that wormholers had one, sacred, Sworn-Unto-Bob, code.
You always fight. Space bushido, yo.
In the last year I've been dropped on by some many people - some because they got lucky, some because I was doing some amazingly dumb. Blood Union. Hard Knocks. Last Chance. Boris Johnson, and on and on and on.
So imagine my surprise when, at the head of a 30 man t3 fleet as we're diving into wormholes, that my scouts report back some sign of Last Chance.
Me and my fleet *parked* ourselves on the doorstep of their C6. We might as well have been standing in the shadow of Mount-Freaking-Doom. My scout reports that there is an archon, two guardians, and a whole batch of t3's and nuet geddons on their side of the wormhole.
I looked to my alliance and asked our tradition question - "Do you want to die tonight?" to when Ocularis Inferno, the land of "We give no fucks" all agreed. I look to EOL who was running with us and ask them to same - to their credit, the field where they grow their fucks is also barren.
So we jump into Last Chance's Cap Fleet and put their carrier into half armor before he goes triage and we jump back out. We've followed the Code of Bob. Surely, they will jump and engage us here - our logi to their logi, our t3's to theirs.
Seconds turned into minutes. Nothing. Suddeny! An activation! They've decided to honor the Code of Bob!
No, wait. That's their archon combat rolling their wormhole.
Yes, kids. My fleet went home with balls of blue because Last Chance didn't want to come out and play.
Lame. Just... lame. That could've been a really cool fight.
JR
"an archon"..."cap fleet" )))
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Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
235
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Posted - 2014.03.12 11:19:00 -
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Discretion is the better part of valor.
It is better to run and live to fight another day.
Bushido may have been cool and all, but its hardly the only martial doctrine to ever have existed.
Sun Tzu elaborates at great length that you only fight as a last resort, and even then only when victory is assured. |
James Robinton
Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Ocularis Inferno
3
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Posted - 2014.03.12 14:56:00 -
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I maintain that the premier code of wormholers is that you always offer ::gudfights::
Ocularis Inferno will always fight. We will always whelp stuff if you've got us out numbered and out gunned. If we've got any kind of people on, or can badger them to get on, we'll fight. We'll 1v1 at the sun. We'll ship down to match you or ship up to match you.
Fucks - no can has. :D |
Le'Mon Tichim
End-of-Line
131
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Posted - 2014.03.12 15:02:00 -
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Mildew Wolf wrote:James Robinton wrote:I've lived in a wormhole for the better part of the last year or more after coming back from a long break. I was brought back because of wormholes - because I was told that it was PVP that ranged from small gang to fleet fights, and that wormholers had one, sacred, Sworn-Unto-Bob, code.
You always fight. Space bushido, yo.
In the last year I've been dropped on by some many people - some because they got lucky, some because I was doing some amazingly dumb. Blood Union. Hard Knocks. Last Chance. Boris Johnson, and on and on and on.
So imagine my surprise when, at the head of a 30 man t3 fleet as we're diving into wormholes, that my scouts report back some sign of Last Chance.
Me and my fleet *parked* ourselves on the doorstep of their C6. We might as well have been standing in the shadow of Mount-Freaking-Doom. My scout reports that there is an archon, two guardians, and a whole batch of t3's and nuet geddons on their side of the wormhole.
I looked to my alliance and asked our tradition question - "Do you want to die tonight?" to when Ocularis Inferno, the land of "We give no fucks" all agreed. I look to EOL who was running with us and ask them to same - to their credit, the field where they grow their fucks is also barren.
So we jump into Last Chance's Cap Fleet and put their carrier into half armor before he goes triage and we jump back out. We've followed the Code of Bob. Surely, they will jump and engage us here - our logi to their logi, our t3's to theirs.
Seconds turned into minutes. Nothing. Suddeny! An activation! They've decided to honor the Code of Bob!
No, wait. That's their archon combat rolling their wormhole.
Yes, kids. My fleet went home with balls of blue because Last Chance didn't want to come out and play.
Lame. Just... lame. That could've been a really cool fight.
JR "an archon"..."cap fleet" )))
And a Thanatos that landed seconds into the fight in their hole. Cataclysmic c6. The only three ships we lost were woefully undertanked, a Maller, a Wolf, and a Blackbird. Our reps were holding, and we forced the Archon into triage. Communication errors on the part of our (-EOL) logi pair led the FC's to believe that we were about to suffer heavy losses. In hindsight, I would not have split the five Guardians into 3-2 grouping, but I wasn't in charge, OR flying the healer bricks.
