So this is a story about no kills?

So this is a story about no kills?

So this is a story about no kills?

"We give no fucks"

Not just a story, a long story.

In this World of short attention spans, where's my TL;DR?

I've lived in a wormhole for the better part of the last year or more after coming back from a long break. I was brought back because of wormholes - because I was told that it was PVP that ranged from small gang to fleet fights, and that wormholers had one, sacred, Sworn-Unto-Bob, code.

You always fight. Space bushido, yo.

In the last year I've been dropped on by some many people - some because they got lucky, some because I was doing some amazingly dumb. Blood Union. Hard Knocks. Last Chance. Boris Johnson, and on and on and on.

So imagine my surprise when, at the head of a 30 man t3 fleet as we're diving into wormholes, that my scouts report back some sign of Last Chance.

Me and my fleet *parked* ourselves on the doorstep of their C6. We might as well have been standing in the shadow of Mount-Freaking-Doom. My scout reports that there is an archon, two guardians, and a whole batch of t3's and nuet geddons on their side of the wormhole.

I looked to my alliance and asked our tradition question - "Do you want to die tonight?" to when Ocularis Inferno, the land of "We give no fucks" all agreed. I look to EOL who was running with us and ask them to same - to their credit, the field where they grow their fucks is also barren.

So we jump into Last Chance's Cap Fleet and put their carrier into half armor before he goes triage and we jump back out. We've followed the Code of Bob. Surely, they will jump and engage us here - our logi to their logi, our t3's to theirs.

Seconds turned into minutes. Nothing. Suddeny! An activation! They've decided to honor the Code of Bob!

No, wait. That's their archon combat rolling their wormhole.

Yes, kids. My fleet went home with balls of blue because Last Chance didn't want to come out and play.

Lame. Just... lame. That could've been a really cool fight.

JR

"an archon"..."cap fleet" )))

I've lived in a wormhole for the better part of the last year ...

Can someone rewrite this story please? I looked at all the words in order, but I didn't really follow along.

The perils of writing an 'after action' half asleep, I confess.

TLDR Version: Ocularis Inferno and -EOL (End of Line) brought a t3/subcap fight into TLC's wormhole (The Last Chancers).

Instead of fighting a reasonably fair subcap fight (we had about 5ish more people, they had higher shipclass), they chose to drop caps into the fight, which IMO is like crapping in the pool when it comes to wormhole fights. Ya, you technically can do it, but it causes everyone to get out of the pool.

They knew our exact fleet comp due to having eyes on us, so they knew exactly what we were bringing and could've brought a good fight. Hell, they could've even correctly locked us into their wormhole - we'd have died to the man, but it would've been awesome.

Instead, when we pulled back one wormhole to offer a reasonable fight, they instead combat-rolled their WH, locking us out and blueballing the fleet.

Does that make more sense? (Promise, not being sarcastic. I wrote the first post at 1 AM and half asleep ;) )

And a Thanatos that landed seconds into the fight in their hole. Cataclysmic c6. The only three ships we lost were woefully undertanked, a Maller, a Wolf, and a Blackbird. Our reps were holding, and we forced the Archon into triage. Communication errors on the part of our (-EOL) logi pair led the FC's to believe that we were about to suffer heavy losses. In hindsight, I would not have split the five Guardians into 3-2 grouping, but I wasn't in charge, OR flying the healer bricks.

I believe the point of this is, we fought expecting to die, were surprised that we were ultimately killing the Archon, got kinda silly and jumped out, and then were really sad when they wouldn't come to us. Trash talking was had on both comms, I'm sure. It's more of a 'got counter blue-balled after a short engagement' situation.

I think you are gonna need an abstract for that TLDR; its still a wall of text.

Amazing story.

Lets break it down a little because some stuff was left out.

You guys tagged up with another alliance which, after counting, we were outnumbered 2:1. you knew this because you had a scout in our hole.

The triage pilot was originally in a guardian but reshipped when we knew how big your fleet was. Sorry if this offends you but I wont hand a fleet over to other people in my own home to make you happy.



We could have pos'd up but we decided to fight.

You decided to commit to the fight, you guys jumped in. Great.