I believe the point of this is, we fought expecting to die, were surprised that we were ultimately killing the Archon, got kinda silly and jumped out, and then were really sad when they wouldn't come to us. Trash talking was had on both comms, I'm sure. It's more of a 'got counter blue-balled after a short engagement' situation. Can you hear them? They are calling to us. It is beautiful. http://thegreattichim.wordpress.com/ |
James Robinton
Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Ocularis Inferno
3
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Posted - 2014.03.12 15:38:00 -
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Ya, sadly there was some miscommunication in terms of our comms as to the fleet's status. But that happens sometimes. I was just amazed that they wanted to rely on caps as opposed to an actual fight. Next time that Archon's ours. ;) |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
10799
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Posted - 2014.03.12 15:51:00 -
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James Robinton wrote:I've lived in a wormhole for the better part of the last year ...
Any story starting with "I live under a rock" isn't worth reading.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
4236
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Posted - 2014.03.12 16:00:00 -
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Can someone rewrite this story please? I looked at all the words in order, but I didn't really follow along. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
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James Robinton
Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Ocularis Inferno
4
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Posted - 2014.03.12 16:23:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Can someone rewrite this story please? I looked at all the words in order, but I didn't really follow along.
The perils of writing an 'after action' half asleep, I confess.
TLDR Version: Ocularis Inferno and -EOL (End of Line) brought a t3/subcap fight into TLC's wormhole (The Last Chancers). TLC replied with Caps and spoiled the fight.
The "Longish" Version: Instead of fighting a reasonably fair subcap fight (we had about 5ish more people, they had higher shipclass), they chose to drop caps into the fight, which IMO is like crapping in the pool when it comes to wormhole fights. Ya, you technically can do it, but it causes everyone to get out of the pool.
They knew our exact fleet comp due to having eyes on us, so they knew exactly what we were bringing and could've brought a good fight. Hell, they could've even correctly locked us into their wormhole - we'd have died to the man, but it would've been awesome.
Instead, when we pulled back one wormhole to offer a reasonable fight, they instead combat-rolled their WH, locking us out and blueballing the fleet.
Does that make more sense? (Promise, not being sarcastic. I wrote the first post at 1 AM and half asleep ;) ) |
Haseo Antares
Corollary Forest Fairytail.
73
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Posted - 2014.03.12 16:43:00 -
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James Robinton wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Can someone rewrite this story please? I looked at all the words in order, but I didn't really follow along. The perils of writing an 'after action' half asleep, I confess. TLDR Version: Ocularis Inferno and -EOL (End of Line) brought a t3/subcap fight into TLC's wormhole (The Last Chancers). Instead of fighting a reasonably fair subcap fight (we had about 5ish more people, they had higher shipclass), they chose to drop caps into the fight, which IMO is like crapping in the pool when it comes to wormhole fights. Ya, you technically can do it, but it causes everyone to get out of the pool. They knew our exact fleet comp due to having eyes on us, so they knew exactly what we were bringing and could've brought a good fight. Hell, they could've even correctly locked us into their wormhole - we'd have died to the man, but it would've been awesome. Instead, when we pulled back one wormhole to offer a reasonable fight, they instead combat-rolled their WH, locking us out and blueballing the fleet. Does that make more sense? (Promise, not being sarcastic. I wrote the first post at 1 AM and half asleep ;) )
I think you are gonna need an abstract for that TLDR; its still a wall of text. We currently have the world's greatest linguists and scientists trying to decode whatn++ you just said. |
flakeys
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
2089
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Posted - 2014.03.12 16:54:00 -
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Le'Mon Tichim wrote:Mildew Wolf wrote:James Robinton wrote:I've lived in a wormhole for the better part of the last year or more after coming back from a long break. I was brought back because of wormholes - because I was told that it was PVP that ranged from small gang to fleet fights, and that wormholers had one, sacred, Sworn-Unto-Bob, code.
You always fight. Space bushido, yo.
In the last year I've been dropped on by some many people - some because they got lucky, some because I was doing some amazingly dumb. Blood Union. Hard Knocks. Last Chance. Boris Johnson, and on and on and on.
So imagine my surprise when, at the head of a 30 man t3 fleet as we're diving into wormholes, that my scouts report back some sign of Last Chance.
Me and my fleet *parked* ourselves on the doorstep of their C6. We might as well have been standing in the shadow of Mount-Freaking-Doom. My scout reports that there is an archon, two guardians, and a whole batch of t3's and nuet geddons on their side of the wormhole.
I looked to my alliance and asked our tradition question - "Do you want to die tonight?" to when Ocularis Inferno, the land of "We give no fucks" all agreed. I look to EOL who was running with us and ask them to same - to their credit, the field where they grow their fucks is also barren.
So we jump into Last Chance's Cap Fleet and put their carrier into half armor before he goes triage and we jump back out. We've followed the Code of Bob. Surely, they will jump and engage us here - our logi to their logi, our t3's to theirs.
Seconds turned into minutes. Nothing. Suddeny! An activation! They've decided to honor the Code of Bob!
No, wait. That's their archon combat rolling their wormhole.
Yes, kids. My fleet went home with balls of blue because Last Chance didn't want to come out and play.
Lame. Just... lame. That could've been a really cool fight.
JR "an archon"..."cap fleet" ))) And a Thanatos that landed seconds into the fight in their hole. Cataclysmic c6. The only three ships we lost were woefully undertanked, a Maller, a Wolf, and a Blackbird. Our reps were holding, and we forced the Archon into triage. Communication errors on the part of our (-EOL) logi pair led the FC's to believe that we were about to suffer heavy losses. In hindsight, I would not have split the five Guardians into 3-2 grouping, but I wasn't in charge, OR flying the healer bricks. I believe the point of this is, we fought expecting to die, were surprised that we were ultimately killing the Archon, got kinda silly and jumped out, and then were really sad when they wouldn't come to us. Trash talking was had on both comms, I'm sure. It's more of a 'got counter blue-balled after a short engagement' situation.
Wait so you guys thought your fleet was gonna die -where's the no fucks given?- and bailed out but now are mad because they didn't do a second fight on the other side of the hole ...while you guys bailed out first ....
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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James Robinton
Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Ocularis Inferno
4
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Posted - 2014.03.12 16:55:00 -
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Haseo Antares wrote:James Robinton wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Can someone rewrite this story please? I looked at all the words in order, but I didn't really follow along. The perils of writing an 'after action' half asleep, I confess. TLDR Version: Ocularis Inferno and -EOL (End of Line) brought a t3/subcap fight into TLC's wormhole (The Last Chancers). Instead of fighting a reasonably fair subcap fight (we had about 5ish more people, they had higher shipclass), they chose to drop caps into the fight, which IMO is like crapping in the pool when it comes to wormhole fights. Ya, you technically can do it, but it causes everyone to get out of the pool. They knew our exact fleet comp due to having eyes on us, so they knew exactly what we were bringing and could've brought a good fight. Hell, they could've even correctly locked us into their wormhole - we'd have died to the man, but it would've been awesome. Instead, when we pulled back one wormhole to offer a reasonable fight, they instead combat-rolled their WH, locking us out and blueballing the fleet. Does that make more sense? (Promise, not being sarcastic. I wrote the first post at 1 AM and half asleep ;) ) I think you are gonna need an abstract for that TLDR; its still a wall of text.
Edited to try and fix :) |
Pew Terror
Green Associates
115
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:52:00 -
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This story reminds me of Sir Robin! |
Na Und
Galactronics
193
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Posted - 2014.03.12 18:20:00 -
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It appears that "the field" where Last Chance "grow their fucks" is as "barren" as yours. |
biz Antollare
Merchants Trade Consortium The Last Chancers.
3
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Posted - 2014.03.12 18:57:00 -
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Amazing story.
Lets break it down a little because some stuff was left out.
You guys tagged up with another alliance which, after counting, we were outnumbered 2:1. you knew this because you had a scout in our hole.
The triage pilot was originally in a guardian but reshipped when we knew how big your fleet was. Sorry if this offends you but I wont hand a fleet over to other people in my own home to make you happy.
Quote:"Yes, kids. My fleet went home with balls of blue because Last Chance didn't want to come out and play."-James Robinton
We could have pos'd up but we decided to fight.
You decided to commit to the fight, you guys jumped in. Great.
I was going to have the triage pilot round trip and trap you all in where the majority of you would have died. He decided to go into triage to keep himself alive as he was at 40% armor. The trap option was gone at that point.
THAT is my only regret.
Had you stayed it would have been a great fight. we will never know for sure tho....you guys bailed after we killed 3 ships totaling less than 100 mil.