I was going to have the triage pilot round trip and trap you all in where the majority of you would have died. He decided to go into triage to keep himself alive as he was at 40% armor. The trap option was gone at that point.

THAT is my only regret.

Had you stayed it would have been a great fight. we will never know for sure tho....you guys bailed after we killed 3 ships totaling less than 100 mil.

Chasing into our static was not an option with a triage as it was a CV.

Sorry you feel cheated, but if you wanted a fight that bad you could have stayed. No one forced you to leave.

It was getting late for a bunch of us and people had to go to bed. After you left we figured you wouldn't come back. I decided to roll it.



Come and get it.

Amazing story.

Lets break it down a little because some stuff was left out.

You guys tagged up with another alliance which, after counting, we were outnumbered 2:1. you knew this because you had a scout in our hole.

The triage pilot was originally in a guardian but reshipped when we knew how big your fleet was. Sorry if this offends you but I wont hand a fleet over to other people in my own home to make you happy.



We could have pos'd up but we decided to fight.

You decided to commit to the fight, you guys jumped in. Great.

I was going to have the triage pilot round trip and trap you all in where the majority of you would have died. He decided to go into triage to keep himself alive as he was at 40% armor. The trap option was gone at that point.

THAT is my only regret.

Had you stayed it would have been a great fight. we will never know for sure tho....you guys bailed after we killed 3 ships totaling less than 100 mil.

Chasing into our static was not an option with a triage as it was a CV.

Sorry you feel cheated, but if you wanted a fight that bad you could have stayed. No one forced you to leave.

It was getting late for a bunch of us and people had to go to bed. After you left we figured you wouldn't come back. I decided to roll it.



Come and get it.

there was no "suddenly caps" game played unless your scout was sleeping.

Well, he is Canadian, so it's almost the same thing, right?


Also, as far as "suddenly Caps" I think he meant the second cap, the Thanny that came in. There is no way what we had could of broken a triaged Archon tank, AFAIK. I, personally, was waiting the whole time for you to roll the hole on us, honestly, and was pretty sad you didn't. I, again, personally, assume you didn't want to risk trapping your own guys on the other side, so when you brought the Thanny in, we withdrew to the other side, forcing you to leave your caps out of the game, which worked, but only for you to roll the hole in the end.

Don't play this "After you left we figured you wouldn't come back." you had a scout watching us and knew we were sitting on that hole waiting for you. He even chatted us up in local.

And, in all technicality, you *didn't* come out to play, you sat in your home with your two caps and refused to come out. While goading us with "Are you going to bring that fleet over or just **** about." non-sense. You knew what we had for a long time and could of done anything, and what you did was retreat to your home and use two caps, and when we disengaged and made it so you could either engage with no caps, or leave, you chose to leave. No one is mad here, at least from my view of our end, but it was pretty damn lame.

Maybe they didnt want to lose another Archon :P

Big talk coming from shitavowed :D.



Also I doubt the TLC would just run like that.

After hearing both sides of the story TLC's sounds more likely.

Do not expect people to honor your fleet with purely t3s when:

1: you outnumber them
2: your in there homehole

As far as im concerned if you drop into my wormhole I will blot out the sky with capitals until you are all but gone. Why would I want to leave possible seeders behind?


Van

Any story starting with "I live under a rock" isn't worth reading.

There is no way what we had could of broken a triaged Archon tank

-pardon sir! But we have only cheap t1 fleet without logistics this night!
-ah! Sure sure, give us a second, we will reship...and how many are u? Our scout is afk atm, would u excuse...
-we are 8, tell me when u are ready.
-just a second, gonna show my homework to parents and after we fight!

Lets pray for Eve not to become pinkponyworld in space. Amin

So, I will bite. All I can gather from this entire thread is that you brought the wrong fleet into someone else's C6, then left once you realized that was the case. Do you honestly think a lone Archon (or even 2 carriers) is more formidable than 4 - 6 Guardians? With a proper fleet comp (to be determined by the scout you had) that Archon was yours the second he went into triage...

Confusing story, still can't see the issue with TLC's reaction TBH.

Anyways, 2/10, still pondering...