Chasing into our static was not an option with a triage as it was a CV.
Sorry you feel cheated, but if you wanted a fight that bad you could have stayed. No one forced you to leave.
It was getting late for a bunch of us and people had to go to bed. After you left we figured you wouldn't come back. I decided to roll it.
Quote: "Next time that Archon's ours. ;)" -James Robinton
Come and get it.
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Le'Mon Tichim
End-of-Line
132
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Posted - 2014.03.12 20:20:00 -
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biz Antollare wrote:Amazing story. Lets break it down a little because some stuff was left out. You guys tagged up with another alliance which, after counting, we were outnumbered 2:1. you knew this because you had a scout in our hole. The triage pilot was originally in a guardian but reshipped when we knew how big your fleet was. Sorry if this offends you but I wont hand a fleet over to other people in my own home to make you happy. Quote:"Yes, kids. My fleet went home with balls of blue because Last Chance didn't want to come out and play."-James Robinton We could have pos'd up but we decided to fight. You decided to commit to the fight, you guys jumped in. Great. I was going to have the triage pilot round trip and trap you all in where the majority of you would have died. He decided to go into triage to keep himself alive as he was at 40% armor. The trap option was gone at that point. THAT is my only regret. Had you stayed it would have been a great fight. we will never know for sure tho....you guys bailed after we killed 3 ships totaling less than 100 mil. Chasing into our static was not an option with a triage as it was a CV. Sorry you feel cheated, but if you wanted a fight that bad you could have stayed. No one forced you to leave. It was getting late for a bunch of us and people had to go to bed. After you left we figured you wouldn't come back. I decided to roll it. Quote: "Next time that Archon's ours. ;)" -James Robinton
Come and get it.
We're single, by the way.
Also, you got more than 100mil. There was a Sabre who was the only one able to warp to the hole on our initial approach. We're all still confused by it, too. Can you hear them? They are calling to us. It is beautiful. http://thegreattichim.wordpress.com/ |
James Robinton
Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Ocularis Inferno
4
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Posted - 2014.03.12 20:37:00 -
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biz Antollare wrote:Amazing story. Lets break it down a little because some stuff was left out. You guys tagged up with another alliance which, after counting, we were outnumbered 2:1. you knew this because you had a scout in our hole. The triage pilot was originally in a guardian but reshipped when we knew how big your fleet was. Sorry if this offends you but I wont hand a fleet over to other people in my own home to make you happy. Quote:"Yes, kids. My fleet went home with balls of blue because Last Chance didn't want to come out and play."-James Robinton We could have pos'd up but we decided to fight. You decided to commit to the fight, you guys jumped in. Great. I was going to have the triage pilot round trip and trap you all in where the majority of you would have died. He decided to go into triage to keep himself alive as he was at 40% armor. The trap option was gone at that point. THAT is my only regret. Had you stayed it would have been a great fight. we will never know for sure tho....you guys bailed after we killed 3 ships totaling less than 100 mil. Chasing into our static was not an option with a triage as it was a CV. Sorry you feel cheated, but if you wanted a fight that bad you could have stayed. No one forced you to leave. It was getting late for a bunch of us and people had to go to bed. After you left we figured you wouldn't come back. I decided to roll it. Quote: "Next time that Archon's ours. ;)" -James Robinton
Come and get it.
I think you're reading this with a lot more seriousness than I have. If you guys HAD managed to roll the hole behind us, that would've been kind of awesome and I'd have tipped my hat to you.
Really, though - neither of us were on each others comms. We didn't have you 2:1 at all, and apparently you had fewer larger ships than I was aware of. Fog of War, no?
My main beef, in all of this, was "Suddenly Caps!". That's not a fight - really, if I wanted to go play the suddenly caps game, I'd go live out in Nullsec. It's just not the game I prefer to play - which is why I live in wormholes.
As to that Archon? It's so on. No idea when or how, but we'll come get it. You're wormholers, we're wormholers. That's how this works. You roll into us, we'll give your gang a fight without dropping caps on you, numbers be damned.
And in the interest of just not being a **** - if I wasn't clear on that in the initial post, I blame 1AM insomnia postings and apologize (for what little I imagine that'll be worth).
See ya next time we track you down or you roll into us. :D
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biz Antollare
Merchants Trade Consortium The Last Chancers.
4
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Posted - 2014.03.12 20:44:00 -
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there was no "suddenly caps" game played unless your scout was sleeping.
the triage was parked on our static for a while. |
